We are a community

[Khm]

You are also the prime example of why a dedicated staff member gets fed up at some point and just says fuck it I'm out.

How exactly is making someone from Staff leave any worse than making regular players leave?

Same thing. Staff member=Player.

[Bogomil]

Good roleplay and good attitude = perfection
Good roleplay and toxic ooc attitude = not acceptable
Bad roleplay and good attitude = acceptable in case of improvement
Bad roleplay and toxic attitude = "pls Mr goobi unban me, won't repeat the same mistake again " - - - > 3 minutes after getting unbanned, back in the unban section

[Kowalski.]

When he believe he's right, he takes all the chances to provide it, in his own way, in a way that causes deathmatching, trolling, attacking fellow player verbally.
If people don't want to build a community together, then go away and play a single player game or something.. Don't disrupt and attack other people.

The prob here is that you "Holy Managament" Ban/punich players for their "bad reaction"
but have u ever asked urself WHY does the players RAGE ?
if u take a look at the reasons why the players react like that u will find out that its because of a personal prob with staff or bad action/treatment  from the staff
For exemple a staff abuse  smth and the players are aware that "form report" is USELESS / will be ignored
so its normal they rage like this and start to insult/rulebreak

anyway u better take a look into this
instead of Locked topics , ignoring , giving orders , and banning the remaining players!
and again i remaind u
we are humains not bunch of robots u can play with , control/program

If your nickname is [GSF]badboyhia I'd like to express my own opinion about your post and overall behavior of yours too.

Anything you pretty much mention is totally false. Yes there can be abusive staff/HQ at times but that's definitely not the case with you. If anything it's the exact opposite.
You should have been banned from the SAMP server quite a while ago for constantly annoying players by refusing to RP and finding the smallest excuse to freeze during a scene. You have your own RP rules and it's your way or no way. I feel mistreated and scammed on multiple scenes when you have ruined everyones fun multiple times and only ended up with a verbal warning.

So yeah.. I'd not take into account whatever you have to say about staff or HQ for that matter. You should be thankful instead you are not on the unban section on a constant basis to be brutally honest.
You are also the prime example of why a dedicated staff member gets fed up at some point and just says fuck it I'm out.

That is indeed his name, and I've got a thing or two to say as well.

As Senate has said, you borderline every rule, and as Charles said, you simply fuck up the experience for practically absolutely everyone on the server.

Bad roleplay and toxic attitude = "pls Mr goobi unban me, won't repeat the same mistake again " - - - > 3 minutes after getting unbanned, back in the unban section

Quite literally, this is you summed up in short. I have heard from several people, as well as having observed myself just what a dickhead you can be when you're online.

Nitrogen made the absolutely correct decision to simply ban you off the server, the experience has been a lot more enjoyable without your constant bullshit.

You should seriously change your attitude before considering attempting an unban request.

[Stivi]

I mean yeah, okay, but you should've kept those people out in the first place. Hackers as staff members and well I mean don't even come up with an excuse lol

[Sawyer]

You are also the prime example of why a dedicated staff member gets fed up at some point and just says fuck it I'm out.

How exactly is making someone from Staff leave any worse than making regular players leave?

Same thing. Staff or regulars are equal when it comes to rules. At least on paper.

All I tried to say is that constant bullshit on the HQ coming from guys like badboy is hypocritical and rather unfair. I've witnessed Mark Daniels almost exploding out of anger during a scene with badboy and I honesty felt disgusted that he was only warned for that specific scene.. and let me tell you that was just one scene on top of a huge pile.

I'm terribly sorry if the guy submitting the original reply is not that badboy.

[Stivi]

Badboy is really the problem here? What about the time he got banned for keybinds? We only speak from one perspective and that's not gonna help us communicate.

[Kowalski.]

All I tried to say is that constant bullshit on the HQ coming from guys like badboy is hypocritical and rather unfair. I've witnessed Mark Daniels almost exploding out of anger during a scene with badboy and I honesty felt disgusted that he was only warned for that specific scene.. and let me tell you that was just one scene on top of a huge pile.

I'm terribly sorry if the guy submitting the original reply is not that badboy.

It certainly is that badboy.

Being banned for keybinds was indeed Nathan's mistake, but badboy's audacity to talk smack to the HQ seeing as every time he's ingame, he acts like a total cunt, just disgusts the hell out of me, and quite honestly, I reckon there's almost nobody from HQ or even the playerbase who wants him back, and for really good reason.

That's literally proven by Charles seeing Mark Daniels almost explode... and to think what a chill, cool guy Mark is.. but it doesn't surprise me as badboydhia would likely piss off [WS]Legend, one of the most chill dudes ever in Argonath.

This is the sort of cancerous shit that creates toxicity in our community, and that's the sort of shit that needs to be permanently removed.

Regardless, I'm dome talking about badboydhia, not bothered to waste any more breath on him. Staff and players are all equal.

We need to maintain equality, transparency and fairness, as well as consideration of community input as well as modelling the community into a place where new players can learn, and become valued members.

[Sawyer]

Badboy is really the problem here?

No I was just sharing my two cents as everyone did here. What's the question here then? Jov's situation? JOV IS BANNED? There's a shock. 

On a more serious quote; I think Bas had a fair reign despite all the shit thrown in his face. In fact, he was the first division leader to be one of the most active players in the server. But it's in our Argonath blood to always have something to complain about, if that's what you wanna hear.

[jovanca]

Good roleplay and good attitude = perfection
Good roleplay and toxic ooc attitude = not acceptable
Bad roleplay and good attitude = acceptable in case of improvement
Bad roleplay and toxic attitude = "pls Mr goobi unban me, won't repeat the same mistake again " - - - > 3 minutes after getting unbanned, back in the unban section

you keep trying to provoke me every time you see me in game. you're doing it in this topic as well. i told you in past that i don't want to talk to you ever again, and to just keep me out of your mouth and i will do the same. but you just can't do that, can you?

Badboy is really the problem here?

No I was just sharing my two cents as everyone did here. What's the question here then? Jov's situation? JOV IS BANNED? There's a shock. 

On a more serious quote; I think Bas had a fair reign despite all the shit thrown in his face. In fact, he was the first division leader to be one of the most active players in the server. But it's in our Argonath blood to always have something to complain about, if that's what you wanna hear.

Oh yea what a surprise. Jov got banned 2 weeks after his last IG log in for saying 'Jov won Bas lost' on discord. That's a very legitimate reason to get banned, and a very nice ending to a 'fair reign'. I supported Bas from the moment he became leader untill the moment i noticed him blatantly abusing his power. When i tried to talk it out with him he threatened to ban me because he 'doesnt take shit from anyone'. You might be the kind of guy who goes as the wind blows, but i'm not. I got my principles and i stick to them.

As for you giving your two cents, i'm not sure what made you think this is appropriate thread to do so. i'm not sure what makes you think you're fit to judge anyone either.

[Stivi]

Badboy is really the problem here?

No I was just sharing my two cents as everyone did here. What's the question here then? Jov's situation? JOV IS BANNED? There's a shock. 

Yeah fuck off then mate, nobody asked for your input here. It's a heart to heart topic with the community Nathan created. In case you're not familiar with Nathan, his topics are mostly open-ended.

[Nathan]

Yeah as Stivi mentioned. I was simply looking to expand what it means to be in our community, why some might be removed, and how we prevent users from being abused by the power vacuum that occurs (e.g. "I don't shit from anyone so therefore I will ban you").

I, like many others, have stated, believe that shit users who only are toxic should be canned but what I learned is that we cannot rule in black and white. Each case needs to be handled carefully, first in order to make sure bias does not affect decision making, but as well as to make sure all options are weighed first. I also stand 100 percent with the idea that temp bans should be used more often instead of permabanned. At the current state of the community, we do not have the option to kick existing players off our community permanently. Every time we do this, we see a huge player count drop and a bad taste in everyone's mouths.

[Sawyer]

Yeah as Stivi mentioned. I was simply looking to expand what it means to be in our community, why some might be removed, and how we prevent users from being abused by the power vacuum that occurs (e.g. "I don't shit from anyone so therefore I will ban you").

I, like many others, have stated, believe that shit users who only are toxic should be canned but what I learned is that we cannot rule in black and white. Each case needs to be handled carefully, first in order to make sure bias does not affect decision making, but as well as to make sure all options are weighed first. I also stand 100 percent with the idea that temp bans should be used more often instead of permabanned. At the current state of the community, we do not have the option to kick existing players off our community permanently. Every time we do this, we see a huge player count drop and a bad taste in everyone's mouths.

I've always supported and trusted your thoughts and ideas regarding Argonath over the last months, even got bullshitted for doing so. I honestly believe you had a vision that would only improve the SAMP community. Still do.

Badboy is really the problem here?

No I was just sharing my two cents as everyone did here. What's the question here then? Jov's situation? JOV IS BANNED? There's a shock. 

On a more serious quote; I think Bas had a fair reign despite all the shit thrown in his face. In fact, he was the first division leader to be one of the most active players in the server. But it's in our Argonath blood to always have something to complain about, if that's what you wanna hear.

Oh yea what a surprise. Jov got banned 2 weeks after his last IG log in for saying 'Jov won Bas lost' on discord. That's a very legitimate reason to get banned, and a very nice ending to a 'fair reign'. I supported Bas from the moment he became leader untill the moment i noticed him blatantly abusing his power. When i tried to talk it out with him he threatened to ban me because he 'doesnt take shit from anyone'. You might be the kind of guy who goes as the wind blows, but i'm not. I got my principles and i stick to them.

As for you giving your two cents, i'm not sure what made you think this is appropriate thread to do so. i'm not sure what makes you think you're fit to judge anyone either.

Spare me from all the ban drama of yours I've been seeing over the last months. I couldn't care less and sure as hell not going to invest a single sentence in arguing about it with you. Despite you running the hood you fail to realize that you cannot get away with emptying an entire clip into someone's face without backfire.

Badboy is really the problem here?

No I was just sharing my two cents as everyone did here. What's the question here then? Jov's situation? JOV IS BANNED? There's a shock. 

Yeah fuck off then mate, nobody asked for your input here. It's a heart to heart topic with the community Nathan created. In case you're not familiar with Nathan, his topics are mostly open-ended.

It's a heart to heart topic innit.. Alright let's just have the topic filled with what we wanna see but simply cry ourselves all the way to Albania and ask them to fuck off when someone from the other side comes on participating. Classic.

[jovanca]

Spare me from all the ban drama of yours I've been seeing over the last months. I couldn't care less and sure as hell not going to invest a single sentence in arguing about it with you.

So why start talking about my ban in first place then?

Despite you running the hood you fail to realize that you cannot get away with emptying an entire clip into someone's face without backfire.

what are you even talking about?

[djole]

Spare me from all the ban drama of yours I've been seeing over the last months. I couldn't care less and sure as hell not going to invest a single sentence in arguing about it with you. Despite you running the hood you fail to realize that you cannot get away with emptying an entire clip into someone's face without backfire.

That's three sentences right there...

[Shorty.]

Y’all got issues.