[IV:MP] Rework on the Weed system.

[Surena]

Spoiler for Hiden:

The suggestion is----Make a option that i can chose pay or not...mby i want to evade from police...mby i can do it...cuz if there is no police in game...why i must even pay,nobody still wil not know what im doing...but if there is police in game,and much police i will think about it,mby beter pay him...and conitude driwing around...mby im not sure that i can escape from police if they are using,like Heli/roadblocks or something...

I have been receiving many complaints about players harvesting in front of cops. I have heard everything from it being copbaiting to trolling to non-RP. It was suggested by some to make it impossible to /harvest when cops are within range via scripts, I don't think this is the proper solution however.

I have heard from some players that they simply gave up on achieving respect level past 2 because it was so time consuming and they did not have the patience.

The old weed system was more fun, for me atleast. U had to be lvl 50 or more to achieve the higher status. Now its just 3 lvls and its not really as fun as before. I would suggest improving the system more than just putting dark orange.

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There are much more evidences available about the fact that this weed system really needs an update, but I`m lazy to find and show them all...

Dear Argonathians,

As all of you know, the weed system works as simple as you might think. You just buy weed-seeds, grow them up and sell them to either a NPC or a player that is able to pay you more than NPC`s do.

The weed system in the previous release (1.8) was just excellent. Both beginners and most wanted dealers were making profit without any problem.
After the new release of RS2.0, the weed system got dramatically updated.
To be honest, it was a cool update over the previous system, but it became worse and worse with each day passed by.

I got sick about this, like many... many others.

It is almost impossible to make profit in a fun way with this system by the method our server developers made it.
Weed should be a illegal thing that should be risky to do, but paid a huge reward if succeed. Just like in real life.

Now the NPC buying rates have been lowered since the first launch of the new release (2.0), and cops got more and more strict on the weedsystem.
We are not able to sell unlimited times to NPC, since we get this message: "You have sold enough weed for today."
Or the fact that we cannot harvest when cops are near, even if its in a roleplay. Even though a Division leader didn`t like this idea and its still implemented...
Then what keeps this method that the developers chose so special...?

The funny part is that one of the division leaders thought about returning something from the previous release (1.8); The dark orange suspects.
Old times were so gold if I remember the past. 

If I could wish, then I wish that the old weed system kinda got mixed with these pots, so we still are able to buy with high prices from NPC`s, or chose to buy cheapely with seeds and grow them up. In this way, we have much more choice to do rather than repeating the same boring steps and get like 2 ~ 5$ profit over the seed prices.
Or the buying rates and such should be more balanced, like in the beginning of this release (2.0), or even like the previous release (1.8).

Feel free to share your thoughts.

Kind regards,
Kerrar

Developer resposne: This is merely a complain topic, not fit for "Ideas & Suggestions". Closed.

[about10pandas]

Supported in every way, 1.8 system was unbeatable

[Joey]

Supported 1.8 system

[Endri]

Supported I miss the old system 

[MK_Lucifer]

I don't know about the old system, but heard from a lot of people that it was a lot better.  SUPPORTED

[William Carter]

Supported.

I hope the dark orange for the high rank criminal should be implemented. Exactly same like old system.

[Senate]

Even though a Division leader didn`t like this idea and its still implemented...
Then what keeps this method that the developers chose so special...?

At the time I was looking for solutions from players that were a better alternative to disabling harvesting in front of cops. None were found so we are trying this out. If a cop (or many cops) are standing at the plant its simply not realistic for one to come and harvest it in their presence.

We are always looking for ways to improve which is why I like to ask questions here to get player feedback before making changes, sometimes we will make a change to test it out. If it causes major problems we can revert it, this change to harvesting seems to have a minimal impact on farming but has cut down on the trolling and copbaiting which I see as a positive outcome.

As for the old weed system that is something we can look at and discuss as well, this isn't the first time I've heard a player mention it.

[DJronald]

Supported ofc

[S65AMG]

Supported.

[superh2o]

as idea, new system did seem better, the old system was good, but didn't offer much RP, but was a more then decent money maker if you could find the right dealer.

New system is more RP less money making, i personally like the new system better, go fish if you need money.

[Surena]

as idea, new system did seem better, the old system was good, but didn't offer much RP, but was a more then decent money maker if you could find the right dealer.

New system is more RP less money making, i personally like the new system better, go fish if you need money.

You seem to use the word "But" many times, are you sure about what you wrote? 

I did have more roleplay with Joey, BeQa, SAQIB, Nadim and some others back then, but till today I haven`t seen many roleplays with it.
I have even seen most veterans stepping over to the Police Department, so nice roleplay gain for the criminal side I think..? And the problem is not only cash atm.

Many have the same problem as I have, as I see the replies above.
If money was our main concern, then the ocean wouldn`t have space anymore for all of us, so that`s not a valid solution to this either.

[steammies]

Supported.

[superh2o]

Was sleepy when i wrote it lol.

Still, it has more space for rp problem is no side wishes to rp, or if one side dose rp the other just harvests and drives off, few days ago me and zues were hunting a player after he aimed at us and did make a  threat against us, a shootout happened, dude did harvest as we were at a weed spot, got on bike and evaded us, in the end I rammed him he died and reported me for a Carkill, and this dude was no new player, so i dont blaim the script for lack of rp but the players.

[Kowalski.]

I don't know about the old system, but heard from a lot of people that it was a lot better.  SUPPORTED

I do remember the old system, holy shit, how much better it was.

[gabrielkiriac]

you say your main problem is not money however reading through your posts money seem to be the only issue here. the fact that you cant roleplay with the current system is in no way the system's fault since others have no problem with it.
there was lots of roleplay driving between 6 npcs doing /orderweed and occasionally shooting "enemies" down in 1.8 yes and the roleplay between players you say you had can still be done so I don't understand your issue.

"why wouldnt i fish if i needed money?" cuz it's boring as hell imo. driving around harvesting in front of cops and getting suspected is more fun right?
the old system was a complete mess to the whatever economy we have but sure if a good economy means having tens of players sitting at a million dollars+ yeah go ahead and request it back.