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Why is server ded? Bring back RS4

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Reply #30 on: May 27, 2019, 05:10:48 pm
Personally for me, it's the lack of RP. And that lack of RP gradually increased the past 3-4 years to the point of legit braindead 12 year old retards being unbanned just to sustain a playerbase. At this point I do not believe there's much that can be done to bring back the playerbase, despite our dev team's hard work(To which we should be grateful!). The fact we kept the same troublemaking groups keep growing and growing, no valid group administration, no rules or at least guidelines of Roleplay...We just took the final step toward being a freeroam server, and hate to say it but many of our members were free to roam elsewhere.
I agree alot of the playerbase have just moved on from this server and i don't think there's much more you can do to bring back the playerbase, In my opinion i believe that some of the groups and families in the server barely follow or knows the server rules or the groups and families rules, even not knowing how to roleplay and just really have the intuition of mass dming, hunting players down and many others things and yet nothing happens to them, they are some kind of "untouchables" and the same goes for other players. I believe that's ONE of the reasons the server is dead, the incapacity of the administration not properly dealing with the groups and families or even the players the way they should and keep giving them chances and chances so they can do it over and over again repeatedly.

If you look up the rules everything you see in-game it's completely different.

- Never fight another group because you hate them.

- Wars for invalid/weak reasons will be considered as mass death-matching. Clans and Groups can be DISBANDED (but yet this shit keeps happening and nothing happens) by the administrators if problems persist.

- Once an attack is over the attackers should leave the area and return to their own territory. Any retaliation attacks may only be carried out THREE HOURS after the initial attack occurred and this does NOT mean dead players may return to the role-play situation. (which i have seen many times not happen and players from both sides that died on the attack situation just come back after 3 hours and aparently they say "I can go back, it's a different situation", it actually isn't, you're still finding a way to attack the opposite side, and even if you try to find a completely different way of going after them, it's still the same shit.

- Killing any player on sight without interacting with them or giving them a chance to role-play.

Either this is a big bullshit and the rules are just a completely mess or i'm being illusional and not reading things right.

The list goes on and on.


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Reply #31 on: May 27, 2019, 06:46:09 pm
Monotony is the issue on all argonath servers.
Lack of activities. Lack of various jobs.
There's one or two well paying jobs, while the rest pay crap.
So everyone's either moneyhunting or bumming around.

I disagree for the Samp server atleast. Past months have seen a lot of development and the script is way more stable and interesting. Balancing is done nicely and various jobs are now worth doing.



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Reply #32 on: May 27, 2019, 10:17:27 pm
RS6 is clearly not working. Evidence is 0 players. Simple RS4 script had 100s of players. The decline was obviously because of script and rule changes.

Revert everything before there's nobody left to revert it for.

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Reply #33 on: May 27, 2019, 10:21:39 pm
RS6 is clearly not working. Evidence is 0 players. Simple RS4 script had 100s of players. The decline was obviously because of script and rule changes.

Revert everything before there's nobody left to revert it for.

Databases are lost, erased, deleted, get over it, lol



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Reply #34 on: May 27, 2019, 10:27:11 pm
RS6 is clearly not working. Evidence is 0 players. Simple RS4 script had 100s of players. The decline was obviously because of script and rule changes.

Revert everything before there's nobody left to revert it for.

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Reply #35 on: May 27, 2019, 10:47:46 pm
RS6 is clearly not working. Evidence is 0 players. Simple RS4 script had 100s of players. The decline was obviously because of script and rule changes.

Revert everything before there's nobody left to revert it for.

Databases are lost, erased, deleted, get over it, lol




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Reply #36 on: May 27, 2019, 11:09:27 pm
The man who created it, he himself destroyed it with his "vision". He forced the unfinished script (RS5) to be put onto the server. Can't tell if the hard reset or if the script itself not working was worse.

To the people of RP creed, you've been playing on the wrong server for a decade now. Argonath was unique because it was freeroam/light RP. As soon as you started making up random rules and scripts to stop that it went down the drain. I dont want to see someone displaying his good english knowledge by writing on his screen and adding a /me prefix, thats boring, i want to see Lustig landing AT-400 backwards on GS9 and if everything blows up, fuck it, it's cool.



Can we recall the bullshit story of how RS4 script was lost due to a DDoS attack or something?
All that was lost was a month of data and we know that because after people moaning about RS5, they rolledback RS4 with a month data loss and everything was cool again.

Then suddenly another DDoS happens and RS4 disappears again just to forcefully rollout RS5 and magically noone has a copy of RS4 script anymore.

 
The only good thing RS5 brought is the backend and players dont care for that. As long as FPS is good and things load decently fast it's fine. If it was working okay with 150 players, im sure it would work just fine with 50 nowadays.



I'm sure we all still play games, just not SAMP.  Most of us would have time to play SAMP if it was worth that time.

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Gandalf himself.

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Reply #37 on: May 27, 2019, 11:58:09 pm
I personally feel there's nothing wrong with the scripts. People just ran off to Mudoo RPG, because of some struggles Argonath has had. However, before the release of V:MP and the Armelin fiasco, we were having a good 40 players a night!

I feel players are demotivated by Argonath because of what Armelin did, which is understandable. However I feel that should we give it a go, we can get the playerbase back to 40 a night again. We just need to be motivated, dedicated and we'll need to be actively involved in Initiative: Carson.

Let's do this!  ;)


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Reply #38 on: May 27, 2019, 11:59:08 pm
The man who created it, he himself destroyed it with his "vision". He forced the unfinished script (RS5) to be put onto the server. Can't tell if the hard reset or if the script itself not working was worse.

To the people of RP creed, you've been playing on the wrong server for a decade now. Argonath was unique because it was freeroam/light RP. As soon as you started making up random rules and scripts to stop that it went down the drain. I dont want to see someone displaying his good english knowledge by writing on his screen and adding a /me prefix, thats boring, i want to see Lustig landing AT-400 backwards on GS9 and if everything blows up, fuck it, it's cool.



Can we recall the bullshit story of how RS4 script was lost due to a DDoS attack or something?
All that was lost was a month of data and we know that because after people moaning about RS5, they rolledback RS4 with a month data loss and everything was cool again.

Then suddenly another DDoS happens and RS4 disappears again just to forcefully rollout RS5 and magically noone has a copy of RS4 script anymore.

 
The only good thing RS5 brought is the backend and players dont care for that. As long as FPS is good and things load decently fast it's fine. If it was working okay with 150 players, im sure it would work just fine with 50 nowadays.



I'm sure we all still play games, just not SAMP.  Most of us would have time to play SAMP if it was worth that time.

Long story short, there's only one man to blame for this.
Gandalf himself.

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Reply #39 on: May 28, 2019, 02:16:40 am
RS6 is clearly not working. Evidence is 0 players. Simple RS4 script had 100s of players. The decline was obviously because of script and rule changes.

Revert everything before there's nobody left to revert it for.
Most script changes from 5.2 to 6 was done directly from player feedback. I don't think any amount of scripts can bring back players at this point. The RS4 code is still archived. I can set up a legacy server with RS4 in little time if people are so inclined to test this hypothesis.

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Reply #40 on: May 28, 2019, 02:43:01 am
RS6 is clearly not working. Evidence is 0 players. Simple RS4 script had 100s of players. The decline was obviously because of script and rule changes.

Revert everything before there's nobody left to revert it for.
Most script changes from 5.2 to 6 was done directly from player feedback. I don't think any amount of scripts can bring back players at this point. The RS4 code is still archived. I can set up a legacy server with RS4 in little time if people are so inclined to test this hypothesis.

Oh man oh man, RS4 fork. That would be intense. Maybe put it up for a vote? Kind of like how RS did for OSRS?



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Reply #41 on: May 28, 2019, 03:35:05 am
 



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Reply #42 on: May 28, 2019, 07:09:40 am
Scripts are cool. I just wish I had more time on my hands to join. Whenever I do join, someone else follows and we usually have a great time :bananav:



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Reply #43 on: May 28, 2019, 08:53:31 am
if all of you philosophers spent 1 minute per month for every word in your precious comments, we wouldnt be having this talk rn



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Reply #44 on: May 28, 2019, 09:02:03 am
Bogomil has a point   :lol:


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