He has royal screwed any chance of re-election now.Not really, you got a bunch of gays going 'Oh muh gaad, I love Obama, and his hair.... So cute.' :lol:
I compleatly understand his decision.Yes, let's waste billions of dollars on an issue that is created by your backwards thinking. You're proposing imprisoning someone because of their sexual orientation, why does it matter so much to you?
In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)
Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!
FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!
Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!
If it was up to me i would:
Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.
Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.
End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.
It's the 21st century, who gives a f**k if a donkey marries a frog.^^^
In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)Here the police arrest the parents of the gay person who's been beaten up.
I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry :DYou suck so hard.
In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)Wow, I'm shocked. I didn't know young people with that sort of mindset still exist, and this is in a country that is a candidate to join the EU in 2014.. :wow: Sounds like a big field of uneducated and ignorant rednecks..
Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!
FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!
Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!
If it was up to me i would:
Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.
Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.
I compleatly understand his decision.
In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)
Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!
FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!
Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!
If it was up to me i would:
Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.
Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.
End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.
Note:
I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry :D
Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!No, every person is a unique person. We all decide how we want to be.
Step No.1:Congratulations, you have just wrote down 3 steps on the most immature way to 'get rid of gay people'.
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.
Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.
End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.More pure planet? I honestly wish that you dont belive that yourself. If you do, it's time to contact a doctor.
Note:And here comes the point. You are contradicting what you yourself wrote, hence why you must understand that i can't take your post seriously.
I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry :D
I compleatly understand his decision.
In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)
Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!
FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!
Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!
If it was up to me i would:
Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.
Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.
End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.
Note:
I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry :D
End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.
I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry :D
You would happily shoot a paramedic who has saved countless lives, who is a regular blood donor...You can donate blood? In here homosexuals can not donate blood. don't know the reason just stating the fact.
I compleatly understand his decision.Everyone deserves to live their lives the way they want to, have you considered you people in Serbia may have a mental illness if you 'beat gays to death' as you put it? I'm straight and I don't have a problem with gays, although I find the things some of them might do, or seeing them kissing is just grose for me, but I still don't have a problem with them, people control their lives the way they want to, the way your describing Serbia makes it look undeveloped and full of bullys/racist f**ks, have you not considered that theres gay people in Argonath and your offending them, Nathan as an example.
In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)
Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!
FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!
Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!
If it was up to me i would:
Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.
Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.
End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.
Note:
I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry :D
In here homosexuals can not donate blood. don't know the reason just stating the fact.
It goes against the natural (as stated by Plato, Aristotle, etc)
or your dad maybe admitted to being gay,Now there it is! That is the most confusing situation about gays I've encounter. How kids say to their dad "come out of the closet already!", because if he is your dad that means either two things you are basically test tube kids ( dad jerked off to a cup and mom used it) or he had intercourse with your mom. The latter being 99% of the cases and making automatically your dad not gay! At best he is bisexual!
For me it seems as a way to try to get reelected again.Sure, that might be true, but if Obama had a problem with same-sex marriage, he would never express support for it. Politicians are hypocritical all the time, but pretending to hold values you don't actually have isn't the same as expressing values that are completely contradictory to the ones you actually possess.
For me it seems as a way to try to get reelected again.Of course it is, but the folks down in Alabama are not amused. :roll:
because being gay gives you aidsAnd we all know straight people carry AIDS immunity gene within them...
If the blokes you named condemned it, they were a minority.
That minority became the ones who were valued by our times and philosophy.
And we all know straight people carry AIDS immunity gene within them...
he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake.Religion as a whole is a mistake, a cultural error on our part as a race.
Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!Church staff all over the world are molesting small children. Religion is evil, wicked and bad.
If it was up to me i would:You know, if I was in charge, I can't say I'd even give religious people a chance to fix themselves. I'd probably just skip to step 3 and have them all shot.
Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.And in my situation we'd be rid of religion, and be a more pure planet.
I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry :D>implying>implying>implying>implying>implying
uneducated and ignorant redneck
Gender, race, impairment all relate to what a person is, whereas homosexuality relates to what a person does.No. Gender, race and sexuality are all things that people are.
a perversion of everything we once knew and supportedMuch like those pesky women's rights!
But seriously, I don't think they'd reject blood from someone if they didn't state their sexual preference.Indeed. You can merely fail to point out that you're not straight and you can donate blood.
I compleatly understand his decision.
In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)
Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!
FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!
Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!
If it was up to me i would:
Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.
Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.
End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.
Note:
I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry :D
It goes against the natural (as stated by Plato, Aristotle, etc), against all moral laws, and is frankly a perversion of everything we once knew and supported. It also will only serve to corrupt the youth.It's called progress.
Gender, race, impairment all relate to what a person is, whereas homosexuality relates to what a person does.If you are attracted to the same sex, you can't really change that. Similarly, you can't change your gender or race (not 100% anyway). Therefore it's not something you do.
But for those who are speaking of "progress" in the United States and other such nations... what would you say if some people tried to lobby for the right to f**k animals (i.e: sheep, goat, cow, etc) because "it's their sexual preference and they were born that way"?Sex with sheep is not consensual, nor is it a sexual preference (maybe in Wales :D)
It's called progress.Not all progress is positive progress.
If you are attracted to the same sex, you can't really change that. Similarly, you can't change your gender or race (not 100% anyway). Therefore it's not something you do.Attraction to something can change. For example, attraction to drugs can change via rehab, though I don't suggest the same idea that the guy above said, anything can be changed.
No. Gender, race and sexuality are all things that people are.Sexuality refers to the way a person thinks. Race, gender is what a person is and CANNOT change. Thus, a person's views on what he/she is attracted to can be changed. Not easily, but over time.
Much like those pesky women's rights!
Oh, and freeing the slaves. What a perversion of our age-old values!
And this guy is an admin. Eh, alright then..My administration work is separate from my personal beliefs. My work is NOT based on my beliefs, but the beliefs and the Vision imposed by the owners and administration.
Attraction to something can change.So your attraction to women can change?
Sexuality refers to the way a person thinks. Race, gender is what a person is and CANNOT change. Thus, a person's views on what he/she is attracted to can be changed. Not easily, but over time.If a black man had medical operations to make his skin white, would he become a white man?
So your attraction to women can change?In theory, yes. The fact of the matter remains that we know, and say that homosexuality is wrong. If it wasn't wrong, we wouldn't have to impose any laws, but at the end of the day, it's not going to happen.
If a black man had medical operations to make his skin white, would he become a white man?
we know, and say that homosexuality is wrong.And I "know" that people who type in arial on the forum are wrong and shouldn't be doing it.
And I "know" that people who type in arial on the forum are wrong and shouldn't be doing it.You're comparing two different ideas. Don't derail the topic.
Do you see what I did there?
And you can do the same to have a sex change. But in reality, one still remains an black because his DNA still proves him to be in reality black.[/font]But if a black man cannot change his actual race, despite being able to change his skin colour through a medical procedure, why would a gay man be able to change his sexuality through a medical procedure?
You're comparing two different ideas. Don't derail the topic.Why? How is sexuality being inherently "wrong" any different to arial users (for example) being also inherently "wrong".
But if a black man cannot change his actual race, despite being able to change his skin colour through a medical procedure, why would a gay man be able to change his sexuality through a medical procedure?Simple, a gay person cannot give birth to more gay kids via NORMAL intercourse to pursue to sole purpose of reproduction, right? Thus, this means that it IS a choice.
Why? How is sexuality being inherently "wrong" any different to arial users being also inherently "wrong".Again, two different ideas. Sex was made for both pleasure and reproduction. If the normal (which therefore is right) way with a man and a woman results to conception, wouldn't it be normal for a man and a man to cause conception or woman and a woman? Therefore, it is simply unnatural and is therefore chosen by CHOICE to become gay.
Simple, a gay person cannot give birth to more gay kids via NORMAL intercourse to pursue to sole purpose of reproduction, right? Thus, this means that it IS a choice.I don't even see how I can refute that clearly since even a child could see what a failure of logic that is.
Sex was made for both pleasure and reproduction.That's pretty poorly phrased, if I'm honest.
If the normal (which therefore is right)You can't just say something is "right" because it's "normal". They're both equally ambiguous terms.
Therefore, it is simply unnatural and is therefore chosen by CHOICE to become gay.Why do non-sentient animals choose to be gay?
Why do non-sentient animals choose to be gay?
"All men are created equal" - Declaration of Independence.
There is always a unique kind. But not all uniqueness is useful.What gives you the right to decide whether some kind of ambiguous "usefulness" defines whether something is inherently right or wrong?
It's the 21st century, who gives a f**k if a donkey marries a frog.lol
Except the african slaves you guys kept for almost 100 years
Too bad you have to answer all the questions on the form including sexual preference and you could be rejected even if your girlfriend got a new piercing in a wrong place.
But seriously, I don't think they'd reject blood from someone if they didn't state their sexual preference. So if you want to donate blood in Estonia and happen to be gay, it's best to keep your boyfriends hidden away.
Since, i see that many here support gays, answer me to this question:
What is "normal" and "OK" in 2 males kissing each other, holding hands, placing dicks up each others asses? I dont wanna go off or something too much, and transfer to religion but, did God create Adam and Eve, or Adam and Steve?
Who said "god" created anything (except arguments and wars)?You are an ateist (i sthink), and i understand that you have taht point of view. Anyway, what i am trying to point out is that by supporting gay marriage, you are doing something that compleatly differs to what God wanted. So, i am pointing out that, if a christian does this, he is making a HUGE sin.
You are an ateist (i sthink), and i understand that you have taht point of view. Anyway, what i am trying to point out is that by supporting gay marriage, you are doing something that compleatly differs to what God wanted. So, i am pointing out that, if a christian does this, he is making a HUGE sin.If you want christian, christian it is. The 6th amendment states "You shall not murder.", yet you said that in Serbia, you beat gays to death.. So who is being more sinful here?
This "new" age is more wicked, evil and twisted than anything. People are starting to think that we are all the same. We are not. We are created diffrent. There is not 2 100% the same persons in the entrie world (twins are not compleatly same cause, they have diffrent finger prinst). What is going on in 21. century is just WRONG. So, just because "authorities" say it is OK, it does not mean it is...
What is "normal" and "OK" in 2 males kissing each other, holding hands, placing dicks up each others asses? I dont wanna go off or something too much, and transfer to religion but, did God create Adam and Eve, or Adam and Steve?What is normal about two people that love each other? Everything.. Why do you care about what they do in bed? :conf:
You are an ateist (i sthink), and i understand that you have taht point of view. Anyway, what i am trying to point out is that by supporting gay marriage, you are doing something that compleatly differs to what God wanted. So, i am pointing out that, if a christian does this, he is making a HUGE sin.
As that Jebuz guy once said, "love your neighbour as yourself"So if a guy likes to pleasure himself with his hand, he should also go and give a helping hand to his neighbor? :D
So if a guy likes to pleasure himself with his hand, he should also go and give a helping hand to his neighbor? :D
If you want christian, christian it is. The 6th amendment states "You shall not murder.", yet you said that in Serbia, you beat gays to death.. So who is being more sinful here?Yea, murrder is a sin, and people are aware of that. But, i would commit a great sin, rather than have my kid in future be submitted to all those horrors of watching 2 guys sharing love on the streets. If they see that they start thinking it is "OK", and they think that they should do that! Trues story, almoast happened to son of my dad's friend. We know what we do, and why we do, and we do it to protect our future and current family.
What is normal about two people that love each other? Everything.. Why do you care about what they do in bed? :conf:
Not everybody believes in religion.Yea, i am aware of that. Now, in modern age, religion is "outdated"... That is a really wrong thing... In a race for modernisation people forget important stuff: religion and history.
Yea, murrder is a sin, and people are aware of that. But, i would commit a great sin, rather than have my kid in future be submitted to all those horrors of watching 2 guys sharing love on the streets. If they see that they start thinking it is "OK", and they think that they should do that! Trues story, almoast happened to son of my dad. We know what we do, and why we do, and we do it to protect our future and current family.
Yea, i am aware of that. Now, in modern age, religion is "outdated"... That is a really wrong thing... In a race for modernisation people forget important stuff: religion and history.
So if a guy likes to pleasure himself with his hand, he should also go and give a helping hand to his neighbor? :D
Yea, murrder is a sin, and people are aware of that. But, i would commit a great sin, rather than have my kid in future be submitted to all those horrors of watching 2 guys sharing love on the streets.
Too bad you have to answer all the questions on the form including sexual preference and you could be rejected even if your girlfriend got a new piercing in a wrong place.
If they see that they start thinking it is "OK", and they think that they should do that!
I am in east, under eastern influence. People in east are OK with modernisation, but next to it, they are in touch with theyre customs, religion and history extreamly more than west. Thats the case, and source to our dissagreement. Ofcourse, east has some people that prefer modernisation, but anyway, you get the point.
What is "normal" and "OK" in 2 males kissing each other, holding hands, placing dicks up each others asses?What is "abnormal" about it?
did God create Adam and Eve, or Adam and Steve?God does not exist so the question is irrelevant.
In a natural point of view, this states that homosexual relationships would never replace heterosexual relationships.Well no shit, but whoever said that they had to be mutually exclusive?
But, i would commit a great sin, rather than have my kid in future be submitted to all those horrors of watching 2 guys sharing love on the streets. If they see that they start thinking it is "OK", and they think that they should do that!You'd better not have any f**king children, I mean.. damn.
Trues story, almoast happened to son of my dad's friend.I feel sorry for the person of which you speak.
In a race for modernisation people forget important stuff: religion and history.Religion is completely unimportant outside of history, so stating both isn't adding anything.
Yes Jankek, i am willing to go to hell for my family. Wouldnt you do that for your family?And when your children see you murdering innocent people on the street, and do the same (as according to you: monkey see, monkey do), you would be okay with meeting your children in hell? How many generations of your family are you apparently happy to doom to "eternal damnation" for the sake of maybe producing a child that isn't a crazy murderer?
People in east are OK with modernisation, but next to it, they are in touch with theyre customs, religion and history extreamly more than west.At what point did being "in touch with their customs, religion and history" warrant discriminatory mass murder?
I wondered when we'd get to the East/West thing... :roll:
Topic train in a nutshell:And it is said best, easies, shortest that way than writing whole books of argument.
President Barack Obama supports homosexuality which is said by religion to be wrong, religious and sexual views differing in the East and West.
amidoinitrite?
What is "abnormal" about it?
God does not exist so the question is irrelevant.
Well no shit, but whoever said that they had to be mutually exclusive?
You'd better not have any f**king children, I mean.. damn.
You'd rather have your child see (and apparently emulate immediately, based on your post) violent murder than two guys sharing love? What's wrong with you?
I feel sorry for the person of which you speak.
Religion is completely unimportant outside of history, so stating both isn't adding anything.
And when your children see you murdering innocent people on the street, and do the same (as according to you: monkey see, monkey do), you would be okay with meeting your children in hell? How many generations of your family are you apparently happy to doom to "eternal damnation" for the sake of maybe producing a child that isn't a crazy murderer?
At what point did being "in touch with their customs, religion and history" warrant discriminatory mass murder?
I don't know what the Yugoslav guy means by it, so, ask him...Yugoslavia broke apart long time ago.
God exists.
You people are so easy to manipulate
Since, i see that many here support gays, answer me to this question:"did god create" is not a valid argument today. We do not like around year 1800 anymore.
What is "normal" and "OK" in 2 males kissing each other, holding hands, placing dicks up each others asses? I dont wanna go off or something too much, and transfer to religion but, did God create Adam and Eve, or Adam and Steve?
"did god create" is not a valid argument today. We do not like around year 1800 anymore.Ok, than amma give you a scientific answer. In nature, same sex animals do not attract each other. Also in physics, take magnetism. Magnets of the same sex (sry if that is wrong expression, but i do not know how to say that 2 same parts of magnet repel each other) repel each other.
Ok, than amma give you a scientific answer. In nature, same sex animals do not attract each other. Also in physics, take magnetism. Magnets of the same sex (sry if that is wrong expression, but i do not know how to say that 2 same parts of magnet repel each other) repel each other.
So, having same sex'es togeather, is not OK acording to laws of nature in any kind of way.
What if there's actually a God and he created the world through science?That can actually be correct. But, how did God came to existance ;) ? (how did God came to existance, a question to wich i cant find answer!)
Perfect way to troll creationists / atheists.
This:
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kinda looks like this in the 60s
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I'm not sure if you are trolling or not.Interesting...
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/5550488/Homosexual-behaviour-widespread-in-animals-according-to-new-study.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/5550488/Homosexual-behaviour-widespread-in-animals-according-to-new-study.html)
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx (http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx)
The difference is that male-female marriage is universally present in all cultures, whereas segregation is not.
Heterosexual marriage is not in the same level as segregation.
But, still, those are living creatures, and every living creature can have brain defect.
But, still, physics does not approve it. Therefore, it is unnatural. I told you about the magnets.
By that we have a conclusion that living creatures can be born with defects, wich can cause this kind of gay behavioure.
Holy f**k, now this is getting out of hand. :wow:
This is biology, not physics. Don't confuse the two, that's a massive mistake.
How is MAGNETISM biology??? :trust:He was saying that you shouldn't bring physics into this as the discussion is biology related.
Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law.
I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge
with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual
lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly
states it to be an abomination. ... End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of
God's Law and how to follow them.
1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They
claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus
21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her
period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I
tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and
female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A
friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not
Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
The passage clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated
to kill him myself?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I
don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a
defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my
vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair
around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27.
How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me
unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different
crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two
different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse
and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of
getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we
just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people
who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable
expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Your adoring fan,
Anonymous
How is MAGNETISM biology??? :trust:
But, still, those are living creatures, and every living creature can have brain defect. But, still, physics does not approve it. Therefore, it is unnatural.
This is biology, not physics. Don't confuse the two, that's a massive mistake.
This:
(http://img.izismile.com/img/img5/20120518/640/new_stuff_today_looks_weird_in_30_years_640_01.jpg)
kinda looks like this in the 60s
(http://img.izismile.com/img/img5/20120518/640/new_stuff_today_looks_weird_in_30_years_640_02.jpg)
Like said before, you can't choose your sexuality. Either you feel sexual desire toward your own sex or opposite sex ( or both). There is no " January to June - straight. July to December - gay"
Again, you are comparing something to what a person is and chooses to be (homosexuality) versus to what a person is (race).
Since, i see that many here support gays, answer me to this question:
What is "normal" and "OK" in 2 males kissing each other, holding hands, placing dicks up each others asses? I dont wanna go off or something too much, and transfer to religion but, did God create Adam and Eve, or Adam and Steve?
Interesting...
But, still, those are living creatures, and every living creature can have brain defect. But, still, physics does not approve it. Therefore, it is unnatural. I told you about the magnets. By that we have a conclusion that living creatures can be born with defects, wich can cause this kind of gay behavioure.
As for jubin:
Americans, along with Spain and Britain were racist. Only racists. Diffrent race is not something unnatural. Gay marriage is something unnatural. Deal with it. (physics proves it).
Like said before, you can't choose your sexuality. Either you feel sexual desire toward your own sex or opposite sex ( or both). There is no " January to June - straight. July to December - gay"
The complementary structure of the male and female anatomy is obviously designed for the normal husband-wife relationships.Humans were not built to marry and have monogamous relationships for the better part of their life. In nature, it is the male's job to spread his genes as much as possible, marriage is a human invention and goes against nature. Clearly.
Andrew Lansdown points out that 'h, homosexual actions facilitate the transmission of anal herpes, hepatitis B, intestinal parasites, Kaposi's Sarcoma and AIDS.'Who is Andrew Lansdown and why should I give a f**k what he says? "Andrew Lansdown points out that 'h, homosexual actions facilitate the transmission of anal herpes, hepatitis B, intestinal parasites, Kaposi's Sarcoma and AIDS." (https://www.google.com/search?q=omosexual+activity+is+notoriously+disease-prone.+In+addition+to+diseases+associated+with+heterosexual+promiscuity&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)?
Research on the life expectancy of a group of homosexual men in Canada in the early 1990s indicated that they could expect 8-21 years less lifespan than other men.Source? "Research on the life expectancy of a group of homosexual men in Canada in the early 1990s indicated that they could expect 8-21 years less lifespan than other men." (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Research+on+the+life+expectancy+of+a+group+of+homosexual+men+in+Canada+in+the+early+1990s+indicated+that+they+could+expect+8-21+years+less+lifespan+than+other+men.&oq=Research+on+the+life+expectancy+of+a+group+of+homosexual+men+in+Canada+in+the+early+1990s+indicated+that+they+could+expect+8-21+years+less+lifespan+than+other+men.&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...94865.94865.0.95370.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.hlI1zWpXKPw)
To the extent that biological or social factors may contribute to a person's bent toward homosexual behavior, this does not excuse it.What biological factors? You're saying that there is no proof that homosexuality occurs naturally and is a choice and then contradict yourself. Oh wait, you don't make up your own arguments. "In all three cases, the researchers had a vested interest in obtaining a certain outcome because they were homosexuals themselves" (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=Wb&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=In+all+three+cases%2C+the+researchers+had+a+vested+interest+in+obtaining+a+certain+outcome+because+they+were+homosexuals+themselve&oq=In+all+three+cases%2C+the+researchers+had+a+vested+interest+in+obtaining+a+certain+outcome+because+they+were+homosexuals+themselve&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...4547.566970.0.567110.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.WJZcXfCzswI)
Are all religious people taught to spout the same mindless, baseless and idiotic drivel? Maybe you all just go to the same church. :rofl:
And this is the exact reason why we cannot have Politics and Religion section on the forums, because of people like you. I guess it's the fact that you suffer from Superiority complex that makes you attack religious people because you feel the fact that because it goes against your pleasure means that it is wrong.No, I attacked you because you're unable to form an argument yourself and are instead influenced by Christian propaganda. Why do you think I posted all those google links? The same arguments, word for word, are used by religious zealots across the internet.
Since, i see that many here support gays, answer me to this question:Adam and Eve were never married, and if God made everyone didn't he also make Steve?
What is "normal" and "OK" in 2 males kissing each other, holding hands, placing dicks up each others asses? I dont wanna go off or something too much, and transfer to religion but, did God create Adam and Eve, or Adam and Steve?
This isn't out of hand. One person has gone over the top with a reply, every single other person who has posted here has been critical and made constructive replies.Agreed. Everyone here deserves a medal.
No, I attacked you because you're unable to form an argument yourself and are instead influenced by Christian propaganda.
It does not matter if you are religious or not, as Jesus has sanctioned a bond for life between two of his disciples.
Why would it be mentioned explicitly as a bond between tow men, where all disciples were homies ?
There is a thing called friendship. If my homies and I bond for the rest of our lives, that only shows our true friendship, not a homosexual relationship.
Why would it be mentioned explicitly as a bond between tow men, where all disciples were homies ?There is a level of friendship. There is best friend, and just friends.
This was a clear homosexual relationship, which was at the time not unusual.If it was clear and right (now basing of Biblical views), then Paul (in the New Testament) and Moses (in the Old Testament) would write it to be acceptable, but instead, both say it is unnatural and is not accepted.
There is a level of friendship. There is best friend, and just friends.Do you deny the words of Jesus and call yourself religious ?
If it was clear and right (now basing of Biblical views), then Paul (in the New Testament) and Moses (in the Old Testament) would write it to be acceptable, but instead, both say it is unnatural and is not accepted.
I tried to steer away from using religion as an argument but since this subject is used, I will be answering.
Do you deny the words of Jesus and call yourself religious ?
Dude, physics is science. Physics is a nature science (or whatever is it called on english language), and the law of magnetism say that same poles defect each other. Same is with humans. Same sexes should defect each other. End of story. That is the law of nature.Physics is basically the study of matter and its motion and is a far cry from human mating.
That is the law of nature.Laws of nature, unlike laws of say a country, are unbreakable. The very existence of homosexuals nullifies your point.
I saw that someone posted that i shouldnt compare magnetism to what we are discussing ATM. I cant remember who posted that. Anyway, here is my reply to that person:
Dude, physics is science. Physics is a nature science (or whatever is it called on english language), and the law of magnetism say that same poles defect each other. Same is with humans. Same sexes should defect each other. End of story. That is the law of nature.
Read my posts better. I never said he had homosexual relations. I said he sanctioned a bond between two males.
Show me exactly the words that say He had homosexual relations with disciples.
I saw that someone posted that i shouldnt compare magnetism to what we are discussing ATM. I cant remember who posted that. Anyway, here is my reply to that person:Then explain Bonobo's, gay wolves and other animals with the same behaviour.
Dude, physics is science. Physics is a nature science (or whatever is it called on english language), and the law of magnetism say that same poles defect each other. Same is with humans. Same sexes should defect each other. End of story. That is the law of nature.
Read my posts better. I never said he had homosexual relations. I said he sanctioned a bond between two males.
Nathan ok then put your own theory to the test. You say it is your choice to be a straight. Now here is a test for you. Go find a video clip of lets say a young quite attractive female pleasuring herself. The result should be that you should get aroused. Now according to you, you can change your orientation. So please do and go to chat-roulette and see if you can get aroused by just seeing the people there as well.I see the tables have turned to attacking me personally. Personally, I would like the answers of why should this nonsense be allowed. We can easily see history repeats itself. See ancient Greeks, then enter the loss of morality with acts such as men having sex with other men and the society begins to fall apart, same goes for ancient Romans. Once a country or a nation loses it's morality and a true standard that actually makes sense, it begins to crumble.
I see the tables have turned to attacking me personally. Personally, I would like the answers of why should this nonsense be allowed. We can easily see history repeats itself. See ancient Greeks, then enter the loss of morality with acts such as men having sex with other men and the society begins to fall apart, same goes for ancient Romans. Once a country or a nation loses it's morality and a true standard that actually makes sense, it begins to crumble.Did you really just blame the fall of Greek and Roman society on homosexuality...
I see the tables have turned to attacking me personally. Personally, I would like the answers of why should this nonsense be allowed. We can easily see history repeats itself. See ancient Greeks, then enter the loss of morality with acts such as men having sex with other men and the society begins to fall apart, same goes for ancient Romans. Once a country or a nation loses it's morality and a true standard that actually makes sense, it begins to crumble.That makes no sense at all. No one really cared if you were homosexual back in the good ol' days, ESPECIALLY Greece, considering Christianity wasn't around during that time. The Christian church during the late Roman Empire actually set homosexuals on fire.
Dude, physics is science. Physics is a nature science (or whatever is it called on english language), and the law of magnetism say that same poles defect each other. Same is with humans. Same sexes should defect each other. End of story. That is the law of nature.
I see the tables have turned to attacking me personally. Personally, I would like the answers of why should this nonsense be allowed. We can easily see history repeats itself. See ancient Greeks, then enter the loss of morality with acts such as men having sex with other men and the society begins to fall apart, same goes for ancient Romans. Once a country or a nation loses it's morality and a true standard that actually makes sense, it begins to crumble.I can't believe what I've just read is for some people a serious argument...
Did you really just blame the fall of Greek and Roman society on homosexuality...
That makes no sense at all. No one really cared if you were homosexual back in the good ol' days, ESPECIALLY Greece, considering Christianity wasn't around during that time.Of course no one cared, but great philosophers such as Plato were against it and knew that it was against the natural.
Homosexuality wasn't considered "abnormal" until Christianity was spread around like leprosy. Everyone was all fine and dandy.Wrong again. Torah, which was dictated by God to Moses, which has Leviticus in it. As we all know the following were some of the verses:
...Now tell me how the second part pertained to my post?
You blamed Christians for burning homosexuals. That is like blaming all the current day Germans right now for the Holocaust or blaming all Americans for sending out the Native Americans. Something that happened in the past shouldn't be pertained to current day situations.
The Christian church during the late Roman Empire
during the late Roman Empire
You claim that I'm blaming every single Christian for the Christian Church's burning of homosexuals during that time period in a way that a simple bigot thinks every German is responsible for the tragic deaths during the Holocaust. I was simply emphasizing that it was the Christian Church of the late Roman Empire that did the burnings, and not every Christian alive today.
Explain to me how it's relevant to the current discussion.
You claim that I'm blaming every single Christian for the Christian Church's burning of homosexuals during that time period in a way that a simple bigot thinks every German is responsible for the tragic deaths during the Holocaust. I was simply emphasizing that it was the Christian Church of the late Roman Empire that did the burnings, and not every Christian alive today.How is the corrupt Roman Church related to this discussion?
Segregation was commonplace for thousands of years before mid 20th century
However, what do you have to say about Romans 1:26-27?
"(26) Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. (27) In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."
People like you support em just because it is "modern", and authorities approve it.Just like it is "modern" to support rights for black people and women, am I right?
You people are so easy to manipulate...Coming from a religious person? How f**king laughable. :lol:
In nature, same sex animals do not attract each other.Actually, they do.
Also in physics, take magnetism. Magnets of the same sex (sry if that is wrong expression, but i do not know how to say that 2 same parts of magnet repel each other) repel each other.Are you really comparing biological sexuality to magnetism..?
Dude, physics is science. Physics is a nature science (or whatever is it called on english language), and the law of magnetism say that same poles defect each other. Same is with humans. Same sexes should defect each other. End of story. That is the law of nature.Fair enough, but also you should remember that if you pour oil into a cup of water, the oil will stay together with the rest of the oil, and will not intermingle with the water. Therefore, homosexuality is natural, because science.
Then explain Bonobo's, gay wolves and other animals with the same behaviour.
With magnetism the laws are unchangeable, you can not create a defect magnet.
Similar sexual preference that is genetically created can not be altered.
If you read a little more above it says:
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised. Amen.
As far as I know right now (I'm not a home and my study material is not available), this is probably referring to the tribes of Israel who basically were doing the follow: They, when being controlled by the judges, were under control of themselves and did what was right in the Lord's view. But when the judges seized to exist, they did what was right in their eyes and therefore had a loss of morals to God stepped in. I maybe wrong right now, I'll look it up when I get home in a few days.
Homosexuality ties to the fall of morals. Alone, of course homosexuality wasn't the key to the fall, but we all know that when the morals dropped, a society is no longer able to function.Of course no one cared, but great philosophers such as Plato were against it and knew that it was against the natural.Wrong again. Torah, which was dictated by God to Moses, which has Leviticus in it. As we all know the following were some of the verses:
Leviticus 18:22, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Leviticus 20:13, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Now, I do not accept the death of homosexuals nor favor what the other guy has said about concentration camps, because:
John 13:34, "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
Since it still remains a sin, the follow actions should be taken instead:
Matthew 18:15, "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over.
Therefore, instead of shoving it down their throat saying that they will go to hell and basically shun them out of society, that wont do any good to the person. So instead, a Christian would tell that person his/her fault and that he/she should change it. Again, non in an agressive way because we all know that you can never get anyone to believe using fear.
Just like it is "modern" to support rights for black people and women, am I right?
if your gay, move to Canada
>Problem Solved
I see the tables have turned to attacking me personally. Personally, I would like the answers of why should this nonsense be allowed. We can easily see history repeats itself. See ancient Greeks, then enter the loss of morality with acts such as men having sex with other men and the society begins to fall apart, same goes for ancient Romans. Once a country or a nation loses it's morality and a true standard that actually makes sense, it begins to crumble.Ancient Greece - Dudes wrestling each other naked in a ring and covered with olive oil. Also there was lets say peculiar relationships between a greek soldiers and their adolescence squires. Ancient Rome started to fall apart right about the same time Christianity was accepted as the countrys religion.
How is the corrupt Roman Church related to this discussion?The Great Schism hadn't happened back then, so it was all one single church. The orthodox are as much to blame as the catholics for ruining the glorious Roman empire.
What the use of gays in human society? Can you name atleast 5 gays that actually contributed to human race in any kind of way?
How are my statements blasphemy?
How are my statements blasphemy?
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There is a question i should have asked you long time ago:
What the use of gays in human society? Can you name atleast 5 gays that actually contributed to human race in any kind of way? (Dont start to BOMBARD me with comments "and what did you do". My answer to them is: Hey, am too young to do anything. Well see when i get older.)
Can you name 5 Catholic zealots who contributed to the human race in any way?
Don't get me wrong, I don't have much love for the Curia either.
There's probably at least 5 Renaissance popes who are responsible for patronizing the great painters / artists and making them remembered until today, Julius II for example. What we know as the great classical arts were propagated by Scumbags and Saints. :rules:
Don't get me wrong, I don't have much love for the Curia either.
Notice how I underlined the word zealots, as in people who do nothing but quote the bible and dismiss others as heretics all day every day.
Plenty of popes have been open minded, there have even been homosexual popes.
Fair enough, but also you should remember that if you pour oil into a cup of water, the oil will stay together with the rest of the oil, and will not intermingle with the water. Therefore, homosexuality is natural, because science.
Do Saints / Theological Fathers / <insert term for religious people who defined custom> count?
There is a question i should have asked you long time ago:
What the use of gays in human society? Can you name atleast 5 gays that actually contributed to human race in any kind of way? (Dont start to BOMBARD me with comments "and what did you do". My answer to them is: Hey, am too young to do anything. Well see when i get older.)
The Great Schism hadn't happened back then, so it was all one single church. The orthodox are as much to blame as the catholics for ruining the glorious Roman empire.Wooow, a GREAT contribute to human society!.............NO! (i have some toughts and facts about catholics that are just not sutable for this topic in any way, and i dont support them at all. Ill post it if we get a politics and religion topic some day. All amma say is that am orthodox, and i have my own reasons)
Freddie Mercury (one of the greatest singers of our time), Stephen Fry (an excellent entertainer), Alan Turing (scientist, contributed to computer science), Oscar Wilde (a great writer), J Edgar Hoover (the director of the FBI)
Can you name 5 Catholic zealots who contributed to the human race in any way?
> Implying being gay means you contribute any less then any other person. If your talking about "Hur dur gay people can't have children so they dont contribute to society hur" then you forget that in this day and age, many straight couples dont even have kids and in fact prefer not to because modern society,(atleast in the west) has promoted this dual income partnership where both the man and women work and make large sums of money they want to spend on themselves instead of kids. You also forget that many gay people either adopt children or have a surrogate mother to give birth to a child that is genetically their own.
TLDR: What you put your dick inside of does not change what you do with your life, your point is invalid. Next.
Wooow, a GREAT contribute to human society!.............NO! (i have some toughts and facts about catholics that are just not sutable for this topic in any way, and i dont support them at all. Ill post it if we get a politics and religion topic some day. All amma say is that am orthodox, and i have my own reasons)
WTF?! Comedian? Wooow, a great use.
Director of the FBI? Heck, he only used to USA, nothing more.
Oscar Wilde? Yes, he did contribute. Writers are extreamly useful.
Stephen Fry? Entertaining? Contributing? Those 2 just dont go togeather.
Alan Turing? Good for him, I support what he did. That guy surely contributed to human society ALL over the world.
So, in my eyes, only 2 out of them 5 are valid. That FBI dirrector J Edgar, only contributed to USA, so amma count him as a "half".
In human history there are many, many, many straight guy's that contributed individualy MORE to human society than ALL GAYS EVER ALIVE.
Moose, GREAT amount of children adopted by gays, often BECOME gay's THEMSELVES. MANY gays, dont even have children by surrogate mother or anything else. So, THEY DO NOT contribute to humans, infact they are making WHITE PLEG spread faster. I bealive you did not take this into your calculation.
NEXT!
Alek, you have been indoctrinated with homophobia.
Wooow, a GREAT contribute to human society!.............NO! (i have some toughts and facts about catholics that are just not sutable for this topic in any way, and i dont support them at all. Ill post it if we get a politics and religion topic some day. All amma say is that am orthodox, and i have my own reasons)
WTF?! Comedian? Wooow, a great use.
Director of the FBI? Heck, he only used to USA, nothing more.
Oscar Wilde? Yes, he did contribute. Writers are extreamly useful.
Stephen Fry? Entertaining? Contributing? Those 2 just dont go togeather.
Alan Turing? Good for him, I support what he did. That guy surely contributed to human society ALL over the world.
So, in my eyes, only 2 out of them 5 are valid. That FBI dirrector J Edgar, only contributed to USA, so amma count him as a "half".
In human history there are many, many, many straight guy's that contributed individualy MORE to human society than ALL GAYS EVER ALIVE.
Moose, GREAT amount of children adopted by gays, often BECOME gay's THEMSELVES. MANY gays, dont even have children by surrogate mother or anything else. So, THEY DO NOT contribute to humans, infact they are making WHITE PLEG spread faster. I bealive you did not take this into your calculation.
NEXT!
The gay marriage I referred to was the icon of Sergius and Bacchius, an openly gay couple who were killed for being Christian. You will see icons where they are displayed wearing a clear marriage bond, with Jesus looking on in approval.From Wikipedia, "...were third century Roman soldiers..."
From Wikipedia, "...were third century Roman soldiers..."In The Netherlands full equal rights are given to same-sex marriages as to different-sex marriages. The person performing the wedding has a limited right to refuse performing the service if he feels against it based on religious grounds, provided there is a replacement available.
Since it's outside the Bible sphere and isn't included in the Canon we have today, I honestly don't see if Jesus approved this or not. But that's strictly my opinion, one can differ.
Having a Protestant background, our teachings say it is wrong and we base it on the Bible.
I have a question for those of the European countries, what rights (if given) are allowed for homosexuals?
Moose, GREAT amount of children adopted by gays, often BECOME gay's THEMSELVES.Got any source for that?
MANY gays, dont even have children by surrogate mother or anything else. So, THEY DO NOT contribute to humans,So you're saying that straight couples without children inherently contribute nothing to society?
Guys you realize you're trying to argument with some stubborn brainwashed child? Best thing is to ignore him and let him live in his fairytale really...I'd love to, but if you do not educate the children then they will not educate their children, and the cycle of ignorance (and hate) will continue forever.
In the UK homosexual couples in civil partnerships have the same legal rights as straight married couples, as far as I know.
I have a question for those of the European countries, what rights (if given) are allowed for homosexuals?
In human history there are many, many, many straight guy's that contributed individualy MORE to human society than ALL GAYS EVER ALIVE.
I have a question for those of the European countries, what rights (if given) are allowed for homosexuals?[/font]
In human history there are many, many, many straight guy's that contributed individualy MORE to human society than ALL GAYS EVER ALIVE.That's because homosexuals are a minority.
MANY gays, dont even have children by surrogate mother or anything else. So, THEY DO NOT contribute to humans, infact they are making WHITE PLEG spread faster. I bealive you did not take this into your calculation.Perhaps if you said this 200 years ago you'd be right. Today the world's population is growing very rapidly and not everyone has to contribute in this way.
We have very little instances in which homosexuals are being persecuted by the general public.Well first of all we do not have that many public gay figures and even if there is some stories about gays it is more viewed as stories about eccentric people, nothing to do with sexuality at large.
So, gayness is WRONG.Your god might think so, and to each their own, but I don't think Christian "morals" advocate curb stomping someone just because they're homosexual.
You have not address the point of how many straight couples don't have children, so whats the difference? You also don't seem to have the capacity to understand that someones sexual preference does not change what they do with their life. Think before you respond to something and actually address the argument instead of just throwing around words.
Name one. Jesus Christ doesn't count.
That's because homosexuals are a minority.
I know ALOT of straight couples. All of em have ATLEAST 1 child.There are several billion heterosexual people, but you only named 7 that contributed. That's an even lower success rate.
Nikola Tesla
Albert Ainesteine
Lav Nikolaevic Tolstoj
Bill Gates
Puskin
Winstone Chercile
George Patton
etc..
etc...
So? There is (i think) 100 millions or so (again, MY estemation).
Ok, there is 100 millions of them, and 2-3 contributed in any kind of way...
>Winstone ChercileI love this.
Wooow, a GREAT contribute to human society!.............NO! (i have some toughts and facts about catholics that are just not sutable for this topic in any way, and i dont support them at all. Ill post it if we get a politics and religion topic some day. All amma say is that am orthodox, and i have my own reasons)You idiot. Comedy and enternatinment are very important. Actually they're one of the things the most important for most of the humanity. Life would be dull and tasteless without them. Don't go disrespecting comedians, entertainters and writers like that. This is really offensive for me. At least comedy doesn't give false hopes to people, it actually makes them happy.
WTF?! Comedian? Wooow, a great use.
Director of the FBI? Heck, he only used to USA, nothing more.
Oscar Wilde? Yes, he did contribute. Writers are extreamly useful.
Stephen Fry? Entertaining? Contributing? Those 2 just dont go togeather.
Alan Turing? Good for him, I support what he did. That guy surely contributed to human society ALL over the world.
I know ALOT of straight couples. All of em have ATLEAST 1 child.
Nikola Tesla
Albert Ainesteine
Lav Nikolaevic Tolstoj
Bill Gates
Puskin
Winstone Chercile
George Patton
etc..
etc...
So? There is (i think) 100 millions or so (again, MY estemation).
Ok, there is 100 millions of them, and 2-3 contributed in any kind of way...
Albert Ainesteine
Winstone Chercile
I know ALOT of straight couples. All of em have ATLEAST 1 child.
Since, i see that many here support gays, answer me to this question:God did not create anything. Since it does not exist. Gays on the other hand, exist and they are living around us. You gave us a list of people who you thought were heterosexuals who contributed to humanity. How do you know if they were not secretly gay?
What is "normal" and "OK" in 2 males kissing each other, holding hands, placing dicks up each others asses? I dont wanna go off or something too much, and transfer to religion but, did God create Adam and Eve, or Adam and Steve?
You idiot. Comedy and enternatinment are very important. Actually they're one of the things the most important for most of the humanity. Life would be dull and tasteless without them. Don't go disrespecting comedians, entertainters and writers like that. This is really offensive for me. At least comedy doesn't give false hopes to people, it actually makes them happy.This. In dark times, comedians take on a larger role, as by bringing smiles to society they are giving additional morale for the people.
>Winstone Chercile
:o
aleksandar_gojkovic, let's assume for a moment that human history turns out different and religion was erased from the picture. No more Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, or Bible / Koran verses that condemn homosexuality.
What then remains to prove homosexuality as a fundamentally wrong or false idea? Please answer the question without dragging in any religious arguments, as we are talking in terms of a hypothetical religion-free world.
I compleatly understand his decision.
In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)
Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!
FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!
Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!
If it was up to me i would:
Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.
Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.
End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.
Note:
I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry :D
Oh oh! I'd like to answer this one. Our biologic structure is made to complete each other. Therefore, a man has a dick for a reason, and a woman has a cunt for a reason. Together, it results in procreation. Otherwise, say man to man, or woman to woman, it results to nothing.
I presume that you use yours only for procreation and not any other reason ?
Oh oh! I'd like to answer this one. Our biologic structure is made to complete each other. Therefore, a man has a dick for a reason, and a woman has a cunt for a reason. Together, it results in procreation. Otherwise, say man to man, or woman to woman, it results to nothing.
I would like to see him come here and say these things instead of hiding in his enclosed little homophobic country.Will do as soon as you give me 500 euros for a plain ticket. I forgot the ticket to come back, wich would be another 500 euros.
aleksandar_gojkovic, let's assume for a moment that human history turns out different and religion was erased from the picture. No more Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, or Bible / Koran verses that condemn homosexuality.
What then remains to prove homosexuality as a fundamentally wrong or false idea? Please answer the question without dragging in any religious arguments, as we are talking in terms of a hypothetical religion-free world.
Oh oh! I'd like to answer this one. Our biologic structure is made to complete each other. Therefore, a man has a dick for a reason, and a woman has a cunt for a reason. Together, it results in procreation. Otherwise, say man to man, or woman to woman, it results to nothing.
You have serious problems mate, Love the irony tho', Priests abuse kids all over the world aswell, but yet you say we should listen to them.
Your great ideas are somewhat comparable to Hitler ones buddy, And you know what influences your behaviour ? Your growing need to prove your manhood by saying we should shoot gays, but FYI, even gays can be more "manly" than you.QuoteWho gives a f**k, we're humans, we think, we can put our dicks wherever the f**k we want. I'm assuming your agaisnt masturbation aswell, since it results in jack shit and it is not completing each others biologic structure.
What about letting homosexuals lead the world? We've seen how straight ones have ruled it so far..
Males would have male bodies, and "female brain". Therefore, they would poop theyre pants,pfhahaha
Thinking like woman, gay men, would not make any technological advance in stone age, and we would survive.You seem to think that gay men and women are alike in some meaningful way. Care to elaborate?
Human race would be destroyed with white pleg.What?
I don't see how taking some cock up the ass makes you a halfwitted primate?Well, he seems to imply that being a gay man makes you have the brain of a woman, which according to him is roughly the same thing.
White pleg... You seriously do not know what white pleg is :trust: ? It is really easy to find on google :)DUDE, your f**king kidding me?!
And yes, gay's and women are alike.
By thinking the same. I do not know 1 gay person who has balls... Seriously, they act like women. Theyre FEMALES in MALE bodies. That is seriously not wrong.
White pleg... You seriously do not know what white pleg is :trust: ? It is really easy to find on google :)"White pleg" on google yielded nothing of use. Neither did white plague or anything similar. What are you referring to?
By thinking the same. I do not know 1 gay person who has balls... Seriously, they act like women.Care to expand?
Theyre FEMALES in MALE bodies.This is just completely incorrect. You clearly haven't even the slightest idea what you're talking about.
By thinking the same. I do not know 1 gay person who has balls... Seriously, they act like women.This is calling 'being feminine,' but whats wrong with the way someone chooses to live and plus not all gays are feminine, if you got off your computer and stepped out of your house for an hour in your life maybe you'd see the real world and real people out there.
And yes, gay's and women are alike.
By thinking the same. I do not know 1 gay person who has balls... Seriously, they act like women. Theyre FEMALES in MALE bodies. That is seriously not wrong.
And yes, gay's and women are alike.
By thinking the same. I do not know 1 gay person who has balls... Seriously, they act like women. Theyre FEMALES in MALE bodies. That is seriously not wrong.
White pleg... You seriously do not know what white pleg is :trust: ? It is really easy to find on google :)
By thinking the same. I do not know 1 gay person who has balls... Seriously, they act like women. Theyre FEMALES in MALE bodies. That is seriously not wrong.
"White pleg" on google yielded nothing of use. Neither did white plague or anything similar. What are you referring to?Ok:
Care to expand?
This is just completely incorrect. You clearly haven't even the slightest idea what you're talking about.
Aleksandar, in some cases gays are a good thing, for example the human population is increasing way to fast and by 2030 worldwide hunger and starvation is predicted due to the population constantly getting bigger and bigger every day, gays cannot have kids which means theres some less people to make the population bigger, there will always be straight people and gays on this planet, just like there will always be blacks whites and inbetween (saying half cast can be seen as racism), people that are as shallow as you are honestly worthless to the human race, if you tried to get a job in your country and said one of your main things of your personality was that you hate gays you'd never get a job, and don't bring 'no because everyone in my country hates gays' here because you know for a fact thats bull shit and that half of your country and as sickly minded or unhumane as yourself, you appear to be slagging the gay population off in order to make yourself look more straight, which isnt really working, I'm not gay but I'm saying what your saying is very wrong, you don't have to hate gays to be straight if thats what your trying to do.This is calling 'being feminine,' but whats wrong with the way someone chooses to live and plus not all gays are feminine, if you got off your computer and stepped out of your house for an hour in your life maybe you'd see the real world and real people out there.
Seriously Aleksander, who the f**k are you to judge people?
You are a nobody.
decrease of population is one of the BIGGEST problems. Decrease of population in Serbia is one EXTREAMLY negative thing.
And less of you people is a problem how?
And less of you people is a problem how?
2. Why wouldnt i get job in my country? Who SERIOUSLY GIVES A f**k if you hate gay's, as long as you have finished strong college?By accepting someone that is openly a homophobe, employers risk damaging their companies reputation, as well as face a possible lawsuit, for example if one of their homophobic employees suddenly decided to discriminate someone based on their sexual orientation.
By accepting someone that is openly a homophobe, employers risk damaging their companies reputation, as well as face a possible lawsuit, for example if one of their homophobic employees suddenly decided to discriminate someone based on their sexual orientation.I do hate gay's, but i have enough selfcontroll, not to discriminate them at work.
And less of you people is a problem how?Moose, what i forgot to add is that Canada is no less, and no more important than Serbia.
I think Justin Bieber is happy now =):lol:
And dolfagr, i am no better than them, and I am aware of that. Also I never said that i am better than anyone. I never did. Check all my posts.
Ok:1. What?
White pleg first has NOTHING to do with actuall pleg. It is just named that way. (i dont know the reason). White pleg is actually a decrease of human population due to people not having children.
1. Mikal... You are what your sorrounding is.
2. Why wouldnt i get job in my country? Who SERIOUSLY GIVES A f**k if you hate gay's, as long as you have finished strong college?
3. In your eyes i am shallow, and you seriously cannot bealive on what level i do not care that i am shallow in eyes of some British guy.
4. In case of Serbia, decrease of population is one of the BIGGEST problems. Decrease of population in Serbia is one EXTREAMLY negative thing. So gay people here are BAD thing.
ALSO
I can judge people as much as i want. Who the f**k are you to forbid me that? And, when you take a look at yourself, the way you looked at me, YOU are nobody TOO.
Who SERIOUSLY GIVES A f**k if you hate gay's, as long as you have finished strong college?
I do hate gay's, but i have enough selfcontroll, not to discriminate them at work.
And less of you people is a problem how?
let's assume for a moment that human history turns out different and religion was erased from the picture. No more Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, or Bible / Koran verses that condemn homosexuality.
I compleatly understand his decision.
In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)
Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!
FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!
Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!
If it was up to me i would:
Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.
Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.
End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.
Note:
I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry :D
I would like to remind you that discrimination against a lesbian or gay person is illegal in Serbia, just like many countires in the "west" as you keep perpetuating us as.Its legal in Russia tho.
You hate somebody because of their sexuality? So if your best friend came and told you he was gay, you would never speak to him again? Get a damn grip.I would cut his balls off, and the worst part is, he would enjoy it! :lol:
plz keep islam i need my 72 virgins :fly:
And less of you people is a problem how?HEY WHOA. SLOW DOWN THERE, HOT ROD.
The Koran never said they had to be women. They could actually be trannies or video game basement nerds. :DTo be fair the koran didn't say they were virgins, it said they were grapes.
say whaaaat?Yea, the actual correct translation of that varies between 72 virgins, 72 angels, and 72 fruits.
On a serious note, I'm against sexual expressing in public, everyone should stick their sexual life at their house, hotel, or what ever. Be what ever you want to be, its your choice, but you dont need to spam my everyday with your sexual orientation, I get it.Giving a farewell kiss to your girlfriend at the train station - 3 days in a county jail.
Yea, the actual correct translation of that varies between 72 virgins, 72 angels, and 72 fruits.
Giving a farewell kiss to your girlfriend at the train station - 3 days in a county jail.Yeah why not, make it 5 days if you used the tongue.
Having gay people going to rehab? You serious?kinda off-topic but there (were I guess, dunno if people still run shit like that) illegal rehabs where you paid shitload of cash and you got tied up in a basement, they put gay porn on and anytime you had erection they electrocutted your dick. Google it if you don't believe me, I remember watching documentary about it on TV long time ago.
You can't possibly mix a kiss on the street with having a gangbang at the park, or walking around wiggling with your 'pride' without your pents on.. First one is love, second one is mental illness.
This exactly is why I loathe gay pride parades. In free (and "free") countries, it's enough that gays are free to have their sexual orientation. However, semi-naked man doing open-mouthed kisses in the park is something else.
If anything, they should be thankful that they can do anything they want to each other in their bedrooms without the danger of having a CIA / FBI van parked outside because they are homosexual.
In general, people do not have a problem with homos, as long as they don't homo all over the straight man.
Parades are public celebrations of homoing, so people get m3d.
No but seriously, it's probably the nudity.
I wouldn't want to see a parade filled with half naked fat hairy women, so I'm definitely not watching a parade filled with half naked fat hairy men.
(I still haven't been to a gay parade myself, but the general idea you get from google is not a pretty sight.)
I personally never understood the need to celebrate ones sexuality.
Yeah why not, make it 5 days if you used the tongue.Where have you seen a gangbang at the park? Also is it ok for straights to gangbang? Why did I give that example was that kissing your girlfriend is also expressing your sexuality, showing that you are straight.
You can't possibly mix a kiss on the street with having a gangbang at the park, or walking around wiggling with your 'pride' without your pents on.. First one is love, second one is mental illness.
Where have you seen a gangbang at the park? Also is it ok for straights to gangbang? Why did I give that example was that kissing your girlfriend is also expressing your sexuality, showing that you are straight.You're just using those parts of my quotes that feeds your argument, you obviously took the 'gangbang' part, and avoided the 'wiggling with your pride'.
I don't see what the problem with pride parades are, but then again, I come from the country with one of the worlds largest so.
I don't have a problem with homosexuals what so ever, but the parades take it one step too far for me. You don't see straight people parading about celebrating their heterosexuality.
Also, even having a T-shirt 'Female Body Investigatior' is expressing your sexuality, but you can't compare its acceptance by society, with having a parade of naked people, wiggling their 'pride' without their pents off, like Abe said.
Don't know did you intenionaly tried missreading my reply, or not, but in any case you did it.
First thing, so you have freedom parades in your local area nearly everyday?
On a serious note, I'm against sexual expressing in public, everyone should stick their sexual life at their house, hotel, or what ever. Be what ever you want to be, its your choice, but you dont need to spam my everyday with your sexual orientation, I get it.
Here's a question as you would have nothing against straight couple kissing in public for farewell. Do you have anything against gay couple doing the same?
I don't have a problem with homosexuals what so ever, but the parades take it one step too far for me. You don't see straight people parading about celebrating their heterosexuality.Ever seen carnaval in Rio de Janeiro ?
Pride parades are wrong, and do nothing to help any of the genuine issues faced by the LGB community.
The problem is that gay pride parades are more of "I'm naked and gay day", "Watch me wiggle my pride around day", and "Two fat hairy men kissing in public day" rather than a decent celebration of gay rights.
You definitely don't see straight people parading in orgies down the road because they're straight and capable of natural sex.
Supporting your rights is definitely different from waving them in the faces of everyone else.
First thing, so you have freedom parades in your local area nearly everyday?Not yet, but its going that way, and 90 percent of the population doesn't like it. If you go against the will of the ultimate majority of a society, that's not only against democratic values that you love so much, but its also against your liberal ideology, cause then the will of minority goes over the will of majority, which makes people feel like living under dictatorship, where small minorities have bigger power and rights, then the majority. No one should deny any rights that goes to minority groups, but forcing those rights beyond freedom is violating someone elses right, which is never good, specially if its directed toward the majority. There's also a question of moral and tradition inside that society that shouldn't be played with.
Also yes I did intentionally ignored the wiggling part because that was not the initial issue I was pressing. I was just simply stating that according to your initial post you do not like if people straight or gay show their sexual preferences in public, which also includes farewell kisses ( with more infatuation than needed) and your later Female Body Investigation example as well. Although as you later told, you only have problems with the public actions that might break the societies moral barrier, like gangbang in a park or parading around mostly naked. I do agree with you as I do not like those freedom parades myself, for the same reasons that Abe already said. But as you know most gays do not go to these events or not like that at all.Exactly, we agree on this, like I said above, in Serbia for example, people feel like someone from abroad is forcing those parades that are not even vistied by real lgbt people, but more as one of many attacks on our way of thinking, moral, and tradition, to break the last national spirit that we posses in ourselfs.
Here's a question as you would have nothing against straight couple kissing in public for farewell. Do you have anything against gay couple doing the same?I saw it a few times, and I was grossed since I can't imagine kisisng another man, so cause of my sexuality in me I was grossed, but I didn't do anything to confront them, attack them, or what ever, I just kept on walking, cause I dont really care who's kissing who, as long as they don't disturb me and my fellow ones.
Let's all get together and have a straight pride parade and f**k hookers in the street while beating my wife.Do I get to go to both types of parade? :poke:
Do I get to go to both types of parade? :poke:No, they're called LGBT parades for a reason. enjoy your aids
We had that example when a grandfather was walking with his 8 year old grandchild, and one of those parades were happening, in which that kid saw people completly naked, kissing and touching each other. Knowing that most of the people in his country doesn't approve of such, the grandfather felt like he was a stranger in his own country, or 2nd line citizen.Show me a video/pictures of that parade or tell me what year it was in.
GAY PRIDE BELGRADE / PARADA PONOSA BEOGRAD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l6cC37ZDDY#)
Show me a video/pictures of that parade or tell me what year it was in.I can't even post that video here, cause people on it are literarly sucking each other dicks. And I wasn't refering to Gay Pride in Serbia, but for example San Francisko's one.
The only video that (barely) shows the actual parade rather than baboons rioting I could find was this. It has no naked people, everyone is fully clothed GAY PRIDE BELGRADE / PARADA PONOSA BEOGRAD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l6cC37ZDDY#)
I can't even post that video here, cause people on it are literarly sucking each other dicks. And I wasn't refering to Gay Pride in Serbia, but for example San Francisko's one.
I can't even post that video here, cause people on it are literarly sucking each other dicks. And I wasn't refering to Gay Pride in Serbia, but for example San Francisko's one.
yeah... no they would get arrested for that.
Lots of people get away with things they are supposed to be arrested for. :devroll:
No way in hell you will get away with having sex with someone in public.Actually in Hell you just might get away with it.
Show me a video/pictures of that parade or tell me what year it was in.Still, we do not support it, amd we fought for HETEROSEXUAL RIGHTS WICH ARE NOT TO WATCH THOUSAND OF GAYS ON THE STREETS! WE PROTESTED FOR DAYS, IN PEACE AND NOTHING HAPPENED! WHEN NEGOTIATIONS FAIL, BRUTH FORCE IS COMING IN!
The only video that (barely) shows the actual parade rather than baboons rioting I could find was this. It has no naked people, everyone is fully clothed GAY PRIDE BELGRADE / PARADA PONOSA BEOGRAD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l6cC37ZDDY#)
What you call strange, we call seeing the truth.
If you just knew some stuff about your goverment and about forbidden history, you would think the same as me. But, that is not for this topic.
If I was born in your f**ked up country with your f**ked up extremist indoctrination.. Yes, I would think the same as you do.
We have some good Serbs in this community, so do not say Serbia is a f**ked-up country with f**ked-up extremist indoctrination.
Or you could continue, and we could just all assume that all Dutch smoke weed and bang hookers every day.
See what I did there?
I have dealt with enough Serbian people at work to understand they are not the nicest people in the world, and thats an understatement.
We have some good Serbs in this community, so do not say Serbia is a f**ked-up country with f**ked-up extremist indoctrination.
Or you could continue, and we could just all assume that all Dutch smoke weed and bang hookers every day.
See what I did there?
Dutchy, i dont think that a country with so many weed addicted junkies is such a good country. JDC, thanks for pointing that out.
Ya see now? All countries got it's advantages and flaws.
That is because, your bosses are jackasses. Worse than here. My aunt lives in Canada, and she constantly complains about her boss.
Guys, please keep the topic clean, don't be a poster child as to why P&R can't be resurrected.
Actually, The Netherlands has a really low amount of drug abuse. I call extreme homophobia a big flaw.Phobia is FEAR of something. I am not afraid of gays. I just hate them, and that is all. And homophobia is not a flaw at all.
No, its because Serbian people make up the majority of our gang crime and they seem to make up a large portion of the people we always deal with in domestic calls. My boss has nothing to do with it, its you people constantly committing crimes in my country.
Phobia is FEAR of something. I am not afraid of gays. I just hate them, and that is all. And homophobia is not a flaw at all.
And homophobia is not a flaw at all.Do you also not consider racism a flaw?
What makes these kinds of prejudices acceptable?
Do you also not consider racism a flaw?Racism-flaw.
What about sexism?
What makes these kinds of prejudices acceptable?
Ok, now you just took a really big piece of shit. Having one mafia does not make all Serbs automaticly mobsters, all are criminals. You really judge people more than me
Hunderds of Serbs? Please, now that cannot posseably be true unless you went to Chicago.
No, honestly, of the hundreds of Serbian people I have ever met in my life, maybe 3 of them were actually good people, one of which is in this community, the other 2 are women. Your attitude just continues to support my view.
Hunderds of Serbs? Please, now that cannot posseably be true unless you went to Chicago.
KFOR commander on Kosovo, when came to belgrade, he said that people there are very good, and nice, dispit the fact that he and his forces are HURTING THEYRE PEOPLE ON THE BORDER. Please, you know nothing bout us.
Racism-flaw.
Sexism-flaw.
Racism-flaw.
Sexism-flaw.
Homophobia-not a flaw.
I just hate them, and that is all.You're going to hell, then. Better learn to love thy neighbor as you love thy self, or you're going to be sizzlin'.
I know a couple of serbs myself, all friendly although prone to violence, Aleks might be a homophobe but you're talking like a racist my friend.
Racism-flaw.Why?
Sexism-flaw.
Homophobia-not a flaw.
If you think from a biological point of view, both Homosexuality and Homophobia are flaws. Homosexuality because it is a difference in a brain that deviates from what the human body was programmed to do (i.e: reproduce), and homophobia because of its similarity to racism.
Which is why I do not align myself with either.
If you think from a biological point of view, both Homosexuality and Homophobia are flaws. Homosexuality because it is a difference in a brain that deviates from what the human body was programmed to do (i.e: reproduce), and homophobia because of its similarity to racism.From a purely biological point of view, homosexuality is a flaw with homophobia being irrelevant. However, I'd like to think that the civilised world has evolved beyond the point of raw biology and has moved onto better things like intelligent society.
From a purely biological point of view, homosexuality is a flaw with homophobia being irrelevant. However, I'd like to think that the civilised world has evolved beyond the point of raw biology and has moved onto better things like intelligent society.
As in, you don't discriminate against homosexuals as long as they don't touch you?
Or.. You're straight?
at least in Holland most homosexuals are normal people who wear normal clothes and behave normally in public
You should be thankful then, as such is not always true in some other parts of the world.
Quite so. I have homosexual acquaintances of my ownlolz
I want in on this!
2-3%?
Probably even less.Indeed.
I know a couple of serbs myself, all friendly although prone to violence, Aleks might be a homophobe but you're talking like a racist my friend.
BECAUSE SERBIAN IS A RACE RIGHT?
If someone hates the Americans, it makes them racist. The second you start disliking the Norwegians a place in hell becomes reserved for you due to RACISM.
He didn't talk shit about all white people, he only criticized the Serbs.
Who cares? Racism or ethnocentrism? Essentially the same thing anyway..
I would. Refering to a nationality as a race is an insult and might even be considered ''racism'' on its own.Or the other way around...
Because here we take everything literal.I take words for what they mean, yes. How else would I interpret them? There is no other way here, so argueing that I take words ''literal'' really has no point.
FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!
Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!
If it was up to me i would:
Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.
Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.
End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.
Who cares? Racism or ethnocentrism? Essentially the same thing anyway..
If you're walking out on the street alone at around 11PM and you see a big, burly guy in a leather jacket walking towards you, do you feel absolutely calm? It's completely natural to heighten your guard because due to it being late at night it might be a mugger or some other kind of criminal. You don't know him at all, and he might even be the jolliest and friendliest person in the world, but you still judge him by the way that he looks.How is that racism..? Big burly guys in leather jackets are not a race, nor are they an ethnic group.. :rofl:
Apparently doing that is racist, according to your logic.
How is that racism..? Big burly guys in leather jackets are not a race, nor are they an ethnic group.. :rofl:
If the guy was black, my reaction wouldn't really be any different from that to a white guy..
When will people learn that we are all humans. A black, slav, asian, latino, or european is just a variation of you.
If it was up to me i would:
Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.
Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.
Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.
I didn't even mention black or white and yes, while your reaction would always be the same, if it was a black guy and you acted scared or cautious, it would be immediately branded racism. "Racial profiling" and whatnot.Which, by Russian definition, does not make it racism.
If you've had a lot of bad experiences with some ethnic group, such as Safetymoose with Serbians, it's only natural to be wary of them, even if you've only come into contact with the worst of the worst.
Aleksandar, I hope someone f**ks you in the ass one day.
God
he made a mistake
Then f**king call it something else and stop bad girling about what some bad guy does when he's home alone with his bear.
This whole "man and woman" bible shit is getting kinda old, why do people seem to give so many shits what others do, stop being a f**king cunt and focus on your own life for once and maybe you'll get somewhere.
CHRISTIAN ALERT
Do you have any idea how many those kids will have to suffer? They will be bullied, insulted, abused, beaten because their parents are gay/lesbian.
I don't bully homosexuals. Actually if anyone in my school bullies someone for being homosexual they can wear the print of my ring on their forehead. Do you bully homosexuals?
I do not.. Infact im not exactly straight, if you know what i mean.. But untraditional marriage is just WRONG.
Yet, there arent many people like you, so if people manage to find even minorest reasons, such as red hair to bully people, homosexuals would be piece of cake.
Yes, there aren't many people like me in the world. There are places all over the world where homosexuality is considered a crime against nature. Obama is trying to make the USA a place where homosexuals are LESS discriminated, not MORE. On one hand you're saying ''No mariage for homosexuals'' and on the other you're saying ''This will lead to kids being bullied'' ... And denouncing mariage for homosexuals is not bullying them?
I do not.. Infact im not exactly straight, if you know what i mean.. But untraditional marriage is just WRONG.
Yet, there arent many people like you, so if people manage to find even minorest reasons, such as red hair to bully people, homosexuals would be piece of cake.
By marrying, those people KNOW what theyre doing, and they know they WILL be bullied for it.
Now they adopt a careless and not aware child, with a vision that a family has to consist of "Dad and dad", he will have a different point of thinking and he most likely will get bullied at school and his personality will be destroyed. Did the kid have a choice? No, but the parents did have one.
If the USA is LESS discriminating, the chances are less for kids like that to be bullied.
ASOD?!"PE!WD????!??????WAT?????
I do not.. Infact im not exactly straight, if you know what i mean.. But untraditional marriage is just WRONG.
Yet, there arent many people like you, so if people manage to find even minorest reasons, such as red hair to bully people, homosexuals would be piece of cake.
People need to start minding their own f**king life's, You're not exactly straight yet you disaprove that 2 people that love themselves may not be bound by such thing as a marriage.
I believe gay parents can provide more love to their kids than many straight couples.
by giving the kid a hardtime of being the only one with gay parents in his friends?? hahahaha
a way too big picture
I'm not sure how they give more love towards a child.
Do you have any idea how many those kids will have to suffer? They will be bullied, insulted, abused, beaten because their parents are gay/lesbian.What fucking barbarian school did you go to?
Besides, being BI is nothing close to being homosexual.Actually it's about halfway there, or somewhere in between.
What f**king barbarian school did you go to?
fall in love with another man
want to marry him
With that thinking, world will never become a better place.
Besides, being BI is nothing close to being homosexual.
Actually it's about halfway there, or somewhere in between.This.
Come back and tell us that you think gay marriage is sick and wrong when you fall in love with another man and want to marry him.
With youWhat?
What?
I'll do it if hes paying for dinner..Absolutely nothing. Just as none of us bring our opinions and other preferences into topics unless it's relevant, there's really no reason to get on those who have different sexual preferences just because they aren't the same as someone else's.
If I'm honest I dont see the problem with my community excluding the open ones, they I can agree are a pain in the ass. However most of us keep to ourselves and live our lives, for example I will only bring my sexuality into a topic if its relevant. So answer me whats wrong with that?
i love all these people using the argument about
"if they are gay kids at school will make fun of them"
if that is true then you have a problem with your country not the gay community. When I wa sin school if anyone made fun of a gay kid he would kick the shit out of whoever was bullying him. These threads make me thank my lucky stars I live in Canada... Could not stand living in a country with a society from the dark ages...
CHRISTIAN ALERTSeriously.. :pop:
doesn't matter, he'll still be looked as the "gay stranger guy" in every community
No actually, gay people live side by side with society over here and are treated no differently. If someone says they are gay people usually respect them even more.
My neighbours and work collegues know I'm gay and I know they dont know me as "gay stranger guy"
Learnt this from a letter regarding my cars engine noise, I am known for leaving in random hours for work and waking people up not for my sexuality.
but it comes up into consideration always, for straight people I meanNot always. I don't question people's sexuality one bit, and I'm straight. I don't even consider it unless they make it relevant in some way. Sexual preferences don't define who we are, just what we prefer.
No actually, gay people live side by side with society over here and are treated no differently. If someone says they are gay people usually respect them even more.
Unfortunately, in many parts of the world, homosexuals are not given equal respect (as human beings) as they are being given in Canada.
I know that, what bothers me is that people have this attitude that negative attitude will never change or its impossible... We have certainly achived it, I dont see why the rest of the world can't... The bottom line is its education and schools need to teach students about both sides at some point.
No. I don't see a good reason why the educational system has to waste time telling kids about the 1% of the society that isn't normal. They have better things to worry about and occupy the children's thinking with.And yet the schools see fit to waste time telling kids about islam and muslims.
No. I don't see a good reason why the educational system has to waste time telling kids about the 1% of the society that isn't normal. They have better things to worry about and occupy the children's thinking with.You mean that schools should ignore information about trolling ? :wow:
Regarding homosexuality, during sexual education would be a good time to inform children that they may develop such feelings, and that this is not something abnormal or a mental disease.
And yet the schools see fit to waste time telling kids about islam and muslims.
Also it's far closer to 10%, by the way.
Regarding homosexuality, during sexual education would be a good time to inform children that they may develop such feelings, and that this is not something abnormal or a mental disease.
Looking from any perspective, telling kids about islam is far better than telling them about homosexuals.
since homosexuality is a fact of life
Religion should not be taught in the public school system. If parents or students want to learn about their faith they should go to schools run by a religious board. That is why we have Catholic Schools, Islamic Schools and Jewish Schools. The standard public school system does not and should not teach children about ANY religion and thats why its like that now. it needs to remain a neutral system. Teaching children about sexual education is both science and biology, which is a standard course for almost every school I have ever heard of, now, since homosexuality is a fact of life, I dont see why it should be removed since it is an aspect of science and biology to a degree.
The whole point of reaching to the children with education about religion is to get a wide open perspective about religion, and not what they teach you in a Catholic school where they are taught that every other religion is wrong.
Exactly. Teaching children about various religions such as Islam will only be beneficial and not brainwashing. After all, their freedom of choice is absolutely guaranteed and they aren't forced to follow any specific belief. On the contrary, teaching them about homosexuality is a waste of time whereas they can easily learn about it sooner or later from their community.
Exactly. Teaching children about various religions such as Islam will only be beneficial and not brainwashing. After all, their freedom of choice is absolutely guaranteed and they aren't forced to follow any specific belief. On the contrary, teaching them about homosexuality is a waste of time whereas they can easily learn about it sooner or later from their community.Catholic religion: we are right all others are wRONg.
Catholic religion: we are right all others are wRONg.
Islam: we are right all others are wRONg.
Jehovah: we are right all others are wRONg.
End of class.
Teaching children about various religions such as Islam will only be beneficial and not brainwashing. After all, their freedom of choice is absolutely guaranteed and they aren't forced to follow any specific belief. On the contrary, teaching them about homosexuality is a waste of time whereas they can easily learn about it sooner or later from their community.
You don't have to look at it from that perspective. It's about acquiring knowledge.What knowledge is to be acquired if you look from a neutral point of view ?
Homosexuality, from a biological perspective, is a flaw. This is because sexual species (such as humans) are designed for intercourse between opposite genders. However, it is still part of life (and biology, somehow) and should be taught along with the necessary sex education.I did not propose to include it in biology, although when handling things like DNA and genes it could be.
What knowledge is to be acquired if you look from a neutral point of view ?
Getting closer to the truth.Atheism ?
Atheism ?
Not necessarily.So you believe the truth is subjective ?
The whole point of reaching to the children with education about religion is to get a wide open perspective about religion, and not what they teach you in a Catholic school where they are taught that every other religion is wrong.
So you believe the truth is subjective ?
They are taught religion so they can have the freedom to choose what ever they think is the truth, and:The thing is that if they are taught religion they should be taught the subject in full, not having some people from a religion coming in to recruit.
Not everybody is an atheist.
Of course this is a very difficult target to accomplish and of course many schools believe it as useless. The training to choose what ever path they wish to choose with a summary and encouragement (includes reasons to believe) will give them (not limited to, however) a clear idea of other eligions, as I have seen people within Argonath are confused of.Why should religion class encourage and give reasons to believe? That is not their task unless the school is specific for one religion, in which case the religion program I suggested is certainly not going to be taught.
No, just no. The truth is by definition objective.So you believe the truth is subjective ?Of course.
Now, studying the reasons behind religion from an objective standpoint, and examining why religion exists from a cultural and psychological point of view.. that is something that would actually interest me from an educational point of view.
As with me. However, that is something I have yet to see in any single school over here. :DSame here, sadly.
Of course.Actually there is not. The word truth is closely linked to 'trust' which means that one believes something to be true, not that it is a scientific fact.
No, just no. The truth is by definition objective.
You can call it subjective all you like, but there is only one actual truth.
Actually there is not. The word truth is closely linked to 'trust' which means that one believes something to be true, not that it is a scientific fact.Yea, I guess from that use of the word it is indeed subjective (in that it's what someone genuinely believes to be true). However, when speaking of "the truth" in a more general sense (rather than a personal one), I usually take that to mean "the factual truth", hence my claiming it to be objective.
There for the truth is always subjective, as your truth and my truth can differ based on our set of beliefs.
Someone can tell the truth and still be wrong.
Yea, I guess from that use of the word it is indeed subjective (in that it's what someone genuinely believes to be true). However, when speaking of "the truth" in a more general sense (rather than a personal one), I usually take that to mean "the factual truth", hence my claiming it to be objective.That is from your position as atheist. When religious people talk about 'finding the truth' in religious context, it is bound to be a subjective matter. ;)
Of course.
No, just no. The truth is by definition objective.
You can call it subjective all you like, but there is only one actual truth, only one thing that is actual fact.
However, when speaking of "the truth" in a more general sense (rather than a personal one), I usually take that to mean "the factual truth", hence my claiming it to be objective.
Teaching children about various sexual preferences such as homosexuality will only be beneficial and not brainwashing. After all, their freedom of choice is absolutely guaranteed and they aren't forced to follow any specific preference. On the contrary, teaching them about religion is a waste of time whereas they can easily learn about it sooner or later from their community.
That is from your position as atheist. When religious people talk about 'finding the truth' in religious context, it is bound to be a subjective matter. ;)
Why should religion class encourage and give reasons to believe? That is not their task unless the school is specific for one religion, in which case the religion program I suggested is certainly not going to be taught.And it is not their task to speak about religion in the first place. By encouragement and give reasons to believe I meant evidence to support it. And no, I do not mean it specifically for Islam, but other religions as well.
How would you define the difference between "telling the truth" and "stating the facts"?If you tell the truth, you can be wrong about the facts. If you state the facts, they can not be subjective. Only interpretation of the facts can differ.
Why isn't the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (http://www.venganza.org/about/) mentioned? :conf:Not enough active believers. Apart from it being sposored by the Italian Mafia.
And it is not their task to speak about religion in the first place. By encouragement and give reasons to believe I meant evidence to support it. And no, I do not mean it specifically for Islam, but other religions as well.A public school giving education about religion should not do 'recruiting' but limit to objective information. As soon as they start encouraging any kind of religion, they lose their function of public school.
A public school giving education about religion should not do 'recruiting' but limit to objective information. As soon as they start encouraging any kind of religion, they lose their function of public school.Well, you have a point there but:
Of course this is a very difficult target to accomplish and of course many schools believe it as useless. The training to choose what ever path they wish to choose with a summary and encouragement (includes reasons to believe) will give them (not limited to, however) a clear idea of other eligions, as I have seen people within Argonath are confused of.
The point is that public schools are supposed to be neutral and there for either have to teach a program as I suggested, or none at all. A neutral program could handle psychology of why people believe and discuss the benefits and negatives of religion. However encouraging to believe is something that should never happen on a public school.
Good luck finding it.Why thank you. As someone who does not follow any religion, I did not give up my search for answers and accept an easy one in the form of a religion, and thus I still search for further truths. It is likely that they will not be greatly revealed in any big way within my lifetime, but that's okay because the search for answers itself is what brings great benefits, rather than any kind of specific result.
Does it exist?Of course. There is always a factual answer to any question, whether we know it yet or not.
The thing is that if they are taught religion they should be taught the subject in full, not having some people from a religion coming in to recruit.
So here is the program for religion class:
Part 1 : Prehistoric religion
- Archeological evidence of religion worshipping the sun, moon and other natural events
Part 2 : Ancient religion
- Rites of Druids
- Egyptian, Sumerian, Indian and Chinese ancients religious works
- Aztek
- Mayan
- North-American native religions
Part 3 : Multitheism
- Greek
- Roman
- Norsk
- Asian
Part 4 : Modern religion
- Christianity
-- Catholic
-- Orthodox
-- Protestant
-- Mormon
-- Jehovah
- Islam
-- Sunni
-- Shi'ite
- Hinduism
- Buddhism
- Sikhism
- Judaism
- Baha'i
- Confusianism
- Jainism
- Zoroastrianism
- Shinto
- Taoism
- Wicca
From all these religions the following will be mentioned:
- Origin of mankind
- Religious rules
- Manner of praying
- Claims of truth
- Idea of afterlife
- Position against non-believers and other religions
I sincerely doubt that many schools woud dare to give this program in religion class, as it is bound to get protested against by parents.
Also I doubt that any student of this program will choose a religion without being influenced by their community.
Not enough active believers. Apart from it being sposored by the Italian Mafia.
You forgot 1 religion:Good catch (pun intended) ;)
It is one amongs the first religions of Europe, and it existed from around 7000 B.C. to around 3000 B.C.
It was ancient religion of Serbian people wich celebrated a God-fish that lived in the water. That was because ancient Serbian tribes lived on the shores of danube and out of all they ate they ate 70% of fish, so therefeore theyre God was some kinda of fish God.
It is ancient Serbian religion and it goes under ancient religions along with Egyptian, Aztec, Mayan and North American religions.
Just a correction :D
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So, flying spaggeti monster church is an OCCULT, a SECT. When a religiouse group breaks apart from original church it becomes a SECT. Also, new religion with such small amount of followers is also a SECT.
Whell, instead of anti relligion, id prefer to say that that church is made in order to make fun of all religions of the world. Yea, it is just some joke, no matter what those guys say.
Yeah, you guys really like to make fun. Probably why you are all recognized as clowns :lol:
The point is that public schools are supposed to be neutral and there for either have to teach a program as I suggested, or none at all. A neutral program could handle psychology of why people believe and discuss the benefits and negatives of religion. However encouraging to believe is something that should never happen on a public school.Agreed 100%. I sat through a year of Catholic High School, various other years of schools that taught general ideas about various religions throughout history, and lived with an aunt for another year that was a hardcore Jewish believer. I'm Atheist by choice of my beliefs because I chose to learn about religion from a historical point of view, and not judge my personal views on what others have told me, but instead based on facts and opinions presented to me so I could form my own thoughts on the subject.
Why da f**k are you attacking me? Dude, UMAD? Lay off foo! Only clown here is you making posts without any meaning whatsoever.
While i am trying to say something youre acting as an idiot. Just chill.
You are the person thats mad here, trying to restrict every single piece of humanity left in your already restricted mind. :)
I am reporting you. And, i aint restricted. I think out of the box, I DONT THINK WHAT THE GOVERMENT TELLS ME TO THINK! I DO NOT THINK WHAT HUGE BRANDS TELL ME TO THINK! I DO NOT DO SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE IT IS NOW "OK"! I DO NOT SUPPORT SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE THE WORLD SAYS I SHOULD! I HAVE MY OWN BEALIFES, I SUPPORT WHAT I THINK I SHOULD SUPPORT!
I TURNED OFF THE PROGRAM THAT CONTROLES US! I AM THINKING WITH MY OWN HEAD!
Now GTFO AND STOP TROLLING ME!
I refuse to listen to you, until you learn to have a mature conversation.
When i say something that BEATS you, when i say the TRUTH it hurts you. Be a real man AND ACCEPT IT.Stop provoking him. When you posted in this forum, you agreed to disagree with others of whom you do not share the same opinion with. It does not suddenly allow you to begin breaking the forum rules to attack anyone who doesn't believe the same thing you do.
When i say something that BEATS you, when i say the TRUTH it hurts you. Be a real man AND ACCEPT IT.
Are you really trying to force your absurd believes on me? I have absolutely no intentions to restrict a wad of peoples lives, as you do. You do not follow what the government tells you? You do not follow the other ones? Please, give me proof that everyone in Serbia supports gay marriage and homosexuality in general. I would like to see that. Serbia is probably the most homophobic country in Europe at this very moment, and I am sure that you are influenced by your state.Aksel, don't provoke him back either. This is only feeding a useless fire that is taking the topic to a place it does not need to be. Just walk away and cool off so you both can avoid a punishment. This is a place of discussion and the fighting is not needed.
Aksel, don't provoke him back either. This is only feeding a useless fire that is taking the topic to a place it does not need to be. Just walk away and cool off so you both can avoid a punishment. This is a place of discussion and the fighting is not needed.
Are you really trying to force your absurd believes on me? I have absolutely no intentions to restrict a wad of peoples lives, as you do. You do not follow what the government tells you? You do not follow the other ones? Please, give me proof that everyone in Serbia supports gay marriage and homosexuality in general. I would like to see that. Serbia is probably the most homophobic country in Europe at this very moment, and I am sure that you are influenced by your state.
The only reason why I don't want to discuss with you is because you can't manage to control yourself. I don't want you to get banned.
Dude, nobody likes you
They can all start supporting gays, I WONT.
And thats great! I respect you now. But the thing is, you should keep your opinion to yourself, and not try to ban them from the world. You feel me?
Eh, according to you new world people this is a free world right? I can say all that i want. Aint that nice a?
This isn't about politics. This is about moral, you know. If I didn't like watermelon (lubenice), and you didn't... I wouldn't kill you for that. :)
That is diffrent than the gay thing. Very diffrent. Also, when i look at this I CANT GET IT ABOUT GAYS:
That is diffrent than the gay thing. Very diffrent. Also, when i look at this I CANT GET IT ABOUT GAYS:And to them, they don't understand why you don't like the same gender instead of the opposite one. :P
And to them, they don't understand why you don't like the same gender instead of the opposite one. :P
Dude, WHAT IS NOT to love about beautiful girls with big boobs and great ass? Seriously.
You don't know, as you are heterosexual.
Ok, you can put it any way you want, i i, i just cant get gays!
Ok, you can put it any way you want, i i, i just cant get gays!Because you don't share the same opinion as them. Don't forget, there are also bisexual people who prefer both genders. They like what you like, and what you don't like. ;)
Because you don't share the same opinion as them. Don't forget, there are also bisexual people who prefer both genders. They like what you like, and what you don't like. ;)
Because you don't share the same opinion as them. Don't forget, there are also bisexual people who prefer both genders. They like what you like, and what you don't like. ;)
Ok, than amma find a BI guy and ask him/her what he/she likes more: oposite or same sex. Any BI guys viewing this page?I've spoken with multiple friends and acquaintances over the years who are bi, both male and female, and it appears to be that some will prefer men, some prefer women, and some have an equal preference. There are also some who base their preference based on who their heart becomes set on. Two of my past ex-girlfriends were also bi, one preferring girls and the other preferring guys.
East and west are diffrent in every way.Although cultural differences do influence many of our differing opinions, that'd be a stereotype as not every single person in each location would disagree on those things. Some may, and do, agree on some of the subjects. The influence just isn't that strong in those locations because society's view on the subject tends to overshadow any other thoughts.
Also @Nathan_Alexandrow
First how did you "USE" to be BI, and second, wich sex did you like best, same, or diffrent?
I hope we can end this for today with this post. I still think one thing, you still other, period.
Good question, in my twenties I drifted between being Bisexual and Homosexual in the end I went off women, now I would say I'm 80/20 for men so I would class myself as Homosexual and to answer your second question I drifted between the two.
Ok, amma hit the bed, good night, gonna continoue this discussion tomorrow, or day after tomorrow when i rest like a boss.Night man! Was nice discussing things with you. :)
Aigh peace!
Whell, you just dont know what youre missing :O
Ok, amma hit the bed, good night, gonna continoue this discussion tomorrow, or day after tomorrow when i rest like a boss.
Aigh peace!
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