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Argonath Democracy Movement - Message for all the Argonathians.

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Reply #75 on: October 12, 2012, 09:32:03 am
We have never supported full democracy. We're proposing a partial democracy, where President and the Prime Minister is still the main and irrefutable leader.

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Reply #76 on: October 12, 2012, 09:51:26 am
Well for a type of Democracy it depends If you want to go American with a House of Representatives or something similar like the English Parliament or Greek House of Plebs, where people elect officials to represent them based on districts (distracts to be made) Also do we want a Roman style counter balance like a Senate? as if we do we already have a supreme court so you could also do a an American Balance of Power. The however another thing to is with a new government do we keep the old constitution or make a new one based on the new system. Also What powers does said people get, Can people vote for things like taxes? national health care? weapon regulations? I dont see the founding of the government a problem but more enforcing and will such government be able to change things and will certain people in said government need something like Manager or Admin rank or make a new class for such people?

Also is Gandalf just going to willingly submit power or must there be a fight/revolution and another thing If there is a player government doesnt that mean things like ARPD/SAPD/FBI will be forced or order to do things because of said government, like if they have wages etc. or want to fire someone without going through ARPD as said government would have the power.



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Reply #77 on: October 12, 2012, 11:43:08 am
will certain people in said government need something like Manager or Admin rank or make a new class for such people?

No. This is purely a roleplay idea.



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Reply #78 on: October 12, 2012, 04:48:08 pm
  I would just say go ingame and do stuff for RP. Make government or whatever, do it ingame.

As the Sheriff, I will be happy to enforce any government issued laws (as I already did when I became mayor of FC :D). And who knows, if you actually make some good RP... might even have a chance of persuading SAPD to try out RPing with government laws (official or not).



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Reply #79 on: October 13, 2012, 12:38:15 am
We have never supported full democracy. We're proposing a partial democracy, where President and the Prime Minister is still the main and irrefutable leader.

In that case, this is not the democracy (if you can call it that) movement that I am looking for. I mean no offense to President Ronnel or Prime Minister RON and I respect their leadership skills, but what kind of democracy allows the permanent instatement of the most important political leaders?



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Reply #80 on: October 13, 2012, 12:21:56 pm
In that case, this is not the democracy (if you can call it that) movement that I am looking for. I mean no offense to President Ronnel or Prime Minister RON and I respect their leadership skills, but what kind of democracy allows the permanent instatement of the most important political leaders?

Constitutional Monarchy's



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Reply #81 on: October 13, 2012, 06:30:24 pm
Constitutional Monarchy's

Is a monarchy a democracy?



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Reply #82 on: October 13, 2012, 06:32:03 pm
It is indeed not...and I would prefer to keep a separation of church and state here if we do this. Sauronism is the truth to all, but not everyone wishes to accept him yet!



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Reply #83 on: October 13, 2012, 08:06:11 pm
Well, what i mean is that we shouldnt go on full democracy instantly, we should first try to see how the partial democracy works.

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Reply #84 on: October 26, 2012, 01:06:08 am
Parliamentary Democracy with a constitutional monarchy, would be my favourite form..



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Reply #85 on: October 26, 2012, 01:03:16 pm
Works nicely in many countries.



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Reply #86 on: October 27, 2012, 03:34:02 am
Parliamentary Democracy with a constitutional monarchy, would be my favourite form..

Sounds just like Sweden, lol... Actually, exactly like Sweden, haha...



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Reply #87 on: October 28, 2012, 02:40:28 am
Sounds just like Sweden, lol... Actually, exactly like Sweden, haha...

And the United Kingdom and Commonwealth Realms. Although Sweden's Sovereign has no power at all, since it got transferred to the Speaker of the house of Parliament while ago. Some constitutional monarchs still have some form of reserve power.



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Reply #88 on: October 30, 2012, 02:18:59 pm
We have never supported full democracy. We're proposing a partial democracy, where President and the Prime Minister is still the main and irrefutable leader.

Where is the proposal? Its 6 pages later and weeks as well. Has anyone even began working togeather on a draft or anything?



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Reply #89 on: October 31, 2012, 02:05:40 pm
We have never supported full democracy. We're proposing a partial democracy, where President and the Prime Minister is still the main and irrefutable leader.

If you say that you are not fit to represent the peoples and their wishes. Your interests are to protect this one way system or us let say two way system. I can't see how their called a President/Prime Minister when they posses absolute power they may as well be dictators.

Wouldn't one rather govern and be a symbolic and ceremonial figure by the affection of his peoples?



 


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