Just to get the Hydra and Hunter regulations right...

[Antonio.]

Whenever a Hunter is chasing an NRG, the only thing that goes trough the pilot's mind is "HURR DURR I CAN'T SHOOT! Imma use minigun with autoaim! That'll teach him!!"
Military aircraft should only be used against airborne suspects, and in extreme situations on boats. Not just "z0mfg he enter water bring in the hydra!!".

[Hevar.]

Cops have so much luxury things like much more right,they have speical aircraft and special vehicle. Now they need to make so we crimnal cant escape on NRG or swim,cmon guys let us have some luxury thing too.

I support suspect on NRG is right!!!!

[Antonio.]

I just do not see any logic in letting an aircraft chase a motorbike. A few police cruisers can take it down easily, and by drivebying and shooting a NRG's tire, the driver of the NRG might as well give up since the NRG loses all it's control.

[EminemRulez]

Once I was chased by a Hunter on a boat and they didn't shoot, they landed it on the bridges and shot the boat instead - no idea why.. is it against any rule to use it on boats? Or they were just cool cops? :razz:

[IronHiDe]

Cops have so much luxury things like much more right,they have speical aircraft and special vehicle. Now they need to make so we crimnal cant escape on NRG or swim,cmon guys let us have some luxury thing too.

I support suspect on NRG is right!!!!

I support no returning, nuff said 

[Chris_Knight]

Supported about publicing hydra and hunter rules yet all of us are humans and the simple logic of argonath is suspects always gona complain about cops having somthing or doing somthing and cops always gona complain about suspects doing somthing having somthing. When this thing gona be clear out in nearest month gona fall in another complain with other bullshit,never end circle 

[Chase]

FBI has released the procedures for the reason this topic was made - To answer to people who ANNOYINGLY continue to question the rules of engagement... Which obviously did NOT work...

FBI's procedures were made by a server manager himself, we didn't make it.

So anyhow - I am not gonna waste my time re-posting it. Rather, I'll put it in a nutshell.

Don't wanna die? Do not step foot into a plane or boat, and do NOT fire upon a hunter / hydra.

And just because you exit the aircraft / boat after spotting the hydra / hunter does NOT mean you're safe... The pilot is STILL authorized to SHOOT if you do not stop fleeing for the sole fact that you WERE PREVIOUSLY in an aircraft / boat (However, if he's nice, he will warn you to stop before opening fire, tho not required). The sole reason of this is simple - FBI will NOT be playing the cat and mouse game by switching to land and air all the time. Too many people have gotten an aircraft, spotted hydra, jumped out... Once the hunter was dumped and ground units called in... They hop back in the aircraft AGAIN and take off.

Also note - Acts of terrorism are grounds for a hunter / hydra to be called out as a SHOW OF FORCE ONLY. It CANNOT fire unless fired upon by terrorists.

So if you're simply in a car, and did NOT open fire on a hunter / hydra.. You're should be safe. And YES we STRICTLY enforce these rules of engagement. Agents have been FIRED for abusing it.


So yeah, if you want change, take it up to the managers. Personally, I believe it's fine the way it is.

[JayL]

Military aircraft should only be used against airborne suspects, and in extreme situations on boats. Not just "z0mfg he enter water bring in the hydra!!".

I thought surf-shooting could not be done on boats? If it really can't, then I have to say it's going to be a bothering situation...

[Chris_Knight]

To Chase,as I stated above criminals will always complain same as cops so this annoying thing will never end ,human nature. 

[[Rstar]Paul]

I am currently working on re-writing the rules so that everything is covered and clear, when that comes I will also be publishing rules for the police. These will be as they are now but clearly stated.

Amongst this will be a clear server rule for heavy air usage; I do not mind the SAPD keeping secrets but server rules will be known to everyone regardless of the SAPD's internal confidentiality policies. I will create this rule based upon what I already know and common sense, taking into account the essential aspect of game balance.

If the SAPD wants their own procedures taken into account, someone from their command should make contact with me. If no one does this I will make and publish a rule without consultation which may differ from the current procedures.

Talk to you later on regarding this.

If you guys are still wondering why SAPD hasn't yet reavlied the regulations & policys. It's because we don't have a clear view from the President as he has approved it.
CBFasi made it clear that NO policy should be reaviled unless President approves so, with a discussion with the Chiefs. It's been like that since ever implemented.

We're happy to give out any regulation/policy after we can get a approval or an overview of the heavy usage. Please understand such circumstances.

[Ben.]

Talk to you later on regarding this.

If you guys are still wondering why SAPD hasn't yet reavlied the regulations & policys. It's because we don't have a clear view from the President as he has approved it.
CBFasi made it clear that NO policy should be reaviled unless President approves so, with a discussion with the Chiefs. It's been like that since ever implemented.

We're happy to give out any regulation/policy after we can get a approval or an overview of the heavy usage. Please understand such circumstances.

Deputy Chief Caltson, I was under the impression that certain members of SAPD Command have been able to use hunter/hydra rights for a while now...surely there must be some approved regulations in the interest of public safety.
I would argue that "reasonable force" would amalgamate with this in a fashion...using a hydra on a motorbike is excessive, but perhaps not so excessive if warned multiple times when flying a plane.

[[Rstar]Paul]

Only people who are allowed to use H/H are:

- SAPD Deputy Chief(+)
- SWAT Commander
- FBI Division Chief(+)

As said once again, I'll explain somethings once everything is clear..

[Leon.]

FBI has released the procedures for the reason this topic was made - To answer to people who ANNOYINGLY continue to question the rules of engagement... Which obviously did NOT work...

FBI's procedures were made by a server manager himself, we didn't make it.

So anyhow - I am not gonna waste my time re-posting it. Rather, I'll put it in a nutshell.

Don't wanna die? Do not step foot into a plane or boat, and do NOT fire upon a hunter / hydra.

And just because you exit the aircraft / boat after spotting the hydra / hunter does NOT mean you're safe... The pilot is STILL authorized to SHOOT if you do not stop fleeing for the sole fact that you WERE PREVIOUSLY in an aircraft / boat (However, if he's nice, he will warn you to stop before opening fire, tho not required). The sole reason of this is simple - FBI will NOT be playing the cat and mouse game by switching to land and air all the time. Too many people have gotten an aircraft, spotted hydra, jumped out... Once the hunter was dumped and ground units called in... They hop back in the aircraft AGAIN and take off.

Also note - Acts of terrorism are grounds for a hunter / hydra to be called out as a SHOW OF FORCE ONLY. It CANNOT fire unless fired upon by terrorists.

So if you're simply in a car, and did NOT open fire on a hunter / hydra.. You're should be safe. And YES we STRICTLY enforce these rules of engagement. Agents have been FIRED for abusing it.


So yeah, if you want change, take it up to the managers. Personally, I believe it's fine the way it is.

Deal.

[Antonio.]

FBI has released the procedures for the reason this topic was made - To answer to people who ANNOYINGLY continue to question the rules of engagement... Which obviously did NOT work...

FBI's procedures were made by a server manager himself, we didn't make it.

So anyhow - I am not gonna waste my time re-posting it. Rather, I'll put it in a nutshell.

Don't wanna die? Do not step foot into a plane or boat, and do NOT fire upon a hunter / hydra.

And just because you exit the aircraft / boat after spotting the hydra / hunter does NOT mean you're safe... The pilot is STILL authorized to SHOOT if you do not stop fleeing for the sole fact that you WERE PREVIOUSLY in an aircraft / boat (However, if he's nice, he will warn you to stop before opening fire, tho not required). The sole reason of this is simple - FBI will NOT be playing the cat and mouse game by switching to land and air all the time. Too many people have gotten an aircraft, spotted hydra, jumped out... Once the hunter was dumped and ground units called in... They hop back in the aircraft AGAIN and take off.

Also note - Acts of terrorism are grounds for a hunter / hydra to be called out as a SHOW OF FORCE ONLY. It CANNOT fire unless fired upon by terrorists.

So if you're simply in a car, and did NOT open fire on a hunter / hydra.. You're should be safe. And YES we STRICTLY enforce these rules of engagement. Agents have been FIRED for abusing it.


So yeah, if you want change, take it up to the managers. Personally, I believe it's fine the way it is.

Most of us actually thought this, but once seeing in game that these air crafts were used against bikes and swimming suspects, WHO DID NOT ENGAGE AGAINST THE AIR CRAFTS, we needed a clarification of what is really up... And it seems pretty stupid that FBI and SAPD has their different regulations, even more stupid that SAPD doesn't tell us their regulations.

[Emre]

The only purpose of using hunter / hydra should be when the suspect is drivin on a boat or in the air with a helicopter / airplane. Yes, even if it doesn't make him escape. That stil should not mean that they are permitted to assassinate suspects with H/H all the time. If that turns to be stereotypical during these kinds of pursuits, I can see that it will just escalate and lead to Hunter and Hydra forbidden entirely.