Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => Topic started by: Troy on January 03, 2009, 12:09:55 pm
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I know most of you will think this stupid or gay or what ever. But it’s really gotten to annoy me; I know other people may feel the same way as I have heard other views.
I love Argonath, I love playing on the server, at first I was on here 24/7 because I found it great fun making money or trying to get a house. As I have progressed with the server I’ve gotten to hate it.
The reason why I hate Argonath to a certain extent is the community on it, I wouldn’t use this as a complaint, I’m expressing my opinion. So.. As I was saying the community is starting to piss me off. Everyone on there is set into groups, these groups are bottom rank, middle class and top rank. Yes, wtf am I saying?
I’m saying that Argonath can be bias at times. I use the word ‘asslickers’ because that’s what they are. They suck up to admins getting all the respect; I’ve never gotten to know a server where all you hear ALL the time is ‘no caps!’ from people or ‘no flame’, ‘OMG ID 27 why did you hitted me’ Off Topic: Why the f**k do people say ‘hitted’ instead of ‘hit’? Anywho.. Yes, there are loads of people which do this and you can’t deny it, can you? Or would an excuse be, ‘well we just want to make Argo a better community’. But that is why we have admins.
I would also like to mention that in these so called ‘groups’ people get a cartain amount of people say ‘hey’ or ‘OMG It’s [Whoever]’ mostly to admins.. *Cough* Asslicking once again.. So I have learned there are 3 (4) steps to become a popular person on Argo.
1- Asslick – Yes, asslick to all the admins and get the first priority.
2- Be able to RP – Yes, if you are shit at English you will not be popular.
3- Be stuck up – Yes, I’m writing all ‘stuck up’ right now because if I didn’t I would be classed more of a bloody noob than I already am.
4- Be an admin – (Optional) If you are already an admin you have succeeded in being popular, no need to do any admin work as everyone already sucks up to your ass.
Once you have proceeded to those steps you are now a popular little bunny on Argo.
Most of you will problily be like now ‘WTF you’re/some people are not popular, get over it’. But it’s a retarded system; I mean IRL do you asslick your teachers? Or even your mom? Hmm.. If you do then you are gay. But anyway IRL I’m not stuck up or a nerd or what ever.
I guess this server will always stay the same.
Ps. Everyone is entitld to their own opinion.
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I can understand some of your mentioned points really good, Troy. :P
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Nice topic Troy
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Agreed.
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Ive noticed that EVERY Argonath server is like this, and like you.. it really pisses me off. I play in the VCMP argonath server, and i REFUSE to asslick admins on there. I have noticed what you are saying like.. When someone shoots it like "OMGZOR. You shooted me!".. WTF, thats what admins are for. Then we get "if you see a problem use /c !report.." but yet, people who want to ASSKISS admins and suckup to get in that High class zone continue to announce every single move we make. Due to this i have been banned, because when they do this.. they do not even get the whole storey-background behind the incident. "OMG he shooted me!" (when i was RPing a bank robbery), BAM. im kicked... RP is ruined and the little kiss-ass who shouted it has another point added on to his asskissing.
I thought the main point of the argonath servers was Roleplaying... It seems i was wrong, the admins arent interested in RP anymore, they would rather ban as many people as possible without knowing the story behind it, so that they can sleep better at night. The admins are WAY to trigger happy on the server, too quick to ban without an explination.
This is my rank-reply to this, and i think anyone who isnt an Ass-Kisser who plays on the VCMP server will agree with this. :neutral:
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100% right, I open my mouth against every admin, so what...they can kick me or ban me...but they cant give me any arguements, because they know I am right. They cant see the truth.
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You really have a point there Troy... There are some players and even some admins which got their status because of well... asslicking.
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If you are talking about SA:MP, then I might agree with you...
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Totally agree.
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Yup i agree with Troy about Asskissing/licking the admins or WHAT EVER U WANNA CALL IT) to become popular,everyday it happens....its annoying ALOT
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WTF DOES DENIE MEAN? ITS DENY JESUS CHRIST
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WTF DOES DENIE MEAN? ITS DENY JESUS CHRIST
Calm down mate. :neutral:
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Agreed mate, TOTALLY agree ! I got banned a bunch of times becase of ''RESPECT'' to admins, but it was always not my fault, i mean i always try to say what happens, but i get a ban in the end, or threat, kick banana, any thing...They just want you to lick their ass so they could believe you.
Im talking to MIB right now, who wants people to''RESPECT'' Him to play in MTA:VC, like back in another day, i told him a joke, i told you your an epic fail to the world, guys answer me, does that mean ANY THING? did i curse him? but nooooo he just started to fight, and wanted to ban me and threatend me...along with, i always win in fighting convos, you DIDNT WIN mib, u just used admin powers to win.
I get back to topic, i agree with you, and yes alot of asslickers here in argonath, and a message to them f**k you all!
Offtopic- its denie, not Deny :P
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Calm down mate. :neutral:
It was sarcasm. :P
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It has to be 'deny', Heat, Eric was right.
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Ive noticed that EVERY Argonath server is like this, and like you.. it really pisses me off. I play in the VCMP argonath server, and i REFUSE to asslick admins on there. I have noticed what you are saying like.. When someone shoots it like "OMGZOR. You shooted me!".. WTF, thats what admins are for. Then we get "if you see a problem use /c !report.." but yet, people who want to ASSKISS admins and suckup to get in that High class zone continue to announce every single move we make. Due to this i have been banned, because when they do this.. they do not even get the whole storey-background behind the incident. "OMG he shooted me!" (when i was RPing a bank robbery), BAM. im kicked... RP is ruined and the little kiss-ass who shouted it has another point added on to his asskissing.
I thought the main point of the argonath servers was Roleplaying... It seems i was wrong, the admins arent interested in RP anymore, they would rather ban as many people as possible without knowing the story behind it, so that they can sleep better at night. The admins are WAY to trigger happy on the server, too quick to ban without an explination.
This is my rank-reply to this, and i think anyone who isnt an Ass-Kisser who plays on the VCMP server will agree with this. :neutral:
Once I start spectating a reported person, I take action on each rulebreak it happens. If the guy was rulebreaking before, doesn't mean you can rulebreak back, and you know you can take pics and forum PM me or send complaints to [email protected]
I hate asslickers, yeah you right now probably think 'JL is lying, HAHAHAHA, what an ass.', I just need to be cool to them because we need to respect each other.
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Once again people using 'gay' in bad context.. :roll: anyway, I have a feeling this topic will eventually be locked.
I won't be the one to lock it as I do agree with the fact that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Anyway, I do agree with some of the points, to an extent.. Well, I have seen many people asslick to admins especially to the 1337 admins. But this has been going on for years and people cant help but doing it.
You wont suceed in stopping it, but I think many people will realise many of the points you have mentioned Troy.
Also agree with Heat.
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If you are talking about SA:MP, then I might agree with you...
MTA:VC too.. :roll:
Heat, I'll give you some advice, don't argue with MIB, for reasons you now know why.. :)
Troy, just f**k the idiots, and keep playing, although I do agree with you.. asslicking does my head in :neutral:
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Wash, ill argue with god, if its not my problem, i mean not my fault on something.
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Troy? Would it be right if I said Argonath is lil corrupt?
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WTF DOES DENIE MEAN? ITS DENY JESUS CHRIST
i kidnappe and kille ure if ure dont accepte that its denie :war: :war:
*sarcasm*
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I agree, except for the part:
I would also like to mention that in these so called ‘groups’ people get a cartain amount of people say ‘hey’ or ‘OMG It’s [Whoever]’ mostly to admins.. *Cough* Asslicking once again..
I like greeting everyone that is friendly to me, and big part of those people are admins. I usually greet those admins everytime they get on, as much as I greet any people.
Example: If Gandalf logs in the server, I always say "hey gandalf!" (mostly because I'm usually a cheerfull person)
When he logs in, generally we get a spam chaos. Some people yes, they are saying "OMG it's Gandalf!" because they are asskissers. But some others, such as me, greet him because we think he is a great person, hardworker and very friendly. But being one of the server owners doesn't really matter to me.
What I mean is: I treat people for who they are, as in the personality, not the rank that person occupies. So if you see me greeting him, I hope you won't think it's asslicking.
Otherwise, I agree with everything you say.
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Troy? Would it be right if I said Argonath is lil corrupt?
Every server is corrupt in one way or another.. I'm glad most people agree with me about the asslicking thing, because it does seriously piss me off..
Wata, that wasn't really the main point to get around, yes I also say 'hey' to certain people.
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Completely agree with you. Another thing people do to piss me off is they go on Argonath thinking it's a chatroom and do no RP whatsoever.
Or people who join respected clans thinking they will in turn get respect.
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There is nothing wrong with saying Hey Imo, I say it to everyone I know. But I do see a lot of people doing ":O its gandalf/aragorn"
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Completely agree with you. Another thing people do to piss me off is they go on Argonath thinking it's a chatroom and do no RP whatsoever.
Or people who join respected clans thinking they will in turn get respect.
Squeak , you should see MTA then it's more of a Chatroom than anything due to the Fact if it never had outgame chat it'd be much Better. On the Respected Clans note am not saying you pointing directly at me so don't get all offensive but i didn't Join R* for Respect, i respect those who respect me, if they be an ashole to me then fine i'll be an asshole back simply put.
Though i agree with some points you Made Troy. ;)
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I basically agree with the points you listed Rory.
The problem is, that 70% of the people just fool around, spam the main chat, /su people for silly reasons, and are desperately looking for popularity/attention. 20 % of the people would like to RP, but they don't, because it's impossible to do because that 70% doesn't/would ruin it all. And the last 10% RP in their own closed society without contacting anyone.
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OHh hell troy that Exactly what i wanted to say since i begin to play on SAMP server.and the Word wich i like it ''Asslikesr"and its Exactly in its right Place.....People respect admins not Becuz for respect but Becuz thei are admins can /Kick can /ban..... and when he do something bad or Good thei begin to Laught and say haha good one adminkick him he diserve it ban ban :neutral:
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One thing you have to realise... This is just a game starring alot of people who are in the begining complete strangers to each other... Most people get stuck up with admins just beceause he/she finds them most trusting...
Don't let it get out of hand... What your saying here is that Nobody, Yet nobody may say hello to anyone entering the server; And every community has his weirdo's.. Things are just like that and will rarely change unless anything should change unexpected.. We can complain about it, yess... But would that solve alot?
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Yes I agree about the asslicking thing.
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2- false Olari is famous!
Anyways i say NO CAPS or DONT FLAME when admins aint online too... i cant see it as asslicking.
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Yeah have to agree here... have some asslickers in VC:MP too... :cry: :lol:
but i don't care.. makes me feel populair :lol: :lol:
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Everyone on there is set into groups, these groups are bottom rank, middle class and top rank.
So what is wrong with that? It is normal that in a community there is people, that are more popular then others, you can't fight it.
I’m saying that Argonath can be bias at times. I use the word ‘asslickers’ because that’s what they are. They suck up to admins getting all the respect; I’ve never gotten to know a server where all you hear ALL the time is ‘no caps!’ from people or ‘no flame’, ‘OMG ID 27 why did you hitted me’ Anywho.. Yes, there are loads of people which do this and you can’t deny it, can you? Or would an excuse be, ‘well we just want to make Argo a better community’. But that is why we have admins.
Well Argonath is a community, what is similar to a country and reality we live in. And in the reality we have also what is so called "citizen-bravery". So why not use it? Why can't a regular player do whatever is in his power to stop the rulebreaking? Even if it is just a word in a text box. I don't know about SAMP, but in MTA:VC we also have (at least had) a rule, that self-defense is allowed, people - use it.
I would also like to mention that in these so called ‘groups’ people get a cartain amount of people say ‘hey’ or ‘OMG It’s [Whoever]’ mostly to admins.. *Cough* Asslicking once again.. So I have learned there are 3 (4) steps to become a popular person on Argo.
Most of you will problily be like now ‘WTF you’re/some people are not popular, get over it’. But it’s a retarded system; I mean IRL do you asslick your teachers? Or even your mom? Hmm.. If you do then you are gay. But anyway IRL I’m not stuck up or a nerd or what ever.
Saying "hey" is asslicking? Hey is slang for hello. And it is common courtesy to say hello or hey to a person you know. OMG is an expression of amazingness?( don't know the exact word, hope you get what I'm, trying to say). And for Gandalf who comes into the game rarely, it is a proper thing to say. I would be also "OMG,OMG,OMG" if I'd see Crimson coming to MTA:VC again.
Off-topic: As Miami said, gay is misused in this quote.
I guess this server will always stay the same.
Ps. Everyone is entitld to their own opinion.
Nope, server is going to change, and it always will, and we will change with it.
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2- false Olari is famous!
lol i was going to say the same :P
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There is nothing wrong with saying Hey Imo, I say it to everyone I know. But I do see a lot of people doing ":O its gandalf/aragorn"
You wouldn't say hey to everyone in SAMP, your hands would hurt =P
:ps: I say 'hey' or w.e to as many people as I can, it means they are friendly towards me, and like-wise so am I, and that's how friendship starts.. (sometimes =P )
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Let me give you an example, which would fit 10000000%ly in this community, its so simple but proofing.
So, we all know cDa make very nice signatures and they mostly get the rating 10/10. However they look, mostly 10/10.
Then, lets just say, cDa makes a signature for Olari and it looks ubercool, I will assure you that Argonath would give him an 8/10 or a 9/10 why?
Because SA:MP ADMIN doenst stand under his name.
Thanks I'm James Brown.
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Well, I rate as I see, I saw the sig Cane made for Ross, and I didn't like it, Regardless if it said "Cane" or "Ross", And one more thing, For couple of months now, I've seen so many things that make Argonath corrupt, And one more thing, Clans/Groups has a lot to do with everyone. ;)
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Yeah have to agree here... have some asslickers in VC:MP too... :cry: :lol:
but i don't care.. makes me feel populair :lol: :lol:
Your very populair to Dex. xD
I dont really care about being populair. Im not that populair on forums but everybody says OH HI GOODBLUE!!! HEY!!! WASSAP! in VC:MP. :lol: :rofl:
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Saying 'hey' or 'hello' to certain people wasn't the main point I was trying to get around (As I have already said). It's just that I don't think you should treat people differently because of various reasons.. I mean saying 'hey' isn't asslicking, for example, when Tai (Sorry to bring up names) was not admin he never got a 'sup' or what ever, now he is.. Just look at him.
Maybe saying 'no caps' or 'stop flamming!' when admins are not around isn't asslicking. But doing it admins are online I would class that as asslicking.
Yes I have a habbit of calling people 'gay' as we do in England.. Sorry.
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Let me give you an example, which would fit 10000000%ly in this community, its so simple but proofing.
So, we all know cDa make very nice signatures and they mostly get the rating 10/10. However they look, mostly 10/10.
Then, lets just say, cDa makes a signature for Olari and it looks ubercool, I will assure you that Argonath would give him an 8/10 or a 9/10 why?
Because SA:MP ADMIN doenst stand under his name.
Thanks I'm James Brown.
100% agree.
Its always funny to see how much you are treated differently as a player and admin. One day, I logged into the server under a non admin acc, and i was playing, doing stuff i would do on my admin account but going a lil further...and i got warned/kicked so many times, its amazing. Then i went on the server as admin, did the same stuff and nothing happened. That was a real wake up call to me.
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100% agree.
Its always funny to see how much you are treated differently as a player and admin. One day, I logged into the server under a non admin acc, and i was playing, doing stuff i would do on my admin account but going a lil further...and i got warned/kicked so many times, its amazing. Then i went on the server as admin, did the same stuff and nothing happened. That was a real wake up call to me.
Yes Lionz thats what are we talking about the BIG difference Betwen admins and Players.
Regular Player join server
Regular Player:hello Argonath
Nobody Respond
Admin Join server
Asslicker1:hey
Asslicker2: hello How are you
Asslicker3:hello Happy birthday((Maybe he is not his Birthday ))
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this is Just a Exapmle wich we see it Everyday
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Vlad, i think your wrong there cause i've seen many Regulars who aren't admins get asked "Hey! How's Things?" or some or other, people could Ignore them maybe cause they'r Busy ingame.
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100% agree.
Its always funny to see how much you are treated differently as a player and admin. One day, I logged into the server under a non admin acc, and i was playing, doing stuff i would do on my admin account but going a lil further...and i got warned/kicked so many times, its amazing. Then i went on the server as admin, did the same stuff and nothing happened. That was a real wake up call to me.
Deja Vu?
In a GMOD server (currently dead because of the mingebags), I was a moderator, asslickers to moderators and admins were avalible. So I did SAME THING as you Lionz: I went kill everybody, no one said anything. So I left, putted another username, and went inside. I killed everybody again and they were like "OOOMFG STOP IT NUB".
Yes Lionz thats what are we talking about the BIG difference Betwen admins and Players.
Regular Player join server
Regular Player:hello Argonath
Nobody Respond
Admin Join server
Asslicker1:hey
Asslicker2: hello How are you
Asslicker3:hello Happy birthday((Maybe he is not his Birthday ))
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this is Just a Exapmle wich we see it Everyday
Yep that's true, like, when a friend of mine joins I say "Hi" (In TF2 when Cr4ig0 joins I say hi, and other games same thing), when it's not a friend and/or someone I never saw before, I say "hi" if he does like "Hi Argonath" or "Hey everybody", but when a Main Admin or such joins, it's party. I don't say anything unless I want so.
I still remember a topic in "Argonath Pictures" that is like it was to post a screenie of you with RON. Oh my fucking shit, I almost died. For me, an Admin when comes to play, I respect like any other player. Unless he talks about some serious thing and that I should listen.
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Vlad, i think your wrong there cause i've seen many Regulars who aren't admins get asked "Hey! How's Things?" or some or other, people could Ignore them maybe cause they'r Busy ingame.
Lets try something else here rusty.
Hmm how can I say it, ok lets try it like this...if a regular player like Eric_Wright (just your name which came to my mind) comes in and says : "Hello" he maybe gets 1..2..or even 3 "hellos" back, but think of how it would be if his names was [Rstar]Eric_W, or something like this...the crowd would flip out: YOOO ERIC, HOW ARE YOU ERIC? ERIC RSTAR NICE NOW I LOVE YOU...and all this crap.
You got it?
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Will that also work with LOTR names?
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Almost sure it will.
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It's just like I said, A lot of it is to do with what Clan you are in.
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amazingness?( don't know the exact word, hope you get what I'm, trying to say).
Amazement?
The reason why people shout "OMG Hi Aragorn/Gandalf !!111!!one!" is that they are well-known and usually when they are online - some special event is going to happen. Also because they have the highest admin level and can set houses or things like that. I wouldn't call that asslicking, but a result of popularity and high rank.
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Let me give you an example, which would fit 10000000%ly in this community, its so simple but proofing.
So, we all know cDa make very nice signatures and they mostly get the rating 10/10. However they look, mostly 10/10.
Then, lets just say, cDa makes a signature for Olari and it looks ubercool, I will assure you that Argonath would give him an 8/10 or a 9/10 why?
Because SA:MP ADMIN doenst stand under his name.
Thanks I'm James Brown.
Totally agree. Even though I was hated in my latter days of being an admin.100% agree.
Its always funny to see how much you are treated differently as a player and admin. One day, I logged into the server under a non admin acc, and i was playing, doing stuff i would do on my admin account but going a lil further...and i got warned/kicked so many times, its amazing. Then i went on the server as admin, did the same stuff and nothing happened. That was a real wake up call to me.
Agreed. I cannot do half of the stuff now as when I was an admin. The admin status really gives it away..people tried to asslick their way up to me and I just ignored it and gave the non-asslickers more attention. The admin status is also down to fear. AS a higher level admin can wreck havok on your status. Plus higher levels can kick lower levels for going to far ina situation etc.
As far as I can see it, the 5 main things which Argonath revolves around at the moment is;
1. [Rstar]
2. Admin status
3. Money
4. ARPD status
5. Becoming really good friends with a high level admin, so that they become biased and use their powers to help you
The reason why people shout "OMG Hi Aragorn/Gandalf !!111!!one!" is that they are well-known and usually when they are online - some special event is going to happen. Also because they have the highest admin level and can set houses or things like that. I wouldn't call that asslicking, but a result of popularity and high rank.
But that does not apply for all cases.
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5. Becoming really good friends with a high level admin, so that they become biased and use their powers to help you
Haha, I remember befriending Rod so hed tp me when i got stuck somewhere remote, and he ended up doing it for a halloween event (A)
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Almost sure it will.
Well, then you are wrong, dear Argonather, because, when I enter SAMP as Theoden noone doesn't even recognize me, except for a few players who know me from MTA:VC.
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Asslicking? What you know about this... And last thin, if someone want to be nice, whats wrong in this? Its called culture. Hello...Thank you... Please... I would be happy see situation when regular say to new player. Please dont do that (and explain), instead of OMFG DmEr.... yarrr.
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Asslicking? What you know about this... And last thin, if someone want to be nice, whats wrong in this? Its called culture. Hello...Thank you... Please... I would be happy see situation when regular say to new player. Please dont do that (and explain), instead of OMFG DmEr.... yarrr.
I always tell people, if they stop complaining and teach the guy, they will get better results.
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100% agree.
Its always funny to see how much you are treated differently as a player and admin. One day, I logged into the server under a non admin acc, and i was playing, doing stuff i would do on my admin account but going a lil further...and i got warned/kicked so many times, its amazing. Then i went on the server as admin, did the same stuff and nothing happened. That was a real wake up call to me.
If you mean rulebreak , its pretty obvious you wont get kicked or warned on admin account..
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Not rulebreak, but going too far with jokes ect.
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Seems someone needs attention with his pointless topic?..
Does asslicking exist? Yes but its not so many as u say there is troy. The most people work hard to get where they are today, they working there way up, like in real world. But ofc i dont know where u from and ur culture how it work there.
The people that works hard often want to help others, but ofc there is also some that wants attention and some status. But when they dont do as they should they loses there respect...and they going down.
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Seems someone needs attention with his pointless topic?..
Does asslicking exist? Yes but its not so many as u say there is troy. The most people work hard to get where they are today, they working there way up, like in real world. But ofc i dont know where u from and ur culture how it work there.
The people that works hard often want to help others, but ofc there is also some that wants attention and some status. But when they dont do as they should they loses there respect...and they going down.
Hes simply saying that its fucking annoying to see guys like NO-NAMES-CALLED shouting and spamming the publicchat with: OMFG HAIIIII GANDALF <333333333333
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Does asslicking exist? Yes but its not so many as u say there is troy.
It's to many Panchi.
To bad i'm not that kind of guy who's telling names, otherwise you would see that they're to many.
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awww the sad truth.
when admin spams chat, i rather call him retard than say stupid "LOL" in main chat, too bad they ban you for that while admin lives happily ever after eheheheh
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Omg hai is asslicking? Lol.....
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Seems u guys dont know what asslicking is.. .
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Seems u guys dont know what asslicking is.. .
we dont mean all people who says HI are assliking but Mostly of them.....so if thei are not why when a normal Player join server nobody care and when an Admin do the Main chat get Flooded by ((Hello))
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we dont mean all people who says HI are assliking but Mostly of them.....so if thei are not why when a normal Player join server nobody care and when an Admin do the Main chat get Flooded by ((Hello))
Maybe that's because you usually say "hi" to people you know? Do you go on the streets and say hi to random people?
And admins are usually known, so no wonder people greet them.
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When you enter to a Room and there any many People some of them know you and some dont and you say Hello....in Public just who know you must say it back ??? i dont think so becuz if you wanna say hello just for 1 Personne u can use PM......Dont need to say it in Main chat
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Whining about asslicking = cocksucking.
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Whining about asslicking = cocksucking.
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Well let me figure out what my oppinion is:
I, for myself think that the mainpoint of Argonath RPG isnt the Roleplay.
The mainpoint is beeing in Rstar+ARPD+Admin -> If you reached that, you..are done with this server.
Its totally obvious, and I know it pretty damn well, because I play in this server for a pretty long time.
Earlier, during 0.2.1 and shit, Argonath was cool...people were chilled and werent flipping out when someone joined the server (like Gandalf or RON).
They got some..."Hi Gandalf, sup Ron" all this kind of stuff BUT on a CALM LEVEL..not like: OMFG ITS GANDALF <3333333333333333333333!
Understand?
Let me tell you a story of a new player who comes to Argonath, this is what he does.
He enters the server and sees, oh hey I got 10k for free...why not buy guns.
So he buys them, DMs a lot and gets his first ban. (not always)
After this ban, he recognizes his mistakes and starts to RP, but how to make cash? No one RPs a drugdealer..no one RPs a driver...nothing here? Oh look there FREECOP...I can be a cop when I want...nice! So he starts playing as a cop for a time.
Then he thinks...I got enough cash, lets open a mafia/gang, which starts as a total noob dmer gang which gets closed after maximum a month.
He quits the gang and applies for one of the Mainclans in Argonath WS or AV, mostly getting accepted on a Trial.
So now he is on Trial..nice, after he saw that his noob dmer gang failed, he restarts beeing a cop and applies for the ARPD.
Soon he gets accepted as a cadet, and 1 week later his name is darkblue and hes an officer.
From this moment on, he starts to play here everyday every night, very active.
Always shutting his mouth when admins say something to him , UNTIL he passes his WS or AV trial and gets the fullmember status.
One gate for the perfect Argonathlife is opened -> Yay I have my Clantag, so they respect me more! <- Thats true, experienced it myself.
Soon Adminapplications are opened...he decides to apply to be a Moderator...and 2 months later of playing every day and night as a cop, he gets on a Moderator Trial...so he decides to play longer and longer, so he gets his full-admin-level, and he gets it. After 1 more month of active playing, this player is a leader of AV or WS and is on Adminlevel 3. He applies for Rstar and gets accepted, he leaves his old passionclan and stays there as a "VIP".
Then a regular like me comes and does something...I get a warning of PLAYER X and think....WHO ARE YOU?
And also about this hacker-cheater-thingy, Panda once said it nice:
Today in Argonath, we got kiddies shotuing all over Publicchat: OMFG HACKER HACKER ADMIN ADMIN ADMIN HELP HELP HELP PLS PLS PLS! <- One sentencee.
Earlier we went to the hacker and owned him, and we had hell of a lot fun.
Thanks, Im James Brown.
Got it now?
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My comment was not senseless, nor idiotic. If you where smarter you would be able to figure the meaning of it out pretty easily.
And what the f**k does your story have to do with asslicking? it doesn't even mention a single ass being licked.
you sir, are an idiot.
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Wanna bet that there would be a fight soon on this topic ?
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My comment was not senseless, nor idiotic. If you where smarter you would be able to figure the meaning of it out pretty easily.
And what the f**k does your story have to do with asslicking? it doesn't even mention a single ass being licked.
you sir, are an idiot.
Sir, this has nothing to do with asslicking, I just want to figure out, how it comes to asslicking.
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Who u mean with "ur opinion"? And what has that story have to do with asslicking as topic is about?
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Who u mean with "ur opinion"? And what has that story have to do with asslicking as topic is about?
Just read it again, I said thats how it comes to asslicking.
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I don't know why you guys are so pissed with asslicking. Are you jealous of the people who get flooded with Hello's?
Asslicking in my opinion, is something that is embedded in our society. Employees do asskiss their boss IRL to get a raise!
I notice that a big part of the signatures in this forum say something related to "power" or "respect" which in my eyes seem to be a true reflection of what is the personal goals of the person in the server. If you aren't jealous of those asskissers, simply ignore them, keep on playing, unless you're also power hungry?
@ ChaNce: I find it very offending about what you said AV and WS. You're assuming something that you cannot prove.
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I don't know why you guys are so pissed with asslicking. Are you jealous of the people who get flooded with Hello's?
Asslicking in my opinion, is something that is embedded in our society. Employees do asskiss their boss IRL to get a raise!
I notice that a big part of the signatures in this forum say something related to "power" or "respect" which in my eyes seem to be a true reflection of what is the personal goals of the person in the server. If you aren't jealous of those asskissers, simply ignore them, keep on playing, unless you're also power hungry?
@ ChaNce: I find it very offending about what you said AV and WS. You're assuming something that you cannot prove.
I totally, absolutely do NOT mean it in an offending way, AV and WS are great clans, but liek I said they are a big step in Argonath to gain respect. Shouldnt be taken as an offendive expression.
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People dosent get accepted to a clan, arpd or admin throug asslicking... They deservs it due hard work or showing different skills. Same when u get promoted to an other rank. U work hard and got something special.
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People dosent get accepted to a clan, arpd or admin throug asslicking... They deservs it due hard work or showing different skills. Same when u get promoted to an other rank. U work hard and got something special.
But asslicking is still a big point there.
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I totally, absolutely do NOT mean it in an offending way, AV and WS are great clans, but liek I said they are a big step in Argonath to gain respect. Shouldnt be taken as an offendive expression.
Although you insulted all the trial applicants and the ones who left AV/WS to join Rstar such as Legend, Indigo, xcasio...
But it's not the main point here.
Once again, I ask: What's the problem with someone asskissing? Leave the asskisser be and continue working for what you want.
Also, I'm curious: Who are those so called asskissers who got admin status/ARPD status? You may PM me if you don't want to say it aloud. But I still doubt it.
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Although you insulted all the trial applicants and the ones who left AV/WS to join Rstar such as Legend, Indigo, xcasio...
But it's not the main point here.
Once again, I ask: What's the problem with someone asskissing? Leave the asskisser be and continue working for what you want.
Also, I'm curious: Who are those so called asskissers who got admin status/ARPD status? You may PM me if you don't want to say it aloud. But I still doubt it.
Thats how it is in Argonath,dont try to turn the truth arround. You join Argonath -> Join a good clan in this case AV and WS and will be Rstar one time.
How did I insult them, its a normal reaction everyone would do here, so what?
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By the way....
Most servers wont work well without a certain extent of ass-kissing, ifn theres no respect, the rules arent kept, and everyone gets banzored, and no one will play a 0/125 server,.
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Watahell he means me or/and cbfasi.. I still dont see anyone of us asslicking. We both work hard on different ways..
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Watahell he means me or/and cbfasi.. I still dont see anyone of us asslicking. We both work hard on different ways..
Lmao I dont mean you guys LOOOOOL.
I know whome I mean, and they know it themselves.
Reasons I dont mean Pancher: You play in Argonath pretty as same long as me, so I think you deserved this rank you got now.
Reasons I dont mean CBFasi: Look at his work? Isnt it enough?
And I think imma break this conversation up, because its only getting me into shit....even if I'm telling the truth, so lets stick to Troys points.
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I totally, absolutely do NOT mean it in an offending way, AV and WS are great clans, but liek I said they are a big step in Argonath to gain respect. Shouldnt be taken as an offendive expression.
They are great clans and take a long hard time to get into. You've been through the AV trials and you know how long they can last.
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" UXX stand-by for Chief Rafferty's orders, Over. "
Translation:
Hank, I am your little bunny, and I will do every single command you give me. *shakes his tail*
That is the quote from someone who I'll not mention the name.
I'm serious people, if admins could of turn off the /p chat and radar blips off for 5 days, you'd see how argonath would be... Different.
Edit: I doubt that any of you, who disagree, wouldn't say that 'turning off /p chat and radar blips' was an awesome idea after experiencing it.
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I don't know why you pick on Chance as the bad guy...
And John, that would be awesome.
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Yeah, no need to pick on ChaNce, he didn't do anything wrong.
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Oh also, you wanna every single person getting minimunly 20 hi's when he/she joins?
Script the following: Every single /p hi you say when a person joins, you get 50 dollars.
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I agree totally.
I do not play anymore for obvious reasons, but when I did it was like that .. maybe there should be a rule against asslicking, I remember some one got warned for it by Aragorn a while back, if you have an argument with an admin, he will immediately shout you down and just say "[email protected]" probably the worst thing to say.
P.S: I hate it when people misuse a and an, Example:"I ate an chicken" annoys me ^^
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Admins are players like any other and they don't deserve more respect than your own friend and such. I am sure thankful for admins though, because without them the server would be roaming with hackers...
Think of admins like real-life cops. You may hate them, but because of them the streets aren't roaming with murderers. Admin is just a job like any other.
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I agree totally.
I do not play anymore for obvious reasons, but when I did it was like that .. maybe there should be a rule against asslicking, I remember some one got warned for it by Aragorn a while back, if you have an argument with an admin, he will immediately shout you down and just say "[email protected]" probably the worst thing to say.
P.S: I hate it when people misuse a and an, Example:"I ate an chicken" annoys me ^^
man, you dont play anymore coz you got banned for constant rulebreaking :lol: :lol:
anyway, its understandable that there are asslickers on server... and i guess its logical they get treated better? uhm.. at least thats how i see and feel it..
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Im not picking, i have a discuss with chances;)
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Yeah, no need to pick on ChaNce, he didn't do anything wrong.
That's not called picking, that's called discussing. It's natural in forums that if you post your opinion there will someone who disagrees with it.
" UXX stand-by for Chief Rafferty's orders, Over. "
Translation:
Hank, I am your little bunny, and I will do every single command you give me. *shakes his tail*
That is the quote from someone who I'll not mention the name.
I always do that on a big operation, to let the superiors know that there is a unit avaiable. IMO that's bullshit.
That's a lot better than remaining silent and not cooperating with leaders and fucking the entire operation up.
Thats how it is in Argonath,dont try to turn the truth arround. You join Argonath -> Join a good clan in this case AV and WS and will be Rstar one time.
How did I insult them, its a normal reaction everyone would do here, so what?
I'm not trying to turn truth around. So what if WS and AV are good clans, or if they join Rstar after sometime? What the hell does this have to do with asskissing?
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Sorry but what's good about WS and AV? Clans aren't rp and most of the members of WS and AV never rp anyway.
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Regarding AV members, you can PM me and I'll make sure every pm will be investigated, thanks.
I want evidences of members not roleplaying...
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Not to offend R* here, but I would rather stay with Sforza any time, because I growed in Argonath RPG with Sforza, Sforza are one of the best RP groups on Argonath. I only joined ARPD cause one of my best friends asked me to, and I've really enjoyed it, and I always wanted to be a admin to help people and myself out but i havent had the chance yet., Even after all this I can still enjoy RP, but Thats just my opinion.
Also maybe, if people should stop talking and start getting to action to fix this, if you think it is harming Argonath.
And.. one more thing, you can't force to RP... Its a person's choice, And I've seen many ppl on SA:MP complain about non RP And ppl kicked for non=rp and not kicked for DM, So In my view, SA:MP is more corrupted then the other servers. MTA:VC VC:MP may not be perfect, but I see better admining and more respectful players on their servers then SA:MP. AS for MTA:SA, it is perfect, Great Admins & Great Players.
:ps: Not everyone on SA:MP are bad.
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Sorry but what's good about WS and AV? Clans aren't rp and most of the members of WS and AV never rp anyway.
AV members do roleplay. And I take that sentence as an insult towards the whole clan.
And AFAIK you do forced roleplay (as in, if you rob or jump someone, and he doesn't want to RP that, you scream "non RP" at him).
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Sorry but what's good about WS and AV? Clans aren't rp and most of the members of WS and AV never rp anyway.
Ditto from Grz. You want to talk about =AV= and [WS] problems. you can talk to all the administration staff in an MSN convo and then we can work out your problems. We have one of the highest standards of roleplay in this community. We do not do mafia and gang RP, as this is not a mafia or gang RP server. It is a free choice server with more than one possibility of RP. If we don't RP the way you want to. Ignore us, as we probably do the same to you anyway.
You may also find that [AV] members are mostly ARPD or admins along with [WS] being mainly event hosts etc.
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AV members do roleplay. And I take that sentence as an insult towards the whole clan.
And AFAIK you do forced roleplay (as in, if you rob or jump someone, and he doesn't want to RP that, you scream "non RP" at him).
So Grzesiek ,basically you are saying that this server could also be called: WHENEVER-YOU-WANT-RPG ?
Because thats how it sounds.
I mean imagine this -> If you'd want to kidnap me with your friends, and I just simply say..." Nah, not in the mood for RP", then you'd probably say the same.
And I really can think of ONE VERY VERY good example in Argonath , OF AN ADMIN.
Marcel and me were RPing to rob Hyper out, we rped , asking him for the his money..and you know what he did?
He gave us ONE Dollar and bunnyhopped away. I asked him in /p Hyper..what was that? He just answered like an idiot: Try to earn cash on another way.
BUT here comes the question..HOW?! No one RPs properly here, everyone is waiting for a Gimli-quiz (Not offending for Gimli), waiting to get money.
Its not true? Let me state this example: I wrote : "Free Money at LSPD", what happend? Atleast 25 players made a row infront me and waited for the cash.
There is no other opportunity to make cash, besides beeing an ARPD cop or winnign cash from DD Events and shit.
Why? Because no one even bothers to RP here. You could call it Argonath Freeroam Server, no one would care.
Earlier in 0.2.1 we had DrugRP, with NO DRUGSCRIPT and it worked hard! We had Gang RP and it worked out well, even with admins in it.
Mafia RP was at its highest with Solonik Corleone and Stracci and Araatus.
We had enough Streetgangs and Mafias at a same Level.
Aztecas Gangs (TAB and shit) Vagos gangs (18th Street) Crips (CPC) Bloods (TB) Ballas and GSF and a lot more.
And guys, theres no need to defend me, I can have whole Argonath against me and still stand my man :) Still, thanks :D
@Dave -> As I said, AV nor WS ARENT bad clans, I said they are ONE step to gain MORE respect and POWER in Argonath.
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So Grzesiek ,basically you are saying that this server could also be called: WHENEVER-YOU-WANT-RPG ?
Because thats how it sounds.
I mean imagine this -> If you'd want to kidnap me with your friends, and I just simply say..." Nah, not in the mood for RP", then you'd probably say the same.
And I really can think of ONE VERY VERY good example in Argonath , OF AN ADMIN.
Marcel and me were RPing to rob Hyper out, we rped , asking him for the his money..and you know what he did?
He gave us ONE Dollar and bunnyhopped away. I asked him in /p Hyper..what was that? He just answered like an idiot: Try to earn cash on another way.
BUT here comes the question..HOW?! No one RPs properly here, everyone is waiting for a Gimli-quiz (Not offending for Gimli), waiting to get money.
Its not true? Let me state this example: I wrote : "Free Money at LSPD", what happend? Atleast 25 players made a row infront me and waited for the cash.
There is no other opportunity to make cash, besides beeing an ARPD cop or winnign cash from DD Events and shit.
Why? Because no one even bothers to RP here. You could call it Argonath Freeroam Server, no one would care.
Earlier in 0.2.1 we had DrugRP, with NO DRUGSCRIPT and it worked hard! We had Gang RP and it worked out well, even with admins in it.
Mafia RP was at its highest with Solonik Corleone and Stracci and Araatus.
We had enough Streetgangs and Mafias at a same Level.
Aztecas Gangs (TAB and shit) Vagos gangs (18th Street) Crips (CPC) Bloods (TB) Ballas and GSF and a lot more.
And guys, theres no need to defend me, I can have whole Argonath against me and still stand my man :) Still, thanks :D
@Dave -> As I said, AV nor WS ARENT bad clans, I said they are ONE step to gain MORE respect and POWER in Argonath.
People do not and do not have to RP constantly and whenevr they are in the server. That is a well known state of fact that has been implied within all the servers for over 2 years.
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Its turned from a discussion of Troy's personal opinion to a topic solely about why clans are not good to join, some of the people writing in this topic saying what ass-licking is don't even know what they are talking about. Some people ass-lick, some people don't! stop being bitter about and ignore them and get on with it, if you complain about everyone in life who ass-licks then you will just get told to fuck off or/and a beating anywhere you go, whether it be work, school or out on the road...
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Let me say one thing...
On SA:MP, you don't wanna RP, you get kicked non RP.
If you DM, you get away with it.
WTF is that all about...
I don't know how you can defend all these mafia's and stuff, and just like Dave said, you don't have to RP, I was driving around one day just checking out SA, and Coreleone members came and wanted 2 kidnapp, I didn't wnat to RP, because I was doing other things, and what happens? I get car jacked and DMed, Wonderful. :D
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So you basically say, that Hypers reaction was normal?
What do you state as RP then? Making events? Doing Quizes? Mafias owning turf?
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WHENEVER-YOU-WANT-RPG ?
Because thats how it sounds.
Either that or ROFL (Roleplay Or Fucking Leave) RPG
You can at least PM your 'victims' that you are going to kidnap them and ask if it's OK with them. If you don't ask - expect people bunnyhopping away. And if you can't find any way to earn money except events and cop work - you're not creative enough. Look on MTA:VC - I still keep finding new ways of making money even though I play on it since winter '06.
arcel and me were RPing to rob Hyper out, we rped , asking him for the his money..and you know what he did?
no one even bothers to RP here. You could call it Argonath Freeroam Server, no one would care.
If you force people to be kidnapped, no wonder they don't want to roleplay (at least with you).
Earlier in 0.2.1 we had DrugRP, with NO DRUGSCRIPT and it worked hard! We had Gang RP and it worked out well, even with admins in it.
Mafia RP was at its highest with Solonik Corleone and Stracci and Araatus.
We had enough Streetgangs and Mafias at a same Level.
Aztecas Gangs (TAB and shit) Vagos gangs (18th Street) Crips (CPC) Bloods (TB) Ballas and GSF and a lot more.
Then why don't you start roleplaying WITHOUT the script just like in the old days? It's in your head that if someone is scripted, you HAVE to use it. Throw that out, it's limiting your imagination.
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Grzesiek why dont I start roleplaying without the script?
I am able to RP it, and a little amount of Argonath too, but the rest isnt, take it as an offence, but Im serious.
I dont force them, what else are they doing, that they are so busy? Ok Admins, I understand it but the rest? Driving arround in cars, waiting for an orange point to appear, or just drive arround waiting for a Quiz
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So you basically say, that Hypers reaction was normal?
What do you state as RP then? Making events? Doing Quizes? Mafias owning turf?
RP is optional, Roleplay is good, but only when your having fun, when your not having fun, no bloody point,
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Its turned from a discussion of Troy's personal opinion to a topic solely about why clans are not good to join, some of the people writing in this topic saying what ass-licking is don't even know what they are talking about. Some people ass-lick, some people don't! stop being bitter about and ignore them and get on with it, if you complain about everyone in life who ass-licks then you will just get told to f**k off or/and a beating anywhere you go, whether it be work, school or out on the road...
People who complain about asslicking to others. Are asslicking the people who they are complainging to. By picking out the ones that are putting on a show for all to see and telling the truth to try to impress someone else is partly asslicking in its own right. Although I would not use the word asslicking for it, but the general use phrase Suck-Up
So you basically say, that Hypers reaction was normal?
What do you state as RP then? Making events? Doing Quizes? Mafias owning turf?
What do you state as RP? Going around shotuing "yo nigga nigga lets cap some muthaf***ing bad guyes and go roll with our homies and pop some of those ballas!" I mean WTF is that. If you want to RP gangsta and want everyone to RP gangsta, there are plenty of gangsta RP servers there.
In the MTA days, all we had to go by was the /me command and some money transfer stuff and a few cop commands. Now there are nearly 100 commands that do everything for you. Rp in SA:MP has got lazy. MTA:VC uses creativity to roleplay and even after the new scripts. There are still only near 10-15 RP purpose commands.Grzesiek why dont I start roleplaying without the script?
I am able to RP it, and a little amount of Argonath too, but the rest isnt, take it as an offence, but Im serious.
I dont force them, what else are they doing, that they are so busy? Ok Admins, I understand it but the rest? Driving arround in cars, waiting for an orange point to appear, or just drive arround waiting for a Quiz
I do take it as offense. You are calling most of this RP community non-rpers. Some aspects I can see where you are comming from but others I cannot. People try there best to RP. If you want to complain about DMers "n00bs" then do so. If you want a good state of RP. Teach them. Simple.
RP is optional, Roleplay is good, but only when your having fun, when your not having fun, no bloody point,
Agreed. RP is optional. If someone is tired and cant be botherd doing alot of stuff and just wants to hang around with his mates. Or if they are feeling down and just want to relax and clear their mind, they should be allowed to. RP should not be forced upon people all the time. They should be allowed some time to relax and refresh themselfs.
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Dave, that shows me, that you think that you have a BIG RP Experience, but seriously you dont.
If I want to RP a gangsta..whats wrong with it? Corleones RP Mobsters? So they have to go to a Mobster Server, or we have to go to a Gangsta RP Server?
So you can told me indirectly that Argonath has no Roleplaypotential at all, besides COP-RP and Adminworks?
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Dave, that shows me, that you think that you have a BIG RP Experience, but seriously you dont.
If I want to RP a gangsta..whats wrong with it? Corleones RP Mobsters? So they have to go to a Mobster Server, or we have to go to a Gangsta RP Server?
So you can told me indirectly that Argonath has no Roleplaypotential at all, besides COP-RP and Adminworks?
Did I say that? No. I do not like the way people gangsta RP. I really don't. From experience all Ii can see, and Grz can back me up on this, is an excuse to DM, shoot some people, cause gang wars and flame people.
As for mobsters. I prefer that to gangster RP. Mobsters play a large part in the "economy" , raking in alot of wealth and using it to run buisnesses etc.
I did not at any point say that this server is admin and Cop RP alone. Learn to read and piece multiple statments together before you ever acuse me of saying something I clearly did not.
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@ ChaNce: I find it very offending about what you said AV and WS. You're assuming something that you cannot prove.
So do I.. Especially towards my person, as im AV Leader...
Sorry but what's good about WS and AV? Clans aren't rp and most of the members of WS and AV never rp anyway.
Oh they do... maybe they do not RP.. with you? Personally im tired of these "e-gangstah" who are "niggah come' off' "-ing all the time, then going shopping to buy some sunny clothes with his mum... Thats why i never roleplayed with any "e-gangstah"...
And cutting down your further comments about it - i did roleplay with criminals, Corleone, Stracci etc, but roleplaying gangster wasn't on my way, if you know what i mean.
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So do I.. Especially towards my person, as im AV Leader...
Go a few lines up and read what I just wrote.
To Dave: So tell me, what kind of RP do we have here?
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To Dave: So tell me, what kind of RP do we have here?
I'll answer that. Free RP. That means you roleplay what you want, and let others roleplay what they want.
If you force me to sit in a corner because you wanted to have a little fun, then I thank and leave for that kind of "roleplay". Unless you ask me before, and I'm not busy with anything else, then why not.
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So do I.. Especially towards my person, as im AV Leader...
How do you think Grz and I feel after running this clan for ( myself ) over two years and ( Grz ) nearly two years.
I think they are choosing below the belt tactics now...and it's really really not working.
Go a few lines up and read what I just wrote.
To Dave: So tell me, what kind of RP do we have here?
General Roleplay. that to be expected of a roleplay server. Close to real life, but not so close that it is too realistic for some people. It is a game that people play to have fun. Not to be forced into situations by gangster who have people on "their turf" and mobsters who constantly want to kidnap people and cops who constantly want to gun a criminal down. Everything is by choice. If someone does not like that choice they should be allowed to state their opinion and refuse the senario. Not constantly be foreced to do things they do not want to.
I ask you the same question , ChaNce.
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im tired of these "e-gangstah" who are "niggah come' off' "-ing all the time, then going shopping to buy some sunny clothes with his mum...
I don't want to offend you FlameMan, but what you call "e-gangsta shit" is called slang.
Well, lets turn this funny point around, of course we are not some gangbangers IRL, are you an officer in real life, are you a mobster? No. So it is wrong to bring silly real life examples into this argument.
I don't know how you can defend all these mafia's and stuff, and just like Dave said, you don't have to RP, I was driving around one day just checking out SA, and Coreleone members came and wanted 2 kidnapp, I didn't wnat to RP, because I was doing other things, and what happens? I get car jacked and DMed, Wonderful. :D
Let me also tell you something,
I don't know Vice City, but all I can say is that it must be boring as hell.
I guess everyone is walking around, doing /me farts hahahahahahha looooooool!!! /me farts again oh man hahahahahahahaha!!!!
How would you react if two mobsters come up to you, aim at your head with a firearm and ask you for money? You would have the balls to run away?
I hate bullshit like "They are DMing, DMing, DMing, ban them all!!", you don't have a clue what gang roleplay is about so don't dare to call it DMing.
I think the most of the people are simply scared of trying new ways of roleplaying, they rather stick to the old stuff.
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Noone has to RP if they don't I just explained it why I called it DM
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Well, as you said Free RP, is for me No RP.
There are people who are able to Roleplay, and there are some, who obviously cant.
What kind of RP do we have here?
Gang-Rp
Mobster-RP
Cop-RP
Other attempts of new Roleplaysituation fail hard here (Hardwarestore, Paramedic etc.)
You said, this server should be close to RL but fun.
Ok, let me state you this situation -> You see a bunch of Black gangmembers (not offending to blacks), in reallife you would pass them, because you are scared to get robbed or beaten up or yeah.
In this case I am a member of this bunch of black people, we are RPing at our turf...example drinking alcohol or gambling or anything releated.
Then some Argonathian "Free-Rper" comes up to us and acts like the biggest god of Argonath, he isnt recognizing that he is interferring our RP situation.
What should we do? We try to get him into our RP situation by telling him to let us alone or just get the hell away..and then some Rambo like Victor_Stracci comes up to us....Lolz omfg hahahaa wannabe blax..and drives us over with his car -.-. What can we do? No one is able to RP a gangsta, so we created the Gangnation where everyone is able, or beeing teached how to RP a gangsta, and thats why we only RP under ourselves and you see its working very good...BRAWLS SHOOTOUTS etc. until Noobcops (yes i mean it) come up and Uzi us dead.
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Noone has to RP if they don't I just explained it why I called it DM
Well Tupac, what are you doing on a RPG server then?
If you want to explore San Andreas you could also use the single player mode.
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Well Tupac, what are you doing on a RPG server then?
If you want to explore San Andreas you could also use the single player mode.
Thats what I am trying to say, why are you here? To wait for better weather?
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I don't know Vice City, but all I can say is that it must be boring as hell.
Wrong.
I guess everyone is walking around, doing /me farts hahahahahahha looooooool!!! /me farts again oh man hahahahahahahaha!!!!
Wrong.
How would you react if two mobsters come up to you, aim at your head with a firearm and ask you for money? You would have the balls to run away?
Yes, because you have unlimited sprint in MTA:VC. By the way, one of my favourite sports is evading DM gunfire (even thou I am admin)
I hate bullshit like "They are DMing, DMing, DMing, ban them all!!", you don't have a clue what gang roleplay is about so don't dare to call it DMing.
You hate being called DMer so you put a small story infront of it and shout back "nonRPer nonRPer!! Ban him!!".
And no, I don't call out gang-RP is deathmatch. Only most of the 'gangstas' do it too aggresively and force people to go in their story (disregarding theirs).
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It's a free server, you can do how you wish, you just gotta follow the rules.
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I don't know Vice City, but all I can say is that it must be boring as hell.
I guess everyone is walking around, doing /me farts hahahahahahha looooooool!!! /me farts again oh man hahahahahahahaha!!!!
How would you react if two mobsters come up to you, aim at your head with a firearm and ask you for money? You would have the balls to run away?
I hate bullshit like "They are DMing, DMing, DMing, ban them all!!", you don't have a clue what gang roleplay is about so don't dare to call it DMing.
MTA is really fun. It requires skill to know how to use the /me command in a certain way to do a certain action. It also takes skill to be alble to witness an RP phone call through the /me command.
Well, as you said Free RP, is for me No RP.
There are people who are able to Roleplay, and there are some, who obviously cant.
What kind of RP do we have here?
Gang-Rp
Mobster-RP
Cop-RP
Other attempts of new Roleplaysituation fail hard here (Hardwarestore, Paramedic etc.)
You said, this server should be close to RL but fun.
Ok, let me state you this situation -> You see a bunch of Black gangmembers (not offending to blacks), in reallife you would pass them, because you are scared to get robbed or beaten up or yeah.
In this case I am a member of this bunch of black people, we are RPing at our turf...example drinking alcohol or gambling or anything releated.
Then some Argonathian "Free-Rper" comes up to us and acts like the biggest god of Argonath, he isnt recognizing that he is interferring our RP situation.
What should we do? We try to get him into our RP situation by telling him to let us alone or just get the hell away..and then some Rambo like Victor_Stracci comes up to us....Lolz omfg hahahaa wannabe blax..and drives us over with his car -.-. What can we do? No one is able to RP a gangsta, so we created the Gangnation where everyone is able, or beeing teached how to RP a gangsta, and thats why we only RP under ourselves and you see its working very good...BRAWLS SHOOTOUTS etc. until Noobcops (yes i mean it) come up and Uzi us dead.
As I can clearly see from that post. you know f**k all about RP and f**k all about the way Argonath operates and works.
You want to find a server with those 3 catergories of roleplay. Go ahead. As you'll probably be happier there. Argonath is not a server with only 3 categories of roleplay. So learn your facts and then we can talk about what is RP and what is not.
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You hate being called DMer so you put a small story infront of it and shout back "nonRPer nonRPer!! Ban him!!".
And no, I don't call out gang-RP is deathmatch. Only most of the 'gangstas' do it too aggresively and force people to go in their story (disregarding theirs).
Ok, your first three points actually changed my mind.
However, I want to clear something here.
Yes, a few people call others non-RPers, but nobody wants to ban them. We simply don't want them to disturb roleplayers during their roleplay situations.
You know how long it takes to meet up with more than 3 people? If an officer / random citizen spots a group of people on the radar, they keep stalking the group.
I mean, what is that? The officers is looking for a reason to suspect the group of people, to have a little fun with his beloved UZI & the randon citizens play the clown, walk up to the gangs and randomly beat some members without a reason or insult them. They want to fuck up the roleplay situation in any case, on the other hand there are people who don't do it. So don't come with this argument again that I hate all cops or something like that. There are cops who can actually roleplay very very good and who might also check out the situation, but they keep distance and remain calm and leave after they saw nothing special is going on. Those people who disturb the "aggressive" roleplay, how you called it Grz, are forcing themselves into the story, because the gang / group doesn't give a fuck about them.
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Well, as you said Free RP, is for me No RP.
There are people who are able to Roleplay, and there are some, who obviously cant.
What kind of RP do we have here?
Gang-Rp
Mobster-RP
Cop-RP
Other attempts of new Roleplaysituation fail hard here (Hardwarestore, Paramedic etc.)
You said, this server should be close to RL but fun.
Ok, let me state you this situation -> You see a bunch of Black gangmembers (not offending to blacks), in reallife you would pass them, because you are scared to get robbed or beaten up or yeah.
In this case I am a member of this bunch of black people, we are RPing at our turf...example drinking alcohol or gambling or anything releated.
Then some Argonathian "Free-Rper" comes up to us and acts like the biggest god of Argonath, he isnt recognizing that he is interferring our RP situation.
What should we do? We try to get him into our RP situation by telling him to let us alone or just get the hell away..and then some Rambo like Victor_Stracci comes up to us....Lolz omfg hahahaa wannabe blax..and drives us over with his car -.-. What can we do? No one is able to RP a gangsta, so we created the Gangnation where everyone is able, or beeing teached how to RP a gangsta, and thats why we only RP under ourselves and you see its working very good...BRAWLS SHOOTOUTS etc. until Noobcops (yes i mean it) come up and Uzi us dead.
Actually i was driving normally through the one way road and one of you guys hit my car with a baseball bat a few times, i drove on. I needed to drive through again and i saw a lot of you guys covering the road. I am not going to let you guys hit my car again for absolutely no reason so i drove on fast, that's what you get for hitting anyone who has a non gangsta white skin, because that's what you guys do. Randomly attacking any car that drives past and insulting anyone who drives it, that's non-rp.
And another thing; You guys think it somehow makes you a good roleplayer if you add more apostrophes to your sentence, Like
" I' sho' dem' nigga' 'who' gangsta' "
No, it doesn't. And you're a far way from a good roleplayer.
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Yes, a few people call others non-RPers, but nobody wants to ban them.
I guess you're right. My message was more or less an overreacted one to fit into the emotional level of the "DMers! Ban" one. It was more like an opinion rather than a fact.
The officers is looking for a reason to suspect the group of people, to have a little fun with his beloved UZI & the randon citizens play the clown, walk up to the gangs and randomly beat some members without a reason or insult them. They want to f**k up the roleplay situation in any case, on the other hand there are people who don't do it. So don't come with this argument again that I hate all cops or something like that. There are cops who can actually roleplay very very good and who might also check out the situation, but they keep distance and remain calm and leave after they saw nothing special is going on. Those people who disturb the "aggressive" roleplay, how you called it Grz, are forcing themselves into the story, because the gang / group doesn't give a f**k about them.
I understanded that this way: You roleplay your stories (the gansta world on the server). But cops - mainly freecops, who don't know the server rules yet - ruin your roleplay and you get more aggressive. Though this bounces off at other players (including =AV=) too, because the gansta's generalized the behaviour of players.
Did I get it right?
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Ok, your first three points actually changed my mind.
However, I want to clear something here.
Yes, a few people call others non-RPers, but nobody wants to ban them. We simply don't want them to disturb roleplayers during their roleplay situations.
You know how long it takes to meet up with more than 3 people? If an officer / random citizen spots a group of people on the radar, they keep stalking the group.
I mean, what is that? The officers is looking for a reason to suspect the group of people, to have a little fun with his beloved UZI & the randon citizens play the clown, walk up to the gangs and randomly beat some members without a reason or insult them. They want to f**k up the roleplay situation in any case, on the other hand there are people who don't do it. So don't come with this argument again that I hate all cops or something like that. There are cops who can actually roleplay very very good and who might also check out the situation, but they keep distance and remain calm and leave after they saw nothing special is going on. Those people who disturb the "aggressive" roleplay, how you called it Grz, are forcing themselves into the story, because the gang / group doesn't give a f**k about them.
Heh, your story reminds me of myself about a month ago :P .
Anyways, I don't like that mobster DM.
Example: Me, Michael Montana and 2 Montana associates were driving my white Stafford from Montana HQ to Los Santos to just hang out and maybe plan some crime. We get caught up by a bunch of Corleones who start ramming our car so we pull over. One of them of course rammed the car somewhere far away with only 1 hit and the Corleones, a Burrow and a [SM] member started aiming at me for no particular reason. They killed us all. I asked David Corleone in PM later about why the Corleones like to DM so much and he ansewered that the Montanas killed one of his friends a while ago and they were looking for revenge. I can understand that, BUT how did they know how to find us? (they were driving towards us) How did they see that we are Montanas? Do they have eagle-eyes?
This is not a complaint, but an upcall to Corleones to stop DMing, because that was not RP at all.
About the "forced RP", I ALWAYS ask people OOC if they have time for a kidnap when I am about to kidnap them. If they say "no" I usually settle for a robbery or a Scarface quote.
There's also metagaming, the thing I hate most on the server.
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Dave, you play Argonath 1 year longer than me, but I can say that I really f**king know mostly everything about every kind of RP:
From Gangsta to MOB RP, from Medic to Cop RP, from Trashmasterdriver to Cabdriver RP.
And yeah maybe my RP skills shouldnt be used in this server, maybe you are right, but I simply lost the "Free-Rp-Abillity" of Argonath.
Im not writing things like: WTF OMFG ADMIN PLZ HELP in /l chat, /l chat is for me pure IC, if I write ooc i use "))"
So where is your problem?
And Im f**king sick of idiots coming up to our gang, while we are RPing a brawl and shout : DMER /report ? You know how I answer? Go f**k yourselves and get out of here if you dont know how to RP. Its really annoying to see guys playing the Mini-Moderator.
I open my mouth against everyone here ,You can warn me or whatever , but I wont refrain from my arguements.
If they cry about RPing a flame or a shootout, dont RP with us? We dont need you guys.
Seriously..just leave the Gang Rpers alone if you have no clue what RP is.
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Actually i was driving normally through the one way road and one of you guys hit my car with a baseball bat a few times, i drove on. I needed to drive through again and i saw a lot of you guys covering the road. I am not going to let you guys hit my car again for absolutely no reason so i drove on fast, that's what you get for hitting anyone who has a non gangsta white skin, because that's what you guys do. Randomly attacking any car that drives past and insulting anyone who drives it, that's non-rp.
And another thing; You guys think it somehow makes you a good roleplayer if you add more apostrophes to your sentence, Like
" I' sho' dem' nigga' 'who' gangsta' "
No, it doesn't. And you're a far way from a good roleplayer.
The advanced punctuation makes them look more intelligent.
Dave, you play Argonath 1 year longer than me, but I can say that its really f**king know mostly everything about every kind of RP:
From Gangsta to MOB RP, from Medic to Cop RP, from Trashmasterdriver to Cabdriver RP.
And yeah maybe my RP skills shouldnt be used in this server, maybe you are right, but I simply lost the "Free-Rp-Abillity" of Argonath.
Im not writing things like: WTF OMFG ADMIN PLZ HELP in /l chat, /l chat is for me pure IC, if I write ooc i use "))"
So where is your problem?
And Im f**king sick of idiots coming up to our gang, while we are RPing a brawl and shout : DMER /report ? You know how I answer? Go f**k yourselves and get out of here if you dont know how to RP. Its really annoying to see guys playing the Mini-Moderator.
I open my mouth against everyone here ,You can warn me or whatever , but I wont refrain from my arguements.
If they cry about RPing a flame or a shootout, dont RP with us? We dont need you guys.
Seriously..just leave the Gang Rpers alone if you have no clue what RP is.
I'll spell it out for you. Bee You Ell Ell Ess H Aye Tee.
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Maybe you think so, maybe your imagination of perfect RP are different.
Tell me, what is your imagination of perfect RP?
And you know something? I dont care of what a person is in Argonath...I have the same respect for RON as I have for Olari. Everyone is same for me, but not for the rest of yall.
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Maybe you think so, maybe your imagination of perfect RP are different.
Tell me, what is your imagination of perfect RP?
And you know something? I dont care of what a person is in Argonath...I have the same respect for RON as I have for Olari. Everyone is same for me, but not for the rest of yall.
I belive everyone is equal. Everyone except you. You are the most arrogant single minded idiot I have ever met in my life.
Your title. "Argonath's Finest". Total bullshit. I have seen better than you in this seerver and there are better than you. Alot better. You are the only person I have seen who uses forced RP constantly. Get a new version of RP and vary it a bit.
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From Gangsta to MOB RP, from Medic to Cop RP, from Trashmasterdriver to Cabdriver RP.
No one ever said that you have to play only one role. On MTA:VC it's usually one spawn - one role. And no one whines about non-roleplay, since people are roleplaying.
And Im f**king sick of idiots coming up to our gang, while we are RPing a brawl and shout : DMER /report ? You know how I answer? Go f**k yourselves and get out of here if you dont know how to RP. Its really annoying to see guys playing the Mini-Moderator.
I open my mouth against everyone here ,You can warn me or whatever , but I wont refrain from my arguements.
Use OOC. Talk to admins that you would like to roleplay a brawl and they will probably even spectate you to make sure it's all fair and no one gets in your way. So it's your fault that your brawls don't work out.
Instead, you prefer to lock yourself up in a closed world and bash everyone that collides. That's how you make problems (and get nervous breakdowns).
And take out the flaming or you will loose the chance to argue and throw out your pain and increase your post count. 9r2e5i3k.
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If they cry about RPing a flame or a shootout, dont RP with us? We dont need you guys.
Seriously..just leave the Gang Rpers alone if you have no clue what RP is.
If it wasn't for us, the veterans, the people who kept comming back and playing at the server. The people who supported the server through harsh times. There would be no Argonath.
At one point. Argonath was going to finish on MTA, right there and then. But the regulars, the veterans and new guys supported Argonath and got it back up to #1.
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I think this topic is getting a little out of hand.
I'd rarther have it locked than for it go on like this..
It was only ment to be my opinion, weather you would agree with me or not.
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I think this topic is getting a little out of hand.
I'd rarther have it locked than for it go on like this..
It was only ment to be my opinion, weather you would agree with me or not.
We are discussing your opinion. Only a bit more in depth than first imagined. ;)
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I belive everyone is equal. Everyone except you. You are the most arrogant single minded idiot I have ever met in my life.
Your title. "Argonath's Finest". Total bullshit. I have seen better than you in this seerver and there are better than you. Alot better. You are the only person I have seen who uses forced RP constantly. Get a new version of RP and vary it a bit.
You know why? Because you never met anyone else in your life except your E-Friends of Argonath.
KK enough on your level.
You are takng it serious right? I want to discuss. Title -> You really care of it? Fine I remove it for you, if you stop crying.
Why are you flipping out? I'm arrogant? Yes I am, why? Lack of RP, no one cares of it here? Im fine with it, LET US PLAY OUR GANGSTA RP. Ask everyone in the Gang Nation if they have a problem with our style of RP ? I bet everyone will say its fine how we do, BECAUSE? We actually took the few RPers of Argonath who are able to RP a gangsta. We roleplay under ourselves like I said, we dont have problems with Crips and Bloods ,if we have we report it to the leaders, and the problems get solved.
The only persons we report are guys like you acting tought infront of a big bunch of guys, driving us over with a Stafford, because they want to "set signs".
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ChaNce, you're very funny, ain't you? You know to organize a brawl very well maybe, I don't know, but what about
Talk to admins that you would like to roleplay a brawl and they will probably even spectate you to make sure it's all fair and no one gets in
You see? If you Mr. Gangsta Celebrity can't be bothered to ask a medium/high-level administrator to help preventing people to ruin the brawl, then don't argue here when someone comes to play Mini-Moderator or whatever you want to cry about.
Also, the fact that you're judging others' RP once your members can't RP for shit, it's REAL FUNNY. :lol:
Let me give you an example of Mr. Eug's actions when we attacked him on bloods turf:
- Bringing a Sniper Rifle to fight (after he ran, came to ammu-nation and headed back to counter-attack)
- Hijacking a random car to escape without a single /me
- Z-running
I suggest you to teach your own group to RP before spreading shit on others' RP.
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everyone in the Gang Nation if they have a problem with our style of RP ? I bet everyone will say its fine how we do, BECAUSE? We actually took the few RPers of Argonath who are able to RP a gangsta. We roleplay under ourselves like I said, we dont have problems with Crips and Bloods ,if we have we report it to the leaders, and the problems get solved.
I disagree. I personally think some of your members should really improve.
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Heh, your story reminds me of myself about a month ago :P .
Anyways, I don't like that mobster DM.
Example: Me, Michael Montana and 2 Montana associates were driving my white Stafford from Montana HQ to Los Santos to just hang out and maybe plan some crime. We get caught up by a bunch of Corleones who start ramming our car so we pull over. One of them of course rammed the car somewhere far away with only 1 hit and the Corleones, a Burrow and a [SM] member started aiming at me for no particular reason. They killed us all. I asked David Corleone in PM later about why the Corleones like to DM so much and he ansewered that the Montanas killed one of his friends a while ago and they were looking for revenge. I can understand that, BUT how did they know how to find us? (they were driving towards us) How did they see that we are Montanas? Do they have eagle-eyes?
This is not a complaint, but an upcall to Corleones to stop DMing, because that was not RP at all.
First of all, it was me who you called. We forced the Montana vehicle to stop, just like the Montanas forced to stop my members. We found the Montanas the same way the Montanas found my members. We attacked the Montanas the same way the Montanas attacked my members.
Do we have eagle eyes? Yes, we do. So do you.
Do we DM? No, we don't. Business is business. Don't f**k with my members.
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John...either admins dont have time or seriously just not respond, because they are busy with Cop-RP.
John I know where you played, and I know your Roleplayabilitly for the Gang Nation, but the others didnt, and I for myself as a single leader am NOT able to WATCH nor TEACH every single member what to do. If you have problems with the gang report it on the forums.
People get punished for it.
@ John, we cant force the style of RP from LS-RP to get here to Argonath, people are used to RP chilled, so I dont overgo this situation.
And guys, I dont think this discussion has to go way out of hand, because everyone has a different oppinion about Roleplay, I for myself like, how Carhartt calls it "Hardcore-RP" others do like "Chilled-Free-RP", but then I really beg you guys, do not interferr our GangRP with your "other style of RP", thats all what I want. If you dont like it, just leave us alone.
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Also, the fact that you're judging others' RP once your members can't RP for shit, it's REAL FUNNY. :lol:
:O nice mouth admin
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And another thing; You guys think it somehow makes you a good roleplayer if you add more apostrophes to your sentence, Like
" I' sho' dem' nigga' 'who' gangsta' "
No, it doesn't. And you're a far way from a good roleplayer.
Correct punctuation looks simply better than "z0mg, lawl, wtf, u, r, plz" in my opinion and it is called S-L-A-N-G, nobody ever claimed that it is better roleplay.I belive everyone is equal. Everyone except you. You are the most arrogant single minded idiot I have ever met in my life.
Your title. "Argonath's Finest". Total bullshit. I have seen better than you in this seerver and there are better than you. Alot better. You are the only person I have seen who uses forced RP constantly. Get a new version of RP and vary it a bit.
That has nothing to do with the argument.
I have also seen people who are much better than you, me, Grzesiek or anyone else in this topic, so?
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:O nice mouth admin
Thanks.
You're being the perfect example of that little asslicking bunny who shouts "LOL X IS RULEBREAKING!" in main chat here, although in this case you sound more like a developer's bunny.
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John...either admins dont have time or seriously just not respond, because they are busy with Cop-RP.
John I know where you played, and I know your Roleplayabilitly for the Gang Nation, but the others didnt, and I for myself as a single leader am NOT able to WATCH nor TEACH every single member what to do. If you have problems with the gang report it on the forums.
People get punished for it.
So you are saying that you cannot watch and teach your members. But other gangs/groups/clans can. I ran =AV= on my own with 20+ members for a while when Grz was inactive in 2007 until I promoted Sig/Indigo to leader. It is hard but you can atleast try, and thats your problem Chance. You don't try, you don't listen and you don't consider. It all has to be done by your way or no way.
@ Carhartt. I can say the same about you too. And why are you refering to yourself. I never refered to myself like that. I didn't say I was above anyone. Are you trying to say you are above people? That everyone is not equal in a certain way?
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:O nice mouth admin
Nah Matthew let us discuss, we wont throw stones at each other :)
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I have also seen people who are much better than you, me, Grzesiek or anyone else in this topic, so?
Not saying that I'm the best and all, but who and in what is better than me? That sentence lacks something.
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First, lets not discuss about people who are better or worse.. fuck it we are human.
So to Dave,
I am not trying to teach my members the "Basics of Argonaths'RP" I am trying to teach them a way of Roleplay they never heard off, the serious Gang-RP.
And, I am having the patience, I got reports about my members of beeing not able to Roleplay this way.
I am trying to teach them every day. Thats not the problem, the problem is to get it in their heads.
Also the statement you made about 20+ clanmembers beeing in the server watching for them etc. is WAY easier then teaching 20 Argonathians how to RP in the Gang Nation, you dont wanna try it.
John, yeah you play/ed LS-RP, so do I, we learned a lot there, but you gotta see that we cant force their rules to be the rules of Argonath.
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@ Carhartt. I can say the same about you too. And why are you refering to yourself. I never refered to myself like that. I didn't say I was above anyone. Are you trying to say you are above people? That everyone is not equal in a certain way?
Enough.
No, I didn't, I tried to prove the opposite, that nobody has a higher position than another person.
"I ran AV for that & that time on my own, I did that & that, I went through the harsh times with Argonth".
Seriously, is this some kind of monolog? Because nobody even cares.
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Enough.
No, I didn't, I tried to prove the opposite, that nobody has a higher position than another person.
"I ran AV for that & that time on my own, I did that & that, I went through the harsh times with Argonth".
Seriously, is this some kind of monolog? Because nobody even cares.
I'm stating how simple things could be. What have you ever done for Argonath? What have you ever done to help out when something fucks up and there is not alot of hope?
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John, please don't attack ChaNce or anyone else who is part of the gang nation.
I mean there are two gangs but we're one huge group actually, we'll try to improve the points you listed up above mate.
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As I can see from this topic we all have our own opinion of everything. So what the hell is the point of trying to get others to agree with your own personal opinion that you are entitled to?
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Just because i rp a gangster in a game doesnt mean im a "E-gangstah". Do you think i really care what you think about me? You don't even know me irl, so fuck off. :sig: :m4: :sig: :sig: :m4:
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Business is Business? Please...
Your member's DMed me for not RPing, I was just in my car driving.
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I'm stating how simple things could be. What have you ever done for Argonath? What have you ever done to help out when something f**ks up and there is not alot of hope?
Every part of the community helps Argonath to grow.
You want me to praise your name with that sentence, because I won't. A few friends & me are trying to teach a few players (In my opinion) a better style of roleplay, you maybe did a good job as admin, cDa helps out with graphics, another guy helps out by simply being a nice guy, he supports the good atmosphere on here, so?
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First, lets not discuss about people who are better or worse.. f**k it we are human.
Agreed.
I am not trying to teach my members the "Basics of Argonaths'RP" I am trying to teach them a way of Roleplay they never heard off, the serious Gang-RP.
So you're saying that you're teaching them how to be gangsters without teaching the basics? Maybe that's where the problem's digged in.
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Just because i rp a gangster in a game doesnt mean im a "E-gangstah". Do you think i really care what you think about me? no i don't, so f**k off
Thats what Im trying to point out. Argonathians seriously still didnt get the difference between OOC and IC talking.
If we talk like Black streetgangsters it doenst mean that we are Crips or Blood irl. ( Well Silver Barzini is a Crip irl I excue ;) )
@Grzesiek : We are not trying to teach them the basic : U, omg,wtf RP. We think that those called "basics" are already there, we want to improve the basics for a realistic GangRP
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So you're saying that you're teaching them how to be gangsters without teaching the basics? Maybe that's where the problem's digged in.
It depends on how you define basics.
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Every part of the community helps Argonath to grow.
You want me to praise your name with that sentence, because I won't. A few friends & me are trying to teach a few players (In my opinion) a better style of roleplay, you maybe did a good job as admin, cDa helps out with graphics, another guy helps out by simply being a nice guy, he supports the good atmosphere on here, so?
Exactlly. But have you really got yourself in deep shit to help out here? I have and if you haven't you don't know how I feel about things. Everybody views things differntly. You might think that, for example =AV= sucks compared to your RP groups, but Instantly I would say the opposite. You have no idea what I wnt through here. Not saying that i'm "Oh i'm so addicted , I feel so depressed etc etc". But I am refering to the point that people were hating me for doing a job which was bestowed me by the administration and that I got several hack threats and some very rude emails.
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Yeah Dave but you gotta understand that those people "stalking" you arent normal Argonathplayers, they are sick.
And yeah, I agree with your point -> Everyone has a different view on RP -> The Gang Nation wants to have cool Gangsta RP so we want you guys to leave us alone, if you arent able to follow us.
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@Grzesiek : We are not trying to teach them the basic : U, omg,wtf RP. We think that those called "basics" are already there, we want to improve the basics for a realistic GangRP
Well, I hope you at least check their roleplay skills before accepting.
It depends on how you define basics.
Server rules + a few examples on how you can use /me + answers on questions. Enough to teach someone to roleplay IMHO.
EDIT before posting: I see that the topic is kinda burning out (as in: it's not that aggresive that it was 1 -2 pages ago), so yeah, let's all shake hands/kiss in the cheek and play along without disturbing.
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EDIT before posting: I see that the topic is kinda burning out (as in: it's not that aggresive that it was 1 -2 pages ago), so yeah, let's all shake hands/kiss in the cheek and play along without disturbing.
Agreed.
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My opinion:
'Asslickers' - Everywhere has them, i hate them too, people can do it without even realising, leave them too it and silently pity them or whatever
Admins - Some fall trap of the 'asslicking' thing but the majority hate it and can detect those responsible easily
Forced RP - I feckin hate it, but there has to be some morals in the situation (depending on the context) to which you RP along with it
e-gangstas - You do not understand what we're on about, i mean the ones in OOC convorsation using 'gangsta slang' on main chat, not IC
This Topic - Started World War 3 and has descended into a farce, some of you must live around Argonath and needa get out more...
The UN - Im calling them right now to sort this mess out
Celtic FC - Four in a row lads, and ye know it :lol:
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Yeah Dave but you gotta understand that those people "stalking" you arent normal Argonathplayers, they are sick.
And yeah, I agree with your point -> Everyone has a different view on RP -> The Gang Nation wants to have cool Gangsta RP so we want you guys to leave us alone, if you arent able to follow us.
We won't bother you if you don't bother us.
Plus, a little time, for your new members, try a trial period of week or so, so you can see how they act within the gang etc.
@ Decy: STFU. Red White and Blue for Life!! C'mon Rangers!!
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Dudes in Argonath, no matter in which server, we have rules and you know in why they are like they are? So that a server you play in would seem to you as much close to the city in what you live in. Everyone in the server are citizens. Some of you want to role play a gangsters group, others want to be Mafia Family. There are also people, who want's to be just a citizen the ones you see on single player just wondering around. Rules are set just so that we won't interfere each other. That means that gangsters shouldn't hit normal citizen's cars without a citizen being in their role playing. And a citizen shouldn't come and kill a whole gang.
So as long as nobody breaks the rule there is no such thing as a "good roleplay" and "better roleplay". It's just different kind.
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"So as long as nobody breaks the rule there is no such thing as a "good roleplay" and "better roleplay". It's just different kind."
100% Agree on that Jubin.
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@ Decy: STFU. Red White and Blue for Life!! C'mon Rangers!!
Nah, c'mon Manchester United :P
Or our loacal team Exeter City, but they are still in league 2..
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I don't know how you can defend all these mafia's and stuff, and just like Dave said, you don't have to RP, I was driving around one day just checking out SA, and Coreleone members came and wanted 2 kidnapp, I didn't wnat to RP, because I was doing other things, and what happens? I get car jacked and DMed, Wonderful. :D
Business is Business? Please...
Your member's DMed me for not RPing, I was just in my car driving.
I think you have forgotten something...
Please check the posts after this post of yours on the CM topic (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=3342.msg315932#msg315932).
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Plus, a little time, for your new members, try a trial period of week or so, so you can see how they act within the gang etc.
Just because we "accept" someone in the gang topic it doesn't mean that they're in.
They have to roleplay their way into the gang, some people need a few days, others need months.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I think everyone stated his point, peace out. :P
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@ Decy: STFU. Red White and Blue for Life!! C'mon Rangers!!
Rangers are shit :poke:
ok ok ok, they mightnt be SHIT.. but they are clearly not better than celtic... and celtic wouldnt even survive in the premiership and hardly make it in Europe :drunk:
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Correct punctuation looks simply better than "z0mg, lawl, wtf, u, r, plz" in my opinion and it is called S-L-A-N-G, nobody ever claimed that it is better roleplay.
I'm not debating whether it sounds better than all those things, they don't, i don't do them. And it's not correct punction most of the time when people just add one when they feel like it instead of using it to show ownership/possesion or in place of a missing letter and the other reasons. And i'm not being a snob and correcting peoples grammer and saying i have better grammer because i really don't. All i'm just saying is that some people think by doing this new trend of adding apostrophies it makes them somehow better roleplayers and of the new roleplay era. Nobody has to claim or admit something to make it true, that's a flawed viewpoint.
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@ Dave: Ach sure Rangers are in massive debt, Murrays gonna sell half the squad in this transfer window, sure Gow went for a quarter of a million there :lol:
@ Anto: Celtic WOULD survive in the premiership its overrated :roll: And aye theres always next season, last 16 again prob
The thing about the premiership is that skys givin it all the money, thats gonna feck up in the next few years due to the current financial situation. Celtic are not in debt which cant be said for most premiership teams due to their overinflated amounts of money spent on players trying to compete. We spend as much money on players in 2 seasons than the top 4 in the premiership spend on one player
I cant wait to see that league bugger up :D
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I'm not debating whether it sounds better than all those things, they don't, i don't do them. And it's not correct punction most of the time when people just add one when they feel like it instead of using it to show ownership/possesion or in place of a missing letter and the other reasons. And i'm not being a snob and correcting peoples grammer and saying i have better grammer because i really don't. All i'm just saying is that some people think by doing this new trend of adding apostrophies it makes them somehow better roleplayers and of the new roleplay era. Nobody has to claim or admit something to make it true, that's a flawed viewpoint.
I also hate it when people randomly add a " ' " after each word, it makes them looking pretty stupid in my eyes, but it is their choice.
And ... I don't agree with your opinions about the soccer clubs :P
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I also hate it when people randomly add a " ' " after each word, it makes them looking pretty stupid in my eyes, but it is their choice.
And ... I don't agree with your opinions about the soccer clubs :P
So whats ur opinion on football? :)
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Manchester United are going to be champions, FA Cup Winners, League Cup Winners, and Champions League winners. :D
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Bah, English football is for nancies :D
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Barcelona all the way!
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:L this a football thread now :L
Lock? :D
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:L this a football thread now :L
Lock? :D
Yeah lets lock it :)
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Manchester United are going to be champions, FA Cup Winners, League Cup Winners, and Champions League winners. :D
:alert" Warning :alert" Glory hunter :alert" Warning :alert"
Liverpool all the way! :hoor:
Haha, sorry. Yeh i think this needs to be locked now?
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KO
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Well Dave, I love the English soccer, but I have to support my favourite team! :P
Werder Bremen, grün-weiß, ein Leben lang.
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Liverpool and Bacelona..
They are great teams.. i will stick with half liver and half lona.
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Yes, lock this topic now, all has been said.
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So off topic :rofl:
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So off topic :rofl:
It's still an opinion :D
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Didn't think this thread would reach 11 pages.. =/
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Well done, you just shown your mind capabilities. :pop:
Troy should change the name of this to 'Discuss about Football here!' :lol:
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Chelsea FTW!
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No offence... 90% off SAMP community have NO idea about RP.
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No offence... 90% off SAMP community have NO idea about RP.
Agreed, a good few people just drive around and shoot, and the non ARPD cops arent RPing properly either.
But in a sence, considering the size of the map, RPing can be very hard sometimes, but more rewarding. And some non RPers teach other people to "RP" the same way they know. But im planning a few big roleplays im going to put on the forum, including a Vampire roleplay, which will be sign up only, and a Die hard style roleplay, which i shall ask ARPD to help with (the cops side) and sign ups for everyone else, to promote RP.
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I mean about these who are not new here. These are known people, active on server and forums.
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Yes, lock this topic now, all has been said.
Troy requested this topic to be locked.. =/
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Well done, you just shown your mind capabilities. :pop:
Thats very sad John, that the only thing that goes through your mind are insults.
No offence... 90% off SAMP community have NO idea about RP.
It's true.
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I mean about these who are not new here. These are known people, active on server and forums.
Thats what I'm saying
The problem is, they think they can, and they all "teach" new players, and we end up with people being the exact same, without change,
All we have now is cops, who complain when criminals shoot back, and run around chasing orange dots, who are mafias who have gotten bored of the serious lack of communial RP in the familys, Corleones rarely have a group RP, Straccis just round people up and kidnap people, and I wont even give my opinion on some of the other mafias iv seen.
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Well erm.. Since topic is going to be locked, drop the discussion? we can keep going on about it, but would it start to make any difference?
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Locked