[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Aragorn]

Situation : There is a bank robbery in progress,i am a cop and i have no idea the robbery is going on. I walk to the bank to pay a loan. An unknown man outside the bank watches me as i go towards the door, and without any warning or threat or anything, he guns me down with an AK 47. I claim it is DM, the bank robber claims it was RP...

Is this RP or DM?

From robber's side - he was roleplaying... As during the bank robbery suddenly got in a police officer...
From your side it was deathmatch as you were not involved in roleplay...

Mistake that was made: both sides had no connection to each other...

Robber should warn about roleplay robbery... As policeman came "second" to bank, robbers have all rights to ask a policeman and give the player a choice on role - either he supports/getting involved in roleplay or he is out of this RP event...

1. Cop can leave the building (out from roleplay situation)
2. Cop can be shot (involved)
3. Cop can be taken as hostage (involved)

[David_Omid]

Situation: Someone advertises that they are selling a car ownership for $5000. A new player sees this advertisement and contacts the seller. They arrange to meet at a certain location and the money is transferred. After the money has been transferred, the buyer gets into the car and the seller leaves. The deal is done.
However, a minute later, the buyer contacts the seller and asks them why they do not have ownership. The seller reminds the buyer to use /buycar. The buyer then claims one or more of the following:

1. They need a license
2. They have not got enough money

With all of these they realise that they do not have ownership of the car...so they want their money back. The seller tells them that they do not want to refund them. The buyer then reports the player for scamming.

 

Does doing a transaction like this while the buyer has no knowledge of what needs to be done count as scamming new players?

What do the administrators do? Do they take action against the seller or do they just say that the seller had not intended to scam them? If action is needed, what is it?

[sinamun]

Situation: a Gang of Mafia members go into a casino, have all the Security and civilians under controll, leader has gun to Casino owners head, he asks for the Casino loot, the casino owner says, 'My arrse' /exit.

Question: What kind of RP is this?
i didnt know irl if you had a gun to your head, you could just say my ass and jump to Another State.


- Happens to be, this player has an application on the R* Forum

[Chase]

Situation: A kidnapper kidnaps someone, and barricades themself in an a interior where no guns are can be used. The hostage is badly injured so a punch can kill him. The police arrive and can't do an assault because guns aren't enabled in interiors. If they suspect him, he will just punch and kill the hostage. So there is nothing the police can do to save the hostage.
Is this against the rules and what to do in the situation?

[Pandalink]

Situation: A kidnapper kidnaps someone, and barricades themself in an a interior where no guns are can be used. The hostage is badly injured so a punch can kill him. The police arrive and can't do an assault because guns aren't enabled in interiors. If they suspect him, he will just punch and kill the hostage. So there is nothing the police can do to save the hostage.
Is this against the rules and what to do in the situation?

Currently it is procedure to suspect the kidnapper before any fighting begins, anyway.
If they are hiding in an interior as a criminal (whether suspected or not, they have committed a crime) then that is against the rules.

Unless the developers have a different view?

[Yihka]

three situations of kidnapping



If a kidnapper kidnaps someone with someone else, has the hostage under shot while the other talks to the cops, would it be ok for the cops to kill any of the suspects knowing that the hostage will die?

If the kidnappers fail to keep the hostage under shot, and the cops kill the suspects then, is it ok?

If the cops have no chance of getting the hostage out alive without paying the bribe, should the cops do the bribe and let them escape?

[WDoyle]

three situations of kidnapping



If a kidnapper kidnaps someone with someone else, has the hostage under shot while the other talks to the cops, would it be ok for the cops to kill any of the suspects knowing that the hostage will die?

If the kidnappers fail to keep the hostage under shot, and the cops kill the suspects then, is it ok?

If the cops have no chance of getting the hostage out alive without paying the bribe, should the cops do the bribe and let them escape?

1. In this situation, If the cops determine it as a full kidnapping. And all the suspects surrounding are helping. Then the cops best aim is to arrest but if weapons are found, Cops will need to determine whether to shoot or try and flood them out. Killing is fine in the situation.

2. This is what happens in most kidnappings and its fine. Becuase the kidnapper was classed as a threat and was dealt with the apprioate actions.

3. They should either pay or flood them out meaning a group of armed cops run in all guns blazing making sure the main kidnapper is dealt with first.

Hope this helps

[JDC]

A Cop who has done his duty well has caught a suspect who is about surrendere. The Admins are busy spectating rulebreakers or there are no admins online or all are AFK. The Cop is about to bring the suspect to jail when an abuser freecop comes with a sawnoff and tries to kill the suspect for the money.

Is the Cop allowed to defend the suspect by killing the DMer freecop?

-This actually happened, and I ended up killing the abuser freecop.

[charz]

A man Rode a limo , which is not Own by him, waiting customer to call him. And to save fuel he step outside the car .And stand near from the limo . And then there is a player come here and take the limo and drove away..The limo did /p hey can u give me back the limo? and the MAn said : It is not owned by you. So it is not carjack
Queation:what can the limo driver do?  and did it counte as carjack?

[Inkognito]

A man Rode a limo , which is not Own by him, waiting customer to call him. And to save fuel he step outside the car .And stand near from the limo . And then there is a player come here and take the limo and drove away..The limo did /p hey can u give me back the limo? and the MAn said : It is not owned by you. So it is not carjack
Queation:what can the limo driver do?  and did it counte as carjack?

It can not be counted as carjack, as it's car theft. Carjacking is the action, when Player A drags out Player B from the vehicle where Player B was.

[JohhnyJaz]

a gang calls player A to help them with kiddnapping, when player A arrives and enters the van and they kiddnapp player A and drag him into a building(no interoir its near the SF driving school.) then cops arrive, a cop tries to trade himself for player A but when the cop arrives they also kiddnapp him, and they kill player A, then player A spawns at LS and goes to the PD to change to a cadet and rushes to the kiddnapping situation so is Player A allowed to do that?

[Gandalf]

A Cop who has done his duty well has caught a suspect who is about surrendere. The Admins are busy spectating rulebreakers or there are no admins online or all are AFK. The Cop is about to bring the suspect to jail when an abuser freecop comes with a sawnoff and tries to kill the suspect for the money.

Is the Cop allowed to defend the suspect by killing the DMer freecop?

-This actually happened, and I ended up killing the abuser freecop.

Ask the criminal to surrender, and when another cop kills him he will receive a warning by script. If you kill the freecop, you are the one being warned.
To prevent your suspect from being killed, stand in the line of fire while telling the cop to stop his action and follow procedures.

[Gandalf]

a gang calls player A to help them with kiddnapping, when player A arrives and enters the van and they kiddnapp player A and drag him into a building(no interoir its near the SF driving school.) then cops arrive, a cop tries to trade himself for player A but when the cop arrives they also kiddnapp him, and they kill player A, then player A spawns at LS and goes to the PD to change to a cadet and rushes to the kiddnapping situation so is Player A allowed to do that?

It depends on his intentions. If he wishes to continue the play by taking part as cop, then he is allowed to. If his intentions are to kill the person that killed him, this is revenge killing and is not allowed.

[Proxan]

A cop pullover a person that was speeding in about , lets say 200km/h and reckless driving...
He is about to issue the person a ticket... The person says he doesnt want to rp and drive off...

Is the cop allowed to suspect him?
Is that allowed as soon as youre about to get fined you just say you dont want to rp?

[Aragorn]

A cop pullover a person that was speeding in about , lets say 200km/h and reckless driving...
He is about to issue the person a ticket... The person says he doesnt want to rp and drive off...

Is the cop allowed to suspect him?
Is that allowed as soon as youre about to get fined you just say you dont want to rp?

Police Officer has all rights to suspect for reckless driving and avoiding the punishment... Either he pays ticket, or he goes to jail, or he is gonna be killed for refusing all before...