Something is wrong, how are we going to respond to this?

[Bogomil]

spit it out then, what are u afraid of

[Matt Murdock]

You don't need manager rank to be helpful. I'm not against khm, but I think everyone can contribute equally no matter of their rank in game.

You don't need mapper rank to map. You can just submit the maps to the community. #JustSaying

[Jimmy_Bowling]

ftp://

We need dedicated active honest and truthful staff. Not the opposite

Lets play some games then

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[Macy_Ema]

I'm not going to reply for this replies here, I'll reply to Younes's topic since I have raed all this replies and didn't get any idea about it..
Hey Younes look, I know many players didn't leave, they just got some exams, and I know many that just witing for holidays .. they're not died, they still here and reading the forum topics..Like me.. I didn't join since January 2018 but now I came back.. and soon the other players will come one by one no need to wait..
I knwo they look like they don't care , they don't think the Hq is the problem.. they got also real life, I belive that they will back as soon as possible..
Ignore my fool english or trying to write something well 

[Bogomil]

You don't need manager rank to be helpful. I'm not against khm, but I think everyone can contribute equally no matter of their rank in game.

You don't need mapper rank to map. You can just submit the maps to the community. #JustSaying

I got accepted as mapper and even if I haven't been accepted I wouldn't care, ranks mean nothing if u want to contribute ... If Khm wanted to say something he would
Another thing is that after Khm got demoted he said he deleted some important file that he created regarding the rules...If somebody has good intentions he would not care about the rank he has, he would still contribute.

[Khm]

I'm not going to reply for this replies here, I'll reply to Younes's topic since I have raed all this replies and didn't get any idea about it..
Hey Younes look, I know many players didn't leave, they just got some exams, and I know many that just witing for holidays .. they're not died, they still here and reading the forum topics..Like me.. I didn't join since January 2018 but now I came back.. and soon the other players will come one by one no need to wait..
I knwo they look like they don't care , they don't think the Hq is the problem.. they got also real life, I belive that they will back as soon as possible..
Ignore my fool english or trying to write something well 

Let's start Western Arabs clan then!

You don't need manager rank to be helpful. I'm not against khm, but I think everyone can contribute equally no matter of their rank in game.

You don't need mapper rank to map. You can just submit the maps to the community. #JustSaying

I got accepted as mapper and even if I haven't been accepted I wouldn't care, ranks mean nothing if u want to contribute ... If Khm wanted to say something he would
Another thing is that after Khm got demoted he said he deleted some important file that he created regarding the rules...If somebody has good intentions he would not care about the rank he has, he would still contribute.

Bollox, I refuse to contribute to something if it's going to waste, it would hurt more seeing it fall for nothing. You're one of the people spreading false accusations around aswell so you aren't off the hook from this. I refuse to also say anything as if I have it will just cause more people to be frustrated and leave aka adding fuel to the fire.

[Bogomil]

No I didn't mean to accuse you, for real. But the way you said it in that topic made it look that way.

[Miki.]

You don't need manager rank to be helpful. I'm not against khm, but I think everyone can contribute equally no matter of their rank in game.

You don't need mapper rank to map. You can just submit the maps to the community. #JustSaying

I got accepted as mapper and even if I haven't been accepted I wouldn't care, ranks mean nothing if u want to contribute ... If Khm wanted to say something he would
Another thing is that after Khm got demoted he said he deleted some important file that he created regarding the rules...If somebody has good intentions he would not care about the rank he has, he would still contribute.

Why because there we're some people who started in based rumors about him and shited on him with out bothering really digging into stuff before they throw accusations and he got demoted in the most pathetic and low way.  In his place I'd do the same I'm still amazed he is silent about everything . And his work not only wasn't appreciated the work he'd submit will go to waste I knew almost a month ago we will end up right here. 

Next time get your facts straight people about who is biased who makes players leave and who is a harm to this. Community to remind you player base was 50 at least when khm was here but from there it went straight down hill now wonder who protected the decenty of the community and who fucked it.

[Bogomil]

Get your facts straight before accusing me of accusing people. I really don't care about people who don't have the guts to talk. You either say everything you got to say like a man or don't fuckin' waste time saying you know something that others don't. I am amazed how you underestimate the HQ and the way he was demoted.
Come to the voice chat, along with Khm and a manager and we'll discuss everything you want to be discussed and sort things out for the sake of the community.

[JackDockz]

Can we stop blame management and leaders and look at ourself? 
Smoke some and reply

[Khm]

Get your facts straight before accusing me of accusing people. I really don't care about people who don't have the guts to talk. You either say everything you got to say like a man or don't fuckin' waste time saying you know something that others don't. I am amazed how you underestimate the HQ and the way he was demoted.
Come to the voice chat, along with Khm and a manager and we'll discuss everything you want to be discussed and sort things out for the sake of the community.

A manager is powerless in my case and a talk wont solve anything if the one who should be talking is just being a kid and insulting others with some racist remarks and refusing to talk.

[Stivi]

There are reasons why I don't come in game, and the main reason is player's mentality and me getting sick of the players DMing and money farming and just crying when a roleplay ends the way they ddin't want (which is the way they win). You can't do something when you have no motivation, that's how things work.

Exactly my man. My man. Remember when you punished like a bunch of _Gvardia members and began calling us DMers and what not, even after being told by HQ members that you were wrong? Yeah, that didn't happen once, it happens a lot, and not only by you, or admins, players do it too. And that's why I (we) lack motivation.

On my free time today, I updated Fortnite and LoL, and didn't play a single game because I had to go, I could have spent well over an hour on the server, but I'd rather not really, not like this.


The problem isn't lack of motivation or scripts or developers. The problem is there is nothing being done by the HQ to change things (not talking scripts).

[Younes]

Exactly my man. My man. Remember when you punished like a bunch of _Gvardia members and began calling us DMers and what not, even after being told by HQ members that you were wrong? Yeah, that didn't happen once, it happens a lot, and not only by you, or admins, players do it too. And that's why I (we) lack motivation.

What does this have to do with this topic? Besides I still stick to my opinion even though I have been forced off and never talked to until I myself went asking why what happened has happened. Afterall I'm in no position to judge an HQ member as it's the job of whomever is above, but I still have an opinion and no one could change it unless he gives me solid arguments.
Now you understand some of reasons why I do not play anymore and lost 80% of my motivation to go in game and went back to a server which I left a year ago for SAPD.

This topic isn't about your situation or mine though, it's about Argonath. Argonath did not die, we will stand off but not if we just stand back crying.. not if nothing is being done to get people motivated again.

You ask me why I'm sitting back and asking players and mainly HQ to work out something.. well this is because I'm quite tied now and I do not know whether anything I do would be valuable or would be another idea dumped in the inactivity of the server..

[Stivi]

Exactly my man. My man. Remember when you punished like a bunch of _Gvardia members and began calling us DMers and what not, even after being told by HQ members that you were wrong? Yeah, that didn't happen once, it happens a lot, and not only by you, or admins, players do it too. And that's why I (we) lack motivation.

What does this have to do with this topic? Besides I still stick to my opinion even though I have been forced off and never talked to until I myself went asking why what happened has happened. Afterall I'm in no position to judge an HQ member as it's the job of whomever is above, but I still have an opinion and no one could change it unless he gives me solid arguments.
Now you understand some of reasons why I do not play anymore and lost 80% of my motivation to go in game and went back to a server which I left a year ago for SAPD.

This topic isn't about your situation or mine though, it's about Argonath. Argonath did not die, we will stand off but not if we just stand back crying.. not if nothing is being done to get people motivated again.

You ask me why I'm sitting back and asking players and mainly HQ to work out something.. well this is because I'm quite tied now and I do not know whether anything I do would be valuable or would be another idea dumped in the inactivity of the server..

I still have like two more pages, but reading the title, I pointed out what's wrong. Guess I'll have to write all of that then, but you can also go through my post history and find a lot of suggestions/ideas on how to improve things around.

I don't want to make this personal about me and you, as I said, there are many more instances, I'll only use it as an example. You punished us, we showed you wrong, you still have your opinion. Well here's the thing, when you punish a player, it's not about your opinion on that player, it's about him actually being wrong. Now you may go around saying you're not biased and all that, but punishing people because of your opinion on them is wrong. And that makes players angry, and eventually, leave. (Miss that boycott meme man, good ol' days). Argonath isn't only SA:MP, but SA:MP is on its death bed, let's be real.

Well, why wouldn't someone question you for sitting back? You're an administrator of the server, good or bad doesn't matter, you have that position that you applied for, and you volunteer for it as well, no one is forcing you to do your job. Yet, you call people DMers but don't punish them? Hmm...

[Younes]

Not even going to start this again. Let's not derail the topic.