Criminals: stop and think about this

[Ramo_Hawk]

Whatever happens, if you shoot at a hydra or hunter then you'll get done by its rockets.
If you shoot at the units on boat, then they'll return fire at you from that boat.

Yes. Exactly.

[Huntsman]

Speaking of the Hydra/hunter usage of the SAPD and FBI. I'd actually be in favor of removing the mentioned groups access to it and have them use a Sea Sparrow instead. Less lethal, however, still effective. A seperate military group, perhaps some sort of an air force should be made, that would be dedicated solely to those escaping in shamal. They could also be used to fight FLA 

[.Matthew.]

Speaking of the Hydra/hunter usage of the SAPD and FBI. I'd actually be in favor of removing the mentioned groups access to it and have them use a Sea Sparrow instead. Less lethal, however, still effective. A seperate military group, perhaps some sort of an air force should be made, that would be dedicated solely to those escaping in shamal. They could also be used to fight FLA 

There have been enough military groups in Argonath that failed and brought nothing but issues and trouble.
Not happening again, got that confirmed 

The server is based on Los Angeles, Las Vegas and San Francisco, we're not based on center of Afghanistan or Syria.
If there's militia group causing issues it's dealt with by SWAT and FBI, take a look at the situation that was happening in USA - Oregon.

[Ramo_Hawk]

There have been enough military groups in Argonath that failed and brought nothing but issues and trouble.
Not happening again, got that confirmed 

The server is based on Los Angeles, Las Vegas and San Francisco, we're not based on center of Afghanistan or Syria.
If there's militia group causing issues it's dealt with by SWAT and FBI, take a look at the situation that was happening in USA - Oregon.

Military groups are stationed in the desert, and they're only supposed to be deployed on high risk criminals, but we got SWAT for that which is possibly the main reason why armies have failed, due to they are not needed.

Speaking of the Hydra/hunter usage of the SAPD and FBI. I'd actually be in favor of removing the mentioned groups access to it and have them use a Sea Sparrow instead. Less lethal, however, still effective. A seperate military group, perhaps some sort of an air force should be made, that would be dedicated solely to those escaping in shamal. They could also be used to fight FLA 

We have STAR who are responsible in taking down airborne suspects.

[.Matthew.]

Exactly, having a military is waste of space and resources. We don't have countries invading us or terrorists driving tanks and flying migs around the air to need a military.
Having an intelligence agency and tactical team is sufficient to deal with what Argonath faces nowadays.

Besides, as Ramo mentioned, SAPD has a division that is specialized for air deployment. We let them handle Heavy Air whenever they're available. If they're unavailable and Heavy Air is needed then it's deployed by us. There's certain rules and regulations on how it's deployed, people think we just enter whenever we want and go on spree. It doesn't work like that.

[Ramo_Hawk]

Exactly, having a military is waste of space and resources. We don't have countries invading us or terrorists driving tanks and flying migs around the air to need a military.
Having an intelligence agency and tactical team is sufficient to deal with what Argonath faces nowadays.

Besides, as Ramo mentioned, SAPD has a division that is specialized for air deployment. We let them handle Heavy Air whenever they're available. If they're unavailable and Heavy Air is needed then it's deployed by us. There's certain rules and regulations on how it's deployed, people think we just enter whenever we want and go on spree. It doesn't work like that.

Intelligence Agencies such as CIA are needed within Argonath, but definitely not by the same leadership because it has clearly failed. And to get back to the breaking regulations, I didn't mean anything regarding vehicles to be used.

Nobody gives a fuck to breaking regulations meaning minor ones such as being corrupt, helping in the drug business, helping criminal do illegal acts and whatnot.

[.Matthew.]

Intelligence Agencies such as CIA are needed within Argonath

If Argonath had 200 players, sure it'd be nice to spread the work load.
However with its current state, having too many agencies and organizations will just lower the amount of people in the needed organizations like SAPD, SAFD and similar.
Thus why it's better to keep less agencies with more members in them at the moment than having tons of organizations and each with few people in it.

SAPD - The base of Law Enforcement, shows presence on the streets, enforces the main laws, has specialized divisions like SWAT, STAR to deal with more complex situations, aid FBI in tactical operations and so on.
FBI - Intelligence agency, infiltrates criminal organizations and prosecutes the criminals in the court. Has own specialized divisions to deal with internal tactical operations and so on.

Combined, we have everything that happens in Argonath covered. And I'm proud that SAPD and FBI work a lot more closer together since last year than they were in RS4 where it was constant witch hunt on each other.

but definitely not by the same leadership because it has clearly failed.

How CIA was established recently wasn't a way to go, originally made to share intelligence and work with FBI and SAPD, it ended up being isolated and recording us, members of FBI and SAPD instead of those who should've been recorded. People abusing the rights they were given and misrepresenting the Law Enforcement in general by doing so, thus why it had to be ended. If it had right people leading it, it would've survived.

Either way, we're starting to go off topic now.

[Norrage]

Combined, we have everything that happens in Argonath covered. And I'm proud that SAPD and FBI work a lot more closer together since last year than they were in RS4 where it was constant witch hunt on each other.

Thank god that rooster period is over.

[Mikal]

We don't have countries invading us

Flint Country invades Argonath on a daily basis.

we got SWAT for that which is possibly the main reason why armies have failed, due to they are not needed.

Argonath Armed Forces didn't fail!

[TiMoN]

Flint Country invades Argonath on a daily basis.
Argonath Armed Forces didn't fail!

Fun fact: You're standing at my house in a kidnap I organized with other [i]s.

[Mikal]

Fun fact: You're standing at my house in a kidnap I organized with other [i]s.

Didn't it end with everyone inside being banned/tempbanned?

[TrotlDebilni]

Mods overload right there.

[Julio.]

Was all about Argonath Army [AA] 

[TiMoN]

Didn't it end with everyone inside being banned/tempbanned?

Yeah I believe so, it begun with me being tempbanned for returning after death. 

[TonySforza]

Last time I RPed with the FBI I enjoyed it for weeks up to the point where I got sued with the demands of removing all my money and all my properties (aka account reset lel), luckily Shaun was the judge at the time and he was sensitive enough to completely ignore that stupid court case.
Maybe people remember that and are affraid of something similar? No one wants to be fucked in the ass raw.

Did I also mention that besides all of that I got sentenced to death? What's the point of taking all of my shit and then kill me?

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The character selection menu so you can have more than one legit character to RP with suggestion still stands, maybe that would end this "sehr it was another chatacter plz" discussion once and for all.
As for purposely dying to avoid court... showing complete disregard for your character's life causing a CK would fix it, but if you ask me I know that a lot of people would end up CKed wrongly because of different opinions on what "disregard for life is", I personally don't trust anybody in this community to judge that hence why I disagree with CKs. But some things...

EDIT: Trying to stay one step ahead of the Law Enforcement Agencies is what's fun in cop/criminal RP, having to stay 5/6 steps ahead to avoid getting caught is a fun game of chess, being interrogated and trying your best to create a credible bullshit story that also makes sense is fun, having to cover your tracks is fun, bribing is fun, finding loopholes in court cases to save yourself is fun, cleaning your tracks is fun, but must we really have shadow play on all the time to serve as proof that we did all of that to avoid any kind of power gaming and meta gaming? Maybe creating a new criminal system from scratch that gives criminals a provable way to do all of the above to avoid getting caught and the police a way to catch the criminal if his tracks aren't properly cleaned would be benefitial for both sides.