Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Flakattak_88 on February 12, 2011, 11:10:23 pm
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Today, I stole a hydra from the FBI because they were surrounding an ancelotti in a building. I was about to shoot the owner with it. and before it happened he removed it. grand theft auto is an RP. Was he allowed to remove it, or was it script abuse?
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This was an antirp Measure.
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They should never let you reach the airplane - they should be responsible for its misuse instead of removing them...
Instead of calling an hydra to each armoured criminal they should think twice before putting such plane on the server - if it was me, I'd just fire against them :razz:.
But... that's just an opinion - wait for owners
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Did you roleplay snatching the keys off FBI Agent EdwardC?
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No Roleplay was done,
And to make it clear we can remove it to stop abuse of u killing around.
my samp client logs :
[03:42:01] <Flaken_Ancelotti> (25) No one was in it, he was beside it trying to snipe
[03:42:10] <Flaken_Ancelotti> (25) and while he was in a scope, i stole it
[03:42:23] <Flaken_Ancelotti> (25) and I was going to shoot him with it
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You don't need to RP stealing something...
Clear abuse of taking it away, you could have chased him down in another one.
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You were about to shoot edward, WHILE you were a civilian and helping your friends?
A) Thats cop hunt, you may not engage if you're not a suspect
B) Highjacking is against rules and its a serious offense
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I see taking away the unattended Hydra by despawning it with a command, same type of 'abuse' as /q'ing when someone takes your car/plane. :neutral:
@Louis
It wasn't direct jacking the Hydra off a fed as I can see from the story. As for shooting the rockets... well, who wouldn't :roll:
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You were about to shoot edward, WHILE you were a civilian and helping your friends?
A) Thats cop hunt, you may not engage if you're not a suspect
What..
So, if I see my friends engaged in a shootout or something and they have no car, I can't be a getaway drive? You smell that? It's bullshit.
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Clear script abuse.
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Don't tell me what I see in the screenshot, you leaving a hydra unsecured while you go AFK or BRB.
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We are under obligation to ensure the hydra is not abused, especially by malevolent individuals like Flak. Even on spawning the hydra, the spawner receives a server message "Hydra deployed, DO NOT let it get abused". Screenies can be provided if you want it.
Also, anyone who steals hydra deserves to die. I personally see to that.
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We are under obligation to ensure the hydra is not abused, especially by malevolent individuals like Flak. Even on spawning the hydra, the spawner receives a server message "Hydra deployed, DO NOT let it get abused". Screenies can be provided if you want it.
Also, anyone who steals hydra deserves to die. I personally see to that.
omggg racist.
I mean I probably can't ever do that again in my life.
So what if I am maleviolent? you think I would go to pershing and fire missiles at everyone? |:
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You complain about his non-rp, yet did you even roleplay taking the keys of the hydra or in roleplay terms do you even know how to fly it? although even if you did he still would have removed it or he would have been in trouble. This is a catch 22 situation.
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You complain about his non-rp, yet did you even roleplay taking the keys of the hydra or in roleplay terms do you even know how to fly it? although even if you did he still would have removed it or he would have been in trouble. This is a catch 22 situation.
Who said I complain about non-rp? you got the wrong person.
And if I rp, he will metagame and easily take the Hydra or remove it. I was trying to be sneaky. so why kill someone and then tell the cops you killed him and expect the cops to not care?
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If you're going to be a cunt and leave the Hydra unattended you should have to suffer the consequences. If the person who spawns it is retarded enough to not stay in it and leave it unattended they should no be allowed to spawn it.
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I hope the FBI will severely punish the agent for letting a Hydra unattended, thus needing to activate the cloaking device to protect from civil use. Loss of his spawn rights would be appropriate.
Not letting the Hydra be abused means a pilot should be present in it and active at all time. Dumping it because you fail is script abuse.
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Seems like Gandalf pointed the things out and cleared the things out about this matter.
Lock this topic now :)?
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I hope the FBI will severely punish the agent for letting a Hydra unattended, thus needing to activate the cloaking device to protect from civil use. Loss of his spawn rights would be appropriate.
Not letting the Hydra be abused means a pilot should be present in it and active at all time. Dumping it because you fail is script abuse.
OMG I WANT MY HYDRA BACK );
I just want to RIIIIIIIDE it, and mingle with itttttt
If I twist it up enough, can you ban him for DM? he removed it and I died. SO HE DMED ME WITH A COMMAND
I say redo the RP and gief haidra and mak gief mak suspect and i mak go jajajaj123123123123
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Lock this topic now :)?
No.
Loss of his spawn rights would be appropriate.
We'd like to see this and here what EdwardC has to say for himself now THE NOTORIOUS RONNEL has laid down the law.
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Seems like Gandalf pointed the things out and cleared the things out about this matter.
Lock this topic now :)?
Lock this post, point cleared out by ollie
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In the first place,the one who spawned/manage/is flying the hydra is RESPONSIBLE for any thing that happens to the hydra. Leaving the hydra unattended then a player steals it, your fault at the beggining. Unless you are flying it then someone hijacks you, that's rulebreak. 'Great powers come with great responsibility'
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All you had to do was /su him. Suspected players can't drive hunter/hydra for some reason.. Must be a bug, doesn't seem very logical. :D
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'Great powers come with great responsibility'
Bulllllshiiiiiiit. all he had to do is sit down in his hydra. I could of done that for him ;)
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No.
We'd like to see this and here what EdwardC has to say for himself now THE NOTORIOUS RONNEL has laid down the law.
It seems that he was following FBI procedures, so EdwardC is not at fault... whoever made the FBI procedure should check it against server rules.
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It seems that he was following FBI procedures, so EdwardC is not at fault... whoever made the FBI procedure should check it against server rules.
The FBI is practically just a criminal group with support from the server, YOU should just remove the hydra. with the ability to DB with m4, beagle would be perfect for air suspect. and for nrg suspects, get another nrg or infernus and DB.
oshit turning this into idea section. nono i no mak mawn.
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If you're going to be a cunt and leave the Hydra unattended you should have to suffer the consequences. If the person who spawns it is retarded enough to not stay in it and leave it unattended they should no be allowed to spawn it.
i love you :girl:
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Learn to roleplay, quite obvious.
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Anyone involed who claims this is non-rp is a hypocritical moron. You left the hydra unatained, an associate of the criminal you were pesueing hijacked it from under your nose so you remove it with a command? That seems very bullshit. If you had any roleplay sense you'd have jumped for cover and started shooting at it. The way I see it, the 'cops' who were using it shouldn't be allowed to use it as it was available to be stolen by a criminally-associated civilian. It's your own fault for leaving it unattended, if you're irresponsable and retarded enough to let it get jacked by a civilian then you deserve to be blown to shit.
The person responsable for allowing the hydra to be jacked by a civilian should not be trusted with pepper spray nevermind an assault aircraft. The rights to the spawn command are obviously being too easily issued.
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Romeo, thing you pointed out the things that had to be said. Maybe to harsh, but true everything.
I agree.
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If you had any roleplay sense you'd have jumped for cover and started shooting at it.
If you had any roleplay sense you'd run away instead of shooting at a weapon of (almost) mass destruction.
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If you had any roleplay sense you'd run away instead of shooting a weapon of (almost) mass destruction.
If you had any common sense you wouldn't provoke people over an Internet forum, so stop with that.
Requesting this lock since it starting to be a argument topic.
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If you had any roleplay sense you'd run away instead of shooting a weapon of (almost) mass destruction.
That seems like the pussies option. Get some nuts.
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Get some nuts.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BZiFWpQxHaM/0.jpg)
If you had any common sense you wouldn't provoke people over an Internet forum, so stop with that.
Do I know you?
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(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BZiFWpQxHaM/0.jpg)Do I know you?
I'm glad you understand.
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If you had any common sense you wouldn't provoke people over an Internet forum, so stop with that.
Requesting this lock since it starting to be a argument topic.
Murtaugh please leave my thread alone with the lock stuff |:
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Murtaugh please leave my thread alone with the lock stuff |:
The sadly truth is that my bottom line there is true.
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We are under obligation to ensure the hydra is not abused, especially by malevolent individuals like Flak. Even on spawning the hydra, the spawner receives a server message "Hydra deployed, DO NOT let it get abused". Screenies can be provided if you want it.
Also, anyone who steals hydra deserves to die. I personally see to that.
lol, kaptain obvious is on da track.
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Clear script abuse.
Did you roleplay snatching the keys off FBI Agent EdwardC?
No Roleplay was done,
That would be like saying cops have to roleplay carjacking a suspect to stop them. Furthermore, Gandalf said in the SAMP guide that this would be an overuse of /me as there is an animation to depict this action already therefore you are not obliged to use /me steals the keys off Edward to gain access to the Hydra if it is being left unattended by the pilot.
And to make it clear we can remove it to stop abuse of u killing around.
The admins are the players responsible for the prevention of script abuse, not the FBI.
You were about to shoot edward, WHILE you were a civilian and helping your friends?
A) Thats cop hunt, you may not engage if you're not a suspect
B) Highjacking is against rules and its a serious offense
[03:42:01] <Flaken_Ancelotti> (25) No one was in it, he was beside it trying to snipe
You need to read the rules again and need to acclimatise yourself to reading and comprehension on a wider level too. You are allowed to attack a cop if he is aiming at you as the cop is engaging. Civilians nor suspects 'engage', however if a cop aims at somebody, suspect or civilian they are engaging and therefore can be attacked.
There is no such thing as 'highjacking' on this server as there are no passenger planes, it is not a server rule and not a serious offense. Carjacking is a crime if it is without the consent of the driver. Edward was not in the driver position and had already engaged, Flaken would have been able to carjack the Hydra with Edward inside it as Edward had engaged by aiming his sniper rifle in his direction which is a belligerent thing to do.
Flaken could also have shot down the Hydra whilst Edward was trying to flee because it is Edward's fault for engaging, Flaken may have decided to use the Hydra to his own advantage due to the carelessness of Edward and had every right to blast Edward after gaining control of the Hydra though it would have been cophunting if he was to actively pursue cops who were not engaging against him.
I don't understand why the Hydra/Hunter are not allowed to be used by suspects, they cannot be called in by them hence can only use them as a direct result of negligent behaviour from a highly ranked cop. There should be disciplinary action taken against Edward for bringing the FBI into disrepute and being negligent in addition to aiming at a civilian and being disciplined by administration for his abuse of scripts. This is an equivalent abuse of scripts as the repeated abuse of /weaponequip by former FBI Agent Lite.
We are under obligation to ensure the hydra is not abused, especially by malevolent individuals like Flak. Even on spawning the hydra, the spawner receives a server message "Hydra deployed, DO NOT let it get abused". Screenies can be provided if you want it.
Also, anyone who steals hydra deserves to die. I personally see to that.
The admins are the players responsible for the prevention of script abuse, not the FBI. You are in no position to be prejudical and label someone as malevolent either.
I see taking away the unattended Hydra by despawning it with a command, same type of 'abuse' as /q'ing when someone takes your car/plane. :neutral:
Clear script abuse.
If you're going to be a cunt and leave the Hydra unattended you should have to suffer the consequences. If the person who spawns it is retarded enough to not stay in it and leave it unattended they should no be allowed to spawn it.
In the first place,the one who spawned/manage/is flying the hydra is RESPONSIBLE for any thing that happens to the hydra. Leaving the hydra unattended then a player steals it, your fault at the beggining. Unless you are flying it then someone hijacks you, that's rulebreak. 'Great powers come with great responsibility'
I hope the FBI will severely punish the agent for letting a Hydra unattended, thus needing to activate the cloaking device to protect from civil use. Loss of his spawn rights would be appropriate.
Not letting the Hydra be abused means a pilot should be present in it and active at all time. Dumping it because you fail is script abuse.
Indeed. So when are his rights going to be removed and/or admin punishment for the abuse of scripts?
although even if you did he still would have removed it or he would have been in trouble. This is a catch 22 situation.
Yes, it is a catch twenty-two situation nonetheless it is entirely Edward's fault for letting it become one - he should suffer the repercussions of his negligent actions and not comprimise server rules by abusing scripts to avoid death here. At the very least, he could have tried to jack the Hydra back.
It seems that he was following FBI procedures, so EdwardC is not at fault... whoever made the FBI procedure should check it against server rules.
The FBI procedure tells the FBI to ensure the Hydra is not abused, this would mean to stay in the Hydra and not leave it unattended. It did not mean abuse scripts to do so - this means that the FBI procedure is correct but Edward is at fault for breaking server rules. The comparison to this would be suspects, whose aim is to escape from the cops using speed hacks to get away from the cops. What this topic has shown that the recall function of the Hydra/Hunter is a useless command and it should be removed and to remove a Hydra or a Hunter, it should be destroyed.
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The sadly truth is that my bottom line there is true.
I srsly dont know if you are trying to troll with the lock topic stuff, but imo it is a very good way to troll, I am srs
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I srsly dont know if you are trying to troll with the lock topic stuff, but imo it is a very good way to troll, I am srs
I am not a troll and are not trolling, just looking in the future.
Topics like this always get way out of hand.
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Problem was solved on the second page, so why do you guys even continue arguing?
Just look at the 2nd page lol
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guys i got an idea lets keep arguing over a situation which has already gotten answered by server owner
I hope the FBI will severely punish the agent for letting a Hydra unattended, thus needing to activate the cloaking device to protect from civil use. Loss of his spawn rights would be appropriate.
Not letting the Hydra be abused means a pilot should be present in it and active at all time. Dumping it because you fail is script abuse.
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guys i got an idea lets keep arguing over a situation which has already gotten answered by server owner
He later said Edward is not at fault at all, making your quote completely useless.
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Does this mean I get my hydra back? {}:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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He later said Edward is not at fault at all, making your quote completely useless.
That is right, Gandalf made his descision. And you can not override that, how much you want it.
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LOL..it's funny when people use RP when they need it only...
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The admins are the players responsible for the prevention of script abuse, not the FBI.
As much as I hate giving bits and pieces of info from the FBI forums, let alone a restricted High-Ranked board, this should be enough to clear the abuse question for everyone.
Hydra should not be given the chance to be abused
As the FBI have access to the hydra, it means that they also have the responsibility to ensure that it does not get abused. Admins are not the only people on the server who possess responsibilities.
For a comparison criminals can relate with... it is like the rights to command the members of a criminal group. Sensible leaders don't hand out their group's authoritative positions to just anyone, let alone people who they know will use it to order the group's junior members to go on a DM spree.
Lastly, I stated that Flak's intentions were malevolent as he himself admitting to intent to use the hydra, in order to shoot at the owner and help his criminal friends... no one else knew what he could have done afterwards had Edward not removed it.
While Edward was in mistake by leaving his hydra unattended, he managed to prevent further abuse by removing it via script. Notice how the people supporting Flak stealing a hydra are the ones who would probably use it for DM purposes or revenge on cops.
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Notice how the people supporting Flak stealing a hydra are the ones who would probably use it for DM purposes or revenge on cops.
Since the hydra is entirely a DM tool, I fail to see how anyone could use it for anything except DM purposes.
And yes, of course we would use it against the cops, I thought that was a given.
Anyway, this topic ended a long time ago. Gandalf pointed out who was at fault, and that was the end of it.
Requesting lock and stuff.
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What I'm wondering is why he would use a Hydra in a barricaded suspects situation.
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Since the hydra is entirely a DM tool, I fail to see how anyone could use it for anything except DM purposes.
When a suspect passes by a cop and goes out of his way to kill the cop "because he was close enough to be a threat", it's self-defense.
When a hydra blasts down a legitimate target, it's DM and abuse.
Yeah...
And yes, of course we would use it against the cops, I thought that was a given.
I'm not sure about the SAPD, but FBI doesn't use the hydra on every damned orange dot. Your confession is one of the prime reasons why it's even restricted in the first place.
But anyways, my last post in this topic.
Anyway, this topic ended a long time ago. Gandalf pointed out who was at fault, and that was the end of it.
Requesting lock and stuff.
What I'm wondering is why he would use a Hydra in a barricaded suspects situation.
That is what I have to ask Edward.
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If I had the hydra, I would dm you. OOOH OWNEEED OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOH
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Why should an FBI agent be able to evade the immediate consequences of his fuck-up, but nobody else can? Obviously, he's going to get his ass whooped by FBI staff, but he never suffered the consequences at the situation itself.
I leave my car unattended a lot and it gets stolen. Please give me ability to despawn it any time I want.
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Cant they lock them? Anyways, bringing a hydra to a situation like this only shows the FBI's "professionalism". Good english grammar, long training and pretty hard to become a member of does not make them professional when it is needed. Also what Edward did was stupid.
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I leave my car unattended a lot and it gets stolen. Please give me ability to despawn it any time I want.
> /q or force timeout, but then again you know this better than me ;)
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I leave my car unattended a lot and it gets stolen. Please give me ability to despawn it any time I want.
The Hydra is a public vehicle (spawnable) so that means it's not lock-able (Unless with admin command, but that would be abuse)
Private Vehicle owners have the ability to ensure the safety of their vehicle via 2 ways; Either /carlock = Locks driver spot, or /carlock 2 (or /carlock2)
Car lock 2 does lock the vehicle entirely so nobody can get in even from passenger seats ;)
That is what I have to ask Edward.
I guess he was patrolling in it, when the call came in?
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Why should he even patrol in a mass destruction weapon?
He can do like everyone else, get a bloody car. FBI Rancher, FBI Premier or his own vechiles since FBI are allowed to use them.
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So, what we've concluded from this.
If any FBI agent fucks up, leaving the hydra open, and someone takes it, they aren't allowed to abuse the command as stated by Gandalf, but the cops are still like 'nah bro, it's not even abuse he could've dmed with it' No shit sherlock. What Flaken did was normal and he should've shot the fuck out of every person at the scene.
tyty.
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First time I go back on a "last post" post.
So, what we've concluded from this.
If any FBI agent f**ks up, leaving the hydra open, and someone takes it, they aren't allowed to abuse the command as stated by Gandalf, but the cops are still like 'nah bro, it's not even abuse he could've dmed with it' No shit sherlock. What Flaken did was normal and he should've shot the f**k out of every person at the scene.
tyty.
Why should an FBI agent be able to evade the immediate consequences of his f**k-up, but nobody else can? Obviously, he's going to get his ass whooped by FBI staff, but he never suffered the consequences at the situation itself.
I leave my car unattended a lot and it gets stolen. Please give me ability to despawn it any time I want.
So I take it both of you endorse malevolent abuse of the hydra by Flaken who will use it to DM plenty of people on the server?
That's exactly what the dump commands were made for.
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JDC, bro, you have yet to realize you can't abuse a command like that, it's script abuse = ban. You can't just go "Well, I f**ked up, now to abuse a command to make it better'. It's Edwards fault he left it unattended and he had to suffer the consequences. but, he abused a command and now he seems to be in more shit.
I hope the FBI will severely punish the agent for letting a Hydra unattended, thus needing to activate the cloaking device to protect from civil use. Loss of his spawn rights would be appropriate.
Not letting the Hydra be abused means a pilot should be present in it and active at all time. Dumping it because you fail is script abuse.
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So you would rather see somebody flying around in a hydra DMing innocent players?
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Yes.
To let know, the DMer will not be the only one at fault.
Also, using a command like this is just the same as kicking someone off server just because he thinks bad of you.
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So you would rather see somebody flying around in a hydra DMing innocent players?
No because the DMer would be punished for breaking the server rules.
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Also, using a command like this is just the same as kicking someone off server just because he thinks bad of you.
You forgot one major difference. Somebody with negative thoughts about an admin won't affect the other players on the server in the same manner as someone using a hydra to DM innocent people.
No because the DMer would be punished for breaking the server rules.
The question is not if the DMer would be punished or not.
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You forgot one major difference. Somebody with negative thoughts about an admin won't affect the other players on the server in the same manner as someone using a hydra to DM innocent people.
The question is not if the DMer would be punished or not.
And do you think Flaken would be so dumb to fly around in a Hydra shooting civilians cops medics firemans name it and kill them?
I don't think he would do that and buy a ban for mass deathmatch.
Come on and stop being so biased, Edward mad a mistake and left it unattended and removed it with a command, clear script abuse.
This topic needs to get locked since it's just a big argue going on now.
Bye.
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And do you think Flaken would be so dumb to fly around in a Hydra shooting civilians cops medics firemans name it and kill them?
I don't think you even need to ask that question.
If I had the hydra, I would dm you. OOOH OWNEEED OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOH
Today, I stole a hydra from the FBI because they were surrounding an ancelotti in a building. I was about to shoot the owner with it.
By the way, not even I agree with Edward's actions completely... but he was able to prevent mass DM usage of the hydra.
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Maybe he prevented the "Mass deathmatching", but he still broke a rule many got banned for daily, script abuse.
He should face the consequences like everyone else.
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In this situation, I would say that what he did was tantamount to DMing a weapon hacker in order to lure him away from the other players, or an admin kicking innocent players off the server because a rogue admin (who was actually an admin account that was hacked) started causing damage.
If I was given two evil choices, I would most certainly choose the lesser one. What about you?
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In this situation, I would say that what he did was tantamount to DMing a weapon hacker in order to lure him away from the other players, or an admin kicking innocent players off the server because a rogue admin (who was actually an admin account that was hacked) started causing damage.
If I was given two evil choices, I would most certainly choose the lesser one. What about you?
I would just obey the rules.
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He guys, this topic was (I hope) not made as a way to get Edward punished. Even better, it is not even allowed to make a topic to get a player punished. For that there is the mail.. So please stop blaming/accusing Edward.
I am NOT saying that Edward was in his rights to use the command. However, keep repeating that he should be punished will only make this "discussion" go from bad to worse.
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I don't think you even need to ask that question.
Your assumptions make me sick.
How dare you come to such baseless and ignorant conclusions, and try to pass them off as anything else than biased rubbish.
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You lost a hydra by your own mistake to a criminal, and then you used a command to get it back. Not only that this is a script abuse, but its also a pussy action, who ever have done it.
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First time I go back on a "last post" post.
So I take it both of you endorse malevolent abuse of the hydra by Flaken who will use it to DM plenty of people on the server?
That's exactly what the dump commands were made for.
Flaken may do some stupid shit, but he'd never DM people at random.
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You lost a hydra by your own mistake to a criminal, and then you used a command to get it back. Not only that this is a script abuse, but its also a pussy action, who ever have done it.
*[p]uzi :D
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Flaken may do some stupid shit, but he'd never DM people at random.
If I had I hydra, I WOULD RP WITH IT AND HAVE A WONDERFUL RP. The servers need more RPers like me
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First time I go back on a "last post" post.
So I take it both of you endorse malevolent abuse of the hydra by Flaken who will use it to DM plenty of people on the server?
That's exactly what the dump commands were made for.
JDC, stop assuming shit. I wouldn't dm with it. I would sell it to Romeo for 1mil.
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JDC, stop assuming shit. I wouldn't dm with it. I would sell it to Romeo for 1mil.
And what would he do with it?
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Considering how many of you here (such as Panda, who is one of the most biased against the FBI... and cops in general) loathe cops and will seek revenge given the first favourable opportunity, I would say my assumption was optimistic at the least.
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Considering how many of you here (such as Panda, who is one of the most biased against the FBI... and cops in general) loathe cops and will seek revenge given the first favourable opportunity, I would say my assumption was optimistic at the least.
in your opinion, many of the people here loathe cops. Your opinion... And go ahead and tell me its based on past events or facts, whatever you like, it is still an opinion.
As for this... I don't like the concept of a criminal (or civilian for that matter) having the hydra. I am a criminal/civilian myself, but Even if there is an admin watching the player in hydra, it takes little time to launch several rockets at LSPD, massacring several, to many people. But I ALSO do not like the concept of using a command to remove the hydra. The first thought should be roleplay, not commands. If roleplaying does not work, maybe try commands then. Imagine the kidnapping of a Hydra, police could pay xxx money in return, the criminal returns the hydra/lands it.
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If I post here saying that a hydra can travel faster than a bicycle, is that merely my opinion?
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As for this... I don't like the concept of a criminal (or civilian for that matter) having the hydra. I am a criminal/civilian myself, but Even if there is an admin watching the player in hydra, it takes little time to launch several rockets at LSPD, massacring several, to many people.
What is to stop EdwardC from doing this, though?
Given some of the opinions against Flaken, I could come out and claim that "it is good the hydra got nicked because EdwardC was clearly about to DM everyone on the server with it" and fit right in.
Considering how many of you here (such as Panda, who is one of the most biased against the FBI... and cops in general) loathe cops
When did I ever say I "loathed cops"?
I quite like freecops, actually. Also a few SAPD officers are quite good.
I was also a cop long before I was anything else. Shit, I was even in the ARPD before it got messed up in November '07.
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When did I ever say I "loathed cops"?
I quite like freecops, actually. Also a few SAPD officers are quite good.
I was also a cop long before I was anything else. Shit, I was even in the ARPD before it got messed up in November '07.
You forgot the parts where you advocated the uselessness and the removal of law enforcement altogether. :redface:
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Hi MrJDC.
What makes you think criminals would DM with it? There is a the same chance that FBI could do it also. What makes you think fbi is as professional as you are saying? In fact, fbi is bullshit. It doesnt make you any better eith good english grammar. Lets take a look at Ben Samiir, probably the best cop. He made simple, but smart SRU tactics. his english grammar is not that good since he is from Belgium. Even the FIRST week I were with SRU, I had s little knowledge about the tactics. Now when I am on duty i do almost all of the tactics automatically ( if possible ). I even use them off duty, and when I where alone against 3 "professional FBI" I killed all of them my self. That just shows how bad FBI and their tactics are. I guess that is the reason you have to use hydras and hunters. Hunters on bikes also, what makes you think you are professional? Most of the NRG chases i had in SRU usually ended up with the suspect dwad or in custody, we used buffalow as usual. If Ben teached all of your FBI members ALL the tactics he uses, FBI would hopefully be professional. Seeing FBI now I consider it as some new freecops with smg and armour in a slow car. Kthxbai
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If the FBI would DM with it, then we wouldn't have it, would we?
It's unbelievable SWAT tolerates attitude of people like you. No wonder people are complaining.
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If the FBI would DM with it, then we wouldn't have it, would we?
It's unbelievable SWAT tolerates attitude of people like you. No wonder people are complaining.
The same chance as a regular would DM with it. I'm not SWAT or SAPD anymore, if I were I would not posted it.
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The same chance as a regular would DM with it. I'm not SWAT or SAPD anymore, if I were I would not posted it.
Correction on my part then... didn't see that "ex" in your signature.
The difference is that the FBI Agents who have access to the hydra, have even more rules to follow than even the other FBI Agents. Breaking them means either the hydra getting restricted to only the direction, the offender getting demoted / fired, or both.
Not to mention the Agents who have the hydra were trusted in the first place. Our access was from a community leader.
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Thanks for Keeping the topic light hearted.
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Excatly the ARPD Officers have more team work and tactic than FBI does .
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Thanks for keeping the topic light hearted and topic.
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The difference is that the FBI Agents who have access to the hydra, have even more rules to follow than even the other FBI Agents. Breaking them means either the hydra getting restricted to only the direction, the offender getting demoted / fired, or both.
They failed, obviously.
Flaken, an experienced criminal, noticed their fail and was smart enough to get it - without needing any script command.
What does FBI do? Simply remove it.
Now they claim to "stop a mass dm" attempting to hide their mass-stupidy in landing an hydra infront of a burgershot...
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No wonder people complain that "times have changed on Argonath and moaners are everywhere".
They arent moaning, your a classic example of "Bitches bitching about bitches" get over it and stop with your claim of professionality and your anti SWAT attitude. Mistakes have been made others will be blamed, period.
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No wonder people complain that "times have changed on Argonath and moaners are everywhere".
You're the most known moaner present here - never ingame, always complaining.
When you run out of arguments you procceed to call others "moaners" since their opinions are different from yours.
No wonder why most of people sees you as a joke.(justprit)
Mistakes have been made.
Drop the "always-right" attitude and admit it for once :razz:^
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This topic is way out of hand, moaning trolling provoking. Name it.
Requesting lock ;)
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Hi People!
Topic has been locked as many complaints have been issued.
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