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Reply #150 on: January 10, 2016, 03:28:46 pm
I didn't say the RP we had planned was ruined, "what we had intended to do" was assassinate Drix, however due to some lack of RP by the helicopter pilot that was what was ruined, we kept RPing all the way back to the LSPD, where we were rekt m8 by some cops in LSPD trying to do "what we had intended to do". ;)
Your plans not working out does not ruin RP. It just makes you having to adjust your targets.

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Reply #151 on: January 10, 2016, 03:29:07 pm
People always want to win the roleplay situation and cannot accept losing under any circumstance.
There's the issue of "ruined RP". It might be ruined for you but for sure it isn't ruined for others on the other side.
That's why majority of criminals nowadays force roleplay like some shoes that can hide a whole M4, solid fence which isn't actually solid and can be seen through, lying in /em and so on.



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Reply #152 on: January 10, 2016, 03:29:16 pm
Ask the 8 men surrounding me yesterday how I solve it. Hint: the cops that arrived twice left without interrupting and no money changed hands, nor was any violence used.
Some peole will run to the cops, just like they will in real life. Why are you so unwilling to give up in that case? Seems you have an issue in forcing roleplay on others, which is disallowed.

You can't deny the fact that it was a once off as the cops were told to back off by their superiors sadly. If their superiors hadn't come past it would have resulted in 5+ cop cars surrounding those trying to roleplay as it was a large group of armed people.



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Reply #153 on: January 10, 2016, 03:30:14 pm
I never said or meant to force the guy to roleplay the way i want, i'm talking about those who write a few lines in the chat such as "fuck you man, go fuck yourself" and run to the first blue blip they see on the map.
For you it is realistic to escape from two men who are holding you tightly WITHOUT trying to resist at least with /me and shout at the first cop passing by because you don't want to loose something in roleplay, yeah it is too difficult  for you all to accept the fact you are being robbed. 
You got no idea of what i'm talking about because you never tried before, maybe that's why i don't even see you roleplaying around the server eh. I'm tired of people making up accusations based on facts they have never witnessed just to try to look good at the eyes of some virtual peeps.
You don't know me and you don't know how I roleplay or with who I roleplay, If I don't roleplay all days with robbers and kidnappers because I am bored of it, doesn't mean I don't roleplay at all, I am not sorry at all for being creative.
I didn't justify any of their actions infact I said, if you feel like someone isn't roleplaying at same level like you are, roleplay with someone else or teach the guy how to roleplay.
But at the same time you CAN'T and by CAN'T I mean you MUSTN'T force people to roleplay like you want them to do..., if the person wishes to rebel and escape or to secretly crowl out of the place you can't force him to stay and close any chance or option for him to escape...
each person have the right to roleplay the way he wants, if he wishes to act frightened and sit still without moving and barely talking he can do so, and if he wishes to act brave and try to escape without being shot, he can do so.
and for your information I have tried many many many MANY kidnapping and robbing roleplays where I was the victim in it... and I didn't stick to one way of roleplaying once I was frightened and acted like I can not speak and kept trembling and on other roleplay I acted bravely and escaped secretly without being shot.

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Reply #154 on: January 10, 2016, 03:32:34 pm
Bro, hahah, believe us, RP gets ruined a lot of times, 4-5 dots on the map and some cops rush in to start shooting, some cops can respect the privacy of criminals, and that's nice from them, but some just do not give a single fuck about others. Criminals and civilians have no space, they have no peace, as I said 10 thousand times already.. We have so much complaints about roleplays being interupted, it's just crazy.. Alteast lets give it a shot with this.
It is all in your own hands. If you stop trying to solve such thing outside of game and interact even with those cops who arrive there will be results. And I do know that cops are trying to intervene, however you must address them within roleplay.

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Reply #155 on: January 10, 2016, 03:37:39 pm
You can't deny the fact that it was a once off as the cops were told to back off by their superiors sadly. If their superiors hadn't come past it would have resulted in 5+ cop cars surrounding those trying to roleplay as it was a large group of armed people.
4 minutses before there was not a single superior reacting on the police radio.  If the cops would not have gone away we would probably have attempted to send them away. After all unless cops have a valid reason they should not arrive just because people are standing.

As I do not have any admin rights on the specific account in order to be able to find the viewpoint of a regular player I do not know what goes on outside public and local chat. Though my spying in TS did provide some fun.

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Reply #156 on: January 10, 2016, 03:40:18 pm
You can't deny the fact that it was a once off as the cops were told to back off by their superiors sadly. If their superiors hadn't come past it would have resulted in 5+ cop cars surrounding those trying to roleplay as it was a large group of armed people.
Don't forget the cop coming over, forcing with way into the circle and punching others to exit.


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Reply #157 on: January 10, 2016, 03:41:16 pm
Basically as far as I think, this discussion is literally not of much use. If we want a better Argonath, let us make it altogether by being in game, role-playing and enjoying it. NOT by arguing over some things to which 50 percent agree and 50 percent disagree.
Being in game, increasing the rate of players and in turn the rate of role-play, that will be some practical change.
Talking about these script changes, new features etc. they're like stuff that come and go. Not saying that I do not support this idea or whatever but let us all do contribute something to the community, make some proper decisions and stop arguing like kids.



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Reply #158 on: January 10, 2016, 03:46:41 pm

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Reply #159 on: January 10, 2016, 03:50:40 pm
Basically as far as I think, this discussion is literally not of much use.  make some proper decisions and stop arguing like kids.

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Reply #160 on: January 10, 2016, 03:52:35 pm
Aye! How about there is a proper decision? Make a poll! Blips or no blips! :gand:

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Reply #161 on: January 10, 2016, 03:53:55 pm
Aye! How about there is a proper decision? Make a poll! Blips or no blips! :gand:

supported, why not making a poll?



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Reply #162 on: January 10, 2016, 03:56:01 pm
Silly, that wasn't ruining RP.

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It's still a disruption when the cop had no need to get so close. Who would logically walk up to a group of 10 people then punch one of them?



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Reply #163 on: January 10, 2016, 04:12:51 pm
Aye! How about there is a proper decision? Make a poll! Blips or no blips! :gand:
No need for a poll. If you read what has been before you know that Mirko will do some tests of blips being present but disappearing within short of visual range as Cofilliano suggested. If it is possible to script I am willing to see how that works out.

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Reply #164 on: January 10, 2016, 04:14:11 pm
It's still a disruption when the cop had no need to get so close. Who would logically walk up to a group of 10 people then punch one of them?

Me?

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