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Reply #30 on: July 19, 2012, 12:08:41 pm
Shouldn't it be SAPD's job to do that? Other than like I said, driving round in black buffalos with their dark blue names thinking they are something off the Matrix movies..

Didn't you said "Lead by example" in your last reply ? Oh but at the end you are again waiting for someone else.
I still don't see any evidence or report about these "officers driving around in black buffalo shooting everything they see" yet, so I will continue counting your posts as useless moaning.



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Reply #31 on: July 19, 2012, 12:13:54 pm
Didn't you said "Lead by example" in your last reply ? Oh but at the end you are again waiting for someone else.
I still don't see any evidence or report about these "officers driving around in black buffalo shooting everything they see" yet, so I will continue counting your posts as useless moaning.
I rarely go on duty, so I can't lead ARPD officers, I'll start recording some of these reckelss SAPD officers for you shall I? Will be easy... Just keep the camera on and you'll catch one everytime you see an SAPD officer. ;)

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Reply #32 on: July 19, 2012, 12:35:30 pm
I rarely go on duty, so I can't lead ARPD officers, I'll start recording some of these reckelss SAPD officers for you shall I? Will be easy... Just keep the camera on and you'll catch one everytime you see an SAPD officer. ;)

Cophunting is not allowed ;). Going after every 'SAPD Officer' to find minor mistakes and points to report them is not something you'd like being done to you either I believe

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Reply #33 on: July 19, 2012, 12:36:31 pm
Cophunting is not allowed ;). Going after every 'SAPD Officer' to find minor mistakes and points to report them is not something you'd like being done to you either I believe
I don't mean that, I just mean all I see is SAPD in buffalos drive bying people then giving very little to no RP when they pull over and surrender.

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Reply #34 on: July 19, 2012, 12:37:51 pm
I don't mean that, I just mean all I see is SAPD in buffalos drive bying people then giving very little to no RP when they pull over and surrender.

Maybe because most of the people who we go after never RP? Just /hail, then suddently /me reloads his deagle, and boom, we go down.. give us the chance to role-play and you'll see the difference :).

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Reply #35 on: July 19, 2012, 12:41:29 pm
Maybe because most of the people who we go after never RP? Just /hail, then suddently /me reloads his deagle, and boom, we go down.. give us the chance to role-play and you'll see the difference :).
That could be the case, whenever I'm on SAMP Argonath roleplaying I'll try and use /hail instead of /gu, I hate the way /gu freezes you anyway. :razz:

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Reply #36 on: July 19, 2012, 01:10:04 pm
I don't mean that, I just mean all I see is SAPD in buffalos drive bying people then giving very little to no RP when they pull over and surrender.
Stop getting wanted?

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Reply #37 on: July 19, 2012, 03:08:36 pm
Stop getting wanted?
Not specificly me, when I break the law I do it on duty - I roleplay a corrupt officer called Mikal McCorrupt. :cop:
Just had Jcs chasing me round as I smoked weed and beat other officers, however it's mainly LSPD I see in black buffalos though, IMO if SAPD has a monthly paycheck of say, 30k each person they would roleplay more, I know theres alot of good cops who RP in SAPD, but theres also alot of money hungry ones that will only show their roleplay side infront of command staff.

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Reply #38 on: July 19, 2012, 04:02:24 pm
I see no point killing a standing suspect, then you waste all of your time chasing him.





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Reply #39 on: July 19, 2012, 04:13:39 pm
Not specificly me, when I break the law I do it on duty - I roleplay a corrupt officer called Mikal McCorrupt. :cop:
Just had Jcs chasing me round as I smoked weed and beat other officers, however it's mainly LSPD I see in black buffalos though, IMO if SAPD has a monthly paycheck of say, 30k each person they would roleplay more, I know theres alot of good cops who RP in SAPD, but theres also alot of money hungry ones that will only show their roleplay side infront of command staff.
What would they use the money on?

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Reply #40 on: July 19, 2012, 04:26:43 pm
What would they use the money on?
Houses, cars, tunings for their cars, weapons on duty, events such as DD's or roleplay related events with a prize, thats what most people do when they get rich, thats what I did when I was rich.. :lol:
Don't the FBI get payed monthly? <-- Random question, I heard they do quite a while back.

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Reply #41 on: July 19, 2012, 05:31:03 pm
I don't mean that, I just mean all I see is SAPD in buffalos drive bying people then giving very little to no RP when they pull over and surrender.

Happens when you stop the car and get instantly killed with a combat shotgun, eh. Even in those situations, roleplay is attempted, so please do not talk as if all people with a blue name can't roleplay.
If it's a new player, you can't expect him to be instantly the best with our commands, help him along instead of complaining what he does wrong.

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Reply #42 on: July 19, 2012, 08:50:57 pm
Don't the FBI get payed monthly? <-- Random question, I heard they do quite a while back.

If you search hard enough on our forums, you'll get an answer.  ;)

About the topic itself... I think Oliver summed it up quite well...

Don't complain when you get shot because you could've easily saved your skin with a much shorter /gu.



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Reply #43 on: July 20, 2012, 08:25:37 am
Pretty much you have no choice when you become a suspect. Don't wanna give up? You'll be pushed around with firstly pepper spray / batons. Continue to run and attempt to evade? You'll be shot in the head, that is if you wish to be a pain in the ass for the cops.
Wish to give up without any nonsense and hassles? /gu straight away. Don't bring up /hail 2 as a excuse and then run away.. /gu is your command.

SAPD do not get paid unless they complete assignments after a long period or get awards / promotions which grants them a small gift of money.

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driving round in black buffalos with their dark blue names thinking they are something off the Matrix movies..

Like Gandalf said, do not become a criminal, then moan afterwards about the "buffalos" and unfairness.

I agree that in most cop chases when the suspect stops his/her car and is idle inside or out of the car the officers behind him would get out and shoot his/her car or himself to living hell.

Thats why we call this a "Felony Stop." Felony Stop doesn't mean stop your car once the suspect stops his get out of the car before the suspect can and shoot the living hell out of his car so he dies, NO!! It means set a rear perimeter behind the suspects car and instruct him to get out and give up. There is a series of steps though to do this the right way.

Im sure if ARPD officers became more familer with this normal officers operation there will be less killing on idle suspects  :cop:.



Or........ even adding a NEW command to ether both SAPD and ARPD officers or just SAPD officers. A /ta command or something like that where the officer can be armed with a RP Tazzer and when he/she types /ta or selects the weapon and shoots it at a suspect the suspect will automatically get tazzed, and will automatically switch to the /ill command for a brief moment.

I'm up to heir peoples opinions on this especially SAPD command and or SA:MP scripters  :?:

Like i said in the ARPD forum, the idea won't be accepted.. that has been said many times.
We do not need such commands in order to support our own in the law side. Use your pepper spray.

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when the f**k is SAPD ever going to lead by example so that ARPD officers follow them

Perhaps get the facts straight before complaining. Because it is said in the regulations that you respect everyone as much as you respect your superior. You know where to report a FBI Agent or SAPD Officer if they fail to do so. That does not mean that only officers do so.. but overall the regulars in the server have the duty to guide the ARPD Officers as-well..
Accusing a whole organization is just a assumption without evidence or sources.

Simple as it can get.



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Reply #44 on: July 20, 2012, 02:17:56 pm
Perhaps get the facts straight before complaining. Because it is said in the regulations that you respect everyone as much as you respect your superior. You know where to report a FBI Agent or SAPD Officer if they fail to do so. That does not mean that only officers do so.. but overall the regulars in the server have the duty to guide the ARPD Officers as-well..
Accusing a whole organization is just a assumption without evidence or sources.

Simple as it can get.
Sure, regular ARPD officers can guide new officers aswell as SAPD can, or could... But most regulars officers are SAPD so it doesn't make a difference, in my eyes it's SAPDs duty to take on patrols with new players so that the new player can understand how they work and what they do, I saw Jcstodds taking 2 ARPD officers on a patrol yesterday, sure they were probibly drunken cowboys by the end of their patrol but he still offers to take people on patrol, thats how it should be done.

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