No offense but finally...He was held by the machines and they indeed should have let him go.
No offense but finally...Even after all he did, you may not wish him death. His real punishment is probably yet to begin up there.
True.. you can't really wish him death even if you want to... Except if in war. You could only wish him guidance. But now that he is dead, may he be dealt with accordingly. He was such a killer.Would like to see how would you react when terrorists explode full bus with people.
Would like to see how would you react when terrorists explode full bus with people.
That happens everywhere, not only in Israel, and do the other leaders react like that? Do you think it is perfectly OK to kill many innocents just because they live/are from the same area as 1 terrorist who lost his mind?Say thanks to the terrorists who hide inside the " " " " innocent " " " " population.
Oh and that was not the only case.
Say thanks to the terrorists who hide inside the " " " " innocent " " " " population.
For all muslims responding with offensive remarks;
It is haram to wish people death or curse them even when they're in hell, no matter how much you hate him. I could say a lot of bad stuff about him as well, and lots of fellow muslims would agree with me, but after all it is God who has to punish him, and not us.
So you claim that a population of 4 million is not innocent. May I ask you what did they do? To my knowledge it is just a few individuals doing shit they shouldn't be doing. And we can find same kinds of individuals everywhere.I don't blame them. I blame the silly terrorists who hide inside the innocent population to avoid getting exterminated by Israeli forces. The Palestinian do bad actions and then suffer for their own mistakes.
I don't blame them. I blame the silly terrorists who hide inside the innocent population to avoid getting exterminated by Israeli forces. The Palestinian do bad actions and then suffer for their own mistakes.
Sharon's son Gilad: "He went when he decided to go."Oh my god, that's so fucking funny...
No Comment :rofl:
Just look at what is happening in Palestine! I am not surprised that some lose their minds and do those dumb terrorist strikes. Not that I promote it, hell no I am fully against terrorists. But psychologically, if the situation is as it is... I am not surprised that a few individuals are not able to control themselves.Lose minds because of what? You got Gaza back and you shall be happy with it and stop whining!! Instead of helping the progress of the Palestinian-Israeli peace, you ruin it, simply ruin it by committing various stupid actions. West bank has been not stolen from you, it was returned back to Jewish hands. You should blame the FATAH, Hamas and not Israel who just wants to help you and you deny everything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y58njT2oXfE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osocIWakOp4
I am not saying that Sharon is behind all of this, but you cannot deny the fact that he is one of the people causing this.
Oh my god, that's so f**king funny...Yeah I know, I can't stop laughing till now
Lose minds because of what? You got Gaza back and you shall be happy with it and stop whining!! Instead of helping the progress of the Palestinian-Israeli peace, you ruin it, simply ruin it by committing various stupid actions. West bank has been not stolen from you, it was returned back to Jewish hands. You should blame the FATAH, Hamas and not Israel who just wants to help you and you deny everything.
Israeli does have the right to return aggression and the IDF warns the innocent citizens before it blows up the car/house..
He was held by the machines and they indeed should have let him go.
He was a great leader..
Exactly, we got it BACK. It was ours, and so was the entire country of Israel. And in any case Israelis are still killing innocent Palestinians, but why? And even if they do warn, innocents die. Israelis patrol Palestinian areas and f**king violently handle Palestinians; why? Because they are arab/muslims.We have gone through this before. Palestine never existed.
Afterall if you steal something valuable from another person the other person obviously wants it back. And you give him a small fraction and tell them to shut up and be satisfied. Is this how you want to achieve peace?
Sharon was one of Israel’s legendary politicians and military leaders.He was involved in the murder of thousands of Innocent people specially Muslims. He was not a legend :neutral2:
We have gone through this before. Palestine never existed.Someone is going to question the hell out of this..
He was involved in the murder of thousands of Innocent people specially Muslims. He was not a legend :neutral2:The definition of legend can still apply :) but no matter where you are in the world people will always do that to someone who has done something in their interest. German's have thought the same of Hitler at the time (for the most part).
We have gone through this before. Palestine never existed.has always existed but sadly was/is always occupied by anothers never had the chance to lead themselves alone ...
We have gone through this before. Palestine never existed.WHAT!????
Someone is going to question the hell out of this..
has always existed but sadly was/is always occupied by anothers never had the chance to lead themselves alone ...Which means it never existed. Check history and you will see that all Semite people living there have equal rights to live together in the territory, regardless of which imaginary friend they have or which book of fairy tales they follow.
We have gone through this before. Palestine never existed.I guess we should agree to disagree on this subject. :)
I guess we should agree to disagree on this subject. :)
Check history and you will see that all Semite people living there have equal rights to live together in the territory, regardless of which imaginary friend they have or which book of fairy tales they follow.Semite people are all spreaded in the middle east not only in this land and not all of them are living together or have the right to come and live in each other's countries, but the difference between this land and another semite land, this land never got the chance to lead itselve while another like Lebanon and Syria did get it
Which means it never existed.it definitely existed, when the land was colonized by britain and occupied by ottoman empire didn't it have a name?I think it did have a name, you can say name has changed recently , 66 years ago and I believe thats not long time ago
Semite people are all spreaded in the middle east not only in this land and not all of them are living together or have the right to come and live in each other's countries, but the difference between this land and another semite land, this land never got the chance to lead itselve while another like Lebanon and Syria did get itWhy does the formation of Israel means the land did not get to lead itself?
it definitely existed, when the land was colonized by britain and occupied by ottoman empire didn't it have a name?I think it did have a name, you can say name has changed recently , 66 years ago and I believe thats not long time ago
Also palastine had a clear border on the map and the case of palastine is still fresh and discussed by people so I don't know why you think it never existed.
Why does the formation of Israel means the land did not get to lead itself?because it isn't full democracy here, we don't get same rights and charges that a jewish person gets, I am talking as an arab Christian Orthodox guy
the kingdom of Judea was long before any name that even looks like Palestine was invented. A land having a name does not make a country. My point is that Israel does allow Muslims to live inside its borders in peace, yet many who call themselves Palestines refuse to return that favour to Jewish. Make peace, and stop thinking in terms of religion.
We have gone through this before. Palestine never existed.
Semite people are all spreaded in the middle east not only in this land and not all of them are living together or have the right to come and live in each other's countries, but the difference between this land and another semite land, this land never got the chance to lead itselve while another like Lebanon and Syria did get it
it definitely existed, when the land was colonized by britain and occupied by ottoman empire didn't it have a name?I think it did have a name, you can say name has changed recently , 66 years ago and I believe thats not long time ago
Also palastine had a clear border on the map and the case of palastine is still fresh and discussed by people so I don't know why you think it never existed.
The propensity of people to turn any topic that has "Israel" or "Palestine" into a long, drawn-out history discussion with insults has always amused me.didn't insult anyone though >.>
Do you know guys a woman from Palestine i know her she died before month she died in age for like 95 or more years old, and the Jewish who made her to leave from her land to Egypt my country...... sorry Gandalf for saying that you don't know history well...I know history better than you. Just check the post of Flaken and you will realize why it is that 40% or Israeli people speak Russian.
Israel is far from holy in their actions as well, but their problem is clear. How can you negotiate with someone who wants to kill you.
We have gone through this before. Palestine never existed.LOL what?
Why does the formation of Israel means the land did not get to lead itself?I am really disappointed at you. The known books of history said that the UK sent the most of jews in the world after WW2 to Palestine to live there. There was a deal of 50% of land of Palestinians and the other half is for the Jews, but the Muslims didn't accept that, because it is originally their own land from back of history. So it started a "small" war to enforce the Jewish in the land and the prime minister (or w/e) of UK in that time finished his deal with USA and Jews and gave them with force the land, if you say that they gave a favor, you're like saying f*ck you to the whole people of Islam and Arabs.
the kingdom of Judea was long before any name that even looks like Palestine was invented. A land having a name does not make a country. My point is that Israel does allow Muslims to live inside its borders in peace, yet many who call themselves Palestines refuse to return that favour to Jewish. Make peace, and stop thinking in terms of religion.
I know history better than you.I know about THIS history better than you here.
I know history better than you. Just check the post of Flaken and you will realize why it is that 40% or Israeli people speak Russian.
Also I am aware that in West Bank and Gaza modern shopping centers and hospitals exist, they are not the wasteland that some people would like us to believe.
What I am tired of is that the Palestines are not considering to co-exist and keep trying to play the victim. Had they been more active in 1948, they would not have to sit whinging today.
Israel is far from holy in their actions as well, but their problem is clear. How can you negotiate with someone who wants to kill you.
How about I steal this community and see how peaceful of a negotiater you'll be? Because I don't see you sharing kisses and flowers with people DDOSing your servers..Erm, u mad, bro?
I know history better than you. Just check the post of Flaken and you will realize why it is that 40% or Israeli people speak Russian.Yeah in Gaza they do have money and hospitals and banks but none of those came from israel most of them came from allies ...
Also I am aware that in West Bank and Gaza modern shopping centers and hospitals exist, they are not the wasteland that some people would like us to believe.
What I am tired of is that the Palestines are not considering to co-exist and keep trying to play the victim. Had they been more active in 1948, they would not have to sit whinging today.
Israel is far from holy in their actions as well, but their problem is clear. How can you negotiate with someone who wants to kill you.
I didn't know the British used to control Israel, or what is now Israel... :eek:Now you do. And not only him who is mad here...Erm, u mad, bro?
How about I steal this community and see how peaceful of a negotiater you'll be? Because I don't see you sharing kisses and flowers with people DDOSing your servers..
thats surprising mikal considering u have such a hard on for ur countryDid you not see the word great, in Great Britain? :uhm:
Erm, u mad, bro?Well don't be mad and just accept that Palestine never existed then? :gand:
Now you do. And not only him who is mad here...
Did you not see the word great, in Great Britain? :uhm:It's wrong and disrespectful to the real history that most are fairing to show it.
Well don't be mad and just accept that Palestine never existed then? :gand:
It's wrong and disrespectful to the real history that most are fairing to show it.And it's wrong and disrespectful to historical records to make vulnerable minded people believe something existed when it did not. :janek:
And it's wrong and disrespectful to historical records to make vulnerable minded people believe something existed when it did not. :janek:It did exist and still but just stolen, i hope this topic will be locked as soon as possible before a war starts here.
It did exist and still but just stolen, i hope this topic will be locked as soon as possible before a war starts here.I know it's too damn hard to understand that Palestine never, but never existed. It was just a name for the land which was held by Jews long long long time before the Arabs. We are the true owners of this land, and for me and most of my nation, Palestine means nothing as Israel means nothing for YOU. But we don't really care since you can't do much about it, you can't get Israel back since we are almost the strongest army in the world, and you can state wrong but you know that's true. Our leaders are true and the ones who really will fight and fought for our lands and freedom, like Ariel Sharon who did significant job and overcomed plenty of wars but in 2005 he committed the worst mistake ever, to return Gush Katif to the murderers, for what he is hated now but I like him as a leader, who dedicated is life for his nation, unlike the Palestinian who ruin the peace and tend to blow busses and then whine like pigs without presuming that it will not help them at all. The peace agreements are bullshit and it is impossible to maintain any peace with Palestine, because they don't know the facts and the real history, which belongs to the jewish people and not them.
LOL what?Yeah, lol!! Get the facts straight upon your face! There's no Palestine at all. Forget about it.
I understood now, why hetlar used to kill jews.Wow you make me sad with your tiny intellect. I am not going even going to argue with you since I know you are some another brainwashed 14 year old.
Really you are stronger than us ? oh yeah, we just pwned you easily in 1973.
Moreover, we are 83 million unlike you 7m, if every egyptian or arabian do a quite small piss of you, you will sink actually.
And you call yourself stronger xD
I know it's too damn hard to understand that Palestine never, but never existed. It was just a name for the land which was held by Jews long long long time before the Arabs. We are the true owners of this land, and for me and most of my nation, Palestine means nothing as Israel means nothing for YOU. But we don't really care since you can't do much about it, you can't get Israel back since we are almost the strongest army in the world, and you can state wrong but you know that's true. Our leaders are true and the ones who really will fight and fought for our lands and freedom, like Ariel Sharon who did significant job and overcomed plenty of wars but in 2005 he committed the worst mistake ever, to return Gush Katif to the murderers, for what he is hated now but I like him as a leader, who dedicated is life for his nation, unlike the Palestinian who ruin the peace and tend to blow busses and then whine like pigs without presuming that it will not help them at all. The peace agreements are bullshit and it is impossible to maintain any peace with Palestine, because they don't know the facts and the real history, which belongs to the jewish people and not them.You just got false informations, i am sorry that your life is a lie. It's pain in the ass to say that Israel stole the land back after WW2.
Do you know that in the middle of the funeral 2 missiles were targeted into the crowd after many of Israeli requests to stop the fire for at-least for few hours while the funeral was held? After that, how can you call the Palestinian people as human? Yes, I know you hate him, but give him respect as a human, he "returned" you your lands.
Palestine never existed and will never exist, it was just name for the lands during the British occupation in Israel. Palestine might mean for you a lot, but for me and my nation it means nothing. You - are - whiners. Make up your mind, ask your great arab brothers and consent with Israel and accept it existence and hopefully there will be progress and you will raise a country. We, the jewish nation passed many of history events and after all we are still here, due to our unification and belief that one day Israel will be returned to us, and we got it back.
Yeah, lol!! Get the facts straight upon your face! There's no Palestine at all. Forget about it.
Israel is not pure, but atleast we know the mistakes and tend to improve them, but you, seen to never understand what you commit and will never raise a country unless your leaders will get to see the real world.
You just got false informations, i am sorry that your life is a lie. It's pain in the ass to say that Israel stole the land back after WW2.Sadly, that's the only thing you can state over and over. It's an infinite loop.
i think its better to lock this topicIt's not about beliefs, it's about what some people cannot get inside their mind.
then everyone will keep their beliefs to himself
@Mark_CSo you say we should return you something which never belonged to you?
I guess you do the same atm, Ex- '' We used to live in this land since a very loooooong time''
I can't blame you at all, We should blame your folk who mislead you.
Although you are Israeli-an, You are defending your country.
Lets change this discussion into Civilized one.Look in Quran. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Could you please give me a single line from a book proves that this land is owned by Jews since a long time ? Note: You should put the date also., Although you won't find.
Look in Quran. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Quran says that Jews showed up in Egypt, not Palestine.
Quran says that Jews showed up in Egypt, not Palestine.I don't mean to offend you (or anyone else) but you shouldn't always take these religious books for the truth. Not that I am saying that you are wrong in what you have said.
I don't mean to offend you (or anyone else) but you shouldn't always take these religious books for the truth. Not that I am saying that you are wrong in what you have said.Not only quran which said that. :)
Actually most of the Sunni muslims are leaving around the persian gulf, such as Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and so on, as I said you can count on half of the ppl from Egypt.You're matching between sonna and shiaa.
Btw, if you hate anyone (it doesnt matter who is him, or how many are them) you can't say it in a public and international community, it may start a bad thing
I prefer to ignore barbarous people who can not have a conversation without insulting, I can not blame you, that's what you learnt and what they are teaching us in middle east Schools n Universities...Sorry but i am not from middle east.
Sorry but i am not from middle east.Not you bro...
I prefer to ignore barbarous people who can not have a conversation without insulting, I can not blame you, that's what you learnt and what they are teaching us in middle east Schools n Universities...So I'm guessing you're the only wise one in a world with 300 million people in it? Speaking falsities with a matter of conviction does not earn you the respect of others, so don't expect me to speak charming words to you when all you're doing is generalizing a bullshit idea that has no sense of truth in it.
Look in Quran. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The Jewish were in Egypt then they escaped to Jerusalem, then the Babylons came there and destroyed Jerusalem,and took the Jewish slaves......then they separated around the world.....the Quran said said that they were in Egypt then they escaped to Jerusalem but God made them without land because the god sent them many messengers but they didn't believe.......Khm told us how the Jewish came to Palestine of the first 20th century,but United kingdom helped Jewish because Jewish helped them in the World War 1,2 by money and men.... This is the real historySo Khm is the god?
I don't know anything about Israel nor PalestineI rest my case. Have a nice day.
So Khm is the god?Nope i am not. Show some respect to the others please.
Nope i am not. Show some respect to the others please.That's true that Jews helped Brits and Brits helped jews, while the Palestinian only kept on striking and only hurt them self and tried to prevent the jewish aliyah. Now look who suffers..
That's true that Jews helped Brits and Brits helped jews, while the Palestinian only kept on striking and only hurt them self and tried to prevent the jewish aliyah. Now look who suffers..Oh yeah, look who is suffering. Someone's learning a lie about the real history, what a real shame.
Oh yeah, look who is suffering. Someone's learning a lie about the real history, what a real shame.Not only history I believe, His country as well
I understood now, why hetlar used to kill jews.Yolo- you do not only live once, you respawn.
Really you are stronger than us ? oh yeah, we just pwned you easily in 1973.
Moreover, we are 83 million unlike you 7m, if every egyptian or arabian do a quite short piss next to you, All jews will sink actually.
And you call yourself stronger xD
Although you are Israeli-an, You are defending your country.Israeli*
No one can deny the fact that there is nothing called Israel.One example of many manipulations you are doing daily.
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Yolo- you do not only live once, you respawn.I should laugh right ?
all that can i say { sharon is muderer }that means?
that means?That means that he killed shit loads of innocents.
A good country how it build by over blood of Palestinian and ArabsUhm, no thanks, we are independent, never gonna happen. stop this LOLcomments please...... wtf?!!?!!!?!?!
then don't talk about it has strong Military or economy
Uhm, no thanks, we are independent, never gonna happen. stop this LOLcomments please...... wtf?!!?!!!?!?!Sadly, it's the truth.
Sadly, it's the truth.Nothing personal ofcourse elvel-7mooow/e. but they should stop with manipulations.
Muslims and Arabs against of what's the Israel's army doing not the JewishREALLY?
that means?That Sharon was responsible for lots of innocent killings, indeed.
Fact nr:54961596 Jewish was actually the Islam itselfJudaism is older than Islam so I don't know how you can claim it's Islam. To my understanding much of the Islamic faith is based of of Christian teaching.
REALLY?
israel's army is 95% jewish and 5% who like duruz, who choose and dedicate to country where they live.
Why did you occupy Sinai btw ? Tell me a proper reason this time.Or Lebanon
Judaism is older than Islam so I don't know how you can claim it's Islam. To my understanding much of the Islamic faith is based of of Christian teaching.Compare the 3 holy books and you will find the Jew is more close to Islam's rules and traditions that the Christs.
Moreover, Both talked about MohamedCorrect.
btw; Why did you occupy Sinai ? Tell me a proper reason this time.
Or Lebanon
Won the war, like pros. this is even basic logic on GTASA with the area you take from ballas or in some strategy games.Gave it back? It's their own land.....
Say thanks we gave it back ( you don't care anyway, you from alexandria or cairo, sinai is like disconnected from you ).
and no need for bolt, that won't help anything.
Judaism, Christianity, Islam, the abrahamic religions from oldest to youngest.You just defined what i said.
Ironically, all three have peace in their teachings, yet have been the sources of a conflict between peoples who are not very far in blood.
Won the war, like pros.Won ? See what happen to you at 1973 war, We could take Sinai back, Moreover we could take captives from your side after the war.
Won ? See what happen to you at 1973 war, We could take Sinai back, Moreover we could take captives from your side after the war then We let them go home for their mothers.Anyway no need for any declaring a new war, since we actually want the peace as *they* also want *peace*.
PS. You got P W N E D ask your father about this war.
since we actually want the peace as *they* also want *peace*.
Say thanks we gave it back ( you don't care anyway, you from alexandria or cairo, sinai is like disconnected from you ).Excuse me, you kidding me?!?! :neutral2:
and no need for bolt, that won't help anything.
Fact nr:54961596 Jewish was actually the Islam itself we say it in arabic التوØÂيد.Judaism was there long before Islam. Who is talking here about stealing something and trying to make it their own?
A question to you, Ronnel: Who brought that religion?
btw; Why did you occupy Sinai ? Tell me a proper reason this time.Strategic importance to protect against possible attacks.
you can't get Israel back since we are almost the strongest army in the world, and you can state wrong but you know that's true.Pretty sure it's thanks to the west Israel isn't invaded..
Judaism, Christianity, Islam, the abrahamic religions from oldest to youngest.And yet that didn't stop this Muslim guy I used to work with preaching how Islam was the first and true religion.. :lol:
Judaism was there long before Islam. Who is talking here about stealing something and trying to make it their own?Where did Judaism show up at first?
Islam is not a follow-up to Christian religion, more of a parallel development as the christians moved more towards Europe where the obtained power. Later religion that were basod on the orthodox Christianity are Catholicism, Protestantism and Jehovah's witnesses.
Protestants and Jehovah's are younger as Islam, their claim to be the youngest is false.
As for the comment about Mohamed, please show me where in the Torah he is mentioned.
Strategic importance to protect against possible attacks.Let's go on with this. You will take Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt for the protection against the attacks? Logic.
Strategic importance to protect against possible attacks.This still isn't a proper reason.
Fact nr1: The Jewish religion is much older as the Muslim one. The religion was based around the area where Israel was founded in 1948.
BULLSHIT!
A word of warning, this topic isn't the place to be insulting religion, race etc.
Please keep the topic with decent realms of politics and religions.
http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/fastfacts.htm
BULLSHIT!, Islam was founded before any other religion was. To be more precise... people misunderstood the mesage of jesus christ and moses. Please state one verse of Bible or Torah in which either one of them states that worship me or i am the god and if you will be succcesful in finding one ill be ready to convert
Where did Judaism show up at first?Does that matter for proof of age? We know exactly when Islam was founded, more or less when christianity appeared and that Judaism existed at the time both were founded. We also know when the Catholic Church broke away from the Orthodox, and when the Protestant movement started, as well as when Jehovah's witness started.
Let's go on with this. You will take Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt for the protection against the attacks? Logic.first of all, I am not Israel, so do not use ýou'.
There is no Jesus Christ in the Torah, of you do not know that it is time you educate yourself.
BULLSHIT!, Islam was founded before any other religion was. To be more precise... people misunderstood the mesage of jesus christ and moses. Please state one verse of Bible or Torah in which either one of them states that worship me or i am the god and if you will be succcesful in finding one ill be ready to convert
Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister. 1 John 4:20-21 NIV
Instead of asking queations and trying to prove "your" God is better, how about educating yourself by reading about all religions, and questioning yourself from where your belief comes.Ok this is.. It's that. It's what most of people don't understand. The point.
There is no Jesus Christ in the Torah, of you do not know that it is time you educate yourself.How if I already read and learned about allof the religions (except hindus) You also didn't answer my question; where did yhe Judaism show up?
Instead of asking queations and trying to prove "your" God is better, how about educating yourself by reading about all religions, and questioning yourself from where your belief comes.
How if I already read and learned about allof the religions (except hindus) You also didn't answer my question; where did yhe Judaism show up?If you did you would not make rather silly statements.
If you did you would not make rather silly statements.This proves that one of us got wrong informations and only the time will discover who was right.
The first references of the existence of Judaism were made by the Egyptians. As fas as I know the oldest archeological discoveries linked directly ro Judaism are from around 1000BCE.
This proves that one of us got wrong informations and only the time will discover who was right.Becausethey did not live there. :lol:
Exactly, so why Israël didn't take Egypt instead of Palestine?
Becausethey did not live there. :lol:But the Judaism started there and of course they lived thrre for good. Why not taking the original land then? As far as I know they choose a strategic place to control the traffic of Asia, Africa, Europe and of course petrol.
But the Judaism started there and of course they lived thrre for good. Why not taking the original land then? As far as I know they choose a strategic place to control the traffic of Asia, Africa, Europe and of course petrol.Nobody said it started there.
If you did you would not make rather silly statements.
The first references of the existence of Judaism were made by the Egyptians. As fas as I know the oldest archeological discoveries linked directly ro Judaism are from around 1000BCE.
Holy book of Judaand Quran said that.....andDid I say they were made as living in Egypt? The answer is NO.
Did I say they were made as living in Egypt? The answer is NO.Not sure though but he is called Ahmet.
The Egyptians recorded war with the Kingdom of Judea which was precisely where Israel is today.
There is no record of a large amount of slaves leaving or any other thing that refers to the story of Moses.
As Egyptians were vere precise in record keeping, such event would certainly have been recorded.
As for books you wish to name Holy, they are mostly mythology, which means that while they may refer to actual events and persons, the stories are not by any means to be seen as an accurate historical description.
Edit: Where is Mohamed named in the Torah?
Not sure though but he is called Ahmet.So you use a different name and say it is the person that you call by a different name.
This proves that one of us got wrong informations and only the time will discover who was right.Because Palestine is the best land for Jewish because the Britain wanted them to stay there and they would help them to stay.
Exactly, so why Israël didn't take Egypt instead of Palestine?
So you use a different name and say it is the person that you call by a different name.Everyone know that Mohamed is also called Ahmed. He also has other different "names" like Mustafa, Amin etc...
Now the thing is that if God knows all, he also knows how a person will be named in the future, and using a different name is there for clear it is not the same person.
And if you are not sure, how can you make such claim? If you make a claim you will have to back it up with facts, if you are not sure of something better look it up first.
Edit: Where is Mohamed named in the Torah?As far as I know, Mohamed (صلى الله عليه و سلم) isn't mentioned by name in the Torah, although, he's being referred to as a false prophet in some phrases.
Everyone know that Mohamed is also called Ahmed. He also has other different "names" like Mustafa, Amin etc...Sure.. you use 100 names for one person so that it will always fit. Sorry, no way to convince me by that.
How would remember a thing with every detail, I am not the smartest guy in the world.
As far as I know, Mohamed (صلى الله عليه و سلم) isn't mentioned by name in the Torah, although, he's being referred to as a false prophet in some phrases.I know that is what Muslims believe, and this forum is not really the correct place to go in to it very deeply as you are mostly young people that would be too easily influenced. There for all I can say is research for yourself how Islam came to be, and do not use Muslim sources only, as they have invested interest in twisting things in favour of Islam.
Nevertheless, there are many other Islamic prophets named in the Torah, and in fact; The Torah was brought down from Mount Sinai by Mousa (عليه السلام), which is also known as Moses.
What Khm meant to say is that the Torah is a 'corruption' of the Qur'an, as the people back then used to falsify editions of the book with self-written phrases. At least, this is what the Muslims believe.
Sure.. you use 100 names for one person so that it will always fit. Sorry, no way to convince me by that.That's true. Both religions anyway have almost the same rules. Maybe if I was older would make you believe what I've said. The only thing that I want to do is stopping this discussion only if one of us have very strong proves. But I may show you that torah have got many mistakes and confuse-able.
I also do not remember eveyrthing, but when needed I know where to find it.
Before making any kind of claim, be sure to be able to back it up by facts, and that includes claim of having researched somehting.
When I make research, I do not just follow my own ideas or sources, but always try to find as much original material as possible, and look at opinions that are contrary to what I think is right, with their arguments. That way it is possible to build a founded opinion and defend it in a debate.
I know that as I am much older it is easier for me, there for I hope you will use it to leanr how to do things.
My intention is that people research for themselves and make their own conclusions based on what they feel are reliable facts.
In most cases we might never agree, but that is not something which is bad, as everyone has the right to their own ideas and beliefs.
While I may seem to attack religion sometimes, I respect anyone who has belief in their heart and uses it for being a good person.
The main point of religion has always been about respect and treating others as you wish to be treated yourself. Do that, and if there is an afterlife you will be able to defend your actions.
Sure.. you use 100 names for one person so that it will always fit. Sorry, no way to convince me by that.
Maybe if I was older would make you believe what I've said.Don't even try. Gandalf is relentless. :lol:
Because Palestine is the best land for Jewish because the Britain wanted them to stay there and they would help them to stay.It's not the best land for the Jewish, but it's their lands. There's no other owners except the jewish, no romes and no palestinian and surely not the british. Britain didn't have such interest to the jews like to the arabs, the prefered the arabs because of the egyptian canal (Suetz), for neft and support from arab states who were with hitler while Britain fought against the nazis. Do you know about the "white book of McDonald"? Do you know that the anti zionist British ministers legislate laws to prevent the jewish aliyah and help the arabs raise the palestinian country? The british didn't need the jewish support until hitler was coming through and almost got to Israel and then the British asked the jews to induct into their army. They knew the jewish will support them anyways so they didn't realy care. But what is for sure, Israel has gotten it's goal and returned our beloved land back.
It's not the best land for the Jewish, but it's their lands. There's no other owners except the jewish, no romes and no palestinian and surely not the british. Britain didn't have such interest to the jews like to the arabs, the prefered the arabs because of the egyptian canal (Suetz), for neft and support from arab states who were with hitler while Britain fought against the nazis. Do you know about the "white book of McDonald"? Do you know that the anti zionist British ministers legislate laws to prevent the jewish aliyah and help the arabs raise the palestinian country? The british didn't need the jewish support until hitler was coming through and almost got to Israel and then the British asked the jews to induct into their army. They knew the jewish will support them anyways so they didn't realy care. But what is for sure, Israel has gotten it's goal and returned our beloved land back.
Before the war.
Arabs were never with Hitler in the killing spree. The arabs were stolen by the strongest countries such as Tunisia and France. How would they even drop an opinion in that time?
Before the war.You're totally wrong, my brother. Islam promotes peace not killing everyone.
That's true. Both religions anyway have almost the same rules. Maybe if I was older would make you believe what I've said. The only thing that I want to do is stopping this discussion only if one of us have very strong proves. But I may show you that torah have got many mistakes and confuse-able.The problem with your age is not that you can not convince me, but that I have a strong advantage over you due to my experience.
There is no Jesus Christ in the Torah, of you do not know that it is time you educate yourself.I am not trying to prove my "God" right, if you read the "Actual" Torah Jesus Christ is mentioned but with not the name of Jesus, as far as all the other religion goes Mohammad is also mentioned in EACH and every holy book but with different referenaces(even in the vedah). I don't mean any disrespect to ANY religion that has/was founded, I respect all of them and love them equally as i love my religion. However i don't want to talk about religion's as its not going to lead us anywhere but just argument's that's never going to end.
Instead of asking queations and trying to prove "your" God is better, how about educating yourself by reading about all religions, and questioning yourself from where your belief comes.
http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/fastfacts.htmIs that taken from Bible and/or Torah?, I dont think so, read what i posted.
http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/fastfacts.htm
That's one fact. When I will come back from school I will provide you plenty of other resources to prove you else. I can't even understand how you can say that.
You should all be politicians, you seem to have mastered the skill of discussing things but not reaching a solution or agreement! :gand:Lol
The problem with your age is not that you can not convince me, but that I have a strong advantage over you due to my experience.My parents gave me the full freedom to choose anything but with my responsibilities of course. No one will change my mind about islam since I searched and reached somethings that I do not know how to explain and put them here due to my age and my english skills.
I have debated the subject with people of my age, and I have done so with some of my friends who are Hadji and Iman.
For me it would not feel right if I would make you doubt, as it would make your parents feel you should not spend time on the internet.
Please understand that it is out of respect for your parents, not because I would not wish to listen to you and present my arguments.
My parents gave me the full freedom to choose anythingDoubt it.
I am not trying to prove my "God" right, if you read the "Actual" Torah Jesus Christ is mentioned but with not the name of Jesus, as far as all the other religion goes Mohammad is also mentioned in EACH and every holy book but with different referenaces(even in the vedah). I don't mean any disrespect to ANY religion that has/was founded, I respect all of them and love them equally as i love my religion. However i don't want to talk about religion's as its not going to lead us anywhere but just argument's that's never going to end.
My parents gave me the full freedom to choose anything but with my responsibilities of course. No one will change my mind about islam since I searched and reached somethings that I do not know how to explain and put them here due to my age and my english skills.So if you tell your parents you have become atheist they will give you their blessing?
If that were true, why would the Jewish disagree?Thats exactly what a muslim IRL told me! Which doesn't make sense since Islam came after Christianity and such.
I recently had a discussion with a Muslim who tried to tell me that every God is simply another manifestation of the Muslim God.
So if you tell your parents you have become atheist they will give you their blessing?Or they'd get rid of him.. :rolleyes:
So if you tell your parents you have become atheist they will give you their blessing?They let me do. It's my life and my responsibility, I should take care about it.
Israel is conquering, which goes against each and every rule stated within the UN, UNESCO, and other international organisations. Whoever lived there first, or whatever religious bullshit is spread about Judea and whatnot in this thread, does not and will never justify murder, bombings or terrorism on innocents in my eyes. There were casualties on both sides undeniably, and there is no such thing as wrong or right nowadays either, but to justify Israel's actions by 'whoever lived there first' is very narrow minded. Think of it like this: you're a happily living your life at your home when all of a sudden the police come knocking on your door, saying that your house now belongs to another family (or atleast a part of it) with the reason that the house used to belong to a great great great great great great granddad. On top of that, the family is expanding its territory in your house, up until the point that you have nothing left except your basement. Now, is this not enough reason for the claimed 'Palestinian agression'? Up until the point that there starts a continues argument and fighting between your family and the family that took your room and house and is now watching your TV and jerking off to your porn on your PC. Now tell me again how 5 million light years back some Jew pissed on a rock in the middle of the desert, and now justifies the act of unlawful expansion of territory and discriminating ethnic minorities in present day Israel, breaching every international peace treaty.Conquering what? something that belonged to them long time ago, even before the existence of Muslim and Mohammed and was confiscated by other nation and now we just return it after we gained so much power and motivation? How can you compare Palestinian crimes to Israeli's one which are not done on purpose but for safety matters? Israel Defense Force is to defend and not to conquer or raise conflicts. It's you who raise the conflicts, you support HAMAS and can't reach a hand and help Egypt to restrain them. I see no point in your statement which says Israeli confiscate arab houses. What are you speaking about? I haven't seen Israeli police doing such an action, but I have seen and heard about legal actions against the beduins in the Negev who build illegal settlements against the laws and without any permits. Israel got all of the authorization to destruct such settlements. And if you will direct now about the Israeli settlements in West Bank, so I tell you West Bank was also our :). Your statement reminds me of the nazis, who confiscated Jewish properties and passed them to the German citizens (Aryanization). Now explain me how Israel breaches every international peace treaty while the Palestinian people, them self rend it? Israel provides Sector Gaza enormous amount of supplies and while transferring them to Gaza, waiting with hundreds of loaded trucks and waiting hours upon hours to get them into Gaza, we get protests, burst of hatred and missiles attack. Where is the solidarity? John Carry arrives to Israel uncountable times a year to help you to reach an agreement, so in future you will be able to raise your own country. Palestinian don't posses conscience as from what it looks nowadays.
If that's true, why would they kill children and rape the women in their own houses? IF that's true where was the people who were living there? From where did they come ha?Typical. Anyone who is wrong is declared to be enemy, as doing wrong within one's own ranks is deemed impossible.
Don't worry there are spys and betrayers in FATH and HAMAS who work for Israël.
Typical. Anyone who is wrong is declared to be enemy, as doing wrong within one's own ranks is deemed impossible.If he didn't disrespect the Islam nothing will happen.
What is the punishment in your country for someone who declares no longer to follow the Islam?
While you (purposedly?) ignore facts of Israel's breach of human rights laws in several sectors, you only focus on what Palestinians do, in order to be able to lay your finger and say "IT'S SELF DEFENCE GUYS!! GUYS!". You really expect taking land of others for the sole purpose of religion and not expect any backfire?It's you who seem to be narrow-minded by my side.
If that were true, why would the Jewish disagree?Not saying that it was Mohammed, Jewish people disagree because they always had and you might know the reason. I am not going into detail about this. Also never said Mohammed was a god, so no.. they weren't waiting for Mohammed according to me. Jesus and Moses both at different time period arrived to spread the message of Islam, Jewish and Christian people both misunderstood them too badly(talking about each individual).
I recently had a discussion with a Muslim who tried to tell me that every God is simply another manifestation of the Muslim God.
Unfortunately he was unfamiliar with Bacchus, the god alcoholic beverages.
Taking the arrival of an announced prophet from a religion and labeling Mohamed on that to make a match is a misleading and false practice. As you may know the natives in South America had a belief that bearded gods would come from the East, and considered Cortez to be the fulfillment. According to you they were waiting for Mohamed ;)
Thats exactly what a muslim IRL told me! Which doesn't make sense since Islam came after Christianity and such.Nope, Islam was their since the beginning. Jesus christ came to earth to spread the message of islam but people who followed him claimed him as a Son of God(or God) after he died which is false. Jesus never claimed him self Son of God nor him being a god. Same with Mosses. Mohammed isn't a god, he was the last messenger of god who was also spreading Islam. Please, i am not claiming that my religion is the best, do what you feel. I respect all religion, and i have no intention to disrespect you or your religion.
If that's true, why would they kill children and rape the women in their own houses? IF that's true where was the people who were living there? From where did they come ha?
Don't worry there are spys and betrayers in FATH and HAMAS who work for Israël.
We are in 2014...I thought that people would know recognizing between some editied video and a real one, yet it still though.. well, you can still know what have manipulation in it and what doesn't... those kind of videos are 99.9% of manipulation and 0.1% of footage, quite clear why you support and believe them now.Well okay if you want to go that direction:
http://www.mpacuk.org/sites/default/files/palestine_land_map.jpg
>self defence
>b-but muh religion
http://www.palestineremembered.com/images/dailymail_humanshield.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1_7wWcosRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZqd0NYEE8I
These are just from searching "Israel war" on youtube. If you really want enlightement, you may look further yourself. There are some interesting documentaries too, should be scattered all around the internet. :gand:
Glad I'm Russian and not living in R.F.Edo lives in Belgium, lol.
Edo lives in Belgium, lol.just saying, trust me I remember where people join from. point is, some countries also manipulate against israel, well that will turn against them sometime.
Not saying that it was Mohammed, Jewish people disagree because they always had and you might know the reason. I am not going into detail about this. Also never said Mohammed was a god, so no.. they weren't waiting for Mohammed according to me. Jesus and Moses both at different time period arrived to spread the message of Islam, Jewish and Christian people both misunderstood them too badly(talking about each individual).Nope, Islam was their since the beginning. Jesus christ came to earth to spread the message of islam but people who followed him claimed him as a Son of God(or God) after he died which is false. Jesus never claimed him self Son of God nor him being a god. Same with Mosses. Mohammed isn't a god, he was the last messenger of god who was also spreading Islam. Please, i am not claiming that my religion is the best, do what you feel. I respect all religion, and i have no intention to disrespect you or your religion.Islam started with the teachings of Mohamed. It makes no sense that anyone as powerful as God would need to make several attempts to get it right. To say that they continue the earlier teachings is like a new server on SAMOP telling they continue the work of Argonath.
just saying, trust me I remember where people join from.Trust me, Edo lives in Belgium. :)
Islam started with the teachings of Mohamed.Nope :)
Karl Marx: "Religion is the opiate of the masses."Right. An agreement will never be made until such a time when both sides pull their heads out of their religious books and get around the table.
now stop blablabla about religions and talk real.
Please lock this topic it is really leading to something taht is off the topic, I stopped reading this since page 7 i think :P
Nope :)That is what Mohamed said. Before him nobody ever mentioned Islam in any book.
In fact, Mohamed was the last prophet sent to spread the Islam over the people, as he succeeded.
Islam began with our very first prophet; Adam.
That is what Mohamed said. Before him nobody ever mentioned Islam in any book.Monotheism.
That is what Mohamed said. Before him nobody ever mentioned Islam in any book.Books were rare in the time of the prophet Mohamed (pbuh), let alone before his time :lol:
Monotheism.Monotheism is not Islam.
Books were rare in the time of the prophet Mohamed (pbuh), let alone before his time :lol:Rare yes, but still they existed.
The story between GOD , Adam and Eva answers your question, have you ever read about it?
Besides how can you claim Islam is the younger religion and at the same time claim it was there from the start?
If it was there it is not younger or older as any other religion that shares the same story. If it is younger, it was not there at the time.
Rare yes, but still they existed.I never claimed it was the younger religion, this is what lots of ignorant people think, try googling 'when did islam start' and see how many people think it began with Mohamed (pbuh).
Besides how can you claim Islam is the younger religion and at the same time claim it was there from the start?
If it was there it is not younger or older as any other religion that shares the same story. If it is younger, it was not there at the time.
The Spread of Islam began when prophet Muhammad started preaching the revelation he claimed to have received from God at the age of 40. During his lifetime the Muslim ummah was established in Arabia by way of their conversion or allegiance to Islam. Muslim conquests in the first centuries after Muhammad's death led to the creation of caliphates, political and spiritual entities, where only believers of Abrahamic religions were allowed to keep their faith, albeit with higher taxes and other limitations, and conversion to Islam was encouraged through multiple means. These early conquests, and later through contact with Muslim traders and Ottoman Empire conquests, resulted in the spread of Islam from Mecca to the Atlantic Ocean in the west, and eastward to the Pacific Ocean, and the creation of a Muslim world.
Alhamdulillah
The story between GOD , Adam and Eva answers your question, have you ever read about it?Eve*.
The story between GOD , Adam and Eva answers your question, have you ever read about it?Of course. I do hope you know that this has to be a metaphore, as there is something named evolution.
I never claimed it was the younger religion, this is what lots of ignorant people think, try googling 'when did islam start' and see how many people think it began with Mohamed (pbuh).In fact those people are correct. While the stories he based it upon may have been older (better a good steal as creating a bad thing) there is no historic reference to the name before his appearance in history.
An example:Do you know what the whisper game proves? And if so, how you you campare that?
And indeed, many religions oftenly share the same stories, but through all the translations and misconceptions, it seems different. Pretty much the same as the whisper game, lol.
I never claimed it was the younger religion, this is what lots of ignorant people think, try googling 'when did islam start' and see how many people think it began with Mohamed (pbuh).So from who did the Islam start if not from Mohammed?
Monotheism is not Islam.Monotheism is islam, judaism, christs and every religion which returns to ONE God (Allah) they are just in different names, so they are originally the same. :)
So from who did the Islam start if not from Mohammed?Adam.
Adam.I've heard about the theory that Jews and arabs are cousins.
Monotheism is islam, judaism, christs and every religion which returns to ONE God (Allah) they are just in different names, so they are originally the same. :)Satanism is monotheistic. Satan is God?
I've heard about the theory that Jews and arabs are cousins.And that's true.
Satanism is monotheistic. Satan is God?Nope. Monotheism have got their prophets and holy books (like torah and quran) and they refer to Allah.
Of course. I do hope you know that this has to be a metaphore, as there is something named evolution.I do hope you know that this has to be an opinion, as there is an expression which says "to each their own".
I've heard about the theory that Jews and arabs are cousins.Not a theory. In origin both are semitic tribes that lived in the desert.
And that's true.Nope. Monotheism have got their prophets and holy books (like torah and quran) and they refer to Allah.Judaism and Christianity do not refer to Allah. Satanism has a single god.
I do hope you know that this has to be an opinion, as there is an expression which says "to each their own".No it is not an opinion, it is a fact. If you wish to try, prove your story with scientific evidence.
Judaism and Christianity do not refer to Allah. Satanism has a single god.Every religion refer to one god which is allah, many people know that not just muslim people, but they just dont want admit that there is one god, but sadly they get scared or something, or they dont want to use their brain to think.
There for my stance that monotheism is not equal to Islam is correct, and your expression that it is has been proven false.
Every religion refer to one god which is allah, many people know that not just muslim people, but they just dont want admit that there is one god, but sadly they get scared or something, or they dont want to use their brain to think.Lol are you a troll?
No offence.
Lol are you a troll?Lol, do I look like one??
Islam started with the teachings of Mohamed. It makes no sense that anyone as powerful as God would need to make several attempts to get it right. To say that they continue the earlier teachings is like a new server on SAMOP telling they continue the work of Argonath.Read the whole text, picking "Son of God" will not make sense as it will be Out of Context. God sent Prophets and Messengers to every generation to guide mankind to right path. God sent multiple prophets to communicate his message, different prophets were sent with different messages at different time periods and the last message was delivered by Mohammed(Qu'ran).God was teaching us basics by sending prophets the came before Mohammed. You don't go straight to advance without knowing the basics.
Read John:16 where Jesus mentions he is the Son of God.
No it is not an opinion, it is a fact. If you wish to try, prove your story with scientific evidence.If I do wish to prove it, I'd be trying to find proof to the existence of God. That translates to doubt, something which doesn't sit rather well with me, as my belief in His existence is undoubted. I was merely saying that you should not state your opinions as facts when so many other people do not share them with you and may also be offended.
You just have to think, is a stone or a human being crated this whole world?Neither.. wtf...
Religion: Stories in a book for the light minded to believe. :janek:Do you just come every 3 pages and type out one half-assed attempt at being funny/interesting/agreeable?
That is what Mohamed said. Before him nobody ever mentioned Islam in any book.All who believed any religion before the Islam he is (Muslim),it's in the Quran.
Religion: Stories in a book for the light minded to believe. :janek:Get back to the place you came from and stop your indirect disrespect to the religions it's not a cirque for such guys like you.
Religion: Stories in a book for the light minded to believe. :janek:I think that you are trying to act like a smart ass and a funny guy, this discussion won't change anything.
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rulebreaker:lol:
Lol are you a troll?
Do you just come every 3 pages and type out one half-assed attempt at being funny/interesting/agreeable?No man, I come every 3 and a half pages to post some common sense. :)
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All who believed any religion before the Islam he is (Muslim),it's in the Quran.That doesn't make sense.
this discussion won't change anything.Then why are you arguing in it?
At least there's hope in the peace talks mediated on by the US between Israel and Palestine. Hopefully some agreement can be sought, bringing an end to this indefinitely *hopefully* which will bring stability to the region and allow both countries to progress alongside each other in harmony. Let's hope.I hope soo too.
I hope soo too.
But let me tell you this, the peace will never be done, and if Palestine will be free a country again, I will tell you this friend, it will be after a blood bath:hah:
Palestine will be free a country againIt isn't a country and never has been.
It isn't a country and never has been.Mahn, from where did you get such an informations? If it is not a country, mind telling me why it is written in history books? My friend, you need to know what you are saying, it is a country, used to be free.
Then why are you arguing in it?Because I am telling the things I know about my religion, unlike you posting in here trying to be funny or something.
@taseen11:
Allah is not another name of God, Allah is in Arabic language and it means God.
@taseen11:You are funny, because as I know there is like other 99 names, I don't know if they are translated :hah:
Allah is not another name of God, Allah is in Arabic language and it means God.
books?Yup, and books are always right, especially if it's a religious book.
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You are funny, because as I know there is like other 99 names, I don't know if they are translated :hah:Asma allah alhosna.
There is uncountable names other than god.
Mahn, from where did you get such an informations? If it is not a country, mind telling me why it is written in history books? My friend, you need to know what you are saying, it is a country, used to be free.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country-name_etymologiesI know that but, I just forgot :(
Palestine is a state but not recognized as a country.
Rest in peace Ariel Sharon.AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAÀAAAAAHHHHAAA. I can't stop laughing :rofl:
If the Palestinians had used non-violent protest tactics from the very beginning, like Gandhi did, they would already have their own state or equal rights in Israel. Their use of terrorism cedes the moral high ground to the Israelis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country-name_etymologiesLegally of course it's not. USA, UK and Israël won't let it be.
Palestine is a state but not recognized as a country.
As long as the United States exists, Palestine will not be free.Then why is the US chairing peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine? Because the government has realised that they got nowhere with the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and that it is much easier, with less human cost, to allow countries to talk and sort out their problems. Without the US' involvement we would not even be at the stage where officials from either side are represented to talk.
Then why is the US chairing peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine? Because the government has realised that they got nowhere with the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and that it is much easier, with less human cost, to allow countries to talk and sort out their problems. Without the US' involvement we would not even be at the stage where officials from either side are represented to talk.
They seem to care more about Israels future rather than their own.When the outcome of peace negotiations can have such a big impact on the whole world and could possibly bring an end to lives continually being lost, I would care too.
Every religion refer to one god which is allah, many people know that not just muslim people, but they just dont want admit that there is one god, but sadly they get scared or something, or they dont want to use their brain to think.Satan is God, Bacchus te God of alcoholic drinks is Allah?
No offence.
Read the whole text, picking "Son of God" will not make sense as it will be Out of Context. God sent Prophets and Messengers to every generation to guide mankind to right path. God sent multiple prophets to communicate his message, different prophets were sent with different messages at different time periods and the last message was delivered by Mohammed(Qu'ran).God was teaching us basics by sending prophets the came before Mohammed. You don't go straight to advance without knowing the basics.You challenged to show where JEsus says he is the Son of God, and even told you would be ready to convert.
If I do wish to prove it, I'd be trying to find proof to the existence of God. That translates to doubt, something which doesn't sit rather well with me, as my belief in His existence is undoubted. I was merely saying that you should not state your opinions as facts when so many other people do not share them with you and may also be offended.If the truth offends you, so be it. And you might want to try to prove the existence of God, as I know that you can not.
Neither.. wtf...
I feel that I am talking with my dad. :lol:No.. You talk with the owner and many other players of Argonath RPG.
No.. You talk with the owner and many other players of Argonath RPG.What I meant is that I see Gandalf in the rank of my dad. He is talking and communicating with US children as some old guy in his age with some other things that he share with my father. He should be glad that he is in this rate of respect.
Satan is God, Bacchus te God of alcoholic drinks is Allah?I did not understanding anything from what u just said, but I don't blame you, because you will never know who is the real and only god TILL you read Quran.
I did not understanding anything from what u just said, but I don't blame you, because you will never know who is the real and only god TILL you read Quran.Well Said Waka, Well said
Tomer, ''talk real'' is annoying. Please, change your words sometimes or you really talk real!lmao
Talk real and direct.I agree with Tomer, if you're going to use a religious book in all your arguments then there's no point in arguing because said religious books have no proof that any of the stuff inside happend and was just written by 1 person having funny dreams all them years ago before being used to collude the masses, why not argue without religion being involved and you'll find that you actually get somewhere and can reach agreements, how is this too hard to understand?
Let that place near Israel solve it's own issues and stop getting into their business by threatening Israel in many ways that you think no one notices and no point enlightening anyone how much your religion is whatever better or bigger etc, than others.. it's just a religion, yes, atheism will only work.
You may claim this is a provocation, I don't really care... this is not the topic to blablabla about any religion.. it is about Ariel Sharon's death.. if you simply don't see the positive things he has done in his career, do not even reply.
I agree with Tomer, if you're going to use a religious book in all your arguments then there's no point in arguing because said religious books have no proof that any of the stuff inside happend and was just written by 1 person having funny dreams all them years ago before being used to collude the masses, why not argue without religion being involved and you'll find that you actually get somewhere and can reach agreements, how is this too hard to understand?Because religious book is the only legitimate reason to argue about territories in Israel. Quran states something different from the Torah.
F**k, glad I'm an atheist.
Because religious book is the only legitimate reason to argue about territories in Israel. Quran states something different from the Torah.So both sides will continue to argue because their books written by some nobody many years ago implies that they should? Wow, I can't think of a better reason.
I do hope you know that this has to be an opinion, as there is an expression which says "to each their own".Evolution is not an opinion.
I was merely saying that you should not state your opinions as factsFacts as facts*.
when so many other people do not share them with you and may also be offended.Maybe get over it?
>fedora picGood reply, how long did it take you to form such a compelling argument?
>second picthat fucking sonic shirt
"I killed half the Jews and left the other half for you to know why I killed the first"Wow, arn't you a pathetic little twat.
- Adolf Hitler
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This is what you get when people are kept stupid and do not lean the facts but coloured history.
Fact nr1: The Jewish religion is much older as the Muslim one. The religion was based around the area where Israel was founded in 1948.
Fact nr2: There are Egyptian and Roman sources that prove the Jewish lived there long before anyone invented the name Palestine.
Fact nr 3: The name Palestine was invented by the Romans, who were not very keen on the rebellious Jewish in the region, especially the group that followed what they told was a rabbi named Joshua.
Fact nr 4: Ever since the Roman times and before, there has never been a country called Palestine that was independent. There for it never existed as country.
Fact nr 5: In 1948 an agreement was made by the United Nations for a division of the land in which there was place for an independent Arab country. The Arabs refused to accept the draft.
Fact nr 6: While the terrirory seemed infertile, nobody cared who lived there.
Nobody "stole" land, some greedy asses can not bear that others worked and got rewards of building a good country.
Now you have two options: make the peace you want by accepting what you have and working to make something from it, or cry a river why everyone is so mean to you when you trhow stones and rockets.
F**k, glad I'm an atheist.I feel you bro, I see shit going down here and people want to fucking stab each other.. Good thing I don't need to care. I believe in the flying spaghetti monster (http://www.venganza.org/) and nobody can take it away from me.
Warnings are now being handed out.I didn't get warned, I got moderated. :)
I didn't get warned, I got moderated. :)
I've given plenty of warnings nicely in this topic. Warnings are now being handed out.Just lock it...
Stop trying to trigger a rulebreak response out of each other. Stick to the discussion without needing to insult any sort of religion.
Just lock it...Why? Because there are some people who doesn't know how to control theirselves of trying to be funny and trying to attract attention? Just ignore them like a simple dog on the street. They will keep doing that until they reach their goals of "fun", that's the life mate.
You still have to be warned in order to receive that.Right, so I'm the only one that got 'warned'...
Just lock it...Dude, if you got nothing to say, don't post here. It was a nice discussion until some moron, ie: Omar Aly came here with his racist statements.
Dude, if you got nothing to say, don't post here. It was a nice discussion until some moron, ie: Omar Aly came here with his racist statements.
ie: Omar Aly came here with his racist statements.That was actually a proof which shows that the Islam isn't hating and/or killing jewish people. Wonder what you call keep killing innocent 11 years old kid.
I didn't post a single word of my own here, I just quoted what someone said without even giving my opinion about the quote and it was removed, so no need to flame...The fact that you posted it without commenting means you support the quote.
That was actually a proof which shows that the Islam isn't hating and/or killing jewish people. Wonder what you call keep killing innocent 11 years old kid.It wasn't proof of anything.
Right, so I'm the only one that got 'warned'...
That was actually a proof which shows that the Islam isn't hating and/or killing jewish people. Wonder what you call keep killing innocent 11 years old kid.How is it related?
It's not the best land for the Jewish, but it's their lands. There's no other owners except the jewish, no romes and no palestinian and surely not the british. Britain didn't have such interest to the jews like to the arabs, the prefered the arabs because of the egyptian canal (Suetz), for neft and support from arab states who were with hitler while Britain fought against the nazis. Do you know about the "white book of McDonald"? Do you know that the anti zionist British ministers legislate laws to prevent the jewish aliyah and help the arabs raise the palestinian country? The british didn't need the jewish support until hitler was coming through and almost got to Israel and then the British asked the jews to induct into their army. They knew the jewish will support them anyways so they didn't realy care. But what is for sure, Israel has gotten it's goal and returned our beloved land back.....
[font=times new romanWonder what you call keep killing innocent 11 years old kid.HAVE YOU CONFIRMED IT by yourself?! I'm sure you didn't and you won't, this will be impossible, but I already can give you an answer...MANIPULATION.. you are already affected by it, sadly.
HAVE YOU CONFIRMED IT by yourself?! I'm sure you didn't and you won't, this will be impossible, but I already can give you an answer...MANIPULATION.. you are already affected by it, sadly.
Evolution is not an opinion.
Facts as facts*.
Viruses evolve, Fact. :DOur karma lasted for 2000 years until we received Israel back. :hah:
Known as viral evolution.
And I don't want to get into political debate, but Israel are nothing but bad news and karma will get them eventually.
Proud zionist?, you and your fellow zionists will not conquer the world lol, f**k your New World Order.Yep, proud zionist and proud to show it, and your middle ages stereotypes are irrelevant now.
This is not aimed of the people of Israel but more the Politicals Powers, same in my country, I hate the Rothschilds and government with a passion. Though the people in general are all good people. It's just the fact he has 'Proud Zionist', to me that's like saying proud Satanist.
[Quran 29:46] Do not argue with the people of the scripture (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) except in the nicest possible manner - unless they transgress - and say, "We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you, and our god and your god is one and the same; to Him we are submitters."
[Quran 4:148] GOD does not like the utterance of bad language, unless one is treated with gross injustice. GOD is Hearer, Knower.
[Quran 41:34] Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend
[Quran 29:46] Do not argue with the people of the scripture (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) except in the nicest possible manner - unless they transgress - and say, "We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you, and our god and your god is one and the same; to Him we are submitters."
[Quran 4:148] GOD does not like the utterance of bad language, unless one is treated with gross injustice. GOD is Hearer, Knower.
[Quran 41:34] Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend
That's rules for the Islamic religion, Christians only have 10 rules :rofl:
I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other God before me.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing in heaven above, or things which are in the earth beneath.
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Mosiah
Thou shalt not covet.
each religion has it's own rules which do not always cope with the laws of a country which results in arguments about which rules are more important.
It's all very confusing if you think about it. I personally only follow regional, national and international laws. Atheist for life.
That's rules for the Islamic religion, Christians only have 10 rules :rofl:indoubtedly.
I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other God before me.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing in heaven above, or things which are in the earth beneath.
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Mosiah
Thou shalt not covet.
each religion has it's own rules which do not always cope with the laws of a country which results in arguments about which rules are more important.
It's all very confusing if you think about it. I personally only follow regional, national and international laws. Atheist for life.
You know the masonics/Rothschilds love religions as it makes people OBEY thinking they are getting heavenly luxuries.I am not jew, live in Israel and a zionist and wasn't even born in Israel. Don't tell me now that i'm brainwashed. It's all about your own perspective on the debates, that's from my side.
It's all a mind control game I don't see myself better than you as an atheist. but it's just half of you are muslims because that's the way you've been brought up/brainwashed same with the jews. Kew im sure if you was born in Israel you'd be a jew, same as I was brought up a Catholic but i grew out of it :D
You know the masonics/Rothschilds love religions as it makes people OBEY thinking they are getting heavenly luxuries.
It's all a mind control game I don't see myself better than you as an atheist. but it's just half of you are muslims because that's the way you've been brought up/brainwashed same with the jews. Kew im sure if you was born in Israel you'd be a jew, same as I was brought up a Catholic but i grew out of it :D
I'm sure if your parents you seem so proud of was studying/converted to Christianity you would of plodded along too.
Yes it's personal as you started opening up about your personal Life? I haven't insulted you once. You didn't want them in the convo? then keep them out of it. Why islam?, Don't get your hopes up with those virgins ya know, there's none waiting :D. If it keeps u happy while you're alive then im happy :D
ouch no sex before marriage, sounds like a healthy relationship, bet testosterone levels are crazy :DWhat....?
Peace kew :janek:
What you having trouble understanding there khm ?:DThat's just confuse-able and funny in the same time... Since it is already explain in science.... Not even in religions.....
He was also warned verbally.Ok so why was he warned verbally but I was warned through the punishment system? What makes him different to me when it comes to breaking rules? If anything he should have received a more severe punishment than me as he offended masses of people, where as I only offended him in defense of the masses he offended.
>Picture<I always thought Rothschild was an American bank..
I think they all are logical. :PIsn't there a part of the Quran that says to slaughter all non-believers? Very logical.
What you having trouble understanding there khm ?:D
That's just confuse-able and funny in the same time... Since it is already explain in science.... Not even in religions.....Can you two try to make some sense please? :cop:
ouch no sex before marriage, sounds like a healthy relationship, bet testosterone levels are crazy :DIn Islam we care about the purity, Most of women whom did 'ex before marriage are Bishs now.
Peace kew :janek:
In Islam we care about the purity, Most of women whom did 'ex before marriage are Bishs now.Sorry how many wives can you have in Islamic countries? Purity.. :lol:
Unlike Islam, Muslim woman is a veritable example for the purity and the honor.
You can keep your women pure because they will bleed all over you, filthy :DI said Rothschild bank not Rockerfeller. :rolleyes:
and Mikal, the Rockefellers are the Americans :)
Isn't there a part of the Quran that says to slaughter all non-believers? Very logical.
Isn't there a part of the Quran that says to slaughter all non-believers? Very logical.No, there isn't.
No, there isn't.
About killing in Islam, just a curiousity: If you kill an innocent person, you have killed all the people.
ouch no sex before marriage, sounds like a healthy relationship, bet testosterone levels are crazy :D
Peace kew :janek:
Unlike you, we do not appreciate strangers having sex with our wives, sisters and moms.But commit genocide, terror acts and hate, you do.
Unlike you, we do not appreciate strangers having sex with our wives, sisters and moms.
You are again one of those people taking text out of its context. First of all, note that the quran was revealed on the time of Muhammad, a time when muslims were a minority and when they were tortured by others. So that verse came as a command to them. Secondly, we clearly Ã…re not allowed To kill if not in war, and we have To respect everyone. Yes, everyone, no matter what.Right, then that explains why Islam is one of the only religions committing constant acts of terrorism.
I'd suggest you people to take a look at liveleak.com and see what religion is all about in the real world ...Do we need to watch video's to know that certain religions are all about murder and hate?
Unlike you, we do not appreciate strangers having sex with our wives, sisters and moms.But you don't mind marrying your cousins and such?
No offence, but now imagine the Palestinians giving care to a hurt Israeli. I don't think so.
But commit genocide, terror acts and hate, you do.
Unlike you, we do not appreciate strangers having sex with our wives, sisters and moms.
So you expect muslims to leave a 4 year old untreated.... Nice logic there.Sorry almost have never seen Christ/Jew terrorists..
Welcome TO Israel.
Terrorists are found in all ethnic groups, believe it or not even Jews have terrorists. Muslims have it too.. they are breaking the rules. But fortunately they are a small minority.
Exactly.
Sorry almost have never seen Christ/Jew terrorists..I did in Tunisia.
But fortunately they are a small minority.Actually in Islam terrorists are a large minority..
Sorry almost have never seen Christ/Jew terrorists..Same.
I did in Tunisia.Jew?
Jews, Christians, non religious more and more.L O L
Jew?So you've came to the point you're trying to convince us there are no jewish terrorists?
L O LLaugh as much as you can, you will see who would laugh the last. ;)
So you've came to the point you're trying to convince us there are no jewish terrorists?Yes!!! Show me cases! Want me to show cases of Muslim terrorism?
I rest my case.
Yes!!! Show me cases! Want me to show cases of Muslim terrorism?Look up the Sabra and Shatila massacre, the subject of this very topic, Ariel Sharon, has had responsibility in this event.
Yes!!! Show me cases! Want me to show cases of Muslim terrorism?Want show you? There is no Muslim terrorist, those who are saying that they are Muslims and doing such things aren't actually Muslims. Anyone act terrorist in Islam should be punished by cutting his hand or his head.
Laugh as much as you can, you will see who would laugh the last. ;)Please stop with these threatening messages, i.g. what u just said + u also said there will be lots of blood.
Want show you? There is no Muslim terrorist, those who are saying that they are Muslims and doing such things aren't actually Muslims. Anyone act terrorist in Islam should be punished by cutting his hand or his head.
Laugh as much as you can, you will see who would laugh the last. ;)-Removed- Devin
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-Removed- DevinYe ye continue please. They are claiming that they are Muslims but that is actually isn't allowed in Islam's rules. It's like a dmer in Argonath that should be banned nothing else.
-Removed- Devin
He died and you guys are argueing for no reason,get some life.
-Removed- DevinYou are a vile, pathetic excuse for a human being. You aim to be provoked then moan when provoked, and then you do the exact same thing. Innocent people are dying and you're rooting for the bastard that's causing it.
-Removed- DevinSaid the person whose country is the cause of all the f**ked-up bullshit that's happening in the Arab world since 1948.
If you're not interested in this conversation you should "get some life" and do something you're interested in.GO SEE IT YOURSELF AND STOP WATCHING SORIALISTIC VIDEOS which only manipulate you. No one cares what's going on there, I tell you, it will continue and yes many more will die, yes I support more videos, to see more death of arabs in that place near israel, go go manipulation!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEe88NpsfCM
This video explains how muslims are like soo terrorists and violient, shows palestines armed soilders pulling israelian unarmed women from their hair.. Aren't we soo terrorists?
GO SEE IT YOURSELF AND STOP WATCHING SORIALISTIC VIDEOS which only manipulate you. No one cares what's going on there, I tell you, it will continue and yes many more will die, yes I support more videos, to see more death of arabs in that place near israel, go go manipulation!!So you're saying that those are some random fake videos?
- No racism, blatant disrespect or flaming, direct or indirect
Mark if you are unable to have a civilized conversation I will gladly show you the door.There's no reason to show me the door. I could suggest you to show the door to Omar Aly fellow.
Disrespecting religions is not welcome in any way or form.
Want show you? There is no Muslim terrorist, those who are saying that they are Muslims and doing such things aren't actually Muslims. Anyone act terrorist in Islam should be punished by cutting his hand or his head.Right, ok.
If you're not interested in this conversation you should "get some life" and do something you're interested in.I'm sure Israel could make a video called Criminal Palestine vs Israel too.. :balance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEe88NpsfCM
So you're saying that those are some random fake videos?So you're saying you believe everything you see/hear online?
Sorry almost have never seen Christ/Jew terrorists..
There's no reason to show me the door. I could suggest you to show the door to Omar Aly fellow.
There's no reason to show me the door. I could suggest you to show the door to Omar Aly fellow.Since when was quoting the Qur'an uncivilized?
Right, then that explains why Islam is one of the only religions committing constant acts of terrorism.
There's no reason to show me the door. I could suggest you to show the door to Omar Aly fellow.Omar Aly did nothing, we never demote ourselves to such attitudes, like yours, towards any other religion or guy. Some people just state some bullshits if they fail to find any solution of a conversation that they do, they are just trying to attract attention for nothing.
Right, then that explains why Islam is one of the only religions committing constant acts of terrorism.You just admitted that Islam is not the only religion with terrorists. Finally you come around.
Ye ye continue please. They are claiming that they are Muslims but that is actually isn't allowed in Islam's rules. It's like a dmer in Argonath that should be banned nothing else.
Another thing, why Al-Quadea attacks the Muslims if they are also Muslims, isn't that like stupid? The terrorism doesn't have a religion nor a normal rule.
Here is a video of a terrorism in Tunisian's Revolution. Try to tell me he is Muslim too....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gts5u9vN0VE
Ey, I feel offended :war:
So you're saying that those are some random fake videos?:app: :app: :app: :app: :app: :app: Ofcourse!
Can't understand why this is still unlocked topic3rd time..
Can't understand why this is still unlocked topic
:app: :app: :app: :app: :app: :app: Ofcourse!And if you post a video it's the truth? Logic.
They are just posted to see how much they are in need of "help" and how much they "hurt" and whatsoever, just manipulated. post real, stop editing, that will never happen from their side. so keep believing edited videos. and congratulations to Israel in those videos, you see how much we actually care here about security of citizens by responding to attacks coming from that place near Israel, or gaza.
That is not Islam's fault. The terrorists are stupid and they are disobeying Islam. Makes them disbelievers. :/Well it is some of the people in high positions of Islam that encourage terrorist acts.
Just like if a Christian kills, he just broke a rule of Christianity.
You just admitted that Islam is not the only religion with terrorists. Finally you come around.No Islam isn't the only religion with terrorists, but Islam does have the largest number of terrorists is the world, and I'd like you to show me a another religion which actually committed an act of terror against the general public this year, or in recent history, all I ever see on the news is Islamic groups blowing each other or the general public up and it pisses me off, why should people who want no part in religion have to suffer because one religion wants to rule the world? I can't remember where I saw this, but I think it was on BBC news, there was a survey in a Birmingham college, 80% of the Muslim pupils there think it is ok to kill for Allah, no matter who they are killing, no offence but I'd rather not have such a religion in my country.
Can't understand why this is still unlocked topicCan't understand why people like you always want topics locked.
Well it is some of the people in high positions of Islam that encourage terrorist acts.Ask another religion pupils now and compare.
No Islam isn't the only religion with terrorists, but Islam does have the largest number of terrorists is the world, and I'd like you to show me a another religion which actually committed an act of terror against the general public this year, or in recent history, all I ever see on the news is Islamic groups blowing each other or the general public up and it pisses me off, why should people who want no part in religion have to suffer because one religion wants to rule the world? I can't remember where I saw this, but I think it was on BBC news, there was a survey in a Birmingham college, 80% of the Muslim pupils there think it is ok to kill for Allah, no matter who they are killing, no offence but I'd rather not have such a religion in my country.
isn't it obvious?
Can't understand why people like you always want topics locked.
3rd time..4th :app:
:app:
isn't it obvious?No it isnt.
You can't hold a normal discussion.
You're just waiting for an opportunity to be able to insult each others... 4th :app:
I've had many chances to insult people here.. Have I?
This is a normal discussion, well it was until you came along.If you call this a "normal discussion", I am trying to find out how heated discussions look like depends on your claims
If you call this a "normal discussion", I am trying to find out how heated discussions look like depends on your claimsClearly you are someone that gets offended easily and do not belong on the internet..
Insulting isn't just about curses, it can also be presented as a simple word that could be count as racism... and insult certain kind of people. and If you weren't able to find insults in the discussion, then I am sure you already hurted many people's feelings in your life without noticing
Clearly you are someone that gets offended easily and do not belong on the internet..
if israel didnt exist there would be peace in the middle eastPREACH IT.
if israel didnt exist there would be peace in the middle eastYeh but why shouldn't it exist there?
if israel didnt exist there would be peace in the middle eastIf only white people existed there would not be any racism.
If only white people existed there would not be any racism.black*
white ppl started racism afaik :)don't be racist
Clearly you are someone that gets offended easily and do not belong on the internet..Clearly you're someone who doesn't respect forum rules.
Clearly you are someone that gets offended easily and do not belong on the internet..
don't be racistWhy saying white people instead of black then? Isn't that racist too? Remember Africa is the oldest place in the world by the history so black people supposed to be the first/original humans in the history. Isn't that true?
Why saying white people instead of black then? Isn't that racist too? Remember Africa is the oldest place in the world by the history so black people supposed to be the first/original humans in the history. Isn't that true?Acknowledging a race isn't racist, that's like saying black to a black guy is racist, no, if you're trying to ignore the fact that he is black is racism, as by ignoring you're thinking something bad would happen if you called him black, and no that isn't true ikhm, there is no way to prove that, it's like proving the big bang theory.. there is no way of knowing that. There could be so many factors that would affect their DNA tests and BS.. there is no way of knowing who was first. But if you go through a history book it does say that first intelligent human was born in north africa/south europe, than expanded towards main land which was Europe, that is why africa and europe have the longest history.. but that can also be contradicted.. We don't know what happened to Native Americans, we didn't come there and ask them about their culture, people went there and murdered the fucks, they were cold hearted. We don't know who was first as there is no proof for half of the world, because the intelligent human born in europe went and fucking killed people who he didn't know. There is no way of being certain, if you go with the written books, think about how much people lie now.. so yeah.. calling someone black isn't racist
Clearly you're someone who doesn't respect forum rules.I know the rules but I also cannot be silenced with threats of forum punishments, free speech.
and I am not going to give you lessons about internet just keep in mind that If you break forum rules you may find yourself banned
Clearly you are aomeone that bullshits a lot, if you think internet is a place to disrespect people and insult their believes then you shouldn't even be given the privilege to use internet and live in a cave with apes that think in a similar matter.Insulting other people? Oh hang on what was that you posted about Hitler and the Jews?
Why saying white people instead of black then? Isn't that racist too? Remember Africa is the oldest place in the world by the history so black people supposed to be the first/original humans in the history. Isn't that true?So you support the fact of human evolution? I thought Muslims didn't believe in that.
Clearly you're someone who doesn't respect forum rules.
and I am not going to give you lessons about internet just keep in mind that If you break forum rules you may find yourself banned
If you expect to use the internet and have everyone being cheerful and never disrespecting each other, you clearly live in a dream world. Everyone being cheerful about everything and agreeing with everyones opinions/beliefs is not reality.And you clearly have no idea what I meant.
And you clearly have no idea what I meant.Well it seems everything can be considered breaking rules these days, you can't tell a joke without being called a troll, not that anyone knows the exact meaning of that word.
I am not here to nominate myself for the next beauty pageant.
I do love discussions alot, respecting the forum rules and asking you to follow them doesn't make me "living in a dream"...
Why saying white people instead of black then? Isn't that racist too?(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m96qikFvMa1qlydob.jpg)
you can't tell a joke without being called a trollWell when you come into a heated discussion and tell a joke, don't expect kind replies.
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m96qikFvMa1qlydob.jpg)My exact thoughts when I read it too...
Well when you come into a heated discussion and tell a joke, don't expect kind replies.I didn't tell a joke, I was using it as an example from SA:MP Argonaths chat, you tell a joke, you get called a troll, you discuss something, you get called disrespectful.
I do love discussions alot, respecting the forum rules and asking you to follow them doesn't make me "living in a dream"...Mikal is able to contribute what he thinks to this discussion, just as you have done. He is entitled to have a religion or to not have one. You may not agree with what he is saying but none of what I have seen him post is against the rules.
PREACH IT.peace man
Yeh but why shouldn't it exist there?Our current world state is the best reason.
If only white people existed there would not be any racism.If mankind hadn't gone North and lost color there would not be any white people.
black*this is unconfirmable
white ppl started racism afaik :)
Mikal is able to contribute what he thinks to this discussion, just as you have done. He is entitled to have a religion or to not have one. You may not agree with what he is saying but none of what I have seen him post is against the rules.I am sure you didn't read how the arguments started
this is unconfirmableIt doesn't need to be confirmed as both races are racist to eachother. :janek:
I am sure you didn't read how the arguments startedI'm sure you didn't either as I came into this discussion very late and the only time I've insulted someone was when I called Omar a twat for supporting what Hitler said about Jews.
It doesn't need to be confirmed as both races are racist to eachother. :janek:I almost read everything in this topic , and what I said about following forums rules wasn't personally aiming at you it was said generally to all people in the discussion
I'm sure you didn't either as I came into this discussion very late and the only time I've insulted someone was when I called Omar a twat for supporting what Hitler said about Jews.