[PETITON] Un-sused Criminals to be able to assist Criminal friends - EQUALITY!

[Salvatore_Zambino]

Please note, where ever I had said "Civilians" I meant un-sused criminals. By criminals I mean people who USUALLY RP as a criminal character!

Hello everybody,

you can already guess from the title what this petition is going to be about. Well let me explain myself. You may be thinking that if passing this petition the server will become some sort of Cops VS Criminals server. Well the shootouts may be but not the roleplay. If un-sused civilians were able to assist there criminal friends then the more concentrated the criminal actions/roleplay will be. I agree with the fact that you cannot just enter half way through a bank robbery, BUT if your criminal friends are in need, when running from police un-sused friends should be able to help them. I am doing this because I believe that the server is becoming more biased FOR the police, and more against towards criminal's.

You may be thinking that it might be a handfull for administration and police. Well if this petition is passed then administration have nothing to worry about BUT the rulebreakers/roleplay ruiners who re-join the RP. For police I believe that estimately ATLEAST 3/4 if not half the server is on police duty 24/7! Criminals take up about 1/4, so I don't see why it should be such a hassle for police to take care of us, maybe there'll be more jobs for police, along with more concentrated ROLEPLAY!

Pros:

• More concentrated criminal roleplay
• The server will be more equal, not biased towards police
• Criminals will enjoy the action along with the roleplay

Cons:

• More shootouts, but I think that the police force have more than enough units to take on a group of criminals.
• Moaners - Criminals OR Police who die may moan about lag, and all the usual stuff!

To conclude, I believe that this petition should be passed, mainly for the more concentrated criminal roleplay and the less biasedness towards police, thank you for reading. Every vote counts!

[jimmy_teixeira]

For my personal opinion, I think its stupid.

[Karmps.]

Also one thing, we should disallow Cops who died returning to the same RP scene, criminals cant.Can't see why they are allowed.

[advantage17]

Well, Un-sus'd players helping criminals is a good idea, so it will be more fun for everybody

[aksh]

Also one thing, we should disallow Cops who died returning to the same RP scene, criminals cant.Can't see why they are allowed.

Yeah.

Well, Un-sus'd players helping criminals is a good idea, so it will be more fun for everybody

Yeah it will be more fun.

[Salvatore_Zambino]

Also one thing, we should disallow Cops who died returning to the same RP scene, criminals cant.Can't see why they are allowed.

Agreed, Also they don't have to buy there weapons, they get free deagle! We have to use our own money for weapons and armour!

Well, Un-sus'd players helping criminals is a good idea, so it will be more fun for everybody

Agreed, maybe not un-sused players, but friends of the criminal who is sused!

[Pingster]

Civilians aren't allowed to help police, no reason why they should be allowed to help criminals. If you're completely unrelated to the original scene of suspection or are not in the HQ AND allied/part of the suspected person's group, you are, in roleplay value's eyes, a civilian. Just because you're a good friend of the suspect does not mean there's RP value in you joining the shootout. Besides, that's all it's about, joining a shootout.

You did bring up a nice point though, roleplay.

If it's a roleplay between criminals and cops, you can go ahead and join the roleplay, as long as the joining is also roleplayed (Called the person or someone went to get them), rather than "Yo bro, got your PM, I'm here now".

If you want the roleplay value, roleplay it all, if all you want is a shootout, /goto paruni.

[Chris_Knight]

Civilians can aid friend to escape but they are not allowed to shoot due fact that officers can't be aware who is just simple civilian or who is civilian wanting help his friend. It would bring chaos.Instead with officers you are aware due fact all names and blips are blue,I mean if fireman could aid cops,now you would shake from each fireman while suspected?There is no roleplay reason within it as most backups are called via pm and shootouts have no roleplay within it self,so "increase roleplay" bla bla bla is pure bullshit. Cops would be more trigger to suspect every white blip in near by area to make sure when ever you are aiding criminal or not wich would increase lots of moan as it is already. You look only from good perspectives,now look from badside before even bother make some competition with dis increase rp joke.

[Karmps.]

Agreed, Also they don't have to buy there weapons, they get free deagle! We have to use our own money for weapons and armour!

That's just how it is.Do you see IRL goverment giving criminals weapons?

[saberman]

Also one thing, we should disallow Cops who died returning to the same RP scene, criminals cant.Can't see why they are allowed.

So the criminals can keep on killing men and since all cops died they continue their rampage?

If you're talking about advantages to criminals and advantages to cops you're talking about cop vs. criminals.

And this is a rule, rule's cannot be removed because of community wants it. And yes, this topic it's clearly about cops vs. criminals.

That's just how it is.Do you see IRL goverment giving criminals weapons?

Do you ever see criminals winning in a shootout IRL?

It's not about criminals and cops, it's about RP. Which sadly is forgotten.

[Salvatore_Zambino]

Civilians aren't allowed to help police, no reason why they should be allowed to help criminals. If you're completely unrelated to the original scene of suspection or are not in the HQ AND allied/part of the suspected person's group, you are, in roleplay value's eyes, a civilian. Just because you're a good friend of the suspect does not mean there's RP value in you joining the shootout. Besides, that's all it's about, joining a shootout.

You did bring up a nice point though, roleplay.

If it's a roleplay between criminals and cops, you can go ahead and join the roleplay, as long as the joining is also roleplayed (Called the person or someone went to get them), rather than "Yo bro, got your PM, I'm here now".

If you want the roleplay value, roleplay it all, if all you want is a shootout, /goto paruni.

Im not saying that all I want is a shootout, I want a less biased server which is less biased towards police. I also made a mistake its not meant to be civilians. I'll be modifying that now. Also your point about the "civilians can't help the police" they can EASILY just go into a PD, /duty and BAM! there a police ready to make money from killing/jailing a group of criminals!

So the criminals can keep on killing men and since all cops died they continue their rampage?

If you're talking about advantages to criminals and advantages to cops you're talking about cop vs. criminals.

And this is a rule, rule's cannot be removed because of community wants it. And yes, this topic it's clearly about cops vs. criminals.
Do you ever see criminals winning in a shootout IRL?

It's not about criminals and cops, it's about RP. Which sadly is forgotten.

Agreed at your last point, about the RP.

[saberman]

Agreed at your last point, about the RP.

Then I guess we have nothing more to discuss here.

[Pingster]

If it's about RP, then there's no rule not allowing you to help your friends... in a RP.

Situation: You're chillin in your backyard with your homies, bunch of enemy gang members ride down the street and start an argument with you, it gets loud, cops are called. Cops arrive, suspect people for whatever reason seems appropriate, the RP continues though. One of your gang members calls a friend to pick up some men and come help you, they arrive, join the RP, no guns are fired still. That's within roleplay boundaries and is allowed.

Now, here's another situation:
You're on an NRG against 2 cops, running away after they tried to pull you over, they ram you off the bike, one of them hops on it and drives it off, a shootout happens. You /cb Come help, we're at Unity Station, bunch of unsuspected friends show up and all start shooting at the cops. That doesn't add to roleplay in any way, shape or form, all it adds is to your shootout skills. And when I say shootout, I mean DM. Cause let's face it, who starts a fricking shootout for being pulled over for speeding?

[Reece]

This is a rule, not a law, thus City Hall has no influence on this what so ever. This rule has been the same for years, and it isn't about to change.

[Robert.]

It'll be much more fun when the server is equal with cops and criminals. Therefore, I'am in the favour of passing it!