I am personally willing to learn to code / fund the development of SA:MP (if it comes to that) for one simple reason: nostalgia. I want to be able to login into SA:MP every couple of months/years and still experience the game I grew up with.Are you sure the nostalgia is even possible considering the countless amount of topics made regarding why SAMP is dead and bad and not as it used to be because they updated the scripts to RScurrent# from RS-1?
I am personally willing to learn to code / fund the development of SA:MP (if it comes to that) for one simple reason: nostalgia. I want to be able to login into SA:MP every couple of months/years and still experience the game I grew up with.Are you sure the nostalgia is even possible considering the countless amount of topics made regarding why SAMP is dead and bad and not as it used to be because they updated the scripts to RScurrent# from RS-1?
Correct me if i'm wrong, but MTA:SA is still the same mod anyways, just running behind the scenes differently, no? What would stop you from experiencing that same SA in MTA than in MP? Andy had made it clear you'd still be able to go anywhere there.
The way I see it, its just a launcher.
Well there you go. This perfectly explains why moving to MTA is a good move and why this:I am personally willing to learn to code / fund the development of SA:MP (if it comes to that) for one simple reason: nostalgia. I want to be able to login into SA:MP every couple of months/years and still experience the game I grew up with.Are you sure the nostalgia is even possible considering the countless amount of topics made regarding why SAMP is dead and bad and not as it used to be because they updated the scripts to RScurrent# from RS-1?
Correct me if i'm wrong, but MTA:SA is still the same mod anyways, just running behind the scenes differently, no? What would stop you from experiencing that same SA in MTA than in MP? Andy had made it clear you'd still be able to go anywhere there.
The way I see it, its just a launcher.
MTA SA is a different mod and different community but as easy to install as any other program. MTA SA has more features and possibilities than SAMP will ever have, especially since MTA SA is still updated and open source. SAMP is no longer developed. The Argonath SAMP server has had many developers and leaders in the past couple years. I tried to do something with it and saw that there's no point. There's always waves of people who want to relive this experience. The SAMP server sucks. I didn't make this choice lightly or alone. The SAMP server will be shut down once the MTA SA server is released.
No.was posted.
Nothing to lose per se by keeping it running, but there's nothing to gain either though. A bit pointless, but that's just my opinion. I'd have nothing against it going either way.
Servers require hosting and resources to stay online. Sure, it's a small footprint and overall, it doesn't matter but that's one factor. The other factor is, if the server crashes or has an error, we still have to respond and handle it. As well, if we announce that the server is just legacy and will receive no updates and have no support, who's going to handle the rule breakers or hackers who ruin the fun of the few players who decide to play on the SAMP server?
Servers require hosting and resources to stay online. Sure, it's a small footprint and overall, it doesn't matter but that's one factor. The other factor is, if the server crashes or has an error, we still have to respond and handle it. As well, if we announce that the server is just legacy and will receive no updates and have no support, who's going to handle the rule breakers or hackers who ruin the fun of the few players who decide to play on the SAMP server?
That's why I stated clearly, I would take over on both hosting and for updates to learn to code or to get someone to help me to code (not you specifically). At this time, all it seems is that YOU made the decision for all of us and because you're personally tired of SA:MP, you get to shut it down. Nobody agreed to this and yet it's being imposed on us.
Why do you get to dictate the future? Leave it alone and go build your MTA:SA project. It hurts no one.
No.
No.
Servers require hosting and resources to stay online. Sure, it's a small footprint and overall, it doesn't matter but that's one factor. The other factor is, if the server crashes or has an error, we still have to respond and handle it. As well, if we announce that the server is just legacy and will receive no updates and have no support, who's going to handle the rule breakers or hackers who ruin the fun of the few players who decide to play on the SAMP server?
That's why I stated clearly, I would take over on both hosting and for updates to learn to code or to get someone to help me to code (not you specifically). At this time, all it seems is that YOU made the decision for all of us and because you're personally tired of SA:MP, you get to shut it down. Nobody agreed to this and yet it's being imposed on us.
Why do you get to dictate the future? Leave it alone and go build your MTA:SA project. It hurts no one.
Leave it alone and go build your MTA:SA project. It hurts no one.See now I think this mindset is problematic and its unfortunate you see that what could easily be considered as an upgrade over whats currently available, as someone's personal project that isn't for everyone's potential benefit.
I should share again, this question was also polled and a majority said not to run both servers. That being said, there's a good chunk that still wanted both but we have decided to only go with MTA SA.
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Just do what you have to do and don't waste your breath explaining yourself.People literally make a new SAMP topic every 2 weeks demanding answers to who knows what from Andy though 😂
Isn't it ironic that this thread has more responses than the MTA:SA announcement?
Isn't it ironic that it has more responses than the reactions on Discord to a new server announcement?
Isn't it ironic that this thread has more people viewing than the number of players active on GTA:C.
A serious of overzealous bad decisions based on egos have been made and we strayed further and further from any sort of hope of a recovery. Why are we wasting the energy going upstream?
I understand that I might be the only outspoke one (and most likely will be banned for it) but I have people supporting me from the sidelines which is ironic. Everyone is afraid to speak up because they fear being banned. That's the kind of culture that prevails in Argonath right now.
Isn't it ironic that this thread has more people viewing than the number of players active on GTA:C.It also ironically has more people viewing than people playing SAMP for the past half a year.
I understand that I might be the only outspoke one (and most likely will be banned for it) but I have people supporting me from the sidelines which is ironic. Everyone is afraid to speak up because they fear being banned. That's the kind of culture that prevails in Argonath right now.
funny sombody who goes and leaves a shit ton of times comes back and talks about samp's abandone(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/333343478559932418/1004097365231284315/nathan_meme.png)
I understand that I might be the only outspoke one (and most likely will be banned for it) but I have people supporting me from the sidelines which is ironic. Everyone is afraid to speak up because they fear being banned. That's the kind of culture that prevails in Argonath right now.Again you try to throw shit at us?
Isn't it ironic that this thread has more responses than the MTA:SA announcement?Isn't it ironic that most people commenting on this topic have VC:MP staff ranks whom most have zero intentions to play SA:MP? :hah:
Isn't it ironic that it has more responses than the reactions on Discord to a new server announcement?
Isn't it ironic that this thread has more people viewing than the number of players active on GTA:C.
A serious of overzealous bad decisions based on egos have been made and we strayed further and further from any sort of hope of a recovery. Why are we wasting the energy going upstream?
I understand that I might be the only outspoke one (and most likely will be banned for it) but I have people supporting me from the sidelines which is ironic. Everyone is afraid to speak up because they fear being banned. That's the kind of culture that prevails in Argonath right now.
Wow
Mad props for not just saying "stfu" and locking the topic at this point lmfao
Isn't it ironic that this thread has more people viewing than the number of players active on GTA:C.
Everyone is afraid to speak up because they fear being banned. That's the kind of culture that prevails in Argonath right now.
Everyone is afraid to speak up because they fear being banned.
Isn't it ironic that this thread has more responses than the MTA:SA announcement?
Isn't it ironic that this thread has more responses than the MTA:SA announcement?What are you, a 12 years old kid comparing the length of e-penises of your alter egoes? Do you realise that you aren't making any sense and talking out of your ass? You're putting way too much emotion over nothing. How's the number of replies or views relevant when they are just announcement topics and are not for discussing? Unlike this topic when everyone clicked and will keep on clicking everyday increasing the number of views just to laugh or be disappointed since you're the one posting it and shaming yourself.
Isn't it ironic that it has more responses than the reactions on Discord to a new server announcement?
Isn't it ironic that this thread has more people viewing than the number of players active on GTA:C.
I'd understand something like, "this is me and my friends, we are role-playing in this role-play server, we're active and using it the intended way, and that's why we're asking to keep it running," but asking to keep a RP server up because "I want to grow weed and drive truck" is just some next-level 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 shit right there.
Isn't it ironic that most people commenting on this topic have VC:MP staff ranks whom most have zero intentions to play SA:MP? :hah:
Why would you want two servers of the same kind online, Nathan?
When's the last time you been relevant? 🤡 Go back to your inactivity hole, shitposter.When have you ever been relevant? 🤡
You tell me. Look at the sad announcement thread. You managed to push everyone out. Only people that are left here are inactive trolls like Mario and "staff" who are only here because they hold a rank. And Huntsman. That's literally it. You can count the people on two hands.I am not an inactive troll, you donkey, I am actually waiting for the new server's release. :hah:
But for real though, who exactly are we building a new server for?Who's "we" Nathan, you haven't built anything so far.
Everyone has either been community banned or left. 9 people reacted to the announcement on Discord out of 450+ members. That's ridiculous. That should give you a signal about the activity of the server and the broader community.That is actually a great advantage — there is an opportunity to build a new, fresh, non-toxic playerbase.
I don't understand what the push is for going out of our way to shutdown an okay working server for a replacement that's not guaranteed. It rests literally on one person (Badandy) to get completed at the moment and if he wins the lottery/gets hit by the bus/gets bored/has a personal issue/etc, we'll be dead in the water.
I'm also offering a solution to your questions (I help find the developer to continue SA:MP support, etc.) yet instead, the push back is "no, we'll just shut it down because MTA:SA is coming".Like they can't find a dev themselves.
We have one server right now, the MTA:SA is a hypothetical that's in the works. We were provided no dates / timelines / or actual progress updates. It's just "coming soon".Good. Nobody owes anybody anything.
continue SA:MP supportLiterally, how? How? When the author of SA:MP itself abandoned SA:MP. There are hacks for SA:MP that are a hundred times worse than s0beit ever was. The whole platform is one huge security vulnerability. No new features, no security patches, bad modding support.
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When's the last time you been relevant? 🤡 Go back to your inactivity hole, shitposter.
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Based on the petition results and responses here, we are continuing with our plan. The SAMP server will be shut down when the MTA SA server releases. Enjoy SAMP as it exists until then.
"staff" who are only here because they hold a rank.🤓
Based on the petition results and responses here, we are continuing with our plan. The SAMP server will be shut down when the MTA SA server releases. Enjoy SAMP as it exists until then.Actually thank you NathanA for proving with this petition that SA:MP gonna lose. 😹
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You really should take a step back from Argonath as a whole. Your view on things is so fucked up and consumed by your own hatred towards the people here that you can't see anything that's right infront of you, except the bullshit you're knee deep in.
Please, do us both a favor and actually take a few months off. Work on yourself and your life, do what makes you happy instead of clinging on to have-beens.
Will all the shit we have in SAMP be transfered to MTA SA? Or are you guys making everything from scratch? Thinking a bunch of dudes who are now around 23-28 will go on a game on their bare minimum free time to Grind something they have done for countless hours in the past? To make money? And be able to RP the character most people in SAMP enjoy? A tough and rich motherfucker? If you dont plan on transfering the money we already have, I srsly dont get why you even bother ... No I dont agree with keeping SAMP open ,if for some reason we are transfering to MTA SA ... But if this is not a proper transfer and its simply a restart with a completelly new script, then for the love of god let it die in piece, dont waste your time!!From the official announcement topic:
Players will start off on the server with starting items and money, along with a vehicle and an apartment.
Theres always something you can do with enough creativity.
This is getting ridiculous. MTA:SA will be replacing SA:MP and that's been verified by the wishes of the community.
Why this is even an ongoing discussion, I don't know.<random rant>
You really should take a step back from Argonath as a whole. Your view on things is so fucked up and consumed by your own hatred towards the people here that you can't see anything that's right infront of you, except the bullshit you're knee deep in.
Please, do us both a favor and actually take a few months off. Work on yourself and your life, do what makes you happy instead of clinging on to have-beens.
I second Kessu. Nathan, all the best to you, I suggest that you try taking some time off, it may help. I'm sure you'd be welcome again once you've got a clear head and if you later wish to return.
Enough, come on.
This is getting ridiculous. MTA:SA will be replacing SA:MP and that's been verified by the wishes of the community.
Why this is even an ongoing discussion, I don't know.<random rant>
You really should take a step back from Argonath as a whole. Your view on things is so fucked up and consumed by your own hatred towards the people here that you can't see anything that's right infront of you, except the bullshit you're knee deep in.
Please, do us both a favor and actually take a few months off. Work on yourself and your life, do what makes you happy instead of clinging on to have-beens.
I second Kessu. Nathan, all the best to you, I suggest that you try taking some time off, it may help. I'm sure you'd be welcome again once you've got a clear head and if you later wish to return.
Enough, come on.(https://images.pexels.com/photos/1463295/pexels-photo-1463295.jpeg?cs=srgb&dl=pexels-frans-van-heerden-1463295.jpg&fm=jpg)
This is getting ridiculous. MTA:SA will be replacing SA:MP and that's been verified by the wishes of the community.
Why this is even an ongoing discussion, I don't know.<random rant>
You really should take a step back from Argonath as a whole. Your view on things is so fucked up and consumed by your own hatred towards the people here that you can't see anything that's right infront of you, except the bullshit you're knee deep in.
Please, do us both a favor and actually take a few months off. Work on yourself and your life, do what makes you happy instead of clinging on to have-beens.
I second Kessu. Nathan, all the best to you, I suggest that you try taking some time off, it may help. I'm sure you'd be welcome again once you've got a clear head and if you later wish to return.
Enough, come on.(https://images.pexels.com/photos/1463295/pexels-photo-1463295.jpeg?cs=srgb&dl=pexels-frans-van-heerden-1463295.jpg&fm=jpg)
what the bird have to do with this topic lol.
Hello community!
I brought this up in private with no real answer given so I wanted to bring this up in public.
I am not willing to let Argonath SA:MP server die. Especially an abandoned, left out in the cold death like this. I understand we have no developers and understand that Badandy does not want to work on it anymore due to personal reasons. I 100% understand why he doesn't want to work on this anymore.
Instead, what I propose is to keep SA:MP running in parallel to the development of MTA:SA.
I am personally willing to learn to code / fund the development of SA:MP (if it comes to that) for one simple reason: nostalgia. I want to be able to login into SA:MP every couple of months/years and still experience the game I grew up with. I want to go in game and grow weed. I want to go in game and drive a Roadtrain and grind through truck stops. I want to go in game and drive through a deserted LV at night. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
What this means specifically:
- Badandy continues work on MTA:SA and launches it as planned
- SA:MP will continue to run so that people can still enjoy the old server
- SA:MP will be in maintenance mode with no more features/upgrades until we find a developer willing to help
If you agree to this, please show your support. If you don't, let me know why.
I should share again, this question was also polled and a majority said not to run both servers. That being said, there's a good chunk that still wanted both but we have decided to only go with MTA SA.Welcome to new topic about samp we see new topic about samp every month
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Welcome to new topic about samp we see new topic about samp every month
about this drama going on let me get in this too.
so about this topic just so you know i was one of those people who voting to run both servers. i wanted the same thing i wanted that both servers can run so if people wanted to play samp or mta up to the player but after reading all the posts on this topic really what's the point of running the old server. like we gonna get 100 players from no where yea i can understand about legacy and memories things but really even if we run both server. the management will have there minds on mta not samp so they not gonna come fix little things like badandy said also even if leadership let you manage the server who will fix the server issues even you call some developer to help of course he will not fix things for only one player which is you and how will we be sure you not gonna leave in a week and making new topic saying i was wrong we should shut down the server you left so many times that no one take you serious now. about you growing up playing the old server and making memories you can do same thing on mta its just a different client not a whole new game. so far only you and me reach out to let both server running even i back out so you the only one so far who care about samp server so i will suggest you not wasting your time here and maybe give idea what you like to have in new server and i wont be surprise to see you making a new topic about samp in some weeks.
I was gonna read what you said but the lack of capitalisation and proper punctuation made my head hurt :(.(https://i.imgur.com/cIRElJJ.png) 🦜
I was gonna read what you said but the lack of capitalisation and proper punctuation made my head hurt :(.(https://i.imgur.com/cIRElJJ.png) 🦜
I think we've established that there is no intention to keep SA:MP running.
So: How's the weather over there ladies and gentlemen? Over here it's 21 degrees celsius at 11 pm!
to make it easier for your head I said there no Point in running the serverWelcome to new topic about samp we see new topic about samp every month
about this drama going on let me get in this too.
so about this topic just so you know i was one of those people who voting to run both servers. i wanted the same thing i wanted that both servers can run so if people wanted to play samp or mta up to the player but after reading all the posts on this topic really what's the point of running the old server. like we gonna get 100 players from no where yea i can understand about legacy and memories things but really even if we run both server. the management will have there minds on mta not samp so they not gonna come fix little things like badandy said also even if leadership let you manage the server who will fix the server issues even you call some developer to help of course he will not fix things for only one player which is you and how will we be sure you not gonna leave in a week and making new topic saying i was wrong we should shut down the server you left so many times that no one take you serious now. about you growing up playing the old server and making memories you can do same thing on mta its just a different client not a whole new game. so far only you and me reach out to let both server running even i back out so you the only one so far who care about samp server so i will suggest you not wasting your time here and maybe give idea what you like to have in new server and i wont be surprise to see you making a new topic about samp in some weeks.
I was gonna read what you said but the lack of capitalisation and proper punctuation made my head hurt :(.
I think we've established that there is no intention to keep SA:MP running.
So: How's the weather over there ladies and gentlemen? Over here it's 21 degrees celsius at 11 pm!
I should say, I feel quite inspired by everyone responding positively even if some may not play on the MTA SA server. And I have also received some kind private messages as well since announcing the server. Support isn't always public and in your face. Thank you everyone for your response. I feel good about the direction we are heading based on this topic, the announcement, discord and the private conversations I had with people.You should feel quite inspired regardless of the positive responses, Badandy. This community has lacked developers that are willing to step up and offer a functional and healthy environment for those who still care. Whether that's MTA:SA, III:MP, or V:MP. It doesn't matter really.
The only time the community gets any activity is when there is an active conversation like this one. I am glad that I can provide spikes for that activity and have people unite against me. I am glad.
But I am also pessimistic on MTA specifically and believe that just like V:MP, this "dream" of what MTA:SA will be, won't actually occur. There will be some sort of excuse, some sort of delay, and then the project will be dropped all together.
One can only hope for a bright future, yet right now, things look dim from the outside.
Hey so I didn't read any of this, but I'm pretty sure RS5 is leaked, so... why are you asking for permission?Bro my uncle works for Argonath RPG and he actually showed me an early version of RS6 and lemme tell you something pal, that shit is BUSSIN!
Lets face it.. The server is dead.... Also the Fort Carson thing was a real big mistake... The coming of RS5 destroyed the playerbase was the beginning of the end...
What's left of Argonath on SA:MP is the reminiscence... Sad to see what Argonath became...
And who are you? HAHA.. Don't worry I prefer being "left" too. Argonath failed its own community and that's why its dead. The choice of administration and staff members always baffled me too, not being to take any criticism is a result of what Argonath is today... Your life must be fulfilled with the attitude you have, have funLets face it.. The server is dead.... Also the Fort Carson thing was a real big mistake... The coming of RS5 destroyed the playerbase was the beginning of the end...
What's left of Argonath on SA:MP is the reminiscence... Sad to see what Argonath became...
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Again, speaks volumes. Last post in 2020 prior to the shitposts here.
Mate, You know what is more sad? A grown man (which I would assume you are by now given I remember you playing RS4) coming to a community that is facing hardships, but is at least trying to do something about it and belittling the very few people that still care.
If you have nothing nice to say just fuck off then. If you left, stay left. How miserable does your shitty life has to be for you to be going around and putting other people down?
I've seen behaviour like this before - in people who get pushed around in their lives so they feel some relief by taking it out on others.
nobody gives a shit what you have to say. The reason I remember you is because I have good memory - anybody else is probably thinking who the fuck you are.
I prefer you stay "left" to be fair - you were a fucking asswipe from what I remember, and your yapping here is refreshing the memory.
And who are you? HAHA.. Don't worry I prefer being "left" too. Argonath failed its own community and that's why its dead. The choice of administration and staff members always baffled me too, not being to take any criticism is a result of what Argonath is today... Your life must be fulfilled with the attitude you have, have fun
I mean, if no one's logging in..just kill it.I don't see the point though. Gandalf said that it bears no significant server costs and it would still stay up. So now we must kill it? Go to therapy maybe.
It's fun being ignorantHey so I didn't read any of this, but I'm pretty sure RS5 is leaked, so... why are you asking for permission?Bro my uncle works for Argonath RPG and he actually showed me an early version of RS6 and lemme tell you something pal, that shit is BUSSIN!
While some decisions may not have been the best for the SAMP community, after a point, players gave up on the server cuz they didn't want to play alone.I agree, but I would like to correct the last sentence:
I'm convinced that the community is moving in the right direction now. The big difference between MTA SA and SAMP for me is the possibility of a steady set of new players, thanks to the client. With new players, we would need experienced players and admins to manage the server. The map is the same and with some possibilities that MTASA has which BadAndy has showcased, we would have a better server than what we have now. Shutting it down seems to be the best decision considering the above.
I mean, if no one's logging in..just kill it.I don't see the point though. Gandalf said that it bears no significant server costs and it would still stay up. So now we must kill it? Go to therapy maybe.
I mean, if no one's logging in..just kill it.I don't see the point though. Gandalf said that it bears no significant server costs and it would still stay up. So now we must kill it? Go to therapy maybe.
It really feels like some of you people just hate the thought of progress, which is a shame.
No timelines, no dates, just some arbitrary “coming soon”.
It’s not progress when the story for the last decade has been to over promise and way under deliver.
So what’s the request on my end? Don’t shutdown a working server for a halfbaked replacement. It doesn’t hurt anyone.
Shit even Discord is dead.
Ah, so you seem to have read my post in this topic and chose the "stay mad lol" option. 💁♀️It really feels like some of you people just hate the thought of progress, which is a shame.
It’s not progress when the story for the last decade has been to over promise and way under deliver. People like myself are tired that a select few make decisions for all of us when in reality they themselves are not active in the servers. Even worse, I personally believe that it’s a mistake to shutdown something that works for something that “could potentially be better”.
All we were presented with is a long plan with a ton of ideas and some screenshots. At least with III:MP, we get consistent updates on where things are going.
We’ve been having this Discussion since May. What has changed three months later? A 10 thousand word essay about a brighter future? No timelines, no dates, just some arbitrary “coming soon”. One by one, people login less and less. Shit even Discord is dead.
So what’s the request on my end? Don’t shutdown a working server for a halfbaked replacement. It doesn’t hurt anyone.
Shutting it down seems to be the best unnecessary decision considering the above.
It really feels like some of you people just hate the thought of progress, which is a shame.
It’s not progress when the story for the last decade has been to over promise and way under deliver. People like myself are tired that a select few make decisions for all of us when in reality they themselves are not active in the servers. Even worse, I personally believe that it’s a mistake to shutdown something that works for something that “could potentially be better”.
All we were presented with is a long plan with a ton of ideas and some screenshots. At least with III:MP, we get consistent updates on where things are going.
We’ve been having this Discussion since May. What has changed three months later? A 10 thousand word essay about a brighter future? No timelines, no dates, just some arbitrary “coming soon”. One by one, people login less and less. Shit even Discord is dead.
So what’s the request on my end? Don’t shutdown a working server for a halfbaked replacement. It doesn’t hurt anyone.
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The "cost" of maintaining SAMP was already explained ages ago. It's not about server fees, but rather about human resources that are required to keep the server running. It'd need to be troubleshooted if it's down, it'd still need to have admins and management to look after itYou forgot about the security issues. It may not be easy to come across this here, with an empty(ish) server, but in popular SA-MP servers, there are "hackers" who can crash your game, steal your personal data, or even infect your PC. No server host will be able to protect you, if those script kiddies got half a brain and aren't openly advertising what they're doing.
My post before literally suggested Nathan creates his own RS5 if that's what he wants.
I think it will bring peace to many nostalgia junkies to turn the page, I also hold argonath sa:mp dear, but I can't see the reason anymore to desperately prolong it. Running both servers could also harm the MTA Vision for example strip it off the opportunity to show its true colors!
Life works by opposing forces and that's the beauty of it, there's no peak without bottom and no fun times without worse times. I say turn the page. Look how many people go through the trouble to bang their heads against their wall and write forum essays for years now, instead of enjoying a simple F game.. This is not fun anymore this is psychological torture. Did y'all forget the force that made you get hooked with Argonath?
I say, if SA:MP was worth keeping then you wouldn't have to make a petition for it, let it show - and it has already showed -
We have had MTA:SA and SA:MP running parallel before, one didn't kill the other, why would it happen this time? How in the fuck would SA:MP kill MTA:SA :lol:
They will not be running parallel, I do not think there's anyone here who would like to join SA:MP, it's dead, we get it. But why do you feel compelled to do the extra steps and shut it down?
Read my responses along with others on why. It takes human resources. It also is one of the many faces of this community. I don't see the point in keeping up a server that's not updated or played except for a few people. I don't care about what was done in the past. Yes there used to be two GTA SA based servers on two mods but that isn't revelant to what we are doing today.
Again, this server has had many developers and leaders in the past couple years, all trying to save it. I want to effectively close the door on SAMP and finally say goodbye and look forward to MTA SA. I know it won't make everyone happy but it looks like a majority don't mind.
So what’s the request on my end? Don’t shutdown a working server for a halfbaked replacement. It doesn’t hurt anyone.
Shutting down parts of the community will only lower the player and staff counts further and will add nothing positive to the community whatsoever.?
Anyways, whatever happened toShutting down parts of the community will only lower the player and staff counts further and will add nothing positive to the community whatsoever.?
Realistically speaking - how much actually work has been done? Is this going to be the same story as V:MP?
So you're different from the other developers how? I don't think you should make the decision to close any server down, provided you're not paying for this out of pocket. What is gonna break the server anyway? Nobody logging in? That will bring some trouble, yeah.We have had MTA:SA and SA:MP running parallel before, one didn't kill the other, why would it happen this time? How in the fuck would SA:MP kill MTA:SA :lol:
They will not be running parallel, I do not think there's anyone here who would like to join SA:MP, it's dead, we get it. But why do you feel compelled to do the extra steps and shut it down?
Again, this server has had many developers and leaders in the past couple years, all trying to save it. I want to effectively close the door on SAMP and finally say goodbye and look forward to MTA SA. I know it won't make everyone happy but it looks like a majority don't mind.
So you're different from the other developers how? I don't think you should make the decision to close any server down, provided you're not paying for this out of pocket. What is gonna break the server anyway? Nobody logging in? That will bring some trouble, yeah.We have had MTA:SA and SA:MP running parallel before, one didn't kill the other, why would it happen this time? How in the fuck would SA:MP kill MTA:SA :lol:
They will not be running parallel, I do not think there's anyone here who would like to join SA:MP, it's dead, we get it. But why do you feel compelled to do the extra steps and shut it down?
Again, this server has had many developers and leaders in the past couple years, all trying to save it. I want to effectively close the door on SAMP and finally say goodbye and look forward to MTA SA. I know it won't make everyone happy but it looks like a majority don't mind.
And again, I am not against MTA:SA, I'm glad you came to your senses.