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'Ten shot dead' at Batman film premiere in Denver

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Reply #75 on: July 21, 2012, 03:13:40 pm
What about Virginia Tech incident?

Overall at Virginia Tech 49 were shot/injured; in this incident overall 70 were shot/injured.



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Reply #76 on: July 21, 2012, 05:11:38 pm
From a guy who had no trouble offending others by making vague references before "going out".
Idiocy. Violence creates more violence. Enjoy your JTA, Hayom and CNN news. I got out of that topic.
Good that you decided to drag that subject in this thread. Now erase this post too because you can't argument yourself in a different way.

Considering I grew up in the USA and it's basically like my home, they should not be offended
Let me guess, you grew up in Denver? No?

Also Denver is just a part of the USA, I was not referring to the United States as a whole.
It's US soil and you made a cynical reference. People will get offended surely. That's why I got the report. I didn't call you out as a rule breaker or provoker.

Given all this media attention, it will turn out as all other mass murdering cases. He will have a high "IQ", as seen above good achievements in school, good/introspective child and so on. A genius who snapped they'll say. All that sensationalism makes people believe it takes to be a genius to kill people.
That's why we have imitators.

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Reply #77 on: July 21, 2012, 05:38:49 pm
Idiocy. Violence creates more violence. Enjoy your JTA, Hayom and CNN news. I got out of that topic.
Good that you decided to drag that subject in this thread. Now erase this post too because you can't argument yourself in a different way.
The only idiocy here is by you who seems not to accept that asking people not to go in to outlandish theories while indulging in them on another topic is severely hypocritical.
Perhaps "your" news did not yet mention the suicide bomber's identity.
As for not argumenting myself, I think that you are the one not understanding that conspiracy theories do not belong in such threads. If you wish I can make one here and see how you react.

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Reply #78 on: July 21, 2012, 06:20:39 pm
The only idiocy here is by you who seems not to accept that asking people not to go in to outlandish theories while indulging in them on another topic is severely hypocritical.
I see an intro which says "I repeat what I have said before without understanding your sentence."
You took the outlandish route before I did by erasing my post.

Perhaps "your" news did not yet mention the suicide bomber's identity.
Your sources say it was a man with long hair that had a distinctive accent and an American passport. That pretty much narrows it down to Iran, isn't it? I have never excluded a terror attack(any extremist group) as an option but condemned Israel's diplomatic answer to the incident at hand. Seems like you are not aware of how fragile diplomacy is and that it can kill thousands of people within hours, even minutes.

As for not argumenting myself, I think that you are the one not understanding that conspiracy theories do not belong in such threads. If you wish I can make one here and see how you react.
This shows how much you understood my post. Your opinion comes into daylight. Let me elaborate my post because you obviously had a busy time deleting it before viewing it thoroughly. By mentioning the Czech bus incident I pointed out that not all incidents are a fault of terrorist organizations which was mentioned like thunder in your thread. I guess you were the only one who complained about my post meaning you did not properly understand it. Instead of asking me to elaborate it like I asked Gimli, you erased my post under a presumption.
Second point: I never mentioned any conspiracy theories as I strongly oppose these kind of fallacies. I am responsible for what I write, not for what you believe I write.

Seriously think of this post, seriously. If you wish to answer it, don't do it here. Perhaps you should erase it and keep your eyes closed to my explanation under the excuse that I derail the thread? Shake that head of yours.

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Reply #79 on: July 21, 2012, 06:58:10 pm
I see an intro which says "I repeat what I have said before without understanding your sentence."
You took the outlandish route before I did by erasing my post.
Your sources say it was a man with long hair that had a distinctive accent and an American passport. That pretty much narrows it down to Iran, isn't it? I have never excluded a terror attack(any extremist group) as an option but condemned Israel's diplomatic answer to the incident at hand. Seems like you are not aware of how fragile diplomacy is and that it can kill thousands of people within hours, even minutes.
This shows how much you understood my post. Your opinion comes into daylight. Let me elaborate my post because you obviously had a busy time deleting it before viewing it thoroughly. By mentioning the Czech bus incident I pointed out that not all incidents are a fault of terrorist organizations which was mentioned like thunder in your thread. I guess you were the only one who complained about my post meaning you did not properly understand it. Instead of asking me to elaborate it like I asked Gimli, you erased my post under a presumption.
Second point: I never mentioned any conspiracy theories as I strongly oppose these kind of fallacies. I am responsible for what I write, not for what you believe I write.

Seriously think of this post, seriously. If you wish to answer it, don't do it here. Perhaps you should erase it and keep your eyes closed to my explanation under the excuse that I derail the thread? Shake that head of yours.
Stilkl butthurt your posts got removed?
Ok..
My sources say it is an Algerian who lived in Sweden and got close links to Al Qaeda, he was twice arrested and sent back to Sweden in connection with terrorist activity.
"Keeping options open" is not the same as trying to point at a possible Mossad action. Either you say that at the time there is no organizations who claimed something, or you come with evidence. Anything else shows someone who is basicly a racist trying to avoid muslims being a victim. and yes that means YOU.
Your laughable excuses to make it seem like you had a legitimate excuse to post such things are denied.

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Reply #80 on: July 21, 2012, 07:00:47 pm
pls no verbal dm



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Reply #81 on: July 21, 2012, 07:05:29 pm
pls no verbal dm
Sorry but some people can not accept their own blindness.

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Reply #82 on: July 21, 2012, 07:11:33 pm
Stilkl butthurt your posts got removed?
Yes.

My sources say it is an Algerian who lived in Sweden and got close links to Al Qaeda, he was twice arrested and sent back to Sweden in connection with terrorist activity.
OK, so he's definitely an Iranian now, lets react before it's too late. What? Israel says so.

"Keeping options open" is not the same as trying to point at a possible Mossad action.
Point me to where I blamed Superman/Mossad or the 4th dimension Kissinger Illuminati lizard squad.
I'm amused.

Either you say that at the time there is no organizations who claimed something, or you come with evidence. Anything else shows someone who is basicly a racist trying to avoid muslims being a victim. and yes that means YOU.
At the time, there were no evidence nor anyone had any prints or IDs on the possible terrorist. Well, it's logical that Muslims attack only Israelis, right? My first option was a terror attack but I did not want to blame Iran for it like you did. I was reserved for opinion of Bulgarian specialists.

Your laughable excuses to make it seem like you had a legitimate excuse to post such things are denied.
This is because you do not recognize anything in between right and wrong.

You proceed under the assumption that I offered solutions while in fact, I asked questions(in that thread) trying to mediate between various options:
We are making a mistake. Thanks whoever removed my at least constructive question.
I asked a simple one: Can we afford these direct attacks?
The solution was to wait for specialists to determine evidence, run them and then(finally) condemn people.

You just deleted my post and declared me a Muslim supporter. This is exactly why the media can control public opinion.

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Reply #83 on: July 21, 2012, 07:41:07 pm
Yes.
OK, so he's definitely an Iranian now, lets react before it's too late. What? Israel says so.
Point me to where I blamed Superman/Mossad or the 4th dimension Kissinger Illuminati lizard squad.
I'm amused.
At the time, there were no evidence nor anyone had any prints or IDs on the possible terrorist. Well, it's logical that Muslims attack only Israelis, right? My first option was a terror attack but I did not want to blame Iran for it like you did. I was reserved for opinion of Bulgarian specialists.
This is because you do not recognize anything in between right and wrong.

You proceed under the assumption that I offered solutions while in fact, I asked questions(in that thread) trying to mediate between various options:The solution was to wait for specialists to determine evidence, run them and then(finally) condemn people.

You just deleted my post and declared me a Muslim supporter. This is exactly why the media can control public opinion.
Israel blamed Iran, I never did such thing. Perhaps you failed to notice that I only took the original article text to which I linked.
As for your words:
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Only people who assume this is a terrorist attack(assume) is Barak and Netanyahu.
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The forensics team did not even arrive at the scene and everyone is blaming Palestinians and/or other Muslim groups. Why? Because it has the word "bomb" in it?
This will turn into a "Hezbollah this, Mossad that" type of thread, I can assure you.

You refuse to believe a bomb in a bus of Israelis is a terrorist attack? OMG it might have been an accident as its usual to have a bomb in such buses.....
Then you cleverly add the word "Mossad" as to reference to a possible false flag operation.

I did not accuse Palestinians, Mossad, Bulgarians or even Turkey in this thread. The only thing I did was to remove posts that clearly show disrespect for those who died by trying to deny the fact of a terrorist attack taking place by an at that point unknown means or person.

An Algerian is more likely to work for an extremist Muslim organization as for the Mossad, even if both are possible. Just as it is possible the shooter in Aurora works for the CIA in an attempt to destroy the Occupy movement.

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Reply #84 on: July 21, 2012, 07:47:36 pm
The bomb squad have finally managed to get inside.  :conf:



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Reply #85 on: July 21, 2012, 08:10:37 pm
You refuse to believe a bomb in a bus of Israelis is a terrorist attack? OMG it might have been an accident as its usual to have a bomb in such buses.....
The only difference between our opinion is that I did not want to accuse Iran as the media did. You still fail to comprehend my sentences. I still wait for a summary of the incident.

Then you cleverly add the word "Mossad" as to reference to a possible false flag operation.
I added "Hezbollah this, Mossad that" because I originally thought that the topic will turn into an argument. Just look at that Palestine thread, I was talking out of experience. Where do you pull out these conclusions from? I'm not even familiar in depth with the aforementioned organizations.

I did not accuse Palestinians, Mossad, Bulgarians or even Turkey in this thread. The only thing I did was to remove posts that clearly show disrespect for those who died by trying to deny the fact of a terrorist attack taking place by an at that point unknown means or person.
An Algerian is more likely to work for an extremist Muslim organization as for the Mossad, even if both are possible. Just as it is possible the shooter in Aurora works for the CIA in an attempt to destroy the Occupy movement.
I already told you to read my post seriously. There is a significant difference between the victims and the perpetrator.
It's your fault you view me as a disrespecting party. As I said: I am responsible for what I write, not for what you believe I write. You are the one making conspiracies out of it.

The bomb squad have finally managed to get inside.  :conf:
Source?

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Reply #86 on: July 21, 2012, 08:20:58 pm
The only difference between our opinion is that I did not want to accuse Iran as the media did. You still fail to comprehend my sentences. I still wait for a summary of the incident.
Perhaps follow the news as intensively as in this topic and you would know more, including that a possible second terrorist was hunted.
I added "Hezbollah this, Mossad that" because I originally thought that the topic will turn into an argument. Just look at that Palestine thread, I was talking out of experience. Where do you pull out these conclusions from? I'm not even familiar in depth with the aforementioned organizations.
That was the exact thing I decided to prevent by deleing your post, and was the core of my decision to remove it.
I already told you to read my post seriously. There is a significant difference between the victims and the perpetrator.
It's your fault you view me as a disrespecting party. As I said: I am responsible for what I write, not for what you believe I write. You are the one making conspiracies out of it.
And I am responsible for removing anything that I believe to be hurting the topic. Not for what you believe you wrote.
Source?
Those media you refuse to follow.

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Reply #87 on: July 21, 2012, 08:43:37 pm
Perhaps follow the news as intensively as in this topic and you would know more, including that a possible second terrorist was hunted.
I've been watching the news about the Burgas incident because it is of international importance.

That was the exact thing I decided to prevent by deleing your post, and was the core of my decision to remove it.
I can now put myself into your decision and say you reacted well, but throwing around accusations such as "disrespecting the victims" and "denying terrorist attack" at me was totally childish.

This is what the news say about the incident:
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Israel's U.S. Embassy said a day earlier that it had no proof that Iran was the instigator of the attack.
Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said Friday that the attack "does bear the hallmarks of Hezbollah." He refused to elaborate.

About the second perpetrator:
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Bulgarian police are conducting a manhunt for another suspect who is believed to have assisted the terrorist who carried out the attack in Burgas which killed five Israelis and a Bulgarian citizen on Wednesday.
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The report said that due to the suspicion that the suspect may have more explosives, extra security was placed in hotels in Burgas where Israelis are known to be staying.
"May have" and "is believed to" sound like very solid evidence. Until I see this man in cuffs and jailed with proper evidence, I have no reason to believe there is a second offender. You should follow this example unless you were at the scene or had a visual on the second perpetrator/strange behaviour at the airport.

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Reply #88 on: July 21, 2012, 08:52:44 pm
They have began releasing the names and ages of the 12 deceased. Youngest name/age released so far is a 6 year old girl. 

Also they are expected to preform "controlled" blasts on the rigged apartment shortly.

Watch here: http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/cvplive/cvpstream1&hpt=hp_t1#/video/cvplive/cvpstream1



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Reply #89 on: July 21, 2012, 09:30:14 pm
It happens every day in Africa, nobody gives a shit.

Some may take offence to that, in fact I do not appreciate things like this being said.



 


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