FLA-SAPD bs - /discuss

[TrotlDebilni]

This whole situation just reminded me of a similar scenario in RS4..

Remember when we did some jail RP when a  whole bunch of people went to Mordor and NBA took it over and for the next week they basically had control of Mordor?

Did that happen or was it a fever nightmare?

I forget how that ended but I'm pretty sure someone got banned, I swear this happened. It was like a Public Mission.

the only way to solve your issues is to remove Law Enforcing groups.

You are talking about issues and problems and how we want to eradicate law enforcments.. no dude, just continue the roleplay, nobody wants to remove anything, we just want to have fun. roleplaying. on a roleplay server. expressing our imagination.

Nobody is trying to argue against you, we just want to further this roleplay.

[Gnb_22]

You always jump into a topic and start claiming few people derail a "constructive topic" into provoking, yet you come into the topic like a wrecking ball just throwing random hostile insults and provocations on the person itself. I don't see that as something constructive eh? if you love topics being constructive why aren't you constructive yourself? that's hypocrite I say.

I just point out the flaws of others, some find my approach offensive. Well the truth often offends. As for being contructive, I've been instrumental in giving my opinion on several issues in the past and continue to do so which has and will continue to benifit the community.

Let us know where and how did you guys burn your fingers, used black magic to destroy your DNA and bought tons of glue to stick your masks.. We need to copy your methods too apparently!

How about you quit with the provocation and post something useful.


Now back on topic, The FLA role play is something different and I totally understand that not everyone understands or get the idea behind it. At least these people are putting effort into role playing something an actually giving you guys the oppertunity to be apart of it. As for the independance thing, I'm not too sure how it will work the entire thing seems like it would need far too much effort and dedication to maintain. I personally believe FLA has to show that it has longevity and is commited for them to be given this kind of support. Its only been six months to be brutally honest and there was atleast a 1-2 month period where you guys have disappeared to be totaly fair. I'm not against the idea, I just don't think official independance is a thing you guys should get right now. Doesnt stop you from role playing or continue doing what you're currently doing.

[.Matthew.]

I'd much prefer we close this book and continue with another

That'd be beautiful.

we just want to have fun. roleplaying. on a roleplay server. expressing our imagination.

I want that as well, but then there's this thing where in Argonath people are immortal, untouchable and don't roleplay fear at all.

[CharlieKasper]

Either way, your requests are illogical because FBI is a FEDERAL agency and it operates in any state that is within United States of Argonath. And also ARPD exists as SAPD for SA:MP because ARPD is divided into divisions: LCPD, VCPD, SAPD and so on. What you're asking for is a federal police force, and you'll get nothing more but another copy of SAPD. Your sole issues are the existence of Law Enforcement and their job of punishing you for illegal acts, the only way to solve your issues is to remove Law Enforcing groups.

Oh, I have a different view all right. FLA wants to become an independent country, I think an independent state would be better.. The problem is not the existence of a law enforce agency. A state without a police force will be an absolute mess, if it happens to become a separate state, it won't be run by an army like it is now. A police force and government is definitely needed to run a state properly.

And that is why I suggested it to be a different state with new constitution, new government, new city hall, new law enforcers, new mayors.

And about your point on FBI, I would first like to see ALL VC:MP and IV:MP FBI members immediately getting FBI rights on SA:MP before FBI claims jurisdiction in flint county and Whetstone.

[.Matthew.]

And about your point on FBI, I would first like to see ALL VC:MP and IV:MP FBI members immediately getting FBI rights on SA:MP before FBI claims jurisdiction in flint county and Whetstone.

Imagine the FBI in each server as a field office of the FBI, while the SA:MP one is the HQ - Washington DC, J. Edgar Hover.
Those who are in IV:MP are in Liberty City and are FBI Agents there.
Those who are in VC:MP are in Vice City and are FBI Agents there.
Those who are in SA:MP are in San Andreas and are FBI Agents there.

One can be an FBI Agent in both with no problem if they decide to play their character the same way in both servers.
The only issue is non-roleplay related and it's if the person has enough time to dedicate to play two servers for enough time.

However, if person decides to be a criminal in SA:MP and an Agent in VC:MP, obviously it's their choice and they can't be an FBI Agent as a criminal.

[Bruce.]

San Andreas Court, SAPD, SA FBI, SA Mayors, SA Govt, none of them will have jurisdiction there and therefore a new police department (APPD), a new mayor, a new govt, a new city hall and court will be made. That way FLA gets a form of independence and it still says a part of USA. c):-)

Why not a news RP server as well? FLA RPG? Yes?

[.Matthew.]

Why not a news RP server as well? FLA RPG? Yes?

Fucking hell that's a great idea actually, make it based only on Flint Country and let them run it however they want, we'll have fun in main one with gangs and good ol' mafias.

[Sweeper]

Current law enforcement staff is either too in-active or incapable to bring this to an end. This could have been solved three weeks ago.

We've had several of these useless polarizing topics in the past weeks, where the entire community gets involved, where leaders of both groups are whining; without any outcome.

[Stivi]

Off topic / Provocative post removed

[McGarrett]

Why do you think SAPD is no longer divided by the 4 sub departments; LSPD, LVPD, SFPD and DPD? It's because the playerbase drastically decreased and the policing community got divided, making it impossible for all other departments than LSPD in the long run. And FLA want to claim independence over Flint County and divide the server more? This is the perfect example of what Argonath doesn't need.

[Kaze]

Such a shame this issue is still going on. Grow a pair of balls and let FLA get their independence. Every fucking day you see these mafia groups opening and it gets too repetitive. FLA is defo one of the best additions to RS5.2 yet and you want to take them down.

Please don't make me open an Aryan brotherhood because I'll make your life a living hell.

[Ramo_Hawk]

This whole situation just reminded me of a similar scenario in RS4..

Remember when we did some jail RP when a  whole bunch of people went to Mordor and NBA took it over and for the next week they basically had control of Mordor?

Did that happen or was it a fever nightmare?

I forget how that ended but I'm pretty sure someone got banned, I swear this happened. It was like a Public Mission.

Yes, I was the one banned, but that's all in the past.

Please don't make me open an Aryan brotherhood because I'll make your life a living hell.

Anyway, about the trial time. I guess it's doable but yet there's up to HQ to decide. About the voting, oh please... everyone in this community how voting goes around... specially on this kind of situation. You get all your friends to go and vote yes and tada ... you won the voting stage. I seriously would gladly do that only if I will have assurance that I will not be kidnapped, robbed, or end up hanged in the middle of Angel Pine by any FLA member cause I know the "grudge" they got on cops at the moment.
p.s. Expect people saying that I am a corrupted cop again.

These votes aren't an actual voting, its just to see where we stand. Its to see how the server views it. The actual decision is always from above, from HQ. And regarding you as being a cop in Angel Pine, I assume once they succeed in getting their independence and if they go along and open up APPD, I'm sure you can. If they'll call you corrupt, just let them be as long as you aren't.

I would rather like to see the FLA leadership and SAPD "negociate". I'm not expecting a 1 on 1 meeting, that would be bad obviously.

I can try and make the meeting happen, hopefully. Something has to be done imo, and a conclusion has to be made eventually by HQ.

[Bruce.]

Current law enforcement staff is either too in-active or incapable to bring this to an end. This could have been solved three weeks ago.

Please tell us how can we solve this. Since it could be solved three weeks ago.

[Mikal]

Why not a new RP server as well? FLA RPG? Yes?

If you want to reduce SA:MP Argonath's player count that much then sure!

Fucking hell that's a great idea actually, make it based only on Flint Country and let them run it however they want, we'll have fun in main one with gangs and good ol' mafias.

Oh right, you want to get back to the same ol' mafias which you always beat and win every time.

I guess some people just don't like that FLA is so strong, most of the time it's bigger than law enforcement, most of the time it can't be challenged, I love that.

And FLA want to claim independence over Flint County and divide the server more? This is the perfect example of what Argonath doesn't need.

Since your police player base is so small now perhaps independence would do you guys a favour, you'd have less area to police, good yes?

Please don't make me open an Aryan brotherhood because I'll make your life a living hell.

Pls, no more unique groups, you've seen the shit storm 1 has caused... They want the same ol' mafias.

Please tell us how can we solve this. Since it could be solved three weeks ago.

Independence?

[.Matthew.]

I guess some people just don't like that FLA is so strong, most of the time it's bigger than law enforcement, most of the time it can't be challenged, I love that.

*gets arrested*
"Ban me."
"I'm not going anywhere."
"I'm not even gonna come back after this."