Petition to leave SA:MP running

[Sawyer]

I should say, I feel quite inspired by everyone responding positively even if some may not play on the MTA SA server. And I have also received some kind private messages as well since announcing the server. Support isn't always public and in your face. Thank you everyone for your response. I feel good about the direction we are heading based on this topic, the announcement, discord and the private conversations I had with people.

You should feel quite inspired regardless of the positive responses, Badandy. This community has lacked developers that are willing to step up and offer a functional and healthy environment for those who still care. Whether that's MTA:SA, III:MP, or V:MP. It doesn't matter really.

You should already know by now that there is a very healthy core of players that only seek for a solid server to spend time on. Putting that into context, there still might be a fair amount of followers that disagree with a decision of yours in the near future, does it mean you'll feel discouraged by that fact? No, you shouldn't.

I myself am also excited for the MTA:SA project and can't wait to be a part of it.


This community has to find its way back to a progressing level. Ages of the games and players, IRL duties as well as some other rubbish of excuses of why we have reached this point is simply irrelevant. Most of the remaining life of this community is a group of well-matured individuals that are still very interested in seeing this place thrive again.

Unite. At last.

[Zlatan]

This post is making me feel old...

[Nathan]

The only time the community gets any activity is when there is an active conversation like this one. I am glad that I can provide spikes for that activity and have people unite against me. I am glad.

But I am also pessimistic on MTA specifically and believe that just like V:MP, this "dream" of what MTA:SA will be, won't actually occur. There will be some sort of excuse, some sort of delay, and then the project will be dropped all together.

One can only hope for a bright future, yet right now, things look dim from the outside.

[Badandy]

The only time the community gets any activity is when there is an active conversation like this one. I am glad that I can provide spikes for that activity and have people unite against me. I am glad.

But I am also pessimistic on MTA specifically and believe that just like V:MP, this "dream" of what MTA:SA will be, won't actually occur. There will be some sort of excuse, some sort of delay, and then the project will be dropped all together.

One can only hope for a bright future, yet right now, things look dim from the outside.

I admit, I have dropped previous projects in the past due to school and other hurdles but right now I'm just cruising with nothing stopping me from developing MTA SA. The only way this project ends is that something happens to me. I don't expect to get whacked anytime soon. I don't blame people for being skeptical of the MTA SA server I'm making, I don't exactly have a server up so it's a lot of promises and screenshots. I do think you should stay away like you said you would and focus on yourself and be well. Argonath RPG currently is a bit dim, yes but I plan on replacing a lightbulb, it takes time but maybe we can have a server some players may enjoy. I don't expect hundreds of players or anything crazy but I hope we can advertise and talk with active members of this community and have a little fun for however long we have. I'm having a lot of fun working on this project and I hope it becomes a reality as I see it and as I have talked about. Have a good day.

[Stivi]

Hey so I didn't read any of this, but I'm pretty sure RS5 is leaked, so... why are you asking for permission?

[danigold1]

Hey so I didn't read any of this, but I'm pretty sure RS5 is leaked, so... why are you asking for permission?

Bro my uncle works for Argonath RPG and he actually showed me an early version of RS6 and lemme tell you something pal, that shit is BUSSIN!

[Zlatan]

Lets face it.. The server is dead.... Also the Fort Carson thing was a real big mistake... The coming of RS5 destroyed the playerbase was the beginning of the end...
What's left of Argonath on SA:MP is the reminiscence... Sad to see what Argonath became...

[Huntsman]

Lets face it.. The server is dead.... Also the Fort Carson thing was a real big mistake... The coming of RS5 destroyed the playerbase was the beginning of the end...
What's left of Argonath on SA:MP is the reminiscence... Sad to see what Argonath became...

Again, speaks volumes. Last post in 2020 prior to the shitposts here.

Mate, You know what is more sad? A grown man (which I would assume you are by now given I remember you playing RS4) coming to a community that is facing hardships, but is at least trying to do something about it and belittling the very few people that still care.

If you have nothing nice to say just fuck off then. If you left, stay left. How miserable does your shitty life has to be for you to be going around and putting other people down?
I've seen behaviour like this before - in people who get pushed around in their lives so they feel some relief by taking it out on others.

nobody gives a shit what you have to say. The reason I remember you is because I have good memory - anybody else is probably thinking who the fuck you are.
I prefer you stay "left" to be fair - you were a fucking asswipe from what I remember, and your yapping here is refreshing the memory.

[Zlatan]

Lets face it.. The server is dead.... Also the Fort Carson thing was a real big mistake... The coming of RS5 destroyed the playerbase was the beginning of the end...
What's left of Argonath on SA:MP is the reminiscence... Sad to see what Argonath became...

Again, speaks volumes. Last post in 2020 prior to the shitposts here.

Mate, You know what is more sad? A grown man (which I would assume you are by now given I remember you playing RS4) coming to a community that is facing hardships, but is at least trying to do something about it and belittling the very few people that still care.

If you have nothing nice to say just fuck off then. If you left, stay left. How miserable does your shitty life has to be for you to be going around and putting other people down?
I've seen behaviour like this before - in people who get pushed around in their lives so they feel some relief by taking it out on others.

nobody gives a shit what you have to say. The reason I remember you is because I have good memory - anybody else is probably thinking who the fuck you are.
I prefer you stay "left" to be fair - you were a fucking asswipe from what I remember, and your yapping here is refreshing the memory.

And who are you? HAHA.. Don't worry I prefer being "left" too. Argonath failed its own community and that's why its dead. The choice of administration and staff members always baffled me too, not being to take any criticism is a result of what Argonath is today... Your life must be fulfilled with the attitude you have, have fun

[Ethan.]

Unfortunately SAMP is dead and I think MTA:SA will hopefully save the community 

[Kowalski.]

And y'all wonder why Argonath is dead.

If you're not interested and just want to talk shit, piss off.

Otherwise cut the bickering and just play. This is becoming outright stupidity.

[Huntsman]

And who are you? HAHA.. Don't worry I prefer being "left" too. Argonath failed its own community and that's why its dead. The choice of administration and staff members always baffled me too, not being to take any criticism is a result of what Argonath is today... Your life must be fulfilled with the attitude you have, have fun

[Cutt3r]

While some decisions may not have been the best for the SAMP community, after a point, players gave up on the server cuz they didn't want to play alone.

I'm convinced that the community is moving in the right direction now. The big difference between MTA SA and SAMP for me is the possibility of a steady set of new players, thanks to the client. With new players, we would need experienced players and admins to manage the server. The map is the same and with some possibilities that MTASA has which BadAndy has showcased, we would have a better server than what we have now. Shutting it down seems to be the best decision considering the above.

[Astaroth]

I mean, if no one's logging in..just kill it.

[Stivi]

I mean, if no one's logging in..just kill it.

I don't see the point though. Gandalf said that it bears no significant server costs and it would still stay up. So now we must kill it? Go to therapy maybe.

We've had these conversations before, can't you see this is a cycle? Just let it be.

Hey so I didn't read any of this, but I'm pretty sure RS5 is leaked, so... why are you asking for permission?

Bro my uncle works for Argonath RPG and he actually showed me an early version of RS6 and lemme tell you something pal, that shit is BUSSIN!

It's fun being ignorant

While some decisions may not have been the best for the SAMP community, after a point, players gave up on the server cuz they didn't want to play alone.

I'm convinced that the community is moving in the right direction now. The big difference between MTA SA and SAMP for me is the possibility of a steady set of new players, thanks to the client. With new players, we would need experienced players and admins to manage the server. The map is the same and with some possibilities that MTASA has which BadAndy has showcased, we would have a better server than what we have now. Shutting it down seems to be the best decision considering the above.

I agree, but I would like to correct the last sentence:

Shutting it down seems to be the best unnecessary decision considering the above.