Back when Ancelotti was active we did many roleplays we had never seen in argonath, and almost everytime we were told to stop. We tried to block roads and roleplay illegally extorting truck drivers for money to pass. The result? Move your cars or i'll ban you. .
What can a dealer to? Same as Trucker:
1. Call the Police, not admin.. Cause its a illegal job, not rulebreak, the police should protect you, and take care of those thugs.
2. Call the FBI, not admins. Cause its the FBI job to go after ORGANIZED CRIMINAL GROUPS, not members of the HQ while trolling with them.
3. Hiring your own personal security. Again, Matute's Granny Protection Agency is full of work and roleplay, gg!
You don't wanna roleplay? /q
Me and Dexi went to stop and rob some random trucker.You got in the way of his money munching, of course he'll report. The greed is unreal these days.
It was no any diferent rob scenario from any other... we cut the trucker way, we exit the car with the guns in hand and start to ROLEPLAY. And what we get? ASAP /report from the other player "DM" . Why calling them? Call the police. We stoped you, you continued driving, we shot ur tyres. That is NOT dm that is mafia ROLEPLAY !
The only thing that I have to go against is the one about the casinos, sure you can claim its your territory when you don't own it, but you can not go around killing players for not leaving the casino even if you claim its your territory unless you actually own the property.If you roleplayed it correctly, and you warn those people several times, yes you can, AND SHOULD kill them(ofc not instantly, warning shots, beating up, and as a final measure, killing him), that's what criminals usually do to people who act that way. They don't sit around reading law do they? Also they got all the time in the world to:
One trend that has grown is players screaming to admins when someone tries to interact with them because "hes dming me/hes harassing me" and other nonsense. Some simply do not understand how a roleplay server work.What's funny is that if these people get attacked in a roleplay but they fight off their attackers successfully, they don't report a thing. They only report it if they lose that fight.
On the other hand, when this happen, and admins don't go doing what I'm point out they are doing, that will teach those kind of players to roleplay next time properly, not scream for admins when ever the roleplay scenario doesn't suit them.Killing is only allowed under RP circumstances you can't just kill someone to teach him a lesson thats against the rules... You're not responsible for punishing a player for a rulebreak (in this case it is "Ignoring RP") thats admins duty so instead of shooting the guys report him for ignoring RP and you won't get punished for DMing
Including the fact that when a criminal interact with citizens his hand is always on the gun's trigger waiting for just 1 wrong word comming out from the citizen so he can shoot him.That's not true though. Why would a criminal want to shoot a guy and get wanted, then have to escape. Doesn't make any sense.
You should always think what made the citizen report you? he doesn't want to roleplay or he doesn't want to get robbed for the 20th time at the same day?Neither of those are valid reasons for /report, though. If you really don't want to be involved, you can usually work a way out of the RP quite quickly, or simply PM the guy explaining why you don't want to be involved. In the event that you literally don't have time to be involved, tell them that. Nobody will kidnap someone who is going to /q for dinner in 2 minutes.
instead of shooting the guys report him for ignoring RP and you won't get punished for DMing
That's not true though. Why would a criminal want to shoot a guy and get wanted, then have to escape. Doesn't make any sense.Many criminals do kill just to get wanted, I had many cases where criminals DMed someone just to go 4 wanted guys in a car unstoppable waiting for SWAT and FBI to come.
Neither of those are valid reasons for /report, though. If you really don't want to be involved, you can usually work a way out of the RP quite quickly, or simply PM the guy explaining why you don't want to be involved. In the event that you literally don't have time to be involved, tell them that. Nobody will kidnap someone who is going to /q for dinner in 2 minutes.No you're wrong you're obligated to RP in every RP scene the only way to escape RP is to Roleplay your way out of it shortly (ofcourse unless the player have to go).
No, no, no! This is the exact thing the topic was about. Don't be so flippant with your use of the /report.Well sorry to blast your bubble you're not allowed to kill citizens to "teach them a lesson"
Hell, "ignoring RP" isn't even against the rules.
It was pleasure reading your point of view and I agree on many you stated above.
But you should understand that citizen's most hated RP scenarios are with criminals since all what happens to them is getting robbed , humiliated or kidnapped by criminals.
Including the fact that when a criminal interact with citizens his hand is always on the gun's trigger waiting for just 1 wrong word comming out from the citizen so he can shoot him.
You should always think what made the citizen report you? he doesn't want to roleplay or he doesn't want to get robbed for the 20th time at the same day?
I suggest you start developing new roleplay scenario where citizens will actually have fun getting robbed and humiliated, when you make the roleplay different, interesting.. the player would have fun even though he is being robbed and pushed and kicked and killed and kidnapped.
as for the Admins matter, I agree.
The staff shouldn't interrupt any roleplay scene unless it is getting out of control and rules are being broken...
Tottaly agreed on this, but it's not always admins foult sometimes the players themselfes make this kind of situation.
For example:
Me and Dexi went to stop and rob some random trucker.
It was no any diferent rob scenario from any other... we cut the trucker way, we exit the car with the guns in hand and start to ROLEPLAY. And what we get? ASAP /report from the other player "DM" . Why calling them? Call the police. We stoped you, you continued driving, we shot ur tyres. That is NOT dm that is mafia ROLEPLAY !
So my point is: Sometimes its players foult that you get admins interupting our ROLEPLAY and getting that attitude "Get lost or get ban". It seems like the players are bored of RP so they don't even want to involve in any of them... You might say that i truck all day but i NEVER refused an RolePlay scenario even if i had to die and lose guns+cargo for example.
That's not true though. Why would a criminal want to shoot a guy and get wanted, then have to escape. Doesn't make any sense.
Got banned once for a situation of extortion with reason : Forcing Roleplay (The user do not want to roleplay with you). Since that day i never repeated Extortions. I hope this post will make others think well in order to extend the roleplay factions which criminals should do.Forcing roleplay is another rule that is misunderstood even by a lot of members of the administrations. The rule "no forcing roleplay" doesn't mean that it gives you the right to not interact/roleplay with others who are trying to interact with you. You're on a roleplay server and if someone tries interacting with you then you're entitled to do so as well. What the rule really protects against is for example if a group/mafia kidnaps you, they don't have the right nor can they force you to, let's say, keep you locked in a room for days. In these cases you can report the player.
Owning a casino or any other property also doesn't give you the right to kill someone, unless of course you have a good reason for it. Yesterday four or five Gvardia members were in Four Dragons Casino, waiting for gamblers to come. Some guy comes in and starts being a dealer one table next to ours, obviously trying to steal customers. We tell him to leave SEVERAL times, but of course he doesn't because "we don't own the property". We give him another option: Pay 25 percent of the earnings or he will be forced to leave, of course he disagrees again and disrespects us, so he got dropped and there was a perfect reason behind it. You don't disrespect a ruthless mafia especially in their territory, you're bound to get whacked and everyone should be aware of that. Anyways, apart from that, what I really didn't like is that the player came back 2 minutes after he died and continued gambling at the SAME spot he got killed at. To my understanding, this is returning and I believe you're not allowed to return to the place you were killed, especially if the players that killed you are still there. He gets /report'd and the one moderator online claims that "everyone is allowed to use the casino because it's not owned". A owned property is a role-play thing and returning after death is rule break, I don't know how these two things are able to be defended by one another...
The only thing that I have to go against is the one about the casinos, sure you can claim its your territory when you don't own it, but you can not go around killing players for not leaving the casino even if you claim its your territory unless you actually own the property.
Because what else would they do? Criminals don't seem to know anything else. Get suspected, kill some cops, die, repeat. It is fun, honestly.
Forcing roleplay is another rule that is misunderstood even by a lot of members of the administrations. The rule "no forcing roleplay" doesn't mean that it gives you the right to not interact/roleplay with others who are trying to interact with you. You're on a roleplay server and if someone tries interacting with you then you're entitled to do so as well. What the rule really protects against is for example if a group/mafia kidnaps you, they don't have the right nor can they force you to, let's say, keep you locked in a room for days. In these cases you can report the player.
LoHi I know you want to express your opinion, just don't provoke others
Criminals sure have the potential to lead the most awesome RPs ingame...
What I find funny is, after SOME cops pull you over (trying to avoid generalisation since they don't all do it, point is they can), whatever they say doesn't matter, because the gist of it is "Pay a $250 ticket or I'll kill you". Somehow this isn't forcing RP, which implies a badge has more power to force RP than a gun does. I fail to see a distinction between that scenario, and an Ancelotti roadblock other than a blue name above the guy's head.
What I find funny is, after SOME cops pull you over (trying to avoid generalisation since they don't all do it, point is they can), whatever they say doesn't matter, because the gist of it is "Pay a $250 ticket or I'll kill you". Somehow this isn't forcing RP, which implies a badge has more power to force RP than a gun does. I fail to see a distinction between that scenario, and an Ancelotti roadblock other than a blue name above the guy's head.
Or you could go to the station, get an investigation and possibly even get the officer to trouble (by reporting them for false ticket or suspection on SAPD forums). :rolleyes:You could also cut a deal with Ancelotti. As you see, there is always another option when roleplaying instead of reporting the player straight just because you don't like it.
I suggest you start developing new roleplay scenario where citizens will actually have fun getting robbed and humiliated,
One trend that has grown is players screaming to admins when someone tries to interact with them because "hes dming me/hes harassing me" and other nonsense. Some simply do not understand how a roleplay server work.
It's about time to start enforcing punishment for false reports again so people will learn one way or another when to report and when to actually think.
No, even in the most creative scenarios 98% of citizens wont enjoy it. And enjoying it defeats the purpose of robbing/extortion .No, you're wrong.Citizens will enjoy when we tell them in OOC or pm that we wont take real money, wont kill him
Or you could go to the station, get an investigation and possibly even get the officer to trouble (by reporting them for false ticket or suspection on SAPD forums). :rolleyes:Only way I can prove my innocence is if I record every second of my gameplay, or the accusing cop acts like a total retard during the investigation.
Or you could go to the station, get an investigation and possibly even get the officer to trouble (by reporting them for false ticket or suspection on SAPD forums). :rolleyes:
it all start with "Stop your car!"How else would you ask someone to stop ? oh, sometimes you also get warned for "you're not a cop to pull over people".
and ends with" /send or someone killed"That's a rulebreak.
No, you're wrong.
when the criminal start caring for the roleplay more than they do for the money . The citizen will start enjoying a nice quality RP scene and would probably happily giveout that money to the robber.. but since all the rob scenarios on Argonath are the same, there is nothing to enjoy about it...
it all start with "Stop your car!"
and ends with" /send or someone killed"
Only way I can prove my innocence is if I record every second of my gameplay, or the accusing cop acts like a total retard during the investigation.
Just wanted to respond, don't mean to derail the topic.
Yeah but when you go to LSPD 99.99% your still given a guilty verdict by the Police because no one believes a criminal anyways. Then who has the time to take "RP" evidence to SAPD forums for one retard who probably doesnt even give a fuck about a SAPD career or getting copbanned or a newbie who probably may not even come back to the server when he /q's ?
Citizens will enjoy when we tell them in OOC or pm that we wont take real money, wont kill him
I guess I should make a guide on how to do that, it's very easy. :rolleyes:(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2j1ww3s.jpg)
-How else would you ask someone to stop ? oh, sometimes you also get warned for "you're not a cop to pull over people".
Or Civilians most times assume is the same so they report before any interaction. Y'all are in denial and are total blind because you role play on the other side of the fence. Most times criminals are reported just because they are criminals. These days as soon as a crime is committed you get instantly frozen by and admin before even starting to evade and by the time your done explaining you are already surrounding by the boys with blue names.You keep trying to look for excuses, I am stating fact not expressing possible option I have participated in many many robberies and kindaps at the victim side and I always face the same routine... this isn't fun.
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Please clarify what you're getting at, so I can shape a response.
When you answer my quotes please elaborate so I can understand what you mean...Reported for ramming. Of course there are ways, but that's that one gets the job done. :lol:
You can ask someone to stop by using /me to express signs this usually takes time for drivers to type and drive so the Co- Driver should do it... or try to slow down the car till it stop because if we keep having the same routine of STOP THE CAR trust me no one would like to roleplay with such criminals...
didn't understand what you meant with: That's a rulebreak... well it is a rulebreak you stating a fact or trying to tell me something ?
Reported for ramming. Of course there are ways, but that's that one gets the job done. :lol:To be honest I lost you..
It's a rulebreak, as in, really a rulebreak. Like forcing to /gu.
To be honest I lost you..
none of what I mentioned is a rulebreak... you always try to park the car infront of the vehicle and not PIT it to the side or ram it with all your power... you can turn anything good into a rulebreak if you don't really do it right...
/send or someone killedTHIS. IS. A. RULE BREAK. This can be reported and it's valid. The point of the topic is... Go read it again.
THIS. IS. A. RULE BREAK. This can be reported and it's valid. The point of the topic is... Go read it again.... Dude You stating facts again I didn't disagree with you but sadly thats what happen each kidnap robbery RP ends with paying the guys or getting killed...
This started as a topic with a great point...Because you claim it is just admins fault why criminals don't roleplay anymore... when it is criminals fault too why they don't change the routine RPs of kidnapping and robbing...
... got derailed into yet another cops vs criminals shitfest...
This started as a topic with a great point...
... got derailed into yet another cops vs criminals shitfest...
This started as a topic with a great point...Your posts are on the fast tracks of becoming a total shitfest.
... got derailed into yet another cops vs criminals shitfest...
Your posts are on the fast tracks of becoming a total shitfest.
Not every discussion is an arguement with no sense. Discussing solves things and can prevent problems from appearing, let people talk
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shouldn't you make a statement instead of encouraging such posts?
As if you sticking your nose into bussiness that shouldn't concern you is any better. Shove your personal disatisfaction with me up your area where sun doesn't shine and keep away. Thanks.
To my understanding, this is returning and I believe you're not allowed to return to the place you were killed, especially if the players that killed you are still there.
Statement about what? I'm not their babysitter.You're also not a comedian, so stop always trying to be a troll in these kind of topics in attempt to derail them.
I think your understanding is rather off .. no return refers to the situation, and is particularly aimed at those who return to help buddies!Players have been punished for what I stated. In RS4 I was once killed at a weed spot by police, and as I think about it, one of the police officers was Cyril. After I died I went to get my weed but I was TP'd away from the spot and was told that I couldn't return. In the meantime cops were just taking the drugs.
In the case you refer to, that player is allowed to return, that player is not involving you, if you want to get involved, thats not them but you ..
(http://imageshack.com/a/img23/1364/7xg.gif)If you would be able to do something else than this, oh boy things would be different.
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Quoting Devin from a locked unban request topic
"Do you know what they call such people?
[Answer :hah:]
Can I have some please.
As for the other points. An admin should never stop someone from interacting with other people in a role-play point of view. Blocking the road, asking for taxes, etc, etc, etc. Yet players should also not shoot someone because they do not agree with someone, or claim something as theirs. I do not mind if the players would role-play this properly. For example, coming with a group of 'fat' mafia members and beating the guy up, dragging him out of the building and making sure he doesn't get in. That way you show off an image, just shooting someone in his face just gets them pissed off and makes them return to the situation, even if this is not allowed.
If you roleplayed it correctly, and you warn those people several times, yes you can, AND SHOULD kill them(ofc not instantly, warning shots, beating up, and as a final measure, killing him), that's what criminals usually do to people who act that way. They don't sit around reading law do they? Also they got all the time in the world to:
1.Move away, or/and
2.Call police, SWAT, FBI, private security, their own mobsters, etc.
3. Fight back for their place into this profitable business.
Being a stubborn clown and not doing any of the things above(with usual screaming /s im just gonna respawn hahahahah, i call admins, u all reported), while surrounded by several criminals, who are into a roleplay with you, aiming at you, and warning you what's gonna happen next, then you deserve to die. And that's criminal roleplay as well, people should deal with it already.
What creativity are you talking about when refering to bank robbery?Stick to posting pop corn pictures. You're a typical example of why this topic was made.
The only bank robberies that are denied by administration are the one where criminals gather 25 people, calling 911 or using /ad saying the bank is being robbed and all aiming at the door, waiting for cops to enter to blast them.
If you want to do that, I'm sure you can organize it in paruni server.
you got no right in denying anything.
Gladly:
Last I remember CL are above managers. Just cause you and your pals decided to throw shit on one of them, and embarrassed the whole HQ and the Community by doing it, doesn't mean others gonna tolerate your behavior. Specially cause you did it to a person such as Dell. IF Ron was around you would be long gone for what you did to Dell anyway.
You're a manager, and you're gonna listen what owners/CL tells you to, whether you like it or not. So if CBF(and not just CBF) approved this scenarios hundred of times till now, you as a manager can only apply with it. Or resign if you don't like it.
And Staff members are above you.
If they tell you to do something, you are gonna listen.
And Staff members are above you.Between listening to a manager who trows shit on CL and trolls around every single topic on the forums, and to a long lasting CL(Specially if its someone like CBF), I as a player am obligated to listen to the CL priorly. Just like I'm obligated to listen to the owner above all.
If they tell you to do something, you are gonna listen.
You really shouldn't speak about situations you are not involved in or aware of. This spreads higher than you could think and the owners are already aware of the situation with Dellstorm. But of course you wouldn't know anything about that as it does not concern you.I agree Devin it doesn't. And I didn't intend to. But Cyril asked for a explanation, and I gave him. Hope its all clear now Cyril.
Between listening to a manager who trows shit on CL and trolls around every single topic on the forums, and to a long lasting CL(Specially if its someone like CBF), I as a player am obligated to listen to the CL priorly. Just like I'm obligated to listen to the owner above all.
Specially cause you did it to a person such as Dell. IF Ron was around you would be long gone for what you did to Dell anyway.
An admin should never threaten with a punishment,Then why are you even still an admin ? :uhm:
Those who are against admins; Why don't you leave the community and let the admins play for themselves?No, I think expressing their opinion about the staff do help the staff learn from their mistakes, try to solve it and serve at their best, even if it means you have to go against staff...
I don't see a reason to play if you don't like what you playing. Keep walking guys, Argonath is not the only community and there is tons of them
everywhere. Find one and find the perfect community for you and your friends! Nothing keeps you stay at Argonath if you dislike it!
As a player you are obligated to listen to a moderator and higher.I understood how "we" work here before you registered on Argonath and never had a problem with it. Its you who broke that chain of commands in a disgusting, humiliating, and insulting manner.
Actually the rank doesn't make any difference there.
Hope it's clear for you as you seem to not really understand how we work here.
While I agree with your original topic in some degree; with this you are entirely wRONg in multiple ways.Let me be clear Teddy, I wasn't speaking about any of your inner HQ relations, reasons, situations or anything you pointed up above in your reply. Like Devin said, and I agreed, I got no input in it, nor is that any of my business. I was talking only on the things the entire Community saw on that humiliating trolling and insulting that was done on Dell's topic.
1. If RON was around Dellstorm would've never become a CL; thus we would've never gotten this far. The manipulative strategy he used is sickening.
2. Cyril had no input, or authority regarding the situation with Dellstorm. Managers did not have a vote.
3. The owners are aware of this; and actually AGREE with us and support which ever outcome it reaches.
4. If you knew the truth you would also.
Just to clear that up.
Also a CL does not overrule a DL; no matter how much they think they can. They work alongside the division's leadership. Confirmed by the almighty absent owner.
Wow, the amount of 'trolling' and useless posts made by those in high rank positions on here lately is crazy. I don't know the situations at all, so I can't speak on them myself, but I know for a fact that 4 years ago when I played, none of that BS would stand, whether it be a 5 post newb or a veteran admin. Imagine what a guy looking at the forums and the server for the first time would think when he sees moderators and admins of these servers posting like children? But then again, if he doesn't like what he sees, he will just be told to '/q' and leave the server.This community is part of a game!!! and the main point of this community is to serve us fun time... you call it trolling, they call it joking... You can't take a game that much serious and act like your life depends on it.
This community is part of a game!!! and the main point of this community is to serve us fun time... you call it trolling, they call it joking... You can't take a game that much serious and act like your life depends on it.When we call it joking they call it trolling. No exceptions.
What creativity are you talking about when refering to bank robbery?Bank robberies are not script supported at all so the only way to actually rob it is to get the cop's attention in order to get the demands. Cops never reach the demands and prefer to storm in with 30 cops and keep re-doing the process until all criminals have been killed. So you can't completely blame this one the criminals.
The only bank robberies that are denied by administration are the one where criminals gather 25 people, calling 911 or using /ad saying the bank is being robbed and all aiming at the door, waiting for cops to enter to blast them.
If you want to do that, I'm sure you can organize it in paruni server.
This community is part of a game!!! and the main point of this community is to serve us fun time... you call it trolling, they call it joking... You can't take a game that much serious and act like your life depends on it.I agree that this is just a game, I understand what you're saying. Of course mods should be allowed to joke and have fun like everyone can. But the 'trolling' I am referring to seems to be just provocative. And there is a difference between friendly jokes and obvious attempts to throw shade or mock people. Even a regular player should not be making such posts. The difference is is that admins/mods, leaders in the community, are supposed to reflect on the quality of the server. A group of great leaders gives good impressions, and leaders who's actions are questionable can leave a bad impression.
Just learn to enjoy the game.
Now I know this topic is about serious matter, same in serious meetings you always have to make a joke just to release the preasure, players tend to throw jokes just to release the stress of the debate...
You claim amount of trolling and usless post made by high rank positions on here is high... First of all thats wrong... ALOT of players joke around on such topics, why don't you say anything about them? well why do you think high ranks are any less or better than you or any other guys who jokes or any other person who make a statement? we are all equal, the rank is just responsibility you have to fullfill thats all the difference between you admins and managers etc... just because they are high ranks they have to be serious all the time and not enjoy the game at all?
Let me be clear Teddy, I wasn't speaking about any of your inner HQ relations, reasons, situations or anything you pointed up above in your reply. Like Devin said, and I agreed, I got no input in it, nor is that any of my business. I was talking only on the things the entire Community saw on that humiliating trolling and insulting that was done on Dell's topic.
And I'm talking about Cyril overruling decisions made by lots of higher rank people, who were all above manager rank at that point. Speaking of hierarchy..
This community is part of a game!!! and the main point of this community is to serve us fun time... you call it trolling, they call it joking... You can't take a game that much serious and act like your life depends on it.
Just learn to enjoy the game.
Now I know this topic is about serious matter, same in serious meetings you always have to make a joke just to release the preasure, players tend to throw jokes just to release the stress of the debate...
You claim amount of trolling and usless post made by high rank positions on here is high... First of all thats wrong... ALOT of players joke around on such topics, why don't you say anything about them? well why do you think high ranks are any less or better than you or any other guys who jokes or any other person who make a statement? we are all equal, the rank is just responsibility you have to fullfill thats all the difference between you admins and managers etc... just because they are high ranks they have to be serious all the time and not enjoy the game at all?
Partly related to OP, I believe it is not fair that a cop can get copbanned in place of a ban. Just like the police in America getting fired for murder instead of a conviction...If something is ban worthy he should (will ) not be copbanned, but he will be given a ban. Admin copbans are usually used on abuse of the firearm, suspecting abuse, etc, etc.
Just like the police in America getting fired for murder instead of a conviction...
I believe it is not fair that a cop can get copbanned in place of a ban.
SAPD should never intervene in place of an administrator. This is simply wrong.Seen it before many times. Cop goes around DMing with duty weapons, simply receives a copban.
Seen it before many times. Cop goes around DMing with duty weapons, simply receives a copban.
True story. Apparently a blue name gives you immunity from admin punishment. All you get is a cop ban..
True story. Apparently a blue name gives you immunity from admin punishment. All you get is a cop ban..
Nope? Copban is not an admin punishment. But DM is DM and shouldn't lead to a copban for cops and a-punishment for the rest.
Copban from a Admin is a punishment, just the same as a warning or a few minutes in admin jail. That unhappy about them receiving one then file a report on whoever issued it. Not every deathmatching case requires someone to be temporarily banned or fully banned.
Staff should punish those breaking the server rules by administrative means regardless of their in-game "job". Those breaking SAPD regulation are dealt with by copbans.Yeah, in theory.
Cops get paid for doing their job though, yet criminals don't.Criminals do get money when jailed.
Criminals do get money when jailed.
Criminals do get money when jailed.
Enough with your attitude towards those you dislike or don't agree with. Thanks.
Yeah, cause apperantly he's allowed to do that against me because he has more stars near his name. Hipocracy at its finest.If you actually read my post, I haven't insulted nor provoked you once, where as you tell me to, what you assume is dissatisfaction towards you, to shove it up my ass.
Yeah, cause apperantly he's allowed to do that against me because he has more stars near his name. Hipocracy at its finest.
What creativity are you talking about when refering to bank robbery?I cannot agree more.
The only bank robberies that are denied by administration are the one where criminals gather 25 people, calling 911 or using /ad saying the bank is being robbed and all aiming at the door, waiting for cops to enter to blast them.
If you want to do that, I'm sure you can organize it in paruni server.
This is still a problem, and with Argonath attempting to go through a reform (with SAPD being reformed and what-not), this should also be put into effect.http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=100219.0
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=100219.0Just because that rule has been added doesn't mean that criminals aren't allowed to do what criminals are supposed to do, just because some players scream DM everytime a group of players with weapons approaches them.
Section 17, final note.
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Just because that rule has been added doesn't mean that criminals aren't allowed to do what criminals are supposed to do, just because some players scream DM everytime a group of players with weapons approaches them.
what if argo transfer half the staff members from SAPD or FBI to a criminal organization ?Why just kidding? That's literally the solution and would mostly solve the issue like it did before all the criminal admins got kicked way back when.
Wouldn't that promote better understanding between Criminals and Admins ? just kidding :lol:
before all the criminal admins got kicked way back when.
Keep in mind they weren't kicked for being criminal but for not doing their jobs correctly after being reprimanded more than once.Their job performance had nothing to do with it, also there were no warnings of the sort your describe to many of them.
You really have no idea why people were fired. Those that were removed was due to their actions and failure to follow regulation.ok
Just because that rule has been added doesn't mean that criminals aren't allowed to do what criminals are supposed to do, just because some players scream DM everytime a group of players with weapons approaches them.
That rule has always been there, staff decisions are final if you wish to disagree further then you know where to submit a report on the forum or go talk to someone in HQ directly. If player's are screaming DM when people approach them then either they are right or they are just trying to get away from them by getting admins help. Either way if you did nothing wrong yet they crying wolf just report them for refusing to roleplay and we'll handle them from there.-You extort someone for dealing in a casino, you get reported and admin tells you to gtfo because "the casino isn't yours, you're just looking for a reason to DM".
The chance to /q shouldn't even be given, since he's probably just going to use it get away from the RP scenario. He should either roleplay or face a punishment from the admins.
2. If a person refuses to roleplay, he can either /q or get punish for it by admins. Unless he's on admin duty, or being AFK.
2. If a person refuses to roleplay, he can either /q or get punish for it by admins. Unless he's on admin duty, or being AFK.
He should either roleplay or face a punishment from the admins.
:app:Yo Bro!! Yes this what Antonio wrote should be implemented if we want some serious roleplay.
This may keep you from receiving punishments, but let's be honest, the reason Sopranos lost their status doesn't fall under the same category as this topic, yet it was for reasons that were taken on a personal level and even brought IRL into it.
Speaking from my experience once we lost the recgonized status i forbined my family interact with Cops, Rivals, and Workers (such as truckers or representatives of legal factions) and guess what? 0 Punishments from 2 weeks.
This may keep you from receiving punishments, but let's be honest, the reason Sopranos lost their status doesn't fall under the same category as this topic, yet it was for reasons that were taken on a personal level and even brought IRL into it.
Isolating yourself from things that your character should be doing (as long as it doesn't go against the server rules) shouldn't be the answer to this problem.
Sir, if you state that just after you stopped interacting with cops, truckers and rivals, that your punishments dropped significantly, it only means that those were the reasons that caused the punishments and it's automatically implying that it's a solution, when in reality isolation shouldn't be one.
I wrote /AFTER/ which was meaning "after the day we lost the status" i'm not saying that we lost the status due to this CASE.
You should be able to feel free to go and rob someone (trucker,weed grower w/e), or to interact with cops and not to feel 'scared' from admin punishmant, the cops or workers that refuse to RP have to face a punishmant not us. That is what needs to be changed.I think that was his point.
And while we are at it, would be nice if people didnt use the report command on regular basis after getting killed or in even other situations. What the hell, if I steal weed or kill a guy I can almost be sure that I'll see a text from a admin saying "hi lustig! :) :) why did you..." And I'll have to explain the whole f**cking situation before I can continue playing. All because people get so butthurt. Get over it ffs, you got owned.
Now when keybinds are allowed I'm gonna make some nice standard explanations that I can pm to the admins 1 sec after I've upset someone.
Time to start punishing for false reports once again.
It's pretty sad to have to go down that road after every confrontation with other players, people seem to think that losing a little bit of money when they get robbed or someone roleplays stealing something from them is the end of the world and they run to admins for no reason. The most annoying thing is people crying wolf when there is nothing wrong.
Time to start punishing for false reports once again.
BUT .. as others have indicated is not actually the admin's fault, in fact the admin staff would be quite happy to have little to do other then deal with the hackers.