Something is wrong, how are we going to respond to this?

[Darty]

We get it, Management sucks, they're all evil, people left because of them yeah yeah.
 Who's gonna replace them then? How do you suggest that works? Don't just point at the problem, suggest a solution.

New management and developers. I've names in my head as well, but people are gonna come up with " no he's biased " just to shit on them

New developers? Alright and what do you suggest they do? RS5 isn't exactly a beginner script. The only people who are experienced with it and still active are Chase and myself.

Let us hear the people you have in mind of taking over.

Don't get butthurt without even trying to listen. I don't really know much about developing, but I know that we need new fresh scripts, that players will enjoy. Everyone is bored of the old ones. We need more developers, you guys literally added the /myproperties command one year after it was suggested. I mean, come on, one year for a small ass update? That's why we need new developers.

[Jimmy_Bowling]

We get it, Management sucks, they're all evil, people left because of them yeah yeah.
 Who's gonna replace them then? How do you suggest that works? Don't just point at the problem, suggest a solution.

New management and developers. I've names in my head as well, but people are gonna come up with " no he's biased " just to shit on them

New developers? Alright and what do you suggest they do? RS5 isn't exactly a beginner script. The only people who are experienced with it and still active are Chase and myself.

Let us hear the people you have in mind of taking over.

Don't get butthurt without even trying to listen. I don't really know much about developing, but I know that we need new fresh scripts, that players will enjoy. Everyone is bored of the old ones. We need more developers, you guys literally added the /myproperties command one year after it was suggested. I mean, come on, one year for a small ass update? That's why we need new developers.

Like READ THIS BEFORE you keep wasting the energy typing...

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=124591.msg1944929;topicseen#new


Really...

[Marcel]

We get it, Management sucks, they're all evil, people left because of them yeah yeah.
 Who's gonna replace them then? How do you suggest that works? Don't just point at the problem, suggest a solution.

New management and developers. I've names in my head as well, but people are gonna come up with " no he's biased " just to shit on them

New developers? Alright and what do you suggest they do? RS5 isn't exactly a beginner script. The only people who are experienced with it and still active are Chase and myself.

Let us hear the people you have in mind of taking over.

Don't get butthurt without even trying to listen. I don't really know much about developing, but I know that we need new fresh scripts, that players will enjoy. Everyone is bored of the old ones. We need more developers, you guys literally added the /myproperties command one year after it was suggested. I mean, come on, one year for a small ass update? That's why we need new developers.

I'm not butthurt, i'm just trying to understand what you want so we can work towards a solution.

More developers isn't dramatically going to increase the quality nor quantity of the scripts. Even though large changes are upcoming, that clearly isn't enough in the direct future.

As for your remarks about /myproperties that "you guys" took one year to complete: the current scripting team isn't even in charge of RS5 for 6 months. So, don't put that on us.

[Darty]

I'm not butthurt, i'm just trying to understand what you want so we can work towards a solution.

More developers isn't dramatically going to increase the quality nor quantity of the scripts. Even though large changes are upcoming, that clearly isn't enough in the direct future.

As for your remarks about /myproperties that "you guys" took one year to complete: the current scripting team isn't even in charge of RS5 for 6 months. So, don't put that on us.

" Upcoming " when? In plans? Sorry, we're all fed up with plans.

Well every single small update requires a long ass time to be put, always. If you guys don't have enough time to do this, which i really respect, because real life is a priority, let someone who can do it.

[Bogomil]

Darty you got no idea what you're talking about Eventho we really need bigger scripting team, throwing shit to the current one will not make it better.

[Marcel]

I'm not butthurt, i'm just trying to understand what you want so we can work towards a solution.

More developers isn't dramatically going to increase the quality nor quantity of the scripts. Even though large changes are upcoming, that clearly isn't enough in the direct future.

As for your remarks about /myproperties that "you guys" took one year to complete: the current scripting team isn't even in charge of RS5 for 6 months. So, don't put that on us.

" Upcoming " when? In plans? Sorry, we're all fed up with plans.

Well every single small update requires a long ass time to be put, always. If you guys don't have enough time to do this, which i really respect, because real life is a priority, let someone who can do it.

Making new stuff and updating existing stuff takes a long time. Why? Because the script is big. It's old. It's been worked on by 10-15 people who all added their own parts that were in their area of expertise. As a unintended side-effect, this resulted in overly complex scripts and modularity. Every developer has his own coding style and it is very hard to manage such a large script with the multitude of coding styles that are in it.

Chase and me are left with it and we are working our asses of to bring you new features. Since you know exactly the right people (so you say), let them contact us! If they are suitable, they will be invited into the team.

[Younes]

If this topic turns out a disaster of flying shitting bullets around, I request it to be locked.
This isn't the purpose of the topic, so please be constructive or keep your provokation out.. you don't constructively criticize by insulting other players and developers.

[Darty]

Darty you got no idea what you're talking about Eventho we really need bigger scripting team, throwing shit to the current one will not make it better.

I definitely do, unlike others. Not throwing shit. I've said it before, I respect their work. But we need a bigger scripting team, accept it or not.

Making new stuff and updating existing stuff takes a long time. Why? Because the script is big. It's old. It's been worked on by 10-15 people who all added their own parts that were in their area of expertise. As a unintended side-effect, this resulted in overly complex scripts and modularity. Every developer has his own coding style and it is very hard to manage such a large script with the multitude of coding styles that are in it.

Chase and me are left with it and we are working our asses of to bring you new features. Since you know exactly the right people (so you say), let them contact us! If they are suitable, they will be invited into the team.

Like I said, I respect your work. Well anyone, who thinks they can make it should, cause I can't give specific names. In this stage we need everyone to help, not just step back and watch

If this topic turns out a disaster of flying shitting bullets around, I request it to be locked.
This isn't the purpose of the topic, so please be constructive or keep your provokation out.. you don't constructively criticize by insulting other players and developers.

No, let's not do it like that. Let's not turn this into another useless topic. Why not let everyone suggest their own ideas below, on what should change? Let's start fixing things by our own.

[Dangerous]

Pointless discussions. Move on.

[Marcel]

Making new stuff and updating existing stuff takes a long time. Why? Because the script is big. It's old. It's been worked on by 10-15 people who all added their own parts that were in their area of expertise. As a unintended side-effect, this resulted in overly complex scripts and modularity. Every developer has his own coding style and it is very hard to manage such a large script with the multitude of coding styles that are in it.

Chase and me are left with it and we are working our asses of to bring you new features. Since you know exactly the right people (so you say), let them contact us! If they are suitable, they will be invited into the team.

Like I said, I respect your work. Well anyone, who thinks they can make it should, cause I can't give specific names. In this stage we need everyone to help, not just step back and watch

Every able bodied developer thus far has walked away except Chase and me. Those who are capable enough are more than welcome to join, but currently I don't know anyone who is even remotely interested in contributing right now.

[Younes]

Suggesting is far better from using an opportunity to shittalk on others. Your opinion is your opinion, and whether it is good or bad about someone, and you have the right to think whatever you want.. but expressing your opinion should only be within limits, and using an opportunity to fix the current state of the server to shit on it's leaders and developers is unacceptable, and is not the purpose of the topic.

[Darty]

Suggesting is far better from using an opportunity to shittalk on others. Your opinion is your opinion, and whether it is good or bad about someone, and you have the right to think whatever you want.. but expressing your opinion should only be within limits, and using an opportunity to fix the current state of the server to shit on it's leaders and developers is unacceptable, and is not the purpose of the topic.

Didn't do any shit talking, just said the truth without offending anyone. But hey, you guys wanna keep it like it is? Good. Keep thinking everything is alright with 2 players online, have fun.

[JackDockz]

Stop fighting ffs

[Jimmy_Bowling]

Stop fighting ffs

For the Love of all that is holy Read this and start posting on this so this can end. I cant lock this to make it stop but please let this be the last post.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=124591.msg1944937;topicseen#new

[ayyol]

I think we should all be friends