Petition to leave SA:MP running

[danigold1]

Will all the shit we have in SAMP be transfered to MTA SA? Or are you guys making everything from scratch? Thinking a bunch of dudes who are now around 23-28 will go on a game on their bare minimum free time to Grind something they have done for countless hours in the past? To make money? And be able to RP the character most people in SAMP enjoy? A tough and rich motherfucker? If you dont plan on transfering the money we already have, I srsly dont get why you even bother ... No I dont agree with keeping SAMP open ,if for some reason we are transfering to MTA SA ... But if this is not a proper transfer and its simply a restart with a completelly new script, then for the love of god let it die in piece, dont waste your time!!

From the official announcement topic:

Players will start off on the server with starting items and money, along with a vehicle and an apartment.

Also, there is also nothing stopping you from RPing that you are a tough and rich motherfucker (which BTW is not what most people want to RP in my opinion). Pick some mansion and RP its yours, use an expensive state vehicle or rental and RP its yours. RP giving a wad of cash to someone for giving you basic help.
Don't let an inventory/property system limit your RPs. Theres always something you can do with enough creativity.

[Stefos]

Theres always something you can do with enough creativity.

[Badandy]

The MTA SA server is going to be a brand new server with no connection to SAMP except properties, interiors, and maps. Players will start as new accounts. That said, the mindset and experience of the server isn't about grinding for money. I want to provide a brand new experience in the server where my scripted interactive world gives players different options to explore and use to create a unique experience. Of course money is important but how you earn it won't be a constant grind. Grinding will always exist in some form but I want it to be rewarding if it exists. I am working on features that bring players together instead of push them away. Player generated content is very important to me and I believe will allow players to be creative and build better and more diverse roleplay and activities.

Some may not want to play San Andreas anymore and that's fine. Some may not want to start from zero again but the starting from zero in MTA SA is nothing like SAMP. You get an apartment, vehicle, money and items to get you right into the server. After that, it's up to you to explore the features and content of the server. Either content by the server that I made or what players make as they also explore and create.

Players will be given plenty of tools and abilities to be creative and show it.

Check out the announcement topic for more details and send me a message if you want to talk about the MTA SA server.

[Lonewolf]

Spoiler for Hiden:

This is getting ridiculous. MTA:SA will be replacing SA:MP and that's been verified by the wishes of the community.

Why this is even an ongoing discussion, I don't know.

<random rant>

You really should take a step back from Argonath as a whole. Your view on things is so fucked up and consumed by your own hatred towards the people here that you can't see anything that's right infront of you, except the bullshit you're knee deep in.

Please, do us both a favor and actually take a few months off. Work on yourself and your life, do what makes you happy instead of clinging on to have-beens.

I second Kessu. Nathan, all the best to you, I suggest that you try taking some time off, it may help. I'm sure you'd be welcome again once you've got a clear head and if you later wish to return.

Enough, come on.

Spoiler for Hiden:

[jwick]

Spoiler for Hiden:

This is getting ridiculous. MTA:SA will be replacing SA:MP and that's been verified by the wishes of the community.

Why this is even an ongoing discussion, I don't know.

<random rant>

You really should take a step back from Argonath as a whole. Your view on things is so fucked up and consumed by your own hatred towards the people here that you can't see anything that's right infront of you, except the bullshit you're knee deep in.

Please, do us both a favor and actually take a few months off. Work on yourself and your life, do what makes you happy instead of clinging on to have-beens.

I second Kessu. Nathan, all the best to you, I suggest that you try taking some time off, it may help. I'm sure you'd be welcome again once you've got a clear head and if you later wish to return.

Enough, come on.

Spoiler for Hiden:

what the bird have to do with this topic lol.

[Kowalski.]

Spoiler for Hiden:

This is getting ridiculous. MTA:SA will be replacing SA:MP and that's been verified by the wishes of the community.

Why this is even an ongoing discussion, I don't know.

<random rant>

You really should take a step back from Argonath as a whole. Your view on things is so fucked up and consumed by your own hatred towards the people here that you can't see anything that's right infront of you, except the bullshit you're knee deep in.

Please, do us both a favor and actually take a few months off. Work on yourself and your life, do what makes you happy instead of clinging on to have-beens.

I second Kessu. Nathan, all the best to you, I suggest that you try taking some time off, it may help. I'm sure you'd be welcome again once you've got a clear head and if you later wish to return.

Enough, come on.

Spoiler for Hiden:

what the bird have to do with this topic lol.

He just thinks he's funny. Admittedly it is funny to see a resort to such cheapshots when they lack the intellect to come up with anything better

Anyway, SA:MP is essentially an abandoned client. MTA:SA is light years ahead. Far better client, far more possibility and what we all want.

Time to just move on and let this thread die out now, I think it's been made clear now what we want and what'll happen

[jwick]

Hello community!

I brought this up in private with no real answer given so I wanted to bring this up in public.

I am not willing to let Argonath SA:MP server die. Especially an abandoned, left out in the cold death like this. I understand we have no developers and understand that Badandy does not want to work on it anymore due to personal reasons. I 100% understand why he doesn't want to work on this anymore.

Instead, what I propose is to keep SA:MP running in parallel to the development of MTA:SA.

I am personally willing to learn to code / fund the development of SA:MP (if it comes to that) for one simple reason: nostalgia. I want to be able to login into SA:MP every couple of months/years and still experience the game I grew up with. I want to go in game and grow weed. I want to go in game and drive a Roadtrain and grind through truck stops. I want to go in game and drive through a deserted LV at night. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

What this means specifically:
- Badandy continues work on MTA:SA and launches it as planned
- SA:MP will continue to run so that people can still enjoy the old server
- SA:MP will be in maintenance mode with no more features/upgrades until we find a developer willing to help

If you agree to this, please show your support. If you don't, let me know why.

I should share again, this question was also polled and a majority said not to run both servers. That being said, there's a good chunk that still wanted both but we have decided to only go with MTA SA.

Welcome to new topic about samp we see new topic about samp every month
about this drama  going on let me get in this too.
so about this topic  just so you know i was one of those people who voting to run both servers. i wanted the same thing i wanted that both servers can run so if people wanted to play samp or mta up to the player but after reading all the posts on this topic really what's the point  of running the old server. like we gonna get 100 players from no where yea i can understand about  legacy and memories things but really even if we run both server. the management will have there minds on mta not samp so they not gonna come fix little things like badandy said also even if leadership let you manage the server who will fix the server issues even you call some developer to help of course he will not fix things for only one player which is you  and how will we be sure you not gonna leave in a week and making new topic saying i was wrong we should shut down the server you left so many times that no one take you serious  now. about you growing up playing the old server and making memories you can do same thing on mta its just a different client not a whole new game.  so far only you and me reach out to let both server running even i back out so you the only one so far who care about samp server so i will suggest you not wasting your time here and maybe give idea what you like to have in new server and i wont be surprise to see you making a new topic about samp in some weeks.

[Huntsman]

Welcome to new topic about samp we see new topic about samp every month
about this drama  going on let me get in this too.
so about this topic  just so you know i was one of those people who voting to run both servers. i wanted the same thing i wanted that both servers can run so if people wanted to play samp or mta up to the player but after reading all the posts on this topic really what's the point  of running the old server. like we gonna get 100 players from no where yea i can understand about  legacy and memories things but really even if we run both server. the management will have there minds on mta not samp so they not gonna come fix little things like badandy said also even if leadership let you manage the server who will fix the server issues even you call some developer to help of course he will not fix things for only one player which is you  and how will we be sure you not gonna leave in a week and making new topic saying i was wrong we should shut down the server you left so many times that no one take you serious  now. about you growing up playing the old server and making memories you can do same thing on mta its just a different client not a whole new game.  so far only you and me reach out to let both server running even i back out so you the only one so far who care about samp server so i will suggest you not wasting your time here and maybe give idea what you like to have in new server and i wont be surprise to see you making a new topic about samp in some weeks.

I was gonna read what you said but the lack of capitalisation and proper punctuation made my head hurt .

[danigold1]

I was gonna read what you said but the lack of capitalisation and proper punctuation made my head hurt .

🦜

[Huntsman]

I was gonna read what you said but the lack of capitalisation and proper punctuation made my head hurt .

🦜

.... :DDD this is just.... 

[Nylez]

I think we've established that there is no intention to keep SA:MP running.

So: How's the weather over there ladies and gentlemen? Over here it's 21 degrees celsius at 11 pm!

[Huntsman]

I think we've established that there is no intention to keep SA:MP running.

So: How's the weather over there ladies and gentlemen? Over here it's 21 degrees celsius at 11 pm!

19 degrees here.

[jwick]

Welcome to new topic about samp we see new topic about samp every month
about this drama  going on let me get in this too.
so about this topic  just so you know i was one of those people who voting to run both servers. i wanted the same thing i wanted that both servers can run so if people wanted to play samp or mta up to the player but after reading all the posts on this topic really what's the point  of running the old server. like we gonna get 100 players from no where yea i can understand about  legacy and memories things but really even if we run both server. the management will have there minds on mta not samp so they not gonna come fix little things like badandy said also even if leadership let you manage the server who will fix the server issues even you call some developer to help of course he will not fix things for only one player which is you  and how will we be sure you not gonna leave in a week and making new topic saying i was wrong we should shut down the server you left so many times that no one take you serious  now. about you growing up playing the old server and making memories you can do same thing on mta its just a different client not a whole new game.  so far only you and me reach out to let both server running even i back out so you the only one so far who care about samp server so i will suggest you not wasting your time here and maybe give idea what you like to have in new server and i wont be surprise to see you making a new topic about samp in some weeks.

I was gonna read what you said but the lack of capitalisation and proper punctuation made my head hurt .

  to make it easier for your head I said there no Point in running the server

[Kowalski.]

I think we've established that there is no intention to keep SA:MP running.

So: How's the weather over there ladies and gentlemen? Over here it's 21 degrees celsius at 11 pm!

17° C here at 10am

[Badandy]

I should say, I feel quite inspired by everyone responding positively even if some may not play on the MTA SA server. And I have also received some kind private messages as well since announcing the server. Support isn't always public and in your face. Thank you everyone for your response. I feel good about the direction we are heading based on this topic, the announcement, discord and the private conversations I had with people.