GvardiaGangFamily.
58th Street Group
Reason: Widespread cheating; vote promises for each other; several duplicate accounts to accumulate votes.
I'd be happy to see some evidence how we cheated some of our 40 votes, thank you.Sorry, I'm the one who should be PMing you? Last I saw, it was your group that was disqualified and me who did it...perhaps you should be PMing me? Or is that not how it works in DA HARDc00re CRIMIANL WURLD 0F 4RG0N4TH RPGGGGGGG?
Feel free to PM me, Giac.
Feel free to PM me the evidence, Giac.
Sorry, I'm the one who should be PMing you? Last I saw, it was your group that was disqualified and me who did it...perhaps you should be PMing me? Or is that not how it works in DA HARDc00re CRIMIANL WURLD 0F 4RG0N4TH RPGGGGGGG?
Evidence that both groups cheated or gtfo.
WOw ...
Look at this... How nice... Giac does this on HIS time, does not get any thanks for it, all he gets is whinning? He did find cheating, I can testify of it there are abnormal situations in the votes and some people deserved to be D'q.
About group dq. If Giac has a reason to do so, it could be becase some members of those groups were aware of the situation but did NOT report it.
And if oscars leads you to flaming, I think you should re-think your priorities in life. I don't see why someone, doing this on his time, with good intentions, should be direspected like he is currently.
Upon request, any message judged as being offensive or disrespectful will be removed. We do not need this behaviour on Argonath.
I thought it'd be right to publicly humiliate the people/groups involved in the cheating because what they've done is just sad and low.&
The above are truly the saddest people in the world, who would to go such lengths to secure a virtual award they obviously didn't work hard enough for.
Leo, please leave the topic before somehow I remember how I earned 200k.
im not active anymore so i gave u 200k for evidence big deal lol
I'd like you all to thank the above for attempting to rig the voting and ruin YOUR experienc and YOUR awards. The above are truly the saddest people in the world, who would to go such lengths to secure a virtual award they obviously didn't work hard enough for.You're full of bull shit.
Will post updates in this topic as they come.
Viva la GiacJr.
Hey, please vote [Z] in best RP group SA:MP :P
GiacJr obviously doesn't have the ability to handle this task. I believe that someone of more maturity should be incharge of this, not someone who uses it to make himself look big.I would also start to push the guy down, who disqualificated you! It really makes you look like not been involved!
I would also start to push the guy down, who disqualificated you! It really makes you look like not been involved!
The accausion you just made is one, that someone would make if he really has nothing to proof for his good.
Giac does his job good and he definetly got support of Argonath HQ in doing it as we also noticed the cheating.
It is a quiet big fraud that many pulled up, possibly together. A collective punishment for it, might be not a bad a choiser -
and ESPECIALLY CAUSE GVARDIA is a OFFICIAL GROUP, they should simply live with it. It's not like you loose anything
cause you dont get a Award this time.
I am part of this community for 3 years now and never got an award, am I whinning? NO
Ryan, the post with David was not serious - and it was clearly a joke to bright up the atmosphere since people starts to get mad as you can see. :)
Those saying that GiacJr isn't capable of doing these jobs, do it yourself. If you're just 'hunting' an award instead of truly caring about it, then why the heck do you even take part? Listen, you're all shitting on Nathan as 'wannabe admin', however he DOES put something in the community, but now i see the SAME moaners from that topic moaning here that they were disqualified. Then whose the most power hungry?We're simply not moaning, Ryan. We simply felt cheated. We're leading a group, we organize decent role-play, we get voted for the Oscar and out of nowhere now we're announced disqualified from the whole Oscar event. Que politely asked for any evidence related to any of us, leaders of 58th Street Conecta asking for votes but Giac simply went mad at Que.
I don't think Giac ever would fake a disqualify. He never did.
As with the oscar awards. Deserve them or don't take part in them at all. There are reasons why i avoided this year's oscar votes board aswell...
Interesting list of those who were disqualified...
The owners of Argonath RPG entrusted GiacJr with this task, meaning they saw in him the capability to judge.They were wrong.
Those saying that GiacJr isn't capable of doing these jobs, do it yourself. If you're just 'hunting' an award instead of truly caring about it, then why the heck do you even take part?
I think everyone appreciates Giac doing this, but all those who has been DQ'ed, are mad because they have no clue why. If that will get solved everyone will be happy and we can play normally again.
Because I am so good at flaming people like you that piss me off.
We are not atacking him shitting on him but its all his responsability and he is the only one who must get blamed.
This task should be handled by someone who is still active within the community.
Anyone else can be, so there's nothing special about what you are aiming for.Pointless.
And to think Violet calls me self-contradictory.Pointless..
There are many things even the FBI doesn't know. :)Sadly pointless....
Pointless
Something is pointless to a person who cannot grasp a point.No,its pointless because the person couldnt clear his point...Posted just to post.
No,its pointless because the person couldnt clear his point...Posted just to post.And you need to pick up a fight on that, oh lord... get out of topic and just keep it for yourself if you got something to moan? PLEASE!
Anyone else can be, so there's nothing special about what you are aiming for.And anyone else can be fucked from winning any other award.
No.
This is the reason you are banned, if you started showing some respect, and stop provoking, perhaps admins would unban you.Then stop stalking and atacking me after every post,I say what I feel...If you like it we're cool if you dont I simply dont care.
They gave you a chance and you did not listen to their terms of the agreement, for that I dont see why you are still here.
When I knew you back in Gvardia you where like this, although you had some respect for the rules and administration, but now all I see is you trolling and provoking on forums which has lead to your unban request being denied.
So I suggest either changing your attitude or never have a chance of being unbanned.
There is no need to try get into a damn argument with every single person on the forums.
Man, I lose.Man I should have won.
Then stop stalking and atacking me after every post,I say what I feel...If you like it we're cool if you dont I simply dont care.Nobody attacks you, but you obviously show how smart ass you are actually acting. You are working yourself on your
MadBoi stop trying to make yourself look like a gentelman,we all know who you are.Now Stop existing.
Nobody attacks you, but you obviously show how smart ass you are actually acting. You are working yourself on yourI was just expressing myself like anyone else,and i got nothing personal against anyone but anyone who point at me with any offensive attitude i'll defend myself whoever he is.
reputation and that people in here start disliking to see you posting here - as we now know it make a change of like
ZERO
The only reason that you are writing here is to defend yourself from the troubles your are starting.
Do not have a argue here please.
58th Connecta and Gvardia are not DQ, unless you got any proofs of Me, Eugene, Killar, Leon, or Julian, Que and Sean, cheating the votes, and I know there is none, cause we simply didn't do it.
As for Antonio case of DQ, obviously its a "hear-say" setup for a 200k reward, done in local chat, but even if its true, you can see its about the players personal award (best flamer as its shown on that fake picture), and not Gvardia group or what so any connected to us.
You guys are seriously just f**ked up! Drop the f**king heat you assholes.Gentleman.
Gentleman./me slightly looks at Eazy R as he raises his middle finger.
cerimony = ?Ceremony*
cerimony = ?
It was supposed to be end of Jan but shit happens"shit happens, and since im the shit, im who it happened to" - weezy f
Can't wait till the ceremony! :D
Can't wait till the ceremony! :DDon't worry, you can. And when the ceremony comes you can wait once again as the server will lag like [insert a bad word]
I guess the groups were disqualified because members were aware of cheating from some of their fellow members, but did not do anything about it.I'm one of the more active Gvardia members (was at the time), and I had no clue of this occurring.
I'm one of the more active Gvardia members (was at the time), and I had no clue of this occurring.
Not everyone in an organization has to be aware of fraud its members are involved in. We all know that each group has (usually) at least one member who will reveal any ongoing fraud. It's like an FBI Agent engaging in corruption, he cannot tell all of the other Agents other than those who are willing to assist him or he will be caught and fired.Exactly. If your agents are caught in corruption, will the entire FBI be to blame?
Still interested to see the evidence. I haven't received a personal message from you.
Exactly. If your agents are caught in corruption, will the entire FBI be to blame?
just like how Gvardia leadership didn't seem to exercise any sufficient active effort to prevent fraud from guilty Gvardia members, then yes. An organization is represented best by its leadership.I find it funny how you through insults, disrespect and provoke at gvardia, and you also fail to back up your own talk with any sort of proof or evidence
I find it funny how you through insults, disrespect and provoke at gvardia, and you also fail to back up your own talk with any sort of proof or evidence
the FBI Director allows the corruption to go onAll hail Violet Corleone :cop:
Until Gvardia is proven innocent, I will have to agree with the Oscar verdict.Yes, guilty until proven innocent. That is how the law- oh wait :redface:
Yes, guilty until proven innocent. That is how the law- oh wait :redface:That actually depends on the country.
Still interested to see the evidence. I haven't received a personal message from you.
>Implying he has evidenceStop trolling topics.
Stop trolling topics.> Implying SugarD has no idea of what the term 'trolling' means
> Implying SugarD has no idea of what the term 'trolling' meansJust learn to imply and quit while you're ahead.
:roll:
a person or group is assumed guilty until evidence can be presented that proves otherwise.And what of the evidence that suggested their guilt in the first place?
And what of the evidence that suggested their guilt in the first place?
That's a question only Giac or any others with the evidence can answer.
a person or group is assumed guilty until evidence can be presented that proves otherwise. Innocent Until Proven Guilty does not apply to every single aspect of decision making.
disqualifying them based on rumours or false testimony is pretty pathetic and immature.My guess is that he is disqualifying both 58th and Gvardia because he saw Gvardia members vote for Gvardia, and Gvardia members vote for 58th.
The above are truly the saddest people in the world, who would to go such lengths to secure a virtual award they obviously didn't work hard enough for.The above is truly the saddest person in the world, who would to go such lengths to secure that Gvardia doesn't get a virtual award out of personal grudges he's displayed over the past two years.
GiacJr has one week to unveil the evidence to me, a Gvardia leader, before higher ups are brought to intervene. That is, if there is any in the first place.1. Don't double post. Use the edit button.
My guess is that he is disqualifying both 58th and Gvardia because he saw Gvardia members vote for Gvardia, and Gvardia members vote for 58th.
58th lives just across the street from Gvardia. We've clearly witnessed their roleplay abilities firsthand; something Giac refuses to realize and chooses to base his reasoning off of invalid "hints" his mind may have come up with rather than justice.
I've always wondered why Giac was left unbanned.
2. He made up the Oscars. He doesn't have to allow anyone if he doesn't want to. It's his personal thing.Giac did not make the Oscars and had no part in making any of this years awards, he was just chosen to count them, probably as he counted them last year (which took 3-4 months).
1. Don't double post. Use the edit button.
2. He made up the Oscars. He doesn't have to allow anyone if he doesn't want to. It's his personal thing.
If a group is disqualified I would like to see the evidence that the group as a whole broke the rules.:?:
:?:Maybe Gandalf has seen this information. He never said it had to be publicized or given to the people being disqualified.
Maybe Gandalf has seen this information. He never said it had to be publicized or given to the people being disqualified.that irelevant bcos ur point 2 = in validasian :cop:
@Que: It's not personal to me at all. I said don't double post because someone actually double-posted. If you're worried about someone locking the topic, I'm honestly surprised someone hasn't yet. It's been moderated several times already.
that irelevant bcos ur point 2 = in validasian :cop:Your entire post was irrelevant because you failed to make an argument, or spell half your words correctly.
It takes days to make fake evidence guys, be patient please...
Gvardia, make court case? :)Is it really something that can be sued for?
Is it really something that can be sued for?If you feel that you have been judged unfairly I suppose you could. Dunno if Giac would be active enough to actually respond to it though
It takes days to make fake evidence guys, be patient please...hahhaa, you speak the truth.
It takes days to make fake evidence guys, be patient please...Good one. :lol:
Your entire post was irrelevant because you failed to make an argument, or spell half your words correctly.my post is irelelevant bcos i question flaw in ur post were u state giacjr and can dq without evidance ... ?
my post is irelelevant bcos i question flaw in ur post were u state giacjr and can dq without evidance ... ?Actually he can. He's doing the count. In fact, he did. Get over yourself. You're only making the issue bigger than it is instead of maturely PM'ing him to DISCUSS the issue POLITELY.
take a brake man :rofl:
You're only making the issue bigger than it is instead of maturely PM'ing him to DISCUSS the issue POLITELY.I believe they tried that, and recieved no reply.
DISCUSS the issue POLITELY.
PM'ing him
ITS A f**kING GAME!!!!!!!! IF YOU DONT WIN A LITTLE f**kING PICTURE OF A TROPHY THEN PUT ONE AS YOUR f**kING AVATAR! GOD DAMN KIDS THESE DAYS bad girlING ABOUT EVERYTHING
award for 09 when people didnt bad girl and moan and troll about everything... oh how times have changedyou are here since late 2009, what do you even know about "times"
award for 09 when people didnt bad girl and moan and troll about everything... oh how times have changedWho the hell are you anyways?
You're only making the issue bigger than it is instead of maturely PM'ing him to DISCUSS the issue POLITELY.Tried it. He's ignored every single last one of us because he "does not like" us.
Tried that, look at the first page.Then be patient and stop freaking out. Obviously if Giac hasn't been active on the forums to do any counting or updating, he's not going to be active to read your PM's either!
Done that, haven't received anything back.
It was a month ago.
Then be patient and stop freaking out. Obviously if Giac hasn't been active on the forums to do any counting or updating, he's not going to be active to read your PM's either!Not to boot in the conversation here, but then why tell them to do that if its obvious no response is going to happen?
Then be patient and stop freaking out. Obviously if Giac hasn't been active on the forums to do any counting or updating, he's not going to be active to read your PM's either!
Then be patient and stop freaking out. Obviously if Giac hasn't been active on the forums to do any counting or updating, he's not going to be active to read your PM's either!To be fair, he was on the forums like 4 days ago.
More than half of the SAMP Script are not commands, but rather measures to protect the commands from abuse.
More than 50% of our script lines are to defend the commands from people trying to take advantage.
The one problem here, was Gandalf choosing you to handle the damn oscars. You are biased. That is all I can say. I've been asking you for over a month to investigate my shit, and when I asked you in game to, you gave me all BS about how you won't do it.Explain how Giac was stupid enough to accept evidence without:
Here you can see that you don't like me, therefor you don't give a shit about my disqualification being investigated or not.
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Yeah, explains everything there, how about I show the "clear" evidence of how I "Cheated" for votes.
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Mhm... clear bull shit. Which probably had something to do with this.
I find it very funny, you DQ the groups that were going to win an oscar, but what ever. The evidence if you're going to DQ any group should be showed to the public, unless ofcourse your only evidence is going through the votes and claiming the groups have asked for votes because they got so much for you to count. You're full of bull shit.
If people did not cheat in their voting, the results should have been announced long ago.Gandalf asked 2 weeks ago, for proofs of Me, Eugene, Killar, Leon (as leaders of Gvardia) , and 58th Connecta Leaders "scamming". Since I know there is none, cause none of us did it, and I'm 99 percent sure its the same with 58th Connecta, the whole saga is over.
Giac has the trust of the Owners until they rule otherwise.
Gandalf asked 2 weeks ago, for proofs of Me, Eugene, Killar, Leon (as leaders of Gvardia) , and 58th Connecta Leaders "scamming". Since I know there is none, cause none of us did it, and I'm 99 percent sure its the same with 58th Connecta, the whole saga is over.Actually he asked for proof that your GROUPS were scamming, not you personally, so no, you don't know 100% for sure that one of your members didn't cheat the system. It doesn't necessarily mean you are at fault as a group, but someone could've just as easily ruined it for all of you.
Actually he asked for proof that your GROUPS were scamming, not you personally, so no, you don't know 100% for sure that one of your members didn't cheat the system. It doesn't necessarily mean you are at fault as a group, but someone could've just as easily ruined it for all of you.Yes, but only the leaders cheating could disqualify the entire group.
Yes, but only the leaders cheating could disqualify the entire group.Exactly what I meant.
Leaders are responsible for both the group and for the members. Members are not responsible for the group.
ITT: Groups get trolled by GiacJr.Hypocrisy at it's best.
Hypocrisy at it's best.hypocrisy at it is best?
hypocrisy at it is best?Too much time spending with Serbians.. :D
Then why did many members of Gvardia and 58th start voting for each other in such an organized manner... even if a group is a group, that does not mean the majority of its members think exactly the same.
Then why did many members of Gvardia and 58th start voting for each other in such an organized manner... even if a group is a group, that does not mean the majority of its members think exactly the same.How about stop guessing and thinking and GIVE US SOME MATERIAL PROOFS.
Then why did many members of Gvardia and 58th start voting for each other in such an organized manner... even if a group is a group, that does not mean the majority of its members think exactly the same.Don't spread bullshit.
Why don't you guys just drop the damn arguing and wait for something to happen?Something concern you here ? NO ! So please as long as we havent received any evidences that shows how we got DQ'd we will just keep asking for them...but people like you start arguing just in order to argue...what you are doing now is asking yourself.so yeah drop it and let the people involved take care of it.thanks
Why don't you guys just drop the damn arguing and wait for something to happen?
why are you even here? you are not involved in this whole "thing"
> Implying SugarD has no idea of what the term 'trolling' means
:roll:
Why don't you guys just drop the damn arguing and wait for something to happen?
hypocrisy at it is best?accident.
Then why did many members of Gvardia and 58th start voting for each other in such an organized manner... even if a group is a group, that does not mean the majority of its members think exactly the same.I knew someone would ask this...
accident.I knew someone would ask this...Couldnt say it better,Mr Leon.
58th:
1. is an active roleplay-dedicated group
2. is the only group that bothers to go into San Fierro and roleplay with us
3. is the only group that roleplayed to our members' standards
4. is really tight with us (a lot of the members there were in Gvardia, one of Gvardia's allies, or were tight with us to begin with)
5. keeps close contact with us
6. is the group we recommend applicants for Gvardia to apply for in order to increase their roleplay capabilities and knowledge
7. is the only Los Santos-based gang whose mission is anything but targeting Gvardia and taking pictures of each time they confront one in order to brag about it to their friends
58th could say number 3, 4, and 5 word-for-word to describe us too.
Must I mention, monkey-see-monkey-do? Gvardia members (including myself) learn by observing.
Is that justifiable enough, or must I start using harsh sarcasm to get it through people's heads? The only evidence Giac has is the hunch that Gvardia members HAPPEN to vote for 58th and 58th members HAPPEN to vote for Gvardia. This could be related to the "return the favor concept." Member votes for 58th > another member votes for 58th > 58th member sees vote > 58th member votes for Gvardia > 58th members jump in > Gvardia members jump in. No contact at all regarding the votes. Any hard evidence he may have is clearly fake.
I'm so sure that Gvardia and its leaders were not involved in cheating that I, a leader of Gvardia, am willing to surrender Gvardia's official status and even have the group closed if the integrity of the evidence (if any) meets my standards.
I a leader of Gvardia, am willing to surrender Gvardia's official status and even have the group closed if the integrity of the evidence (if any) meets my standards.
Just a question, how high are your standards or expectations?Simple, evidence of Me, Eugene, Leon, Killar, Xander, Murtaugh, cheating/asking for votes/ or w/e you call it. Which We all know there is no any.
Just a question, how high are your standards or expectations?Pretty low.
i sent Gandalf evidence and obviously he was content with the evidence or else he'd have publicly stated that the groups mentioned were not at fault
Just show us the evidence. I don' understand what you're hiding, really.as much as i despise you and your mates, in every role i've had in Argonath i've had to remain impartial and act equally towards everyone; hence, i've counted votes and decided on DQ's fairly and with due care and respect, and any suggestions that I have acted otherwise is slanderous and I'll be having discussions with the server owners to have your posting rights revoked in that case.
you don't deserve any attention from me
as much as i despise you and your mates, in every role i've had in Argonath i've had to remain impartial and act equally towards everyone; hence, i've counted votes and decided on DQ's fairly and with due care and respect, and any suggestions that I have acted otherwise is slanderous and I'll be having discussions with the server owners to have your posting rights revoked in that case.
Just show us the evidence. I don' understand what you're hiding, really.
Good luck counting those votes.
And I thought it'd be right to publicly humiliate the people/groups involved in the cheating because what they've done is just sad and low.if it is right to publicly "humiliate" the cheaters, then why you dont show us the evidence publicly (or even privately in that matter)
if it is right to publicly "humiliate" the cheaters, then why you dont show us the evidence publicly (or even privately in that matter)He only publicized the result of his investigation, not the evidence behind it. Cops do the same thing IRL when a case goes public.
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If Gandalf has the evidence, why couldn't of he had posted it here and closed the topic to stop all the fighting?Maybe because he has better things to deal with than users complaining over a made-up awards system that is only intended to exist for fun, and is by no means obligated to grant you an award?
Maybe because he has better things to deal with than users complaining over a made-up awards system that is only intended to exist for fun, and is by no means obligated to grant you an award?Your nameis Giac ? NO
Maybe because he has better things to deal with than users complaining over a made-up awards system that is only intended to exist for fun, and is by no means obligated to grant you an award?Lol. He deals with things on Argonath, and this is one of them. And practically everything is made-up :) So that shouldn't be a problem to have been done.
POR FAVOR stop existing here
Oh and SugarD, this isn't RL, it's a video game.Thanks Captain Obvious. That was my point.
Why are people blindly supporting Giac?
Are you retarded?
WHEN its the cerimony ?Next year
Why are people blindly supporting Giac? You'd seen absolutely no evidence whatsoever and almost every time he has made a comment it has been an immaturely phrased provocatory flame post.Maybe because these are fictitious awards, he has been in community leadership for a very long time and is well trusted, and because HE is the one doing the counting. No one is obligated to an award, and for the record, if you read every single page you'd actually realize that the situation is contrary to your statement. Most people have been supporting those that allegedly cheated, not the person counting.
It worries me how strong the personal hatred of some members and groups evidently is that you will blindly go against them with absolutely no real reason.
Most people have been supporting those that allegedly cheated, not the person counting.I realise that, but it still surprises me that there are some that choose to blindly support him even after him expressing some of his more inappropriate opinions in relation to the disqualified members and groups.
Next yearok
as much as i despise you and your mates, in every role i've had in Argonath i've had to remain impartial and act equally towards everyone; hence, i've counted votes and decided on DQ's fairly and with due care and respect, and any suggestions that I have acted otherwise is slanderous and I'll be having discussions with the server owners to have your posting rights revoked in that case.Cut the bullshit and send the evidence. You're clearly biased, seeing as you refused to reply to Antonio (as seen in the screenshot, which was real, unlike the evidence that disqualified him), who you don't like, regarding a matter where each side is impartial.
Maybe because these are fictitious awards, he has been in community leadership for a very long time and is well trusted, and because HE is the one doing the counting. No one is obligated to an award, and for the record, if you read every single page you'd actually realize that the situation is contrary to your statement. Most people have been supporting those that allegedly cheated, not the person counting.You've obviously missed the butthurt meltdowns Giac has experienced between 2009 and present day.
Maybe because he has better things to deal with than users complaining over a made-up awards system that is only intended to exist for fun, and is by no means obligated to grant you an award?This isn't about awards. This is about the level that Giac has stooped to, and how much we are "son i am disappoint" at him.
It's not like this is the most important thing, but I frankly don't believe a shit that there's evidence. That's why I keep on replying.
I mean, if there is, show us; and the whole procedure's over. But somehow, it's very hard to do so for Giac. It's sixteen pages now, still no evidence shown.
We will see if he can beat his previous record of 3 months :DIt's gonna be close!
Dutchy, none of my posts has been moaning, check them one after one. But right should be right, that's something I've struggled to get here.
If your friend cheated on your girlfriend, you want evidence before you hurt the guy.
If you got arrested by a cop, you want receive the evidence against you before you confess.
If people call you a cheater, you want to see the things that you might have cheated.
If you get offended by someone, you want to know why.
It might be just me, but I'm from a place where you don't judge people before you've seen the opposite part.
You give respect until the opposite has been shown. I might have been a dick before, but I've done everything I can to change,
..and if it's so hard to just be a man and hand out the evidence that disqualified us from the awards, then I will end this long-lasting argument which doesn't lead any further.
I've done what I could.
Dutchy, none of my posts has been moaning, check them one after one. But right should be right, that's something I've struggled to get here.
If your friend cheated on your girlfriend, you want evidence before you hurt the guy.
If you got arrested by a cop, you want receive the evidence against you before you confess.
If people call you a cheater, you want to see the things that you might have cheated.
If you get offended by someone, you want to know why.
It might be just me, but I'm from a place where you don't judge people before you've seen the opposite part.
You give respect until the opposite has been shown. I might have been a dick before, but I've done everything I can to change,
..and if it's so hard to just be a man and hand out the evidence that disqualified us from the awards, then I will end this long-lasting argument which doesn't lead any further.
I've done what I could.
f**king combo breakerHe was talking to you. Quick ****ing spamming the forum!
One common answer; Drop it.He can post some "evidence" or stop bsing. Since there is none in Gvardia case, I ain't gonna allow some clearly biased person, who's not even part of the community no more (in his own words), to take piss on mine, and my friends hard work during the whole 2010, not to to mention, deleting the opinion and votes from majority of our Community.
By making Giac show evidence, which he most likely hasn't planned on (excuse me if I'm wrong) and making him post comebacks on your argument is only going to decrease the speed of counting the votes. Again; Drop it.
*jumps out*
He was talking to you. Quick ****ing spamming the forum!He was making a joke. Quit fucking spamming the forum.
Jeezuz. This topic shows how much maturity is left in this community...It's not the community, it's you.
Jeezuz. This topic shows how much maturity is left in this community...
For christmas, I'd like a red firetruck.
A discussion is something where both parties work their way to achieve a solution.. This however, is going nowhere!
Use the forums to have a proper discussion..
A discussion is something where both parties work their way to achieve a solution.. This however, is going nowhere!
Use the forums to have a proper discussion..
A discussion is something where both parties work their way to achieve a solution.. This however, is going nowhere!The other party in this case, Giac, is refusing to post anything at all. No discussion can take place if Giac refuses to justify his actions whatsoever.
Use the forums to have a proper discussion..
To all of you against Giac, there's one question.
If the evidence Gandalf was presented with was clearly invalid or fake, then why didn't he state publicly in order to clear up the discussion?
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Will you stop posting same old same old, and then us answering same old same old, and starting 10 different debates at once in one topic?
If the evidence Gandalf was presented with was clearly invalid or fake, then why didn't he state publicly in order to clear up the discussion?What if Giac is bullshitting about sending the evidence to Gandalf? :)
What if Giac is bullshitting about sending the evidence to Gandalf? :)
By this point, Gandalf would have posted the equivalent to "Everyone, shut the f**k up, the evidence is <insert valid/invalid>, /locked"
Giac takes his time, and if i would be him, i would even stop counting, look at all the bullshitting.yea u is kool thas why you're not Giac
And yet the spamming continues. Topic lock anyone?You really like locking topics don't you?
so keep your language in check and wait for an official statement about the Oscars..
Giac takes his time, and if i would be him, i would even stop counting, look at all the bullshitting.Yeah right, No shit ...
If this was the case, Gandalf would've locked the topic as soon as he saw this and discredit GiacJr for spreading bullshit.
But it hasn't, so keep your language in check and wait for an official statement about the Oscars..
And yet the spamming continues. Topic lock anyone?
hej .
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lol giac
But it hasn't, so keep your language in checkNo, how about we compromise.
If this was the case, Gandalf would've locked the topic as soon as he saw this and discredit GiacJr for spreading bullshit.
But it hasn't, so keep your language in check and wait for an official statement about the Oscars..
And yet the spamming continues. Topic lock anyone?
Sugar Daddy, We've got the message. You don't need to say the same thing over and over again, because we already got the point. Please leave your maturity intact and let this topic be.
If this was the case, Gandalf would've locked the topic as soon as he saw this and discredit GiacJr for spreading bullshit.
But it hasn't, so keep your language in check and wait for an official statement about the Oscars..
And yet the spamming continues. Topic lock anyone?
The only person posting the same continous and useless posts is you.
Jack please. Shut the f**k up