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Gangwar Policies
This topic is for the experimental rules drawn up by Panda and agreed upon in NitrOx's Petition (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=34986.0).
Concept
Groups that wish to engage in fights must both agree to the conflicts that may come.
To this end, a double sided "validation" must be agreed upon.
E.G.
Group A wishes to fight Group B.
Group A must hold a validation for Group B.
Group B must also hold a validation for Group A.
Only then may they validly engage in a gangwar ingame.
Rules/Policies and Complaints
:: Once killed in a conflict, a player must not return for any reason. Only through direct agreement with the enemy gang's leader may they return (if they got carkilled by a DMer, for example).
:: If a player returns to the fight, complaints must go to their groups leader or superior ranking officer. Complaints must not go into /report.
:: If a gang's leader constantly ignores reports of his players returning (e.g. he lets them continue fighting despite protests from the other side that he already died) then quite simply, he will lose his validation from the enemy side. He will then no longer be allowed to have a gangwar with them.
This simple system means that if you show poor control of members, and poor etiquette, you will lose validations and will not be allowed to fight.
Remember:
Gangs without official double validation in this thread may not fight, even if both sides technically agree ingame.
If you attack another group, and their ally is there with them, they may aid in defense even if you are not validated. This only applies to defensive situations, when attacking you must only target a validated opponent and only bring fully validated allies with you.
Gangwar Validations
This is a list of validations. This is supposed to be a reasonably clear list, although admins enquiring should also check new replies.
To make a list of gangs you wish to validate, simply post as the leader of a group with your list (an example is below on the first post). Each time you wish to add a new gang, simply repost the form with the third question answeblack as appropriate.
Validation Request Form:
[b]Group Name:[/b]
[b]Group Leader(s):[/b]
[b]New Gang or Adding Validations?:[/b]
[b]Validations Listed:[/b]
Validation Severage Form:
[b]Group Name:[/b]
[b]Group Leader(s):[/b]
[b]Validations Severed (immediately):[/b]
[b]Reason for ending validation(s):[/b]
Current Active Validations
This list is mostly correct, but it is always worth checking the latest posts for any addtions or severages if checking the validity of a gangwar. Every now and again there will be a post saying "Current & Up To Date". Any posts after this message should be checked, along with this list.
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Group Name:The Stracci Family
Group Leader(s): NitrOx Stracci
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang Listed
Validations Listed: Gvardia, Cems, Montana, Corleone
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Group Name: The Araatus Yakuza
Group Leader(s): Panda_Araatus, Squeak_Araatus (active ones, anyway).
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang listed.
Validations Listed: Gvardia, Cems, Montana.
For the example, I may not attack any of the above three gangs until they also put "Araatus" as a validation in their form.
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Great mate!
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Group Name: Gvardia Family
Group Leader(s): Cofiliano, Eugene, Hell, Joe
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gangs listed.
Validations Listed: Stracci, Araatus, Corleone
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Do you guys want "Gvardia Family" or "Gvardia Mob"? :)
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mmm...
I think Mob is fine
for now
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Group Name: Luvineri Family.
Group Leader(s): Johnny_Luvineri, Julian_Luvineri.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gangs listed.
Validations Listed: Gvardia, Cems. (For now.)
By the way, I have a question.
For example, if Luvineri and Gvardia are on eachothers validations, do you gotta agree everything before the war, or can it just be an unexpected attack? (With a reason, ofc.)
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By the way, I have a question.
For example, if Luvineri and Gvardia are on eachothers validations, do you gotta agree everything before the war, or can it just be an unexpected attack? (With a reason, ofc.)
can be un-expected atack..
but with RP in it :)
Post Merge: June 25, 2009, 10:10:02 pm
eddited.
Group Name: Gvardia Mob
Group Leader(s): Eug, Cofi, Hell, Joe
New Gang or Adding Validations?: ..
Validations Listed: Araatus, CM, Luvs, Stracci
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can be un-expected atack..
but with RP in it :)
Correct.
Although bear in mind that attacks on like 2 members, or griefing in general - will probably cause the enemy gang to drop your validation.
Its all self-policed, people.
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Do you need to have a reason, like a conflict just happend but we survived, let's get back at them, or is being enemies a valid reason too?
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At this time, I think its reasonable to try a few different things.
If people have issues with some peoples' actions, then we can discuss them at a friendly all-gang meeting.
Best way to find good reasons for attacking is to trial different options, after all.
If anybody has any thoughts they are welcome.
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I woud like to point, that a "signal " to rival group shoud happend, like crusing around there HQ, or organizing unfriendly meeting.
Storming in rival HQ, with 2 or 3 boys , one afk, one without weapon, and one alone in combat, is more then retarded in my point of view.
Also i woud like to note, that we WONT atack rivals when there is only 1-2-3 members of them online, with 30 mans. No not cause we are only moral and stuff, but because that woud create revenges, and too much gang wars in one day then required.
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Storming in rival HQ, with 2 or 3 boys , one afk, one without weapon, and one alone in combat, is more then retarded in my point of view.
Correct.
Whilst technically within the rules, the leader of any gang that does this should be immediately contacted. If they refuse to cooperate, simply cut your validation and you're good to go. Further attacks are admin punishable as gangwar without validation.
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Group Name: Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Scorpz Cems | Dwight Cems
New Gang or Adding Validations?: ...
Validations Listed: Stracci Family | Araatus Yakuza | Luvineri Family
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Group Name: Sons of Silence
Group Leader(s): Andrew_Silence, [AV]Ramke, Leo_Silence
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed: Cems, Corleone, Matr, Stracci, Gvardia, Luvineri, Chan , Dragon , Ruiz
I want validation against almost all
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Group Name: Luvineri Family.
Group Leader(s): Julian_Luvineri, Johnny_Luvineri.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validations.
Validations Listed: Sons of Silence.
Since Varjaca added us, we add him too, or else there's no use for him to add us.
By the way Panda, well done on the topic. ;)
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Group Name: The Montana Crime Family
Group Leader(s):Kent_Montana,Mario_Montana,Romeo_Montana
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang
Validations Listed:Montoya,Sons of Silence,Stracci.
(more will be added soon once i talk to Romeo and Kent
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Group Name:The Stracci Familly
Group Leader(s):NitrOx_Stracci
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding Validation
Validations Listing:Sons of Silence
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Group Name: Montana Family
Group Leader(s):Kent_Montana Mario_Montana and Romeo_Montana
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding Validations
Validations Listed:Arratus Yakuza
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i withdraw my validations, i didnt understand topic and i took all validations, sorry i withdraw it...
Post Merge: June 27, 2009, 02:48:17 pm
Group Name: Sons of Silence
Group Leader(s): Andrew_Silence, [AV]Ramke, Leo_Silence
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Addint Validations
Validations Listed: Matr, Burkev, Corleone, Chan ,
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Current & Up To Date
Remember to make a new post to add and to not modify existing validation forms.
This text above means that all posts before it are added to the main post.
Admins who wish to check a gangwar ingame should check back to the last "Current & Up To Date" message to be absolutely sure.
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Group Name: Varrio Pico Nuevo.
Group Leader(s): Fernando Herrera.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validations
Validations Listed: The Marvilla Gang and the Sons of Silence.
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Group Name: gvardia
Group Leader(s): cofi, eug
Validations Seveblack (immediately): Stracci
Reason for ending validation(s): not following combat rules
(by cofi)
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I was wondering.. I know that you shouldn't cause a gang war with 20 people vs 3 people for example, but what if you are 5 guys trying to rob 1 guy from another group that the guys' group have validations with? Is that allowed or not? It's not a gang war, but it could cause a gang war.
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Group Name: gvardia
Group Leader(s): cofi, eug
Validations Seveblack (immediately): Stracci
Reason for ending validation(s): not following combat rules
(by cofi)
Done.
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I was wondering.. I know that you shouldn't cause a gang war with 20 people vs 3 people for example, but what if you are 5 guys trying to rob 1 guy from another group that the guys' group have validations with? Is that allowed or not? It's not a gang war, but it could cause a gang war.
I don't see why this should not be allowed. ;)
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It is up to each mafia to set out the rules of engagement.
If you set out rules, and the other mafia refuses to follow them, simply drop validation to end all fighting immediately.
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I was wondering since me and 3 of my guys tried to rob a Gvardia, then Cofi said it wasn't allowed.
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I was wondering since me and 3 of my guys tried to rob a Gvardia, then Cofi said it wasn't allowed.
alowed if robbing them, not just running up and "TIME TO DIE B***H!" and start blasting
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alowed if robbing them, not just running up and "TIME TO DIE B***H!" and start blasting
Well the thing was, that you were robing him infront of our HQ, with 3 of us next to it, so it was like a situation that coud cause a gangwar. Anyway i am fine , if you boys are fine with it .
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Group Name:The Stracci Family
Group Leader(s): J_Maravilla & Ceaser_Maravilla
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang Listed
Validations Listed: Gvardia, Varrio Pico Nuevo, Stracci, Luvineri
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Why the flying fuck are you posting your own group as the Stracci Familly?
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Why the flying f**k are you posting your own group as the Stracci Familly?
ROFLCOPTER
:lol: :rofl:
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Group Name: The Montana Crime Family
Group Leader(s):Kent_Montana Mario_Montana Romeo_Montana
Validations Severed (immediately):Araatus Yakuza
Reason for ending validation(s):Apparently Indica was talking to maxy and squeak a few days ago and they agreed to ally/truce with us..
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Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): C,E,H,J
New Gang or Adding Validations?:adding
Validations Listed:Silent guys, meriville (spell?)
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Eugene: It's Sons of Silence and The Marvilla Gang.
A.k.A: ''Sons of *Flame* and The *Flame* *Flame* :PP
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Group Name: Luvineri Family.
Group Leader(s): Johnny_Luvineri, Julian_Luvineri
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validations.
Validations Listed: Maravilla Gang.
Since they listed us..
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Group Name: Maravilla Gang
Group Leader(s): J_Willcox & Ryan_Goodrich
Validations Severed (immediately):All of them.
Reason for ending validation(s):Closed the gang.
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i wanna know why the F**k Stracci keep attacking us when we removed Validations with them they 3-4 of them attacked me and Susie_GvardiaT and same as yesturday when we were just driving i pulled over to type something on the CB and Nitrox and Ollie shot at us off the flat bed of yosmote (spelling) they shot are tires when we did not even say anthing to them
that is just BullSh*t
some 1 control then and Nitrox you should know this and how you had snipers on the roof opposite of are HQ aiming at us btw they have bad aim cause they kept shooting beside me and 1 bullet got me out of like 4
i want actions taken against this
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Any attacks without validation should be treated as simple deathmatch.
Report to leaders but also report to admins at the time with /report. Thats what the system is here for.
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I cannot help it that [AV]Bart runs to you for protection, my target, If you want to have it like this, blaming others, I could also blame YOU:
Yesterday before at Corey's dice by Roman Gvardia no any reason attack, reported? No..
Yesterday around 01:00 by Susie Gvardia, reported ? No.
Yesterday Night at Ganton where you shot at me, reported? No.
I should be reporting YOU, but I won't, because I know that YOU know that you just want to keep your kill-count up while getting us punished, which is very reason why you even dropped validation - for getting losses 6-times in a row.
Thanks.
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we dropped it cause you were not following the rules of it i did not shoot you at ganton i have never fired 1 shot at you or any Stracci since we dropped validations with Stracci and Susie asked me to do something cause Stracci attack her all the time when no 1 else is online
ty squeak now i know and i will inform the 1's that don't
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Group Name: Sons of Silence
Group Leader(s): Andrew_Silence, [AV]Ramke, Leo_Silence
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Varrio Pico Nuevo
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Group Name: Luvineri Family.
Group Leader(s): Johnny_Luvineri, Julian_Luvineri.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validations.
Validations Listed: Burkev Empire.
And remove Maravilla, since they closed.
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Group Name:The Thang Family
Group Leader(s):John_Oran
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding Validations
Validations Listed:Gvardia, Cems, Montana.
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Group Name: Varrio Pico Nuevo.
Group Leader(s): Fernando Herrera.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validations.
Validations Listed: The Gvardia Mob and the Cems Gang.
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b]Group Name:[/b] The Montana Family
Group Leader(s):Kent_Montana Mario_Montana and Romeo_Montana
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding validations
Validations Listed:The Thang Family. (seeing as they added us )
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Group Name: Gvarida
Group Leader(s): cofi eugene hell joe
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed:The Thang Family, Varrio Pico Nuevo
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Group Name: Diablos
Group Leader(s): Usaring, Tsubo
New Gang or Adding Validations?: ...
Validations Listed: Sons of Silence
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Group Name: Varrio Pico Nuevo.
Group Leader(s): Fernando Herrera
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding.
Validations Listed: Vatos Locos Gang.
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Group Name: Sons of Silence
Group Leader(s): Andrew, Ramke , Leo
Validations Severed (immediately): Burkev, Diablos
Reason for ending validation(s): Burkev=we are ally's now , Diablos=Not following rules, moaning after loss, revenge killing after loss etc. etc.
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Once again Stracci atacks Gvardia HQ....
Panda, who should i report this DM to?
pm to aragorn? gandalf?
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Report to online admins, deal with it just as any other DM. ;)
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Report to online admins, deal with it just as any other DM. ;)
ok good, thats what i did.
but then i heard other stracci's in main chat "Eug, im reporting u to main admins for abusing".... :trust:
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Sorry Eug and Panda that was me im truly sorry i just wanted an rp ambush but all messed up cause of crash and ended up chilling etc.... i forgot about this My apologies Eug you can punish me but not the others cause i had this idea to rp the ambush.. Anyway my Apologies again i was annoying yeah and you had rights to do what you did Sorry. But as i said i take full responsibilities for what happened since it was my idea so if you want to punish, punish me only
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Sorry Eug and Panda that was me im truly sorry i just wanted an rp ambush but all messed up cause of crash and ended up chilling etc.... i forgot about this My apologies Eug you can punish me but not the others cause i had this idea to rp the ambush.. Anyway my Apologies again i was annoying yeah and you had rights to do what you did Sorry. But as i said i take full responsibilities for what happened since it was my idea so if you want to punish, punish me only
we now understand each other, so no more problem ;)
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Group Name: The Araatus Yakuza
Group Leader(s): Panda, Maxy, Axel, Loki And Squeak
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validations
Validations Listed: The Verona Family
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Group name:the montana family
leaders:Kent Romeo Mario
New gang or adding validations:adding
validationss listed Verona
The typing is poor becux I'm on my itouch
when I get close to a computer I will use proper template
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Group Name: Varrio Pico Nuevo.
Group Leader(s): Fernando Herrera.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validations.
Validations Listed: El Corona Street G'z.
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By the way, whoever edited the Corleone entry - you can't really do that. You have to declare, specifically, who.
You can declare on everybody if you want to do that.
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Group Name: The Montana Family
Group Leader(s):Kent_Montana Romeo_Montana Mario_Montana
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding Validations
Validations Listed:Verona
EDIT: USed proper template this time ;)
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Group Name: The Verona Family
Group Leader(s):Edward_Verona
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding Validations
Validations Listed:Montana
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Group name: The Corleone Mafia
Group leader(s): Daniel Corleone
New mafia or adding validations? Adding validations
Validations listed: Everybody who tries to cross with us.
By the way, whoever edited the Corleone entry - you can't really do that. You have to declare, specifically, who.
You can declare on everybody if you want to do that.
It's universal enough, I don't want to go back to the forum and add a gang to the list every time a new gang tries to mess with us. Messing with us will result in backfire.
Personally I do not support this whole validations idea. It takes away the whole idea of the game. Let me remind you, this is GTA. And the last thing we need is too much bureaucratism. I cannot see how people can forget that.
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Daniel, as much as I'd totally love to have a "You can gangwar all day, with anyone, for no reason" atmosphere, Gandalf will not allow that. That is why we have come to a compromise, that Gandalf can agree with but that the gangs still get to have wars. Yes, the system is not totally ideal - heck, its pretty irritating. But we have to do that.
Reply if you want to validate with "Every Group". You will be open to attack from anyone who declares on you.
You can do that if you want, but keep in mind that withdrawing a group will be difficult.
Personally I do not support this whole validations idea. It takes away the whole idea of the game. Let me remind you, this is GTA.
And I totally agree with you. I want to bloody annihilate another gang 24/7, but we're not allowed by main admins. So as all the gangs want to war we have to come to a compromise, and this is the closest thing to constant war that I can get allowed at the current time.
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Group Name: Calton Heights Ballas
Group Leader(s): Wayne_Carlton Jeremy_Carlton and Orry_Carlton
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed: Montana Family
more will be added soon.
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Current & Up To Date
Remember to make a new post to add and to not modify existing validation forms.
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Group Name: The Montana Family
Group Leader(s):Kent_Montana,Mario_Montana,Romeo_Montana
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding validations.
Validations Listed:Carlton heights ballas
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Group name: The Corleone Mafia
Group leader(s): Daniel Corleone
New mafia or adding validations? Adding validations
Validations listed: Everybody who tries to cross with us.
Invalid, needs to list specific teams, otherwise this gves you right to revenge anyone, which is not allowed under Argonath server rules..
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Group name: The Corleone Mafia
Group leader(s): Daniel Corleone, Corleone Commision.
New mafia or adding validations? Adding validations
Validations listed: Gvardia Mafia, Cems Gang.
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Group name: South Side Locotes
Group leader(s): Roberto Alvarez.
New mafia or adding validations? Adding validations
Validations listed: Gvardia Mob, East Side Locos, Diablos gang and Join the Crips.
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Group Name: East Side Locos
Group Leader(s): [ESL]Seether
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang listed.
Validations Listed: Diablos Gang, South Side Locotes.
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Group name: South Side Locotes
Group leader(s): Roberto Alvarez.
New mafia or adding validations? Adding validations
Validations listed: Gvardia Mob, East Side Locos, Diablos gang and Join the Crips.
funny how u adding us as enemies when we never even u saw u around us...
here you go
Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): Cofi, Eugene, ect.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: south side locotez, the new montana
Panda, there are quiet a few gangs/mafais that are closed and are still on the list, might wana remove them :)
Montana Family
Thang Family
Varrio Pico Nuevo
Verona Family
El Corona Street G'z
Matr
Chan Triads (not sure)
Montoya
Burkev Mob
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Invalid, needs to list specific teams, otherwise this gves you right to revenge anyone, which is not allowed under Argonath server rules..
It's universal enough, I don't want to go back to the forum and add a gang to the list every time a new gang tries to mess with us. Messing with us will result in backfire.
Either people grow some balls, suck it up and accept the consequences of messing with us or they shouldn't play GTA. Or they simply shouldn't attack us. :roll:
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Either people grow some balls, suck it up and accept the consequences of messing with us or they shouldn't play GTA. Or they simply shouldn't attack us. :roll:
QFT
(http://onefreeinter.net/win.jpg)
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Either people grow some balls, suck it up and accept the consequences of messing with us or they shouldn't play GTA. Or they simply shouldn't attack us. :roll:
Well if you don't validate them then they can't mess with you at all.
You are perfectly welcome to put "all gangs". Everyone who validates you may instantly attack you, though.
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Group name: The Corleone Mafia
Group leader(s): Daniel Corleone
New mafia or adding validations? Adding validations
Validations listed: All mafia families/gangs/groups.
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Group Name: East Side Locos
Group Leader(s): [ESL]Seether
Validations Severed (immediately): Diablos Gang
Reason for ending validation(s): Peace Agreement
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Group Name:Diablos Gang.
Group Leader(s):Ursaring
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang
Validations Listed:South Side Locotes
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Im leader of Sindacco mafai, we dont have mafia topic yet it will be up in 1 hour, but i dont want stracci to fight/atack us anymore.
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Im leader of Sindacco mafai, we dont have mafia topic yet it will be up in 1 hour, but i dont want stracci to fight/atack us anymore.
Did you attack Araatus or Stracci without a validation.
Well.. I know you attacked us, what about them?
Group Name: Araatus Yakuza
Group Leader(s): Panda, Squeak, Maxy, Axel, Loki
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validations
Validations Listed: Sindacco Mafia
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Name: Stracci
Add validation: All groups, [AC], Sindacco, Santinori.
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Group Name: The Santorini Family
Group Leader(s):Mike_Santorini, Joe_Santorini
New Gang or Adding Validations?: The Stracci Family
Validations Listed: Gang War
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Group Name: Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight Cems / Scorpz Cems
Validations Severed (immediately): Araatus Yakuza
Reason for ending validation(s): Cems Gang does not want to fight with them, and trying to improve relations between Yakuza and Gang.
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Group Name: The Santorini Family
Group Leader(s):Mike_Santorini, Joe_Santorini
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding, Chan/Gvardia
Validations Listed: Gang War
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Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): Cofi, Eug
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: santorini :)
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Group Name /b] Chan
Group Leader(s) /b] Stagle, Kwan
New Gang or Adding Validations? /b] adding
Validations Listed /b] Santorini
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i didn't find a better place to post it, so i think here is ok since its about gang conflict
I don't appreciate Violet, squeak getting like 20-30 people (Montana, Araatus, Corleone) to go take over Gvardia HQ when there is 1 Gvardia member online.
Its definitely not following the gang war rules.
I want this situation to be looked over by leaders (Panda)
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Problem is, Eugene, that most of the time we kit up to take on you guys (like, all of you) but then you all log off.
So, we just go to your HQ, sit there for a little while (powertripping, of course) and then go have a standoff at the AR Complex & Araatus Bistro.
:razz:
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Problem is, Eugene, that most of the time we kit up to take on you guys (like, all of you) but then you all log off.
That's exactly what I told him D::::::::::::::;;
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Problem is, Eugene, that most of the time we kit up to take on you guys (like, all of you) but then you all log off.
So, we just go to your HQ, sit there for a little while (powertripping, of course) and then go have a standoff at the AR Complex & Araatus Bistro.
:razz:
well next time please try to come when we all are online, like 3+ members online...
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Thing is that we do go when there are like 7 Gvardia members online. About 15 minutes later, when we are on our way to San Fierro armed up, there are about 3 of you guys left. By the time we get to the HQ, only one guy is even standing there, and the others are in LS or LV (and yes, I did phone ahead as usual).
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Yeah I remember once when /id Gvardia used 2 lines, we got really armed and ready with planning and all, when we arrived there, nobody was near :lol:
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Yeah I remember once when /id Gvardia used 2 lines, we got really armed and ready with planning and all, when we arrived there, nobody was near :lol:
:rofl:
Last week we had about 3lines when i did /id gvardia then i crashed, when i connected again in like 5min there was only 4 people on excluding me :trust:
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i didn't find a better place to post it, so i think here is ok since its about gang conflict
I don't appreciate Violet, squeak getting like 20-30 people (Montana, Araatus, Corleone) to go take over Gvardia HQ when there is 1 Gvardia member online.
Its definitely not following the gang war rules.
I want this situation to be looked over by leaders (Panda)
For your information, Squeak is an Araatus leader. The fact is that when we decided to attack you, you somehow managed to gather around ten of your buddies who are not in Gvardia to attack us, and whilst they were killed, you came on your black Sanchez and hightailed it like a scolded dog, and then you start moaning about it, the whole point of the new gang war system was to decrease moaning not the former. There were around seven or eight Gvardia online when we were coming, by the time of us coming, there were one or two. If you really were that bothered, then you should have used some initiative and do something about it. So, if anything, you are the one who is not following the gang war rules, because you are moaning, and infact some of your allies came back after death, which was upto you to prevent, because after all we were here for a crystal clear reason, eliminate the Gvardia mob out of existence.
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Violet by your words i can see youre not a usefull leader, firstly you get 3different mafias together which is over 20people to come attack 1 mafia group which has less then 10members online.. thats purely being scared that you had to drag so many people against under 10 of our members... if you want a war then do it properly.. not go and outnumber by over 20more people and claim its somewhat our issue that we didnt have members online...
All i see is you having to go and way out number my members because youre to scared to have a fair fight...with equal amounts of people on each side..
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Violet by your words i can see youre not a usefull leader, firstly you get 3different mafias together which is over 20people to come attack 1 mafia group which has less then 10members online.. thats purely being scared that you had to drag so many people against under 10 of our members... if you want a war then do it properly.. not go and outnumber by over 20more people and claim its somewhat our issue that we didnt have members online...
All i see is you having to go and way out number my members because youre to scared to have a fair fight...with equal amounts of people on each side..
Funny how you keep moaning when you lose, and don't look at your own side before accusing others. If you don't like Corleone being so good, then don't go around bad mouthing it. This 'all you see' business is a load of prejudical nonsense, as you don't remember the fact that there were around six groups versus our three. I'm sure you want the names, so here they are: Chan,Gvardia,Diablos, Sindacco, Santorini, Torreto, and that is not forgetting those who came back after death, as well as the ARPD, and SASD Max (Who was helping you as a suspect, by trying to kill Felix Montana).
If you don't like getting your ass kicked, don't provoke Corleone to make you enemies, I'm sure Eugene understand everything I am saying, so go blame him and your other members for calling Corleone inactive because they haven't got any 'action' or saying to me that I am 'proud to think that Corleone is the best criminal group' becaue we won the 2008 Oscar for it. There's one thing people always fail to understand about me, that is, I do not speak out of my ass, whenever I say something, I literally have proof to substantiate what I say. I, or any Corleone don't go around yelling 'NON RP NON RP' whenever we die, it's a game and it's life, if you lose, bad luck. If you don't believe I am saying, then just scroll down, pictures speak a thousand words. Blame yourselves for attacking Wael Corleone too by the way, if you wanted the reason for gang war with you, there it is.
You, Gvardia, wanted to make your 'third' side with Cems, you must be unequivocally arrogant to blame Corleone for Cems members being inactive. I really find it amusing that you of all people call me a bad leader, where I have lead several groups at one time, those who have worked with me have commented upon my organisation, anticipation and to put it simply, skills. I don't go around flaming my own members, which you do, proof is in the pudding in your own CB and your unban request, I can handle my members very well, thank you.
Now, all you are doing is talking with yourself if you wish to moan, you fail to respect the boldness that groups like Corleone show by placing every single group on their validations, you ASK (Spam my PM) to have gang wars with Corleone, just like when you did with Stracci, you moan when you lose, undermining the whole theory of you having your own seperate side. I won't respond to any more moans from you, as you don't deserve any attention for moaning.
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i didn't find a better place to post it, so i think here is ok since its about gang conflict
I don't appreciate Violet, squeak getting like 20-30 people (Montana, Araatus, Corleone) to go take over Gvardia HQ when there is 1 Gvardia member online.
Its definitely not following the gang war rules.
I want this situation to be looked over by leaders (Panda)
rofl exactly the same reason why you broke validation for us for getting raped, hard
Post Merge: July 26, 2009, 05:07:43 am
Funny how you keep moaning when you lose, and don't look at your own side before accusing others. If you don't like Corleone being so good, then don't go around bad mouthing it. This 'all you see' business is a load of prejudical nonsense, as you don't remember the fact that there were around six groups versus our three. I'm sure you want the names, so here they are: Chan,Gvardia,Diablos, Sindacco, Santorini, Torreto, and that is not forgetting those who came back after death, as well as the ARPD, and SASD Max (Who was helping you as a suspect, by trying to kill Felix Montana).
If you don't like getting your ass kicked, don't provoke Corleone to make you enemies, I'm sure Eugene understand everything I am saying, so go blame him and your other members for calling Corleone inactive because they haven't got any 'action' or saying to me that I am 'proud to think that Corleone is the best criminal group' becaue we won the 2008 Oscar for it. There's one thing people always fail to understand about me, that is, I do not speak out of my ass, whenever I say something, I literally have proof to substantiate what I say. I, or any Corleone don't go around yelling 'NON RP NON RP' whenever we die, it's a game and it's life, if you lose, bad luck. If you don't believe I am saying, then just scroll down, pictures speak a thousand words.
You, Gvardia, wanted to make your 'third' side with Cems, you must be unequivocally arrogant to blame Corleone for Cems members being inactive. I really find it amusing that you of all people call me a bad leader, where I have lead several groups at one time, those who have worked with me have commented upon my organisation, anticipation and to put it simply, skills. I don't go around flaming my own members, which you do, proof is in the pudding in your own CB and your unban request, I can handle my members very well, thank you.
Now, all you are doing is talking with yourself if you wish to moan, you fail to respect the boldness that groups like Corleone show by placing every single group on their validations, you BEG to have gang wars with Corleone, just like when you did with Stracci, you moan when you lose, undermining the whole theory of you having your own seperate side. I won't respond to any more moans from you, as you don't deserve any attention for moaning.
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Agreed for 100%
It is part of the game to get raped in my opinion, you should allways be ready for an attack; if you cannot handle it just lay low somewhere :)
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Violet you are truthfully a immature little child with how you act, i was disgusted when you got accepted as admin due to the way you always acting as if youre higher then everyone else, like right now with your little statement:
If you don't like Corleone being so good, then don't go around bad mouthing it
now thats pretty funny how you say Corleone is so good.. made me laugh pretty hard since you guys got owned earlier.. by 2stracci members and you where about 6members.. well the other part about badmouthing i dont really get.. i didnt say you are shit or anything.. but i think you may be needing some glasses ;)..
anyway you can stop with your acting that youre so high above us for now.. kthnxbai!
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Violet you are truthfully a immature little child with how you act, i was disgusted when you got accepted as admin due to the way you always acting as if youre higher then everyone else, like right now with your little statement:
Lol. If you think he's an immature little child, I wonder why he was yet mature enough to be accepted as an admin..?
If you want to flame a member of the administration, then please prepare yourself for the consequences.. Reported..
Everyone.. go moan on your own topics or something.. refrain from using this topic as a moaning topic.
Panda, can you clear up this topic please? :D
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The posts will stand as a testament to why this system was put in place.
I also hate to point the finger, but I fail to see anybody except Gvardia complaining. Even the allies that died alongside you, are not posting here.
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gotta love the 1sided answers.. especially when you where apart of this...
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Just stating the facts.
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Group Name: Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight Cems
Validations Severed (immediately): Luvineri Mafia
Reason for ending validation(s): mafia dead.
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i believe this adding validation on "All mafia families/gangs/groups." not very good cos new groups joins all the time and new validations should be made when the new group is made.
I can agree add all CURRENT groups allowed, but then state which groups is added in the list on first post and not claim "all" always.
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I agree Pancher, I'd rather they both posted a full list. :(
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you somehow managed to gather around ten of your buddies who are not in Gvardia to attack us, and whilst they were killed
complete lie... I dont remember when we got a crew to go attack Corleones, And yesterday when CM,AR,Montana came to our HQ, i did NOT 'manage a group of friends', I came online, got pm from Chan, he said that u guys raiding our HQ, then I DID NOT tell them to go atack u or anything. so cut the crap!
then you start moaning about it, the whole point of the new gang war system was to decrease moaning not the former.
I didn't moan, i asked about the situation, to get explanation, when I saw the rule breaking, and i did it all in /a, so its not like i was flooding main chat.
If you really were that bothered, then you should have used some initiative and do something about it.
I dont know what u are trying to say by this ^
it doesnt make any sense.
and infact some of your allies came back after death, which was up to you to prevent,
I dont see how is it, me rule breaking, if my allies broke a server rule (coming back after death)? i did not told them 'GO ATACK THEM, EVEN IF U ARE DEAD' so stop bullshiting me here!
because after all we were here for a crystal clear reason, eliminate the Gvardia mob out of existence.
well congrats you did well, 20 people VS 1 Gvardia member! well done! :hurray:
you are proud of yourself?
Post Merge: July 26, 2009, 03:17:00 pm
, as you don't remember the fact that there were around six groups versus our three. I'm sure you want the names, so here they are: Chan,Gvardia,Diablos, Sindacco, Santorini, Torreto,
Lol have u ever seen Torreto mafia IG? or ever seen them around Gvardia, they already closed yesterday, so u fail..
Santorini? they have how many members? 2.....
Sindaco.... they got like 2 members too.
Diablos? have u ever see diablos helping Gvarida? no! that's what i thought.
Chans, Yes they do help, they have 2 members but that a good help anyway.
so before coming here and posting some random shit that definatly is not true, think twice.
Post Merge: July 26, 2009, 04:24:07 pm
Lol. If you think he's an immature little child, I wonder why he was yet mature enough to be accepted as an admin..?
If you want to flame a member of the administration, then please prepare yourself for the consequences.. Reported..
Everyone.. go moan on your own topics or something.. refrain from using this topic as a moaning topic.
Panda, can you clear up this topic please? :D
so you are saying that Admins should get better treatment then regular players?
you are very wrong here..
everyone is equal, admin should not get advantage over normal players!
but I fail to see anybody except Gvardia complaining. Even the allies that died alongside you, are not posting here.
ok show me a place or a topic where we can discuss problems like this, or u are saying that rules can be broken and people should get away with it?
if there is a problem, it should be solved, not laid in the passed.
*This should be the topic for Gang Conflicts Discussions too.*
and don't say, use pm or use msn for this discussion, because this is not just 2 people discussion, and people are not available to be online at the same time to use msn.
And if/when you guys going to reply about this,
PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THING TWICE
because as I noticed for some of you its hard to understand simplest things.
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Eugene, I never said it wasn't the place to discuss ;).
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...admin should not get advantage over normal players!
Unfortuneatly, it happens a lot.
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Group Name: Chan Triads
Group Leader(s): Staghle and Kwan Chan
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed:Santorini Mafia, Sindacco Mafia
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Group Name:Sindacco Mafia
Group Leader(s):Jacob_Sindacco
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed:Corleone Mafia, Montana
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Group Name: The Gvardia Mob
Group Leader(s): Eugene_Gvardia, Hell_Gvardia
Validations Severed (immediately): yes
Reason for ending validation(s): They broke their validation with Stracci.
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Huh? o _ O
I don't get the previous post.
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me too.. it doesnt really make sence :redface:
btw Cofi and Eugene are the Don's ;) not hell... :razz:
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Group Name: The Montana Family
Group Leader(s): Michael Montana
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed: Sindacco Mafia
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Group Name: The Gvardia Mob
Group Leader(s): Eugene_Gvardia, Hell_Gvardia
Validations Severed (immediately): yes
Reason for ending validation(s): They broke their validation with Stracci.
Gvardia dosen't have an validation with Stracci, they canceld there validation long time ago, so what is this post about? :conf:
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I think a few conflicts need to be discussed.
- Revenge killing, and people thinking an person is revenge killing while he isn't.
- More pushing on members of group(s) so that people will NOT moan in main chat.
- Moaning on Micro SMG's. (Since the answer of some people on it is: noob weapon etc.)
- What should punishments be on groups attacking groups which they are not validated to.
I would like to arrange a meeting about this tomorrow Saturday 1st of August at 20:00 Central European Time (CET) with several group leaders.
-NitrOx
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Thats my exact dinner time.
Cool. o:
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NitrOx is right. I used Micro SMG vs Corleones and they were saying on main chat "Yea, you killed me because you had Micro SMG, you noob" , if Micro SMG gives you "Advantage" then why they dont buy it? Its my favourite weapon, im not n00b because i use it.
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NitrOx is right. I used Micro SMG vs Corleones and they were saying on main chat "Yea, you killed me because you had Micro SMG, you noob" , if Micro SMG gives you "Advantage" then why they dont buy it? Its my favourite weapon, im not n00b because i use it.
Lol, I'll talk to them about it. But if you want to use Uzi's for anything else than drive-by's that's your choice, you're the one making a fool out of yourself, not anyone else. ;)
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Uzis rock and you know it. They are easy to dodge and not perfectly easy to use.
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That is what we are going to discuss, if people with Micro SMGS would make a fool out of themselves Araatus would all be fools.. I wouldnt support that
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Lol, I'll talk to them about it. But if you want to use Uzi's for anything else than drive-by's that's your choice, you're the one making a fool out of yourself, not anyone else. ;)
Hmmm Mafs... You told on /p "You killed Corleone because you have those noob tec9" and i answered "Its MicroSMG" and you /p "Its still nooby"
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Hmmm Mafs... You told on /p "You killed Corleone because you have those noob tec9" and i answered "Its MicroSMG" and you /p "Its still nooby"
soo?
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Hmmm Mafs... You told on /p "You killed Corleone because you have those noob tec9" and i answered "Its MicroSMG" and you /p "Its still nooby"
You're making absolutely no sense.
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You're making absolutely no sense.
My english is not so good. So you didnt understand me well... Point is: Mafs called MicroSMG "NOOB WEAPON" on /p ...
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My english is not so good. So you didnt understand me well... Point is: Mafs called MicroSMG "NOOB WEAPON" on /p ...
soo?
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Group Name: The Ancelotti Family
Group Leader(s): Mango Ancelotti, Arno Ancelotti, Kent Ancelotti.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validation
Validations Listed: Diablos Gang.
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Group Name: Diablos Gang
Group Leader(s): Urs_Diablos, Tsubo_Diablos FoxClaw.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validation
Validations Listed: Cems Gang
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Group Name: Diablos Gang
Group Leader(s): FoxClaw, Urs_Diablos, Tsubo_Diablos
Validations Severed (immediately): Sons Of Silence, South side locotes
Reason for ending validation(s): They are Dead.
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Group Name: Diablos Gang
Group Leader(s): FoxClaw, Urs_Diablos, Tsubo_Diablos
Validations Severed (immediately): Sons Of Silence, South side locotes
Reason for ending validation(s): They are Dead.
Group Name: The Ancelotti Mafia
Group Leader(s): Mango Ancelotti, Kent Ancelotti
Validations Severed (immediately): Diablos gang
Reason for ending validation(s): They are under new leadership
Post Merge: August 06, 2009, 12:12:11 am
Group Name: The Ancelotti Family
Group Leader(s): Mango Ancelotti, Kent Ancelotti, John Ancelotti.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: The Koltsovi Mafa
Validations Listed: N/A
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is this Validation thing screwed??? Today, Gvardia attacked Easi Side Locos without any fucking Validation WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ? Where are the fucking Rules ? why this fucking Validation this was even putted then?
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If invalid groups attack you you should report to Administration, if they do not respond, take screenshots so that they can be punished, although I can assure you these rules are handled well but not by FEW groups..
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If invalid groups attack you you should report to Administration, if they do not respond, take screenshots so that they can be punished, although I can assure you these rules are handled well but not by FEW groups..
i cant report an Admin IG, thats a really a shame, im not gonna complain or anything, Really fuck this, im trying as much to avoid roleplaying with " Mafia " when they come to you by themselves, its like they Force the fucking Roleplay, pfff and how bad it is, Taking Personal matters from OOC to the Game!! Seriously i tought this Gang War system was Fair, but how could it be now? Whatever!
- Back to Topic!
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is this Validation thing screwed??? Today, Gvardia attacked Easi Side Locos without any f**king Validation WHAT THE f**k IS THIS ? Where are the f**king Rules ? why this f**king Validation this was even putted then?
Validations is for gang wars.
we came to ur hood, wanted to talk about some things (RP ofc), then u started acting tough and running around like little kid, its your problem, you should of RPed instead of running around and acting like you are the shit.
we did not gang war on you yet.
Post Merge: August 07, 2009, 09:21:02 pm
i cant report an Admin IG, thats a really a shame, im not gonna complain or anything, Really f**k this, im trying as much to avoid roleplaying with " Mafia " when they come to you by themselves, its like they Force the f**king Roleplay, pfff and how bad it is, Taking Personal matters from OOC to the Game!! Seriously i tought this Gang War system was Fair, but how could it be now? Whatever!
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u didnt want to hear the reason why we came to talk to u there, even when i started talking in OOC , u said no, so dont wine now, you messed up, now take it like a men
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Validations is for gang wars.
we came to ur hood, wanted to talk about some things (RP ofc), then u started acting tough and running around like little kid, its your problem, you should of RPed instead of running around and acting like you are the shit.
we did not gang war on you yet.
yeahhhhhh sure, now you're forcing people to Roleplay? i said many fucking times that i avoid Roleplaying with " Mafia " and a San fierro now what brings you all the way to Los Santos? " a Speech " im not dumb okay? Find another Reason, " we want to roleplay with you " is a fake one!
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Eugene, you broke the validation rules..
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yeahhhhhh sure, now you're forcing people to Roleplay? i said many f**king times that i avoid Roleplaying with " Mafia " and a San fierro now what brings you all the way to Los Santos? " a Speech " im not dumb okay? Find another Reason, " we want to roleplay with you " is a fake one!
stop crying and making things up that you know is BS.
the reason i came there to talk to you is beacuase your gang gunned down one of my men earlier today, and if u are going to say 'WTF that was OOC, he was breaking rules'. then why u shot him?, if someone is breaking rules, u need to report them, not kill rule breakers.
Cems Gang Added to Allies.
Gvardia Mob added to Enemies.
Corleone Mafia added to Neutral.
Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): cofi, eug
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: on ESL
Post Merge: August 07, 2009, 07:27:05 pm
Eugene, you broke the validation rules..
incrorect, read ALL posts i just made...
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stop crying and making things up that you know is BS.
the reason i came there to talk to you is beacuase your gang gunned down one of my men earlier today, and if u are going to say 'WTF that was OOC, he was breaking rules'. then why u shot him, if someone is breaking rules, u need to report them, not kill rule breakers.
Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): cofi, eug
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: on ESL
Post Merge: August 07, 2009, 10:27:05 am
incrorect, read ALL posts i just made...
Ah man you're really funny, you're blaming me now? youd better dont, You broke the Rules, and thanks god i reported you to someone before that mess happens we'll wait for his comment soon!
Group Name: East Side Locos
Group Leader(s): [ESL]Foxclaw
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validation
Validations Listed: Gvardia Mob
Group Name: East Side Locos
Group Leader(s): [ESL]Foxclaw
Validations Severed (immediately): South Side Locotes
Reason for ending validation(s): They are Dead.
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seether if u say that you dont want to have ur gang involved with any mafias. then why u shot mafia member down, u the one started it, so stop whining
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seether if u say that you dont want to have ur gang involved with any mafias. then why u shot mafia member down, u the one started it, so stop whining
whining is for guys like you, here im just Talking about someone who Broke Rules which he has agreed on HIMSELF, Im not the guy that moans In Main chat " Admins help hes rulebreaking " i /report once, if nothing happens i do my own, Playa Gvardia Was Insulting, Kicking everyone at GS9, Jumping on the Car and Beating, and Carjacking our own ride, you think i would " /report Hey Admin, Playa is kicking me :) " i did what was right, and i was too kind and reported him to you gently, and still responding was totally screwed from your side, instead of thanking... The Reason which made you attack us Randomly Today! Thanks " Moderator " For Respecting the rules!
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Im not the guy that moans In Main chat
yea just like right now, when the shotout broke out IG, you started yelling in main chat with caps. ;)
and still responding was totally screwed from your side, instead of thanking... The Reason which made you attack us Randomly Today! Thanks " Moderator " For Respecting the rules!
sorry but this doesnt make any sense, mind translating that to English please?
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yea just like right now, when the shotout broke out IG, you started yelling in main chat with caps. ;)
sorry but this doesnt make any sense, mind translating that to English please?
pfff man! Seriously...
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Sorry to say, you can't attack another group as a whole without validation, Eugene.
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Sorry to say, you can't attack another group as a whole without validation, Eugene.
did u read the posts? ^
plz do so
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You broke the rules, Eugene.
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You broke the rules, Eugene.
awsome
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did u read the posts? ^
plz do so
I read them three times, I think saying sorry to ESL would just be the best way to end this...
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tell me what rule i broke, and i will explain in details ;)
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Group Name: East Side Locos
Group Leader(s): [ESL]Foxclaw
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validation
Validations Listed: Diablos Gang
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Group Name: Diablos Gang
Group Leader(s): Urs_Diablos
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validation
Validations Listed: East Side Locos
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tell me what rule i broke, and i will explain in details ;)
Gangs without official double validation in this thread may not fight, even if both sides technically agree ingame.
Simple... emphasis on the phrase 'even if'... you attacked ESL as a whole, which is breaking the gangwar rules.
Please, also stop telling everyone to read all the posts again and again, if you read something which is wrong two hundred times, it doesn't make it right.
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Corleone Mafia
:: All Gangs/Mafias/Groups
What does this mean?
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Corleone Mafia
:: All Gangs/Mafias/Groups
What does this mean?
Every single group that has Corleone as a group for gangwar validation may be attacked by Corleone.
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alright so CM got no Allies i guess... well thats stupid...
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alright so CM got no Allies i guess... well thats stupid...
you understood it bad
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alright so CM got no Allies i guess... well thats stupid...
Means if CM is on your list, you are on ours. We can gangwar.
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Gvardia: Please make sure your allies are validated with Corleone, because your ally, Koltsovs attacked alongside with you against Corleone and they are not validated. This has resulted in warnings directed at their members involved for "Invalid Gangwar".
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Gvardia: Please make sure your allies are validated with Corleone, because your ally, Koltsovs attacked alongside with you against Corleone and they are not validated. This has resulted in warnings directed at their members involved for "Invalid Gangwar".
well it says that Corleones has validation on 'every group' so i thought it was okay, but yeah I see your point, they should put up their valadation too :redface:
my bad
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well it says that Corleones has validation on 'every group' so i thought it was okay, but yeah I see your point, they should put up their valadation too :redface:
my bad
All Koltsov who were doing it were temp banned in the morning for invalid gangwar after ignoring administration warnings of not to have gangwar with those you are not validated against, yet a few hours later they do it again...
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Group Name:Koltsovi Mafia
Group Leader(s):Alex_Koltsov,Co leader Rint_Koltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New gang listed
Validations Listed:Corleone Mafia
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Group Name: Angels of Death.
Group Leader(s): Jim_Nail, [iDevil]. (Me and Johnny are ranked third, I'm doing this for Jim.)
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang.
Validations Listed: Corleone Mafia. For now.
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Group Name: The Yoshi Family
Group Leader(s):Kenji_Yoshi
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang listed
Validations Listed:The Corleone,The Hobo,The Gvardia,The Diablos.
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Group Name: The Yoshi Family
Group Leader(s):Kenji_Yoshi
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang listed
Validations Listed:The Corleone,The Hobo,The Gvardia,The Diablos.
sure
Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): Eugene, Cofi
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang listed
Validations Listed: Yoshi Family
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Group Name: The Yoshi Family
Group Leader(s):Kenji_Yoshi
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang listed
Validations Listed:The Corleone,The Hobo,The Gvardia,The Diablos.
ok :) as u wish guys
Group Name: Diablos gang
Group Leader(s):Urs_Diablos
New Gang or Adding Validations?:adding validations
Validations Listed:Yoshi gang
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wait.......can delete Gvardia mob in our gangwar? they just helped me today......
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Validation Severage Form:
[b]Group Name:[/b]
[b]Group Leader(s):[/b]
[b]Validations Severed (immediately):[/b]
[b]Reason for ending validation(s):[/b]
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Group Name: East Side Locos
Group Leader(s): [ESL]Foxclaw
Validations Severed (immediately): Gvardia Mob
Reason for ending validation(s): Abusing The Validation, Its better i guess there will be Less Deathmatching.
At least we cant just fight Like this, This is an unfriendly War, Its all taken From Forums to IG and from IG To forums, We went down to a bad level, everyone, its all about 30 members arguing and bluffing about nothing. Maybe Later when things are more friendly so we can Roleplay a Real war not just Kill the guy and go announce it on forum.
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Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): Eugene, Cofi
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: Angels of dealth
I heard there has been some shooting IG, so just to make sure we dont break any rules, im posting this..
(doesn't necessary mean we are now enemies)
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Group Name: Koltsovi's mafia
Group Leader(s): Alex_Koltsov, [TCL]RintKoltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Straccis family
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Group Name: Montana Family
Group Leader(s): Michael_Montana
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validation
Validations Listed: Gvardia Mob, Koltsovi Mafia
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Group Name: Koltsovi's mafia
Group Leader(s): Alex_Koltsov [TCL]RintKoltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Montana family
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Group Name:Grove Street Families
Group Leader(s):Sean Caltson
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang
Validations Listed:The Corleone Mafia and EC Purple Saints.
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Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s):cofi, eug, ect
New Gang or Adding Validations?:addding
Validations Listed:Chinese Triads Tong~ä¸ÂÂ國三åˆ會塘
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Group Name: Ancelotti
Group Leader(s):Mango, Kent, Gecko
New Gang or Adding Validations?:addding
Validations Listed: The Tong Triads
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Group Name: Costello Irish Mob
Group Leader(s): Kraven
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang/Adding
Validations Listed: The Tong Triads, Montana Family
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Group Name: Koltsovi's mafia
Group Leader(s): Alex_Koltsov [TCL]RintKoltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: The Tong Triads
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Lol, i think Panda forgot about this, or he's busy.
Can any other Gang Mod update this?
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does this Gangwars also means enemies can just park up to the other, kill him and just drive off again?
at the moment i see all of Stracci and Corleone just killing eachother all day long,
and when they see the other BOOM! dead
its just going to dming
i was always pro-gangwar, but not on this way,
only for a 1 time, 1 location event gangwar
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does this Gangwars also means enemies can just park up to the other, kill him and just drive off again?
at the moment i see all of Stracci and Corleone just killing eachother all day long,
and when they see the other BOOM! dead
its just going to dming
i was always pro-gangwar, but not on this way,
only for a 1 time, 1 location event gangwar
Would you expect that when a Stracci sees a Corleone or when a Corleone sees a Stracci to salute drink a coffee and hug each other?No I don't think so and it cannot be called DM,since we are both validated there is no problem I guess :neutral:
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does this Gangwars also means enemies can just park up to the other, kill him and just drive off again?
at the moment i see all of Stracci and Corleone just killing eachother all day long,
and when they see the other BOOM! dead
its just going to dming
i was always pro-gangwar, but not on this way,
only for a 1 time, 1 location event gangwar
It was the community as a whole who asked for gangwar, remember?
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Validated enemies have no limits to fights as long as the no-return rule is enforced. Failure to do so is breaking the gangwar rules.
Any other rules are created, agreed upon, and enforced by each gang and their enemies.
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Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): Eug, cofi
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: Arctic Avengers- USArgonath Terrorist Faction.
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Would you expect that when a Stracci sees a Corleone or when a Corleone sees a Stracci to salute drink a coffee and hug each other?No I don't think so and it cannot be called DM,since we are both validated there is no problem I guess :neutral:
Would you expect Stracci and Corleone just randomly blast eachother when they see the other mafia? That's freaking DM.
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Group Name: South Side G's --- [Gstar]
Group Leader(s):ScorpZ
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New
Validations Listed: Angels of Death
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Would you expect Stracci and Corleone just randomly blast eachother when they see the other mafia? That's freaking DM.
thats not DM thats just poor show of RP,
i dont like when people blame everything on DM then cry and moan about it all day
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Group Name: Angels of Death.
Group Leader(s): Jim_Nail, I'm putting this for him again.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validations.
Validations Listed: Gvardia Mob and South Side G's.
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Group Name: South Side G's --- [Gstar]
Group Leader(s):ScorpZ
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New
Validations Listed: Stracci
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ScorpZ, its adding validations. Panda uses new gang only if he hasn't added your group to the first post.
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Group Name: Ancelotti Family
Group Leader(s): Mango, Gecko, Kent, Amy.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Matr Gang
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Group Name: Diablos Gang
Group Leader(s): Urs, Dratted, Mustaf, Quang
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Corleone mafia
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Group Name: Los Diablos
Group Leader(s):Urs, Dratted, Mustaf, Quang
Validations Severed (immediately): Cems, Yoshi.
Reason for ending validation(s):Yoshi Ended, Cems Leaders Banned, No real reason for Validation to start with.
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Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): Cofi, Eugene
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: 13th street gang, and Imagawa Yakuza
(not trying to start war with them, but just giving them free right to atack us if they wish to :))
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Group Name: Stracci
Group Leader(s):NitrOx
Validations Severed (immediately): Cems
Reason for ending validation(s):Cems = Dead
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I would like to ask a question about something that occurred about two days ago.
Me and several other Corleone members were inside Gnoochi, the Corleone's Bistro, when a group of Straccis stormed the place and attacked us. I nearly had killed two of them, but suddenly they were replenishing their healths by using /pricelist inside the Bistro.
So, the question is: Are they allowed to use /pricelist while attacking someone by Validated Gangwar inside a interior with /pricelist capabilities?
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I would like to ask a question about something that occurred about two days ago.
Me and several other Corleone members were inside Gnoochi, the Corleone's Bistro, when a group of Straccis stormed the place and attacked us. I nearly had killed two of them, but suddenly they were replenishing their healths by using /pricelist inside the Bistro.
So, the question is: Are they allowed to use /pricelist while attacking someone by Validated Gangwar inside a interior with /pricelist capabilities?
I think it should be allowed, because if this will be not allowed then there will be much confusion about other cases. And if they can buy something then you can buy it too and refill health your self also.
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I will not allow anyone in this community say that Cems is dead, until I say so.
If someone say it, even if Gandalf say Cems is dead I take it as provoking,
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That is a rule that must be agreed upon by the gangs themselves.
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As far as I know, Corleones never agreed to the /pricelist because we didn't know this was gonna happen.
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Well, I wouldn't be wrong at all if I said that if Gvardia members were removed of their armour and ninety percent of their HP from Corleone at a battle at Gvardia HQ, many Gvardia members go inside their HQ and spam /buy milk.
As I have been hearing ingame a lot recently, there is some invisible come back after two hour return rule, which actually isn't even on the topic, it does not exist, return time is fixed upon by the two competing groups. Therefore please, read these rules before you consider going back.
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Group Name: Los Diablos
Group Leader(s):Urs, Dratted, Mustaf, Quang
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: Italiano Family
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Well, uh.. let's give it a try and see how it goes.
Group Name: 13th Street Locotes.
Group Leader(s): Julian_Mendez, [WS]Phil_Rivera.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang.
Validations Listed: South Side G's.
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Group Name: Imagawa Yakuza
Group Leader(s):Zesse_Imagawa
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang listed
Validations Listed:Gvardia Mob, Diablos gang
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Group Name: South Side G's
Group Leader(s): [Gstar]ScorpZ
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed: 13th Street Locotes
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Sorry I am typing this from my PSP. G name: The Tattaglia Crime Family. Leader [AVt]Davey. New gang. Every group that has us on their list.
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Group Name: gvardia
Group Leader(s):cofi eug
New Gang or Adding Validations?:adding
Validations Listed:Tactical Rydaz
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I hope no-one adds my group lol, I want peace with all groups, we just want to race. :lol:
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I hope no-one adds my group lol, I want peace with all groups, we just want to race. :lol:
If you don't add any, you can't be attacked.
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I hope no-one adds my group lol, I want peace with all groups, we just want to race. :lol:
Who'd wanna waste time shooting up racers anyway? Be kinda pointless, just steal their cars instead. :)
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Group Name: Italiano
Group Leader(s):SpagBog_Italiano
New Gang or Adding Validations?:adding
Validations Listed:corleone mafia and cems
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Group Name: Sun Yee On Triads
Group Leader(s): Tsui_Feng
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang listed
Validations Listed: Corleone Mafia
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Removing all validations for the Corleone Mafia until all abuse has been investigated and cleared.
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Removing all validations for the Corleone Mafia until all abuse has been investigated and cleared.
wise.
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Group Name: Sun Yee On Triads
Group Leader(s): Tsui Feng
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Chan Triads
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Group Name: Chan Triads
Group Leader(s): Staghle_Chan
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Sun Yee On Triads
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Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): Cofi Eug
Validations Severed (immediately): with CM
Reason for ending validation(s): they canceled validations with all groups, so i dont want unexpected attack from them :)
Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): cofi eug
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: Stracci :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Group Name:The Stracci Mafia
Group Leader(s):NitrOx Stracci, Flash Stracci
Validations Severed (immediately):[Gstar]
Reason for ending validation(s): The reason for ending validation is that [Gstar]Nitrous and [Gstar]ChriZ started moaning in main chat, shouting OMG OMG DM STRACCI SUCKS DICK.
We do not tolerate that behaviour as validated towards you and drop it untill [Gstar]Nitrous and [Gstar]ChriZ are removed from your group.
Thank you.
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no im not leaving Gstar for you.
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no im not leaving Gstar for you.
Who said you must leave Gstar dude?He expects to you get kicked for what you did.
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yes but he deserves it
i just log on, BAM im dead.
but when Raw/Me/Chriz/ScropZ/Dezaster/Xterm/MrsTube/Jimmy/Curtis and god knows how many good RPers we have.
your to scared to come to our turf or anything..
u can only attack when only me and chriz are online
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yes but he deserves it
i just log on, BAM im dead.
but when Raw/Me/Chriz/ScropZ/Dezaster/Xterm/MrsTube/Jimmy/Curtis and god knows how many good RPers we have.
your to scared to come to our turf or anything..
u can only attack when only me and chriz are online
Ill Come to your Turf, And Kill you Both, You Are Just Provoking Now.
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1st.If you think we Dmed you use /report
2nd.Gang wars are about DM skills not RP really.
3rd.You are just one day in Gstar so you don't know anything really.We have attacked Gstar even outnumbered.
4th.Only you two were online we attacked you.Where's the problem?
Please stop provoking us by replying here and saying same things
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Even with this Validation there's still moaning think this needs a re-check and made a bit more strict.
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I would like to suggest some weapon restrictions in gang wars, so then everyone would enjoy the battles.
Example:
Allowed weapons: Silenced, Deagle, Pump Shotgun, SMG, AK-47, M4.
Dis-allowed weapons: Sniper, Combat, Sawn-offs, Tec9's, 9mm's, Mac-10's.
Similar to what I wrote here. http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=39331.0
Just a suggestion, so there might be less moaning and more realistic battles.
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I would like to suggest some weapon restrictions in gang wars, so then everyone would enjoy the battles.
Example:
Allowed weapons: Silenced, Deagle, Pump Shotgun, SMG, AK-47, M4.
Dis-allowed weapons: Sniper, Combat, Sawn-offs, Tec9's, 9mm's, Mac-10's.
Similar to what I wrote here. http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=39331.0
Just a suggestion, so there might be less moaning and more realistic battles.
Amen. :pop:
Yeah, that's a great idea.
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Uhm....I agree but I disagree with removing combat.The duals are always used in gang wars.I use combat shotgun and I don't think what's wrong with it.Also the sniper is a good weapon so I suggest to disallow all weapons except combat and sniper
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Agreed with Julian but keep the combat shotgun.
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Have gang fights in Arena 1 & Arena 2 in Blueberry. :) (j/k btw)
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I agree with him, but i want the dual guns to be allowed in drive-bying as passenger.
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Group Name: 13th Street Locotes
Group Leader(s): Julian_Mendez, [WS]Phil_Rivera
Validations Severed (immediately): South Side G's
Reason for ending validation(s): Since fights most of the time ends up in whining, and me and one more member got tempbanned for something we didn't do because of them reporting us.
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Same reason for us ending validation :)
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We dont want anything to do with this Validation stuff anymore its A BIG DM FEST it shuld all be closed down immediately from what i have seen and believe.
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Same reason for us ending validation :)
Nitrox you talk shit here. Your members talk shit IG and now you drop the validations cuz of what two of our members said once in /p. Everyone has already read why you dropped the validation. So why do you post this? Simply to give a bad name to Gstar.
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We dont want anything to do with this Validation stuff anymore its A BIG DM FEST it shuld all be closed down immediately from what i have seen and believe.
look whos talking about " DM ".
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We dont want anything to do with this Validation stuff anymore its A BIG DM FEST it shuld all be closed down immediately from what i have seen and believe.
We think you are not roleplaying anything, so you cannot DM anyone anymore anyways since they drop validations against people that they dont like attitude of :)
Group Name:Stracci
Group Leader(s):NitrOx
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed:Diablos
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Group Name:Diablos
Group Leader(s):Urs, Mustaf, Dratted, Quang
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed: Stracci
:)
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We think you are not roleplaying anything, so you cannot DM anyone anymore anyways since they drop validations against people that they dont like attitude of :)
Not to provoke or make an arguement but each day Corleone get chased/killed by 5-10 Stracci members without a reason :/ Even in our RP and they suddenly appear and kill us all. And we did absolutely nothing to them :neutral:
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That is the rule of the validations.
Also, there won't be a weapon rule, since you named all of the weapons that Araatus uses under the disallowed.
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Group Name: Los Diablos
Group Leader(s):Urs, Quang, Dratted, Mustaf
Validations Severed (immediately): East Side Locos
Reason for ending validation(s): Flaming, Provoking, Threat to Revenge kill, Revenge Killing, Moaning.
Proof:
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/YamahaBruin350/ESLMOANING.png)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/YamahaBruin350/ESLTHREAT.png)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/YamahaBruin350/ESLFLAME.png)
I didn't Screenie All, Validation will be Added at Wish When they Sort it out.
As for Sup3r Proof, he Complained to me About DM'ing, There is No DMing with Validation, Right? Anyway, later On Members of ESL complained to us About DM'ing, No Screenie Though.
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uhh dude... that isnt a reason to end teh validation, is it embarassing to say " i lost, you won "? ... whatever.
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uhh dude... that isnt a reason to end teh validation, is it embarassing to say " i lost, you won "? ... whatever.
Wouldnt It Be Easier to Disipline Your Members? We Will Resume Validation once they are Disiplined.
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Disipline yourself, You lost the war, imitation stracci and The Locotes isnt a good reason to cancel the validation, you couldnt find any other reason " disipline your members " look whos talking...
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Disipline yourself, You lost the war, imitation stracci and The Locotes isnt a good reason to cancel the validation, you couldnt find any other reason " disipline your members " look whos talking...
Yeah, our members arent perfect, But we Behave well in gangwars... Shame you cant say the same
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Yeah, our members arent perfect, But we Behave well in gangwars... Shame you cant say the same
all i can say is that has nothing to do with the gangwar... you could simply report that player to me ( the leader ) shutting down the validation that fast? lman, you were looking for the single reason, you just cant admit it.
Let's not keep arguing, this isnt the topic for this, pm me if you wanna discuss more about it.
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Main problem here, is some criminal groups, wants to have 15 vs 1 gangwars, and some does not. Also tbh, groups have stoped having RP reason to atack each other, they dont have any reason then _Tag. Since i see Corleone's got enough of it, like we did few months ago, i am gonna arrange a meeting, with all leaders that wants this issues to be solve, and get back on having fun, not arguning, moaning etc.
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I don't know why but whenever I go on to just cruise about a single Gvardia always chases me in a ridiculously slow car, and usually within about 3 minutes of me logging in. Makes me smile anyway.
I must be worth lots on the hitlist. :rules:
:D
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Group Name: Italiano Family Mafia
Group Leader(s): SpagBog_Italiano
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed: Angels Of Death, 13th Street Locoets, Araatus Yakuza, Montana Family, Diablos Gang, Stracci Family, South Side G's, Cems Gang, Koltsovi Mafia, The Crips
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Group Name: Italiano Family Mafia
Group Leader(s): SpagBog_Italiano
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed: Angels Of Death, 13th Street Locoets, Araatus Yakuza, Montana Family, Diablos Gang, Stracci Family, South Side G's, Cems Gang, Koltsovi Mafia, The Crips
Oh, holy shit..
By the way, Angels of Death is closed, so it can be removed from the list.
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okie dokie
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Group Name: Koltsovi's mafia
Group Leader(s): Alex_Koltsov, [TCL]RintKoltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Italiano Family Mafia
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good a validation it is :)
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Group Name: The Araatus Yakuza
Group Leader(s): P,A,M,S,L o-o
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Italiano Mafia.
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I've been reading thru the forum, and seen people starts to blame each other because the validation. Why not make restrictions. I mean, rules a group need to follow for having the right to get validations.. For an example, they must have been existing for a month atleast, if someone has proof of a group abusing their right to have a validation, Pandalink can remove their validation rights right away. In this way, people is gonna be more carefull, and hopefully, it decrease the moan between each group.
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Group Name: italiano
Group Leader(s):spagbog
New Gang or Adding Validations?:adding
Validations Listed: gvardia!!!
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Group Name: Gvardia, San Fierro Mob.
Group Leader(s): Cofiliano Gvardia, Eugene Gvardia, Hell Gvardia, Joe Gvardia, Carnage Gvardia, Milos Gvardia, Killar Gvardia.
New Gang or Adding Validations?:adding
Validations Listed: Italiano Mafia.
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Group Name: The Burkev Empire
Group Leader(s): Alexander Burkev, [AVt]Davey_Burkev
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang.
Validations Listed: All Groups/Gangs/Mafias
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Group Name: Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight Cems | QSens Cems
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Burkev Mafia
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Group Name: South Side G's
Group Leader(s): [Gstar]ScorpZ
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Cems Gang
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Group Name: Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight Cems, QSens Cems
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: South side G's
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Group Name: 13th Street Locotes
Group Leader(s): Julian_Mendez, [WS]Phil_Rivera
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding.
Validations Listed: LC Cycos 14
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Group Name: LC Cycos 14
Group Leader(s): [WS]Hector_Lopez (( its johnny atm but im changing IG soon. ))
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang.
Validations Listed: 13th Street Locotes
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Group Name:The Verona Mafia
Group Leader(s):Edward_Verona
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang
Validations Listed: Stracci Family
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Group Name: The Burkev Mob
Group Leader(s): Alexander Burkev.
Validations Severed (immediately): All Mafia's and groups
Reason for ending validation(s): No reason why Davey added it.
Group Name: The Burkev Mob
Group Leader(s): Alexander Burkev
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Mafia's
Validations Listed: Sun Yee Triad, Corleone, Verona
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Group Name: Sun Yee On Triad
Group Leader(s):Tsui Feng
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Mafia
Validations Listed: The Burkev Mob
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Correct.
Whilst technically within the rules, the leader of any gang that does this should be immediately contacted. If they refuse to cooperate, simply cut your validation and you're good to go. Further attacks are admin punishable as gangwar without validation.
L-I-E-S
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Oh?
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Group Name: Italiano
Group Leader(s):spagbog
Validations Severed (immediately):removing
Reason for ending validation(s):Koltsov mafia
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Panda delete Sun Yee On, on the list cuse we have closed it
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LC Cycos 14
:: South Side G's
I think there's a mistake here, he added 13th Street Locotes, not South Side G's. :)
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Group Name: The Stracci Familly
Group Leader(s): 'NitrOx_Stracci
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Cems Gang, [Gstar]
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NitrOx, you're validated to every gang and that hasn't changed so far..
Post Merge: September 10, 2009, 12:01:09 am
Group Name: Italiano
Group Leader(s):spagbog
Validations Severed (immediately):removing
Reason for ending validation(s):Koltsov mafia
"Reason for ending validation(s):Koltsov mafia"
??
Please read the form, don't just randomly put stuff in :/.
Removed anyway.
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Group Name: The Italiano Mafia
Group Leader(s): SpagBog_Italiano
Validations Severed (immediately): The Koltsov Mafia
Reason for ending validation(s): [Reason goes here]
Fixed.
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NitrOx, you're validated to every gang and that hasn't changed so far..
Post Merge: September 10, 2009, 12:01:09 am
"Reason for ending validation(s):Koltsov mafia"
??
Please read the form, don't just randomly put stuff in :/.
Removed anyway.
I dropped validation with gstar and cems before you should keep everything updated, go back a few pages and find out
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I dropped validation with gstar and cems before you should keep everything updated, go back a few pages and find out
Correct about Gstar, but you only dropped validation with those two groups.
You validated yourself to every single group.
I don't see any Cems though, but whatever.
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Group Name: The Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight_Cems
Validations Severed (immediately): Stracci Mafia
Reason for ending validation(s): They ended it with us.
Post Merge: September 10, 2009, 02:15:30 pm
Group Name: The Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight Cems
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Italiango Mafia
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Group Name: The Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight_Cems
Validations Severed (immediately): Stracci Mafia
Reason for ending validation(s): They ended it with us.
Post Merge: September 10, 2009, 02:15:30 pm
Group Name: The Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight Cems
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Italiango Mafia
Ehh, They added validations to you not dropped it. Moose
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Ehh, They added validations to you not dropped it. Moose
Deer.
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Group Name: Seville Boulevard Families
Group Leader(s): Tyrone_Wright
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang, add us
Validations Listed: 13th Street Locotes
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Group Name: 13th Street Locotes
Group Leader(s): Julian_Mendez, [WS]Phil_Rivera
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validations.
Validations Listed: Seville Boulevard Families.
Planning to have some good RP shootouts/brawls with them. Same as with LC Cycos 14. :)
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Group Name: Seville Boulevard Families
Group Leader(s): Tyrone_Wright
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: LC Cycos 14
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Group Name:The Verona Mafia
Group Leader(s):Edward_Verona
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding Validations
Validations Listed: The Solonik
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Group Name: Diablos gang
Group Leader(s): urs, mustaf, dratted
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: east side locos.
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sorry pandalink, i was conused what to right in what box... :(
Post Merge: September 13, 2009, 08:53:50 am
Group Name: Italiano
Group Leader(s):Spagbog And Jurka
New Gang or Adding Validations?:removing
Validations Listed:Gvardia Mob
*Note If any of this is in wrong spot, sorry i was confused what to do where
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I don't understand the last post, sorry.
You want to remove Gvardia or add them?
You used the adding form...
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Group Name: Los Diablos Gang
Group Leader(s):Urs, Dratted, Mustaf
Validations Severed (immediately): East Side Locos
Reason for ending validation(s): Nothing less but a DM Fest, 0 RP in it. so thats why i end this, add to this revenge killing + repeated killing. dratted will upload proof later.
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Reason for ending validation(s): Nothing less but a DM Fest, 0 RP in it. so thats why i end this, add to this revenge killing + repeated killing. dratted will upload proof later.
ohh really you forgot to say Return !!!
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What a Reason uh? man! those words are pretty heavy, do you call this 0 RP? You lost a wonderfull roleplay war and you claim that it was a dm? you never won a shootout, we always do, so you just make up this crazy reason to avoid your Defeat?
[yt=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1grCNXW-g6Y[/yt]
[yt=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok2mCmSJJaQ[/yt]
Lets not forget about Flaming, Insulting, moaning which is not supposed to happen.
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Group Name: Los Diablos Gang
Group Leader(s):Urs, Dratted, Mustaf
Validations Severed (immediately): East Side Locos
Reason for ending validation(s): Nothing less but a DM Fest, 0 RP in it. so thats why i end this, add to this revenge killing + repeated killing. dratted will upload proof later.
u closed it again afte ropening it again dude dude dude u se eu loosing and u close it XD
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You can remove my Yakuza as i closed it.
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Group Name: East Side Locos
Group Leader(s): [ESL]Foxclaw
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validation
Validations Listed: Verona Family
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Im pretty sure i have added Montana to validation before, but i checked the list right now, and i dont see it.
so...
Group Name: gvardia
Group Leader(s): cofi, eug, joe, hell, killar
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: Montana
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Group Name: The Verona Mafia
Group Leader(s): Edward_Verona
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding Validation
Validations Listed: East Side Locos
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Group Name:Italiano Family Mafia
Group Leader(s):SpagBog_Italiano & Jurka_ItalianoT (Trial Underboss)
Validations Severed (immediately):Gvardia Mob, And Cems Gang
Reason for ending validation(s):Gvardia = To much war, and Italiano dosent want Validations. Cems Gang = Now are respected status, and friends
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Btw, SpagBog_Italiano, I checked my list and I still see Italianos in but I saw that you posted a validation remove. I'd like to know if we're still validated or not.
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I Remove the Validation on Stracci for 3 Days Starting from Now.
Reason : Stracci attacked us Even after i and Nitrox had a talk on No Shooting Today.
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Group Name: East Side Locos
Group Leader(s): [ESL]Foxclaw
Validations Severed (immediately): Verona Family
Reason for ending validation(s): They Dropped the validation against Stracci, the whole point was to help Stracci.
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I Remove the Validation on Stracci for 3 Days Starting from Now.
Reason : Stracci attacked us Even after i and Nitrox had a talk on No Shooting Today.
The Validation May Continue as To Much provocation from their side coming to our HQ..
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I Remove the Validation on Stracci for 3 Days Starting from Now.
Reason : Stracci attacked us Even after i and Nitrox had a talk on No Shooting Today.
Maybe you should use the form.
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Group Name: The Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight Cems
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Montana Family.
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Gstar Removes all validation, except Cems We have, its DM excuse, simple..
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So u not gonna kill us?
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These validations are taken into account only for roleplaying, not for mass deathmatching.
Furthermore, it is intolerable to break the server rules using this privilege. We never have sanctioned ruining events, provoking people, deathmatching, and so on.. If any of the groups on the list break rules so long as we are telling you not to incessantly, I can assure you that you will be in for an official warning..
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These validations are taken into account only for roleplaying, not for mass deathmatching.
Furthermore, it is intolerable to break the server rules using this privilege. We never have sanctioned ruining events, provoking people, deathmatching, and so on.. If any of the groups on the list break rules so long as we are telling you not too incessantly, I can assure you that you will be in for an official warning..
There was quotes like yours, but what really happened is that there were no sanctions against the rulebreakers... they were free and they still are, i hope that what you say is really gonna apply this time.
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I woud like to point, that a "signal " to rival group shoud happend, like crusing around there HQ, or organizing unfriendly meeting.
Storming in rival HQ, with 2 or 3 boys , one afk, one without weapon, and one alone in combat, is more then retarded in my point of view.
Also i woud like to note, that we WONT atack rivals when there is only 1-2-3 members of them online, with 30 mans. No not cause we are only moral and stuff, but because that woud create revenges, and too much gang wars in one day then required.
This is how things shoud work out, when we created validations, after few months, some of the groups just used them just to have a constant Team DM without any RP reason, exept "_Gvardia" tag. We had enough, so we STOPED making signal, we STARTED storming in rival HQ, atacking 2-3 members with 15 members, and everything they did to us. Since it turn out that when we try to make the RP out of it, we just get Dmed, or get called cowards, when we cancel validation, when some group is simply not following gang war rules, and total lack of interest is shown by there leaders about it.
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Group Name: The Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight_Cems
Validations Severed (immediately): Gstar Gang
Reason for ending validation(s): They removed validation against us.
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I am here to announce that the Stracci Familly will only do group-wars with people (If example: You are the attacker) will provoke properly on a roleplay matter, such as Ursaring did last night, and such as I did (With spraying horse crap/urine in a boxville) on someone elses HQ. Under provocation I may understand:
Insulting a very high rank, deeply,
Trying to set HQ on fire, or business on fire,
Trying to ruin the business of someone, luring customers something else, making advertisements that that business is not OK, but that it has bacteria or something,
Kidnapping,
Armed Robbery.
I allready have seen great Roleplay from several groups;
Diablos, ESL, Koltsov, Solonik, (Gstar, sometimes)
This is MY own warning and I hope MORE of you will implent this aswell,
If I do not see provoking from the other side (Roleplay) I will simply drop validation, untill you are willing to completely coorporate with that.
Kind regards,
NitrOx Stracci
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Suggestion can be added to NitroX's Announcement:
Gang Wars might only happen when both leaders or co-leaders are online, and after they approved on it, It should be as friendly as it can, to avoid all kind of moaning and to assure a good Fairplay between both Rivals.
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Totally agreed.
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Suggestion can be added to NitroX's Announcement:
Gang Wars might only happen when both leaders or co-leaders are online, and after they approved on it, It should be as friendly as it can, to avoid all kind of moaning and to assure a good Fairplay between both Rivals.
When both leader or co-leader accept having gang war, or just having some of them online?
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When both leader or co-leader accept having gang war, or just having some of them online?
just having both of em online, its got to be orgnised not just random shooting when leaders are off.
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Group Name: The Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight Cems
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: 13th street Locotes
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Group Name: Los Diablos Gang
Group Leader(s): Urs, Dratted, Quang, NusTaF
Validations Severed (immediately): Stracci Family
Reason for ending validation(s): Mess, i will discuss with Nitrox.
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I allready have seen great Roleplay from several groups;
Diablos, ESL, Koltsov, Solonik, (Gstar, sometimes)
ESL isn't roleplaying great!
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ESL isn't roleplaying great!
Look whos talking :rofl:
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ffs its not the topic to discuss it, drop it both.
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ffs its not the topic to discuss it, drop it both.
you're not my mum, are you?
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ESL isn't roleplaying great!
They RP better than you.
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ESL isn't roleplaying great!
Why are you worrying about their RP, worry about your own...
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Group Name: Diablos Gang
Group Leader(s): Urs, dratted, quang, mustaf
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: Stracci
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From the Presidents office.
The streets of the United States of Argonath have not become safer over the last couple of months.
Our esteemed business families have created contracts by which they allow or disallow the solving of armed conflicts.
And the reason for this was to enhance the safety of the streets, and the let the groups settle conflicts without intervention.
However we are receiving numerous complaints of citizens who see increased violence, and in many cases there seems to be no business reasons for the violence. We would there for like to bring it to the attention of the business families that if we receive complaints from citizens, the Ministry of Good Intentions or other business families about using unecessary violence, the Government can and will declare all contracts of this family null and void.
If repeated, the Government can retract the right of a business family to renew contracts, or in the worst case, revoke the license of the business family to operate within the United Stats of Argonath.
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From the Presidents office.
The streets of the United States of Argonath have not become safer over the last couple of months.
Our esteemed business families have created contracts by which they allow or disallow the solving of armed conflicts.
And the reason for this was to enhance the safety of the streets, and the let the groups settle conflicts without intervention.
However we are receiving numerous complaints of citizens who see increased violence, and in many cases there seems to be no business reasons for the violence. We would there for like to bring it to the attention of the business families that if we receive complaints from citizens, the Ministry of Good Intentions or other business families about using unecessary violence, the Government can and will declare all contracts of this family null and void.
If repeated, the Government can retract the right of a business family to renew contracts, or in the worst case, revoke the license of the business family to operate within the United Stats of Argonath.
Nice one, Let this be clear to every person, That really thinks that you can just random DM someone from for example Stracci, And just say: Validation as a reason.
This is a serious warning from Gandalf, Let that be clear.
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Nice one, Let this be clear to every person, That really thinks that you can just random DM someone for example ESL, And just say: Validation as a reason.
This is a serious warning from Gandalf, Let that be clear.
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From the Presidents office.
The streets of the United States of Argonath have not become safer over the last couple of months.
Our esteemed business families have created contracts by which they allow or disallow the solving of armed conflicts.
And the reason for this was to enhance the safety of the streets, and the let the groups settle conflicts without intervention.
However we are receiving numerous complaints of citizens who see increased violence, and in many cases there seems to be no business reasons for the violence. We would there for like to bring it to the attention of the business families that if we receive complaints from citizens, the Ministry of Good Intentions or other business families about using unecessary violence, the Government can and will declare all contracts of this family null and void.
If repeated, the Government can retract the right of a business family to renew contracts, or in the worst case, revoke the license of the business family to operate within the United Stats of Argonath.
yeah dude i want more gang rp than gang war
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Someone is gonna have to do some explanation of that for the main topic then, because I have no idea and I can't rewrite a ruleset for rules that I don't understand.
By the rules of validation every policy is within the groups only.
Players who complain to main admins should be immediately kicked from groups if they persist to do so and not follow the validation griefing rules which are:
:: Report griefers/returners to the leader of their group only.
:: If that leader refuses to act, or the griefer is the leader himself, then drop validation with that group, or have your leader do it.
:: If your leader also refuses to act, leave the group.
:: If you drop validation and the other group continues to attack, report them and they will be banned.
I mean, seriously.
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Someone is gonna have to do some explanation of that for the main topic then, because I have no idea and I can't rewrite a ruleset for rules that I don't understand.
By the rules of validation every policy is within the groups only.
Players who complain to main admins should be immediately kicked from groups if they persist to do so and not follow the validation griefing rules which are:
:: Report griefers/returners to the leader of their group only.
:: If that leader refuses to act, or the griefer is the leader himself, then drop validation with that group, or have your leader do it.
:: If your leader also refuses to act, leave the group.
:: If you drop validation and the other group continues to attack, report them and they will be banned.
I mean, seriously.
With no Sanctions, there are no rules...
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Group Name: The Garcia Mob
Group Leader(s): Emilio Garcia, Nemo Garcia
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang, adding validations
Validations Listed: Montana.
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Group Name: Koltsovi's mafia
Group Leader(s): Alex_Koltsov, [TCL]RintKoltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: South Side G'. [Gstar]
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Group Name: South Side G's
Group Leader(s):[Gstar]ScorpZ
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed:Koltsovi Mafia
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Group Name: Koltsovi's mafia
Group Leader(s): Alex_Koltsov, [TCL]RintKoltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Solonik
I had to do it a long time ago ...
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G-Star is best!! :m4: :sig:
lol
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G-Star is best!! :m4: :sig:
not flooding every topic with useless crap is even better.
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I'd just like to reiterate that any problems anyone is having with the system are caused by the gangs themselves.
If you don't want to be involved in the system then you do not have to.
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Group Name: Glen Park Crips
Group Leader(s): Darius_Williams, Craig_Kingston
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang. :)
Validations Listed: Seville Boulevard Families.
You can remove 13th Street Locotes from the list, as it's closed for now. :)
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Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s):
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Removing
Validations Listed: Stracci
Due to inability to stay within the rules.
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:o
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Group Name: Gvardia
Group Leader(s): Gandy
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Removing
Validations Listed: Stracci
Due to inability to stay within the rules.
I hate using internet abbrevations, but LOL.
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Group Name: Seville Boulevard Families.
Group Leader(s): Tyrone Wright.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding.
Validations Listed: Glen Park Crips.
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Group Name: Cems Gang
Group Leader(s): Dwight Cems
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Gstar
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Group Name:Back Street Bloodz
Group Leader(s):SpagBog_Bloodz
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang
Validations Listed:The Sindacco Family
The Corleone Mafia
Angels Of Death
13th Street Locoets
Araatus Yakuza
Stracci Family
South Side G's
The Crips
Montana Family
Diablos Gang
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Group Name:Back Street Bloodz
Group Leader(s):SpagBog_Bloodz
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang
Validations Listed:The Sindacco Family
The Corleone Mafia
Angels Of Death
13th Street Locoets
Araatus Yakuza
Stracci Family
South Side G's
The Crips
Montana Family
Diablos Gang
Told you last time too, Angels of Death and 13th Street Locotes are closed..
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/me smiles
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Group Name:Back Street Bloodz
Group Leader(s):SpagBog_Bloodz
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang
Validations Listed:The Sindacco Family
The Corleone Mafia
Angels Of Death
13th Street Locoets
Araatus Yakuza
Stracci Family
South Side G's
The Crips
Montana Family
Diablos Gang
you have a long road to survive man
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Group Name: Koltsov
Group Leader(s):
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Removing
Validations Listed: ALL VALIDATIONS
Due to inability to stay within the rules and using validation as excuse to DM
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Before taking a such big decision, can I know the names of the rulebreakers ? Could we talk before it ? Let me the time to warn or talk to my members ?
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Group Name: Glen Park Crips
Group Leader(s): Darius_Williams, Craig_Kingston
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding.
Validations Listed: East Block Bloods
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Group Name: East Block Bloods
Group Leader(s): Tyrone Wright ( will changename to OShea Jackson ) Co-Leader = Marquis Johnson
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed: Glen Park Crips
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Before taking a such big decision, can I know the names of the rulebreakers ? Could we talk before it ? Let me the time to warn or talk to my members ?
Agree with alex. its better then Just fucking up mafia...
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Well, We set up a false drug deal with [Gstar]Mr_Curtis to extract revenge on the Gstar group, as they kidnapped and killed one of our lower-ranked soldiers. We requested that Koltsov capture
Curtis as it may cause problems if we tried to do it, as they expected us to retaliate for there actions. All went well untill Curtis phoned some Stracci's who, with Curtis, Dmed the Koltsovs involved and began to hunt them/attempt to kill them.
Imo it should have been stracci that had the validations dropped, and Im not quite sure what happened.
Red lines says it all.
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So Koltsov's want their validations back!
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Group Name: Koltsov
Group Leader(s):
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Removing
Validations Listed: ALL VALIDATIONS
Due to inability to stay within the rules and using validation as excuse to DM
Communication is the key. So kinda pathetic to do this to all of us, when not everyone is involved. Honestly Gandalf, talk to Alex so he can get the names and can resolve it in a more Professional Manner. Thanks.
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So Koltsov's want their validations back!
If koltsov can manage their actions, they will receive their rights to add validations back.
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Tell the rulebreakers names and i'll be able to talk with them and then warn/kick from the Family.
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Tell the rulebreakers names and i'll be able to talk with them and then warn/kick from the Family.
Which is exactly my point. I love the Validation system personally. So when you have a Validation with another Family or gang, we can have a type of "war" with some realism. Now having wars like multiple times a day with 1 group is bs. Unless they are the "backup". I am one of the few who enjoy driving down the road, i see someone tailing me, i call in to the other members and try to ambush the tail. Alot of realism, i also enjoy RPing my actions so the other person gets a hint at whats going on. I find this very fun, when people claim its DM and all that, they should quit the moaning. If they cannot handle the Validation system 1) They seriously shouldnt be in a Mob or a gang. 2) Cancel Validations and try to not come in contact with that group. Very simple resolution, not rocket science.
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You all should be thankfull to Gandalf that gang war is even here on Argonath.
There was a big discussion about it and at the end Gandalf allowed it BUT there are some rules
and if you misuse the gangwar or ignore the rules the punishment will be taken instantly and thats what hapened to you Koltsov's.
Even befor telling your men you can have gangwars with you're enemys you should have also explained them the rules, thats you're responsibility...
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Now you're saying I've recruited new players only and I never explained anything about gang wars ... Once you can kill everyone with a validation, once you can't, once you need a RP reason. Rules keep changing everytime. All my men know what to or not to do, the fact is I can't be everywhere and see everything, everyone knows there will always be rulebreakers and they won't follow the rules and they has to be punished, taught. I'm very harsh with rulebreakers in my family do do not say such things please.
I think we got unfairly punished here, I'm not saying Gandalf is doing a bad job or criticks the Gang Wars rules or anything but everyone has to learn from their mistakes and we didn't even receive a warning about it, I don't even know the names of the rulebreakers and can't take actions against them.
P.S: We're going to drop the argues and waiting for an Admin decision now.
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This topic is to ADD Validations Not to go offtopic.
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Group Name:The Bonatti Crime Family
Group Leader(s): Victor,Shin,[AVt]Pete,Tommy
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed:East Side Locos
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Group Name:The Bonatti Crime Family
Group Leader(s): Victor,Shin,[AVt]Pete,Tommy
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed:East Side Locos
excuse to DM uhummm
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Group Name:The Ancelotti Crime Family
Group Leader(s): Romeo, Amy
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed:East Side Locos
Reason:Disrespecting Family, Opening fire on members.
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Reason:Disrespecting Family, Opening fire on members.
Well this is one good surprise :) i would like to know whos "Loco" we talking about, as i cant remember myself i logged on argonath lately for longuer than 5 mins...
Please to validate this reason, i would like some proofs so i can take some actions of members who might have done this kind of move, else your reason will be considered as a Reason to DM as the one above.
And thanks Mango, i thought you could have contacted me about such things but anyway, well see how it goes after some proofs of what happened, i really hope its a Roleplay situation.
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Well this is one good surprise :) i would like to know whos "Loco" we talking about, as i cant remember myself i logged on argonath lately for longuer than 5 mins...
Please to validate this reason, i would like some proofs so i can take some actions of members who might have done this kind of move, else your reason will be considered as a Reason to DM as the one above.
And thanks Mango, i thought you could have contacted me about such things but anyway, well see how it goes after some proofs of what happened, i really hope its a Roleplay situation.
I wasnt really sure that you were active anymore, It was [ESL]Vato, he has been flaming and threatening my family and a few others.
I think he is trying to get ESL into a large war for some reason.
Ill drop the validaton if he is dealt with, because I like ESL and want it to come back.
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I wasnt really sure that you were active anymore, It was [ESL]Vato, he has been flaming and threatening my family and a few others.
I think he is trying to get ESL into a large war for some reason.
Ill drop the validaton if he is dealt with, because I like ESL and want it to come back.
You validation doesnt seem to be causing a problem, its when we both approved thats its gonna be serious, in that case you should have reported him to a leader ( Me ) i myself consider Flaming an threatening as rule breaking, you give me proofs that show what really happened, i take actions.
Adding a validation against a whole group just because of one member isnt the best to do, its a copy paste of the mistake that member made...
+ That reason im sure it wasnt in any kinds of a roleplay situation, everything has it sources, so to take valid actions i need proofs and investigation about what really happened.
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Group Name:The Ancelotti Crime Family
Group Leader(s): Romeo, Amy
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Removing
Validations Listed:East Side Locos
Reason:I trust Myles to sort it.
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i got a question,
are enemie groups allowed to kidnap/rob which leading to shootings/kilings with groups that dont have validation with them?
like today stracci and another mafia that doesnt have validation with gvardia, came to my casino, started robbing me, told me to get down on the ground, i did so, then they killed me.
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i got a question,
are enemie groups allowed to kidnap/rob which leading to shootings/kilings with groups that dont have validation with them?
like today stracci and another mafia that doesnt have validation with gvardia, came to my casino, started robbing me, told me to get down on the ground, i did so, then they killed me.
It would just be stupid if we couldn't rob you, don't you think? It's like we cannot roleplay with you. Far as I remember, the validation was made so gangs can have wars between eachother, not some "Fill this to RP with other groups".
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It would just be stupid if we couldn't rob you, don't you think? It's like we cannot roleplay with you. Far as I remember, the validation was made so gangs can have wars between eachother, not some "Fill this to RP with other groups".
Then if someone co-operate in your RP, no need to DM him at the end, and use "We are RPing" as an excuse.
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i got a question,
are enemie groups allowed to kidnap/rob which leading to shootings/kilings with groups that dont have validation with them?
like today stracci and another mafia that doesnt have validation with gvardia, came to my casino, started robbing me, told me to get down on the ground, i did so, then they killed me.
Yes it is allowed, aslong as they roleplay it out good then its fine. As long as they dont kill you without a valid rp reason. Also they shouldnt be robbing you every 15 mins either. Way i look at it is if they rob you and you have no way out w/o dieing instantly then play along. If you can do it dodge for cover /me pulls out deagle, ak47 or smg w/e and Resume a fire fight. Unless you in the middle of the room or street, no cover and youll instantly die before you reach cover. Then clearly you wouldn't run off. Also if they dont take your cb /me uses radio :) call for backup.
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Group Name: Koltsovi Mafia
Group Leader(s):Alex_Koltsov Leader , [TCL]RintKoltsov co-leader
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed:Stracci
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Group Name: Angels of Death
Group Leader(s): Jason Brand
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed: East Block Bloods
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Group Name: Angels of Death
Group Leader(s): Jason Brand
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed: East Block Bloods
Yupi finally you put :D when i will get unbann we will pwning them ;)
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Group Name:13th Street Locotes.
Group Leader(s):Julian Mendez, Carlos Herrera.
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang.
Validations Listed:Santiago Mafia, Diablos Gang.
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Group Name:13th Street Locotes.
Group Leader(s):Julian Mendez, Phil Rivera.
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang.
Validations Listed:Santiago Mafia, Diablos Gang.
seanie, what did we did so you've putted validation on us D:?
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seanie, what did we did so you've putted validation on us D:?
We're wearing a same gang color, our side is not happy about that ICly, so we're planing to do some RP with Diablos that will make something happen.
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Group Name: Angels of Death
Group Leader(s): Jason Brand
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed: East Block Bloods
I have doubts you talked to Mike about this. Mike doesn't believe in gang war validations and Crip'z was an exception so admins would back off from the verbal role-play. He would only do this if both gangs have clear rules on what's allowed.
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Group Name: The Ancelotti Crime Family
Group Leader(s): Romeo Ancelotti
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed: Santiago
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Group Name: Koltsovi's family
Group Leader(s): Alex_Koltsov , Rint_Koltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed: Alvarez
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Group Name: The Ancelotti Family
Group Leader(s): Romeo Ancelotti
Validations Severed (immediately): Santiago
Reason for ending validation(s): Turf war has ended
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Group Name: Stracci
Group Leader(s):Joe Stracci
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed:Ancelotti
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Group Name: Stracci
Group Leader(s):Joe Stracci
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed:Ancelotti
Dont bother, I wont have you DM us again. I know the story, and I know how it happened.
Next time you do it, I'll make sure I have sufficient evidence of your rulebreaking to have you punished.
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Dont bother, I wont have you DM us again. I know the story, and I know how it happened.
Next time you do it, I'll make sure I have sufficient evidence of your rulebreaking to have you punished.
Contact Me In Future if You Decide to..
I Can Dig a Few Screenies.
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Dont bother, I wont have you DM us again. I know the story, and I know how it happened.
Next time you do it, I'll make sure I have sufficient evidence of your rulebreaking to have you punished.
Take your own advice before you preach it please.
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Take your own advice before you preach it please.
Keep out, our war was valid and the only reason you are annoyed is because you lost badly.
You came to our turf unannounced, tried to take it over, so we responded with violence. (As criminal groups usually do.)
And yes, We validated you beforehand. So dont bitch.
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Keep out, our war was valid and the only reason you are annoyed is because you lost badly.
You came to our turf unannounced, tried to take it over, so we responded with violence. (As criminal groups usually do.)
And yes, We validated you beforehand. So dont bad guy.
You might want to re-read first page. I love how you fail to comply with anything. Cant wait till you actually grow up you will become a more of a decent guy. No we left because 13th Street stopped and El Corona was all unowned. If 13th Street was their, we would have stayed in Bayside. So get the truth before you spread your disease ridden lies. Oh yes i know many Mobs irl who randomly go out and kill people of their 'turf'...rofl your such a jokester. Yea im done with you Mango, your not worth my time at all there champ.
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You might want to re-read first page. I love how you fail to comply with anything. Cant wait till you actually grow up you will become a more of a decent guy. No we left because 13th Street stopped and El Corona was all unowned. If 13th Street was their, we would have stayed in Bayside. So get the truth before you spread your disease ridden lies. Oh yes i know many Mobs irl who randomly go out and kill people of their 'turf'...rofl your such a jokester. Yea im done with you Mango, your not worth my time at all there champ.
Mobs fight over turf constantly. Every GTA game is about it, play some SP GTA's and see how it really works.
Leone's kill Forelli's, Grove Street kill Ballas, Cubans kill Haitains. All in gang war over turf. Dont like it? Then GTA aint for you.
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Mobs fight over turf constantly. Every GTA game is about it, play some SP GTA's and see how it really works.
Leone's kill Forelli's, Grove Street kill Ballas, Cubans kill Haitains. All in gang war over turf. Dont like it? Then GTA aint for you.
You wish gta aint for me :rofl: i wouldnt be able to rock Argonath. As i said im done with the arguements. We have no real reason to hate each other in game or out of the game. I honestly have nothing against you, just your cocky attitude doesnt help your reputation. Now that that pathetic turf war is over we seriously have no quarrel with eachother. Hope to see you in game on good terms.
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to be honest you guys are both childish by taking this argument into public topic instead of using pm to discuss your own issues.
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to be honest you guys are both childish by taking this argument into public topic instead of using pm to discuss your own issues.
I know i have been imature on this issue and learned not to be immature to attack someone else who does exactly what im doing, for the same reason at that. Which is why we really have no actual reason for any arguements. For this i am ashamed and i take the responsibility of my actions and i hope he agrees and feels the same about his.
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I know i have been imature on this issue and learned not to be immature to attack someone else who does exactly what im doing, for the same reason at that. Which is why we really have no actual reason for any arguements. For this i am ashamed and i take the responsibility of my actions and i hope he agrees and feels the same about his.
Agreed.
Lets just drop this whole thing, We are more benefitial as friends than enemies, no?
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Sorry, completely off topic here, but why does that vercetti guy have an Eminem Lyric quoted in his signature as if he made it up himself? xD
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Sorry, completely off topic here, but why does that vercetti guy have an Eminem Lyric quoted in his signature as if he made it up himself? xD
i think he might be the REAL SLIM SHADDY!
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i think he might be the REAL SLIM SHADDY!
Obviously, Eugene has it correct. Also just PM the question to me rofl.
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Group Name: Genovese
Group Leader(s): Curtis Genovese
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed:
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Group Name: The Barzini Family
Group Leader(s): Vito Barzini
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Mafia
Validations Listed: Koltsovi Mafia
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Group Name: Koltsovi's Mafia
Group Leader(s):Alex_Koltsov / [TCL]RintKoltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Confirming Validation with Barzini
Validations Listed:Barzini
Post Merge: November 30, 2009, 05:32:37 pm
Group Name: Koltsovi's Mafia
Group Leader(s):Alex_Koltsov / {TCL}RintKoltsov
Validations Severed (immediately):Barzini
Reason for ending validation(s):Constant Provoking after winning a Gang war.
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Group Name: Koltsovi's Mafia
Group Leader(s):Alex_Koltsov / {TCL}RintKoltsov
Validations Severed (immediately):Barzini
Reason for ending validation(s):Constant Provoking after winning a Gang war.
Yes. We won against you. But can you please tell me how we provoked you?
(im not mad or anything, just want to now how we provoked you :D)
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Yes. We won against you. But can you please tell me how we provoked you?
(im not mad or anything, just want to now how we provoked you :D)
here:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/28sn1xf.png)
There is more, but i didnt have a chance to screen it. I recieved quite a few PMs saying 'OWNED' etc.
Hope you understand, we dont like being provoked.
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here:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/28sn1xf.png)
There is more, but i didnt have a chance to screen it. I recieved quite a few PMs saying 'OWNED' etc.
Hope you understand, we dont like being provoked.
Those things you haven't screen, could be provoking but this screenie doesn't show any kind of provoking.
But what does it care lol, I wasn't online when this all happend. ;)
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Vito hate to burst your bubble, but when something happens and you say "owned", "pwned" etc etc it does count as provoke. Also Luigi, you should have called me in, even though im an ex-Koltsov i would have grabbed some men and mowed them down, all i need is Frank :D.
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Group Name: Koltsovi's Mafia
Group Leader(s):[TCL]RintKoltsov / Alex_Koltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Re-Confirming Validation with Barzini
Validations Listed:Barzini
We have thought this over, we decided to give you another chance. BUT if you provoke us again the validation will go PERMINANTLY!
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Group Name: The Barzini Family
Group Leader(s): Vito Barzini , Arch Barzini
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Confirming Validation with Koltsovi
Validations Listed: Koltsovi
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We have thought this over, we decided to give you another chance. BUT if you provoke us again the validation will go PERMINANTLY!
I will keep an eye on our members, if there is another sign of provoking or w/e, please take a screenie of it and send me a PM on the forum. :)
Thanks.
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Group Name: Stracci
Group Leader(s):Joe Stracci
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed:Ancelotti
Requesting removal of this, They seem to think that this gives them the right to attack our group... even though we
have refused to confirm it from our side. Now they attack us claiming they validated us, but when we attempt to defend
ourselves it is seen as "DM" as we have not done it also.
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We are not attacking you, you are attacking us, /sigh..
Example: Foster valley, you came again to shoot for no reason, then DMing melvin on the party of Ronn, then when we kidnapped and killed Naipos you came and revenge kill, f**k off allready seriously
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Seriously Mango, You know you are not clean. I had 2 days ago a party at Ronn and Angela house, We were rping, Then 2 ancelotti stormed in and just suddenly killed me with Combat's. Just stfu please Mango.
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Mango. you are attacking us.
Example: We(me and Dolfa) went to see Morodr. Aldo with Antero came after us AND attacked us for no reason.
when we kidnapped and killed Naipos you came and revenge kill
Yeaa.
-You killed me twice in ten minutes.
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Diidididamm
Group Name: The Auditore Mafia
Group Leader(s): Fernando Auditore
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding/new mafia also.
Validations Listed: Ancelotti Mafia.
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NURR NURR NURR
You attack us, you are the one who validated us, so leave it.
We didnt validate you, we follow the rules, we dont attack.
I've got enough evidence, but i'm asking you first to remove it.
It's useless unless we validate too, which aint going to happen.
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Mango. just read my post.It's all clear.
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Group Name: Genovese
Group Leader(s): Curtis Genovese
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed:
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Group Name: Koltsovi Mafia
Group Leader(s):Rint_Koltsov
Validations Severed (immediately):barzini
Reason for ending validation(s):they only causing trouble for us
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Group Name: The Araatus Yakuza
Group Leader(s): [Rstar]Panda, Maxy, Axel, Squeak
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding.
Validations Listed: i9
What the hell is i9 anyway, somebody told me to add it.
Its RI with more guns taxing people for walking down their streets, being our streets :P
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Group Name: The Ancelotti Family
Group Leader(s): Romeo, Frank, Daco, Andros
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding.
Validations Listed: i9
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Group Name: Four Seas Triads
Group Leader(s): Sheng_Lee
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed: Gvardia
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Group Name: Four Seas Triads
Group Leader(s): Sheng_Lee
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed: Gvardia
Noany, you are one of does people, who doesnt have the balls to do anything alone, so your silent and ass liking everyone, and then when you got a bit bigger, you turn your backs, and scream: "Kill does GVARDIAZ mataf**kres" all over cb.
Pathetic.
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Noany, your one of the people, who doesnt have the balls to do anything alone, so your silent and ass liking everyone, and then when you got a bit bigger, you turn your backs, and scream: "Kill does GVARDIAZ mataf**kres" all over cb.
Pathetic.
What?
I don't see what you're trying to say here, I'm putting validation so I can assist my allies if they need it.
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Your group is tagless so there is no way of controlling who is atacking us.
If you or men from your group comes to Gvardia and starts shooting, we can not tell if it is some random DMer or You.
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Your group is tagless so there is no way of controlling who is atacking us.
If you or men from your group comes to Gvardia and starts shooting, we can not tell if it is some random DMer or You.
Actually they are the only ones with hardcore Chinese names o.o .
Group Leader(s): Sheng_Lee
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Seriously Mango, You know you are not clean. I had 2 days ago a party at Ronn and Angela house, We were rping, Then 2 ancelotti stormed in and just suddenly killed me with Combat's. Just stfu please Mango.
I just saw this comment, and as it is merely shit dribbling from his mouth I am going to clear this up.
We were in Ronn's house, then YOU turned up and started prancing around. We poisoned your drink and
send you into a sleepy state, then we had everyone exit the room so that we could pretend to help you, we
took out our silenced 9mm's, talked a bit, then counted down from 5 and shot you. You did not struggle, you merely said /me dies.
So dont talk crap Melvin, and if you think you can turn this on me I can prove it because it was one of many roleplay situations we recorded.
Failure.
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Your group is tagless so there is no way of controlling who is atacking us.
If you or men from your group comes to Gvardia and starts shooting, we can not tell if it is some random DMer or You.
Oh. -.-
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Group Name: Koltsov
Group Leader(s):[TCL]RintKoltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?:adding validations
Validations Listed:Araatus
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Grow up, please.
Now that's a interesting fact you got there.
Look, who's talking.
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Now that's a interesting fact you got there.
Look, who's talking.
Can you PLEASE stop acting like the mature one?
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Can you PLEASE stop acting like the mature one?
Why do you chase me over forum and comment on every single my reply? Can you PLEASE stop acting a smartass, mind your own fucking business.
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Why do you chase me over forum and comment on every single my reply? Can you PLEASE stop acting a smartass, mind your own f**king business.
it helps that they are in the posts im in... Araatus, Gvardia and validations, point me to another one of me following you?
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Group Name: The Araatus Yakuza
Group Leader(s): Panda, Maxy, Squeak, Axel
Validations Severed (immediately): Gvardia Mob
Reason for ending validation(s): Dishonourable Tactics. Interior Spawnkilling.
Our timezones also do not match, leading to guaranteed inequality in combat, which is a bad thing for both of us.
Arguments are getting out of hand, so we wash our hands of this.
SEE THIS (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47315.0)
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Group Name: Four Seas Triads
Group Leader(s): Sheng_Lee
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed: Gvardia
heh try :lol: :rofl:
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:lol: :rofl:
What's so funny?
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What's so funny?
Exactly.
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This is one of the reasons why Corleone has dropped out..
I have intentionally supported the Validations at first, but over the months it has been causing nothing but problems. Now? I personally think it's best to disable the Validations until everybody comes up with a solution to this, par Panda's request.
This is supposed to be just business, but you guys are taking it personally. (Yes, I've quoted it from Godfather, as it pretty much reflects what has happened here.)
:ps: Petar, you've just disrespected the person who help create this topic.
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:lol: :rofl:
I guess someone had a retarded fit right there.
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I guess someone had a retarded fit right there.
Which doesnt give you the right to call anyone like that, since your still a child yourself.
Group Name: The Gvardia Family
Group Leader(s): Cofiliano, Eugene, Hell, MadBoi
Validations adding : Four Seas Triads
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Group Name:koltsov
Group Leader(s):rint
New Gang or Adding Validations?:adding validations
Validations Listed:i9
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Group Name:koltsov
Group Leader(s):rint
New Gang or Adding Validations?:adding validations
Validations Listed:i9
Good luck. :)
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Group Name:koltsov
Group Leader(s):rint
New Gang or Adding Validations?:adding validations
Validations Listed:i9
May the DM begin, hope youre armed.
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Koltsov is hreby DROPPING ALL VALIDATIONS. We need to increase our RP.
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Which doesnt give you the right to call anyone like that, since your still a child yourself.
How you dare to call Tommy that? He is more grown-up then you are..
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How you dare to call Tommy that? He is more grown-up then you are..
He was talking to Alsatian I think.
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NIGGAZ
Chill. Its a Game.
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NIGGAZ
Chill. Its a Game.
ntrly 4 sum
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Group Name: Four Seas Triads.
Group Leader(s): Sheng_Lee
Validations Severed (immediately): Gvardia Mob.
Reason for ending validation(s): Bad and dishonorauble tactics in a fight. Attacked 7 against 4 with 2 medics to recover health, using Combats and Tec-9. At least we put some RP in our attacks, not just come and attack members.
why you canceling validation, there never was a validation between Gvardia and Your triads gang.
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And this one.
Group Name: Four Seas Triads
Group Leader(s): Sheng_Lee
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed: Gvardia
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Oh please why you come and cry here be a man and take it ok.... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Lol this is actually funny.
You kidnap my member, then you get pwned by the rest of Gvardia when they come save him, and then you come here and call us DMers?
how typical.
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Just a note, as it seems people are forgeting...
Validations are NOT excuse for DM
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I currently see more moaning and fighting about who shot who than the time without any rules bound to 'wars'.
So, how about we scrap this validation system, for good old times' sake?
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Alright, lets drop the arguing and leave it at this before something actually happens and someone is going to regret their decision.
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I currently see more moaning and fighting about who shot who than the time without any rules bound to 'wars'.
So, how about we scrap this validation system, for good old times' sake?
I wouldnt mind if this whole validation thing would get closed,
But as long as this is set, then rules are rules.
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Perhaps a petition would do the trick? :razz:
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If you feel so strongly about ending this, make a formal petition and see what happens.
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I currently see more moaning and fighting about who shot who than the time without any rules bound to 'wars'.
Thats because when there were no validations, people got banned for basic criminal roleplay.
A totally crap system is still better than nothing.
And no, I'm not going to update the front page with the fucking massive backlog. I might just do a validation wipe for 2010.
Also, see my topic in SAMP Groups about it.
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Group Name: Le Marseilles Famille
Group Leader(s):Manda_Marseilles , Young_Koltsov
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang/Mafia
Validations Listed:Barzinis,cems,corleones
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Corleone is NOT validated and will not be. Do not attack us or it will be viewed as deathmatching.
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Cems aren't even alive anymore..
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Thats because when there were no validations, people got banned for basic criminal roleplay.
A totally crap system is still better than nothing.
Exactly, although validation system is far from perfect, its better then the situation before making it.
Now all of you, who wants to totally close validation system, should remember how was it to see a fellow criminal, get banned, for basic criminal role play, the whole messing around with admins, who didnt know where to start from, and constant massive arguing, moaning, and crying, 10 times more then the moaning/crying that is happening now.
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Exactly, although validation system is far from perfect, its better then the situation before making it.
Now all of you, who wants to totally close validation system, should remember how was it to see a fellow criminal, get banned, for basic criminal role play, the whole messing around with admins, who didnt know where to start from, and constant massive arguing, moaning, and crying, 10 times more then the moaning/crying that is happening now.
Well. The likes of stracci for instance.
They are validating from their side, and attacking straight away.
That's not how it works!
To validate a group, it must be accepted from BOTH sides or it is not valid. K?!
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I've witnessed the times before this validation system, and I liked it better.
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Scrap the validation system, let us attack whoever we want. If you don't want to get killed, don't join a gang/mafia.
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Scrap the validation system, let us attack whoever we want. If you don't want to get killed, don't join a gang/mafia.
Agreed.
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Scrap the validation system, let us attack whoever we want. If you don't want to get killed, don't join a gang/mafia.
Well said mate so true, Then it would stop the cry baby's comming here to moan cant face the facts of Gang life then its not for you.......
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Scrap the validation system, let us attack whoever we want. If you don't want to get killed, don't join a gang/mafia.
True.
Supported.
Post Merge: December 22, 2009, 06:55:23 pm
Well. The likes of stracci for instance.
They are validating from their side, and attacking straight away.
That's not how it works!
To validate a group, it must be accepted from BOTH sides or it is not valid. K?!
This topic is not made for moaning.
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Scrap the validation system, let us attack whoever we want. If you don't want to get killed, don't join a gang/mafia.
Thats what I said from the start.
But main admins did not agree, so we had to come up with a compromise.
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Let gangs kill gangs, without any care. Let the police catch them, let them be killed and prosecuted.
It's the way of the world. People can kill whoever they want, they just have to be able to deal with what comes afterwards.
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Let gangs kill gangs, without any care. Let the police catch them, let them be killed and prosecuted.
It's the way of the world. People can kill whoever they want, they just have to be able to deal with what comes afterwards.
Wise word mango, couldnt agree more with you here
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Group Name: Sumiyoshi-kay Yakuza
Group Leader(s): Ryu Takashi, Doggi
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed: Wah Ching
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Do you people even care about the Validation system you made? Are you interested in RP at all? Sounds more like you want to fight, fight, fight, fight aka Death Match.. gang vs gang aka group vs group..
I start to wonder... Maybe someone can answer my concerns?
I heard some groups are attacking other groups cos if they do not attack first, the other group will attack them first.. But i didn't understand where it all started so for me it sounds like an evil circle that never ends and the reason is the same, "attack first or get attacked"..
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Do you people even care about the Validation system you made? Are you interested in RP at all? Sounds more like you want to fight, fight, fight, fight aka Death Match.. gang vs gang aka group vs group..
I start to wonder... Maybe someone can answer my concerns?
I heard some groups are attacking other groups cos if they do not attack first, the other group will attack them first.. But i didn't understand where it all started so for me it sounds like an evil circle that never ends and the reason is the same, "attack first or get attacked"..
thats only some groups.
ex: gvardia - araatus (was)
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The validation system is just an excuse for big groups to DM the rest to feel powerfull.
It's being pathetically abused, and I for one want nothing to do with it.
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CAN'T MAFIAS JUST HAVE NORMAL ROLEPLAY TOGETHER? BURN DOWN BUSINESSES, WRECK THEIR CARS, KIDNAPPING RIVAL MEMBERS AND SO ON? WE DONT HAVE TO FUCKING KILL EACH OTHER EVERY FUCKING DAY DO WE?
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BURN DOWN BUSINESSES, WRECK THEIR CARS
MOLOTOVS!
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MOLOTOVS!
Grenade :<
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CAN'T MAFIAS JUST HAVE NORMAL ROLEPLAY TOGETHER? BURN DOWN BUSINESSES, WRECK THEIR CARS, KIDNAPPING RIVAL MEMBERS AND SO ON? WE DONT HAVE TO f**kING KILL EACH OTHER EVERY f**kING DAY DO WE?
I have really got to agree with that. That sounds alot more fun than what is happening atm.
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Grenade :<
No. Molotovs, to do what Aksel said. :<
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CAN'T MAFIAS JUST HAVE NORMAL ROLEPLAY TOGETHER? BURN DOWN BUSINESSES, WRECK THEIR CARS, KIDNAPPING RIVAL MEMBERS AND SO ON? WE DONT HAVE TO f**kING KILL EACH OTHER EVERY f**kING DAY DO WE?
+11
In addition to that post, why do you guys always use most powerful guns to every situation? I understand a shoot-out or something, but wouldn't baseball bats or the simple shotgun be enough when robbing a taxi?
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+11
In addition to that post, why do you guys always use most powerful guns to every situation? I understand a shoot-out or something, but wouldn't baseball bats or the simple shotgun be enough when robbing a taxi?
I carry silenced 9mm, pump shotgun and maybe an AK47 for serious situations, and I usually get killed by someone with a combat. :(
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You have until January 1 to decide.
1. Validation system will be stopped, which means that if you kill ANY other gang member without RP, or if there is ANY kind of mass shootout, the group will be immediately warned and the second time closed.
2. You guys learn to follow the rules of the system you wanted in order to be able to hold a shootout.
Even in D-movies gangs are more creative as just killing, kidnapping and shooting each other...
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If nobody has any objections or better ideas, I'm resetting validations for 2010, and we'll keep the system then.
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You have until January 1 to decide.
1. Validation system will be stopped, which means that if you kill ANY other gang member without RP, or if there is ANY kind of mass shootout, the group will be immediately warned and the second time closed.
2. You guys learn to follow the rules of the system you wanted in order to be able to hold a shootout.
Even in D-movies gangs are more creative as just killing, kidnapping and shooting each other...
Seems great, just remove the validation, it was nothing but a mess.
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Seems great, just remove the validation, it was nothing but a mess.
Any mess created is considerably better than Gandalf's 1st listed possibility.
I will not go back to that again. We've come too far to be pushed back entirely, we can recover from recent events, slowly, but we need to kep any existing systems in place.
On another note, we need a bloody automatic system.
The ability to have criminal group conflicts should not rest on my shoulders.
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I do not support to closing the whole system, becuase then any group war will get you in trouble..
I think we need to reset the validation system and create more restrictions, like the group leader need to be in the gang war that is taking place, if leader is not present in the war, other group can take pics and post here, which will give group an official warning.
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I agree with the idea of more restrictions but I don't like the example you gave.
Araatus technically has 5 leaders at the highest rank, where does the limit fall?
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I agree with the idea of more restrictions but I don't like the example you gave.
Araatus technically has 5 leaders at the highest rank, where does the limit fall?
Choice 1-2 people from group that can lead a gang war.
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Instead of just random gangwars, allow us to arrange a war from both sides.
That way, no moaning, right?
Post the time / place
Conditions
people involved ect.
It would work better.
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Admin should spectate on place all gang wars.
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I do not want gangwars to be arranged at a time and place or to have to involve admins.
How about dated validations?
You may validate for a week only, for example.
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Just a mutual agreement by the leaders of what the gangwar will involve would be enough for me.
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I do not want gangwars to be arranged at a time and place or to have to involve admins.
How about dated validations?
You may validate for a week only, for example.
My idea from the start, supported.
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Admin should spectate on place all gang wars.
This has been proven as worst option many time.
I do not want gangwars to be arranged at a time and place or to have to involve admins.
How about dated validations?
You may validate for a week only, for example.
1)When some group have a really good reason to attack other group ( like drug market control, business issues, control over town ) they should put a dated validations that would last a week or two.
2) Not a single attack can be done, without the Main Leaders of both group are online.
3) Before one group attack other, they should "provoke" them in role play enough, driving around there HQ, calling them etc.- This should not be abused, like calling someone then shoting him 4 seconds after the phone, at least 10 min would need to pass from the provoking to the war.
4) Kidnaping, robing, or any other type of Role play with a member of rival group, should not turn in to war. If he decided to take his chances and just run or shot at you, you can easy expect to be attacked by his fellow members, in order to save him and retaliate.
5) More suggestions or comments would be nice from all of you, since everybody is just talking about problems, and no one is suggestion the solution.
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People should learn to RP.
All the "leading" families just kill kill kill to keep a feared reputation.
Mafia's IRL don't have stupidly massive shootouts in the middle of a public area
just to prove they are the best.
Criminal groups keep to themselves to get money, and if another family
interferes they take care of it.
All this shootout shit really isn't needed, especially not so frequently..
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The most funny part is that most of the mafias (which are obviously gangs, but call themselves mafias) participate in these gang wars. Only the Corleones and the Koltsovi were wise enough not to participate in this?
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This has been proven as worst option many time.1)When some group have a really good reason to attack other group ( like drug market control, business issues, control over town ) they should put a dated validations that would last a week or two.
2) Not a single attack can be done, without the Main Leaders of both group are online.
3) Before one group attack other, they should "provoke" them in role play enough, driving around there HQ, calling them etc.- This should not be abused, like calling someone then shoting him 4 seconds after the phone, at least 10 min would need to pass from the provoking to the war.
4) Kidnaping, robing, or any other type of Role play with a member of rival group, should not turn in to war. If he decided to take his chances and just run or shot at you, you can easy expect to be attacked by his fellow members, in order to save him and retaliate.
5) More suggestions or comments would be nice from all of you, since everybody is just talking about problems, and no one is suggestion the solution.
Supported
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Admin should spectate on place all gang wars.
This didn't work out that great before this system was implemented and no less than six gang moderators were added to the admin team in an experiment to sort out the groups which rulebroke a lot by giving the group leaders more responsibility on the server.
If you were to go ingame at any time past 02:00 CET you would realise that there aren't enough admins to do admin work such as watching hackers, helping new players, giving passport tests, reading reports and you will notice that for reasonably lengthy periods of times, there are no admins online, which leads to even the usually well behaving players rulebreaking with no regards as to what would happen if logs were being checked, or if there was an undercover admin online.
If what you say becomes reality then there will be two possible outcomes. There will be no any gangwars, resulting in moan or one or two admins will spectate a gangwar which will lead to more moan on main chat because there aren't enough admins to cover the whole server at that moment - the gangwar spectating responsibility will only put more pressure on the admin team.
The most funny part is that most of the mafias (which are obviously gangs, but call themselves mafias) participate in these gang wars. Only the Corleones and the Koltsovi were wise enough not to participate in this?
Kolstovi had all their validations removed because Gandalf saw them shooting at people because they wore a certain tag.
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im not actually reading anything, just scanning, but whats going on, i only read gandalfs post, it seems your all not following the rules?
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Kolstovi had all their validations removed because Gandalf saw them shooting at people because they wore a certain tag.
It was a favour then.
If people can't realise that a purpose of a Mafia is not only to "kill kill kill", then what's the point in having/being in one?
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It was a favour then.
If people can't realise that a purpose of a Mafia is not only to "kill kill kill", then what's the point in having/being in one?
+1
It is very odd but at times, instead of physically killing other gang members, either settle it as a streetrace or something, but it is kinda odd for a mafia member lolz.
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It was a favour then.
If people can't realise that a purpose of a Mafia is not only to "kill kill kill", then what's the point in having/being in one?
It may be because at the moment you can't kidnap someone, heck, even role play in a way that will have a negative role play effect on a charachter of a rival faction member without having a gangwar validation. There are three types of criminal groups on the server: a death matching one, an excessively money orientated one and a role playing one.
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The most funny part is that most of the mafias (which are obviously gangs, but call themselves mafias) participate in these gang wars. Only the Corleones and the Koltsovi were wise enough not to participate in this?
Ancelotti don't use validations either.
We don't need to have wars with other groups to prove ourselves.
Read the Araatus topic, that'll show where we stand on the subject of gangwars between Organised families.
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Ancelotti don't use validations either.
We don't need to have wars with other groups to prove ourselves.
Read the Araatus topic, that'll show where we stand on the subject of gangwars between Organised families.
The pictures that I've posted are nothing but a mistake, if you didin't realise I have the lowerest rank in Araatus, so basicly you can't make a judgement when seeing my pictures.
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Plans for a new system are being drawn up, I'll discuss them with certain people if I see them.
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The pictures that I've posted are nothing but a mistake, if you didin't realise I have the lowerest rank in Araatus, so basicly you can't make a judgement when seeing my pictures.
Then perhaps you should show respect to opposing groups, no?
You're lucky Gandalf only issued a warn, but now it is all water under the bridge.
So don't bother us, and we will not bother you. Any attacks whatsoever/provoking whatsoever
will be documented and reported, and Panda I hope the new validation system is more succesfull than this one.
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Then perhaps you should show respect to opposing groups, no?
You're lucky Gandalf only issued a warn, but now it is all water under the bridge.
So don't bother us, and we will not bother you. Any attacks whatsoever/provoking whatsoever
will be documented and reported, and Panda I hope the new validation system is more succesfull than this one.
Consider it done.
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Group Name: Grove Street Families
Group Leader(s): Lance Wilson, Clifton Wilson
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang, also adding validation.
Validations Listed: Los Santos Kings Gang.
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As i probably posted this before,
it dosent always have to be killing/kidnapping and physical violence.
it may seem odd for some groups, but why dont you sort it out as a Streetrace, it is actually more intresting instead of your teammates getting killed, also cops chasing you etc..
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Maybe allowed if,
- The Leader (The big boss), and at least 5 members of the group are present. (Both sides)
- Once a war is finished, the next one should be after at least 7 days.
- Preferly with the presence of an admin, that would be it.
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I've only an hour left online before I theoretically can't do anything with this.
As of midnight CET tonight, consider all validations wiped. The same system is in place until we find an alternative.
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If people can't realise that a purpose of a Mafia is not only to "kill kill kill", then what's the point in having/being in one?
We do not only "kill kill kill", that is an incorrect statement.
However, as Violet said, much of the criminal RP leads to shootouts, either with the people you RP with or the ARPD, which only purpose is just that, "kill kill kill".
In addition to that, I would like to ask;
Who do you think is responsible for most of the DM on the server?
ARPD or the Mafias/Gangs?
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Who do you think is responsible for most of the DM on the server?
ARPD or the Mafias/Gangs?
QFT.
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I'd say ARPD, but i'm a born & bred criminal.. never been anything else.
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I have been and still am both.
I was actually a cop first, and people associated me with being "Officer Panda", and I was never, ever wanted.
If I want to kill with loads of guns without being punished or flamed, I will go as a cop, as they are allowed to shoot around as long as the target is an "orange gentlemen".
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I have been and still am both.
I was actually a cop first, and people associated me with being "Officer Panda", and I was never, ever wanted.
If I want to kill with loads of guns without being punished or flamed, I will go as a cop, as they are allowed to shoot around as long as the target is an "orange gentlemen".
Well, I guess we both have the same opinion.
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Same here...
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Then I don't see the point in leaving it any further, we really should have one more test-run.
I reckon this time it will result very differently.
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We do not only "kill kill kill", that is an incorrect statement.
Who we? I was talking about Mafias there, not gangs.
In addition to that, I would like to ask;
Who do you think is responsible for most of the DM on the server?
ARPD or the Mafias/Gangs?
50/50
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So if a Mafia all gets wanted with loads of guns, it is the fault of ARPD.
Good thinking.
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So if a Mafia all gets wanted with loads of guns, it is the fault of ARPD.
Good thinking.
The argument is that the only exception made to the "No TDM" rule, excluding the (compromising at best) gangwar system, is the orange vs. blue team fight. Only the blues may attack anyway.
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So if a Mafia all gets wanted with loads of guns, it is the fault of ARPD.
Good thinking.
If the criminals out-do the ARPD, even when the ARPD has armour spawning/weapon spawning on there side, with several
OTHER benefits, then it is due to lack of organisation and teamwork.
There is no reason that the ARPD could not take out criminal groups with the no-return rule.
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If the criminals out-do the ARPD, even when the ARPD has armour spawning/weapon spawning on there side, with several
OTHER benefits, then it is due to lack of organisation and teamwork.
There is no reason that the ARPD could not take out criminal groups with the no-return rule.
Yes there simply is.. Including the fact that the ARPD consists of freecops and other players who may not be the best shooters as well as that usually there's not that many more cops than criminals when it comes to big shootouts it could easily happen...
On another note ever since last night I am now a supporter of the "cops cannot return" rule and hope to see it implemented soon. Just do not start complaining when the ARPD starts learning how to shoot with full armour and weapons as well...
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Not every criminal is amazing at shooting, Vince.
You may not believe it, but in the criminal world
there are certain levels of criminals.
The lower levels are the equivelant of Freecops, and there sure
are alot of them.
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Just do not start complaining when the ARPD starts learning how to shoot with full armour and weapons as well...
Bring it :<.
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Who we? I was talking about Mafias there, not gangs.
Well, if Corleone isn't considered a mafia, then there are no mafias on the server, so you have no point.
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Well, if Corleone isn't considered a mafia, then there are no mafias on the server, so you have no point.
What's so special about it? That it was around for ~3 years? Even if this was a "1940-1970" role-play server, it wouldn't be decent. If you think it acts like a Mafia, then do a research for yourself. (That doesn't include watching "The Godfather" or "The Sopranos", by the way.)
Last time I checked, the group which was the most close one to the image of a Mafia was the Lanzetti family. Feel free to correct me, if you think I am wrong.
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What's so special about it? That it was around for ~3 years? Even if this was a "1940-1970" role-play server, it wouldn't be decent. If you think it acts like a Mafia, then do a research for yourself. (That doesn't include watching "The Godfather" or "The Sopranos", by the way.)
I have got a book called "Gomorra", which pictures the image of the Cosa Nostra, so I know perfectly well what a mafia is and what a mafia does.
I know that Corleone isn't alike what a mafia is in the real world, but on the other hand, the other mafias on the server isn't any better, so as I said, if Corleone isn't a mafia, then there are no mafias on the server.
Last time I checked, the group which was the most close one to the image of a Mafia was the Lanzetti family. Feel free to correct me, if you think I am wrong.
The Lanzetti family is a great Roleplaying faction, but there is nothing about Lanzetti that is more alike the image of an real world mafia than what Corleone is. If you think they are, you obviously don't know anything about mafias, so maybe you should do some research yourself before you start pointing fingers.
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I have got a book called "Gomorra", which pictures the image of the Cosa Nostra, so I know perfectly well what a mafia is and what a mafia does.
Good to know.
I know that Corleone isn't alike what a mafia is in the real world, but on the other hand, the other mafias on the server isn't any better, so as I said, if Corleone isn't a mafia, then there are no mafias on the server.
I have to agree, there are no Mafias on the server. I never said there were any.
The Lanzetti family is a great Roleplaying faction, but there is nothing about Lanzetti that is more alike the image of an real world mafia than what Corleone is. If you think they are, you obviously don't know anything about mafias, so maybe you should do some research yourself before you start pointing fingers.
You are mistaken. There actually severe differences. However, I will not continue this discussion as doing so will probably offend most of the local, so-called "mobsters".
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I have to agree, there are no Mafias on the server. I never said there were any.
If people can't realise that a purpose of a Mafia is not only to "kill kill kill", then what's the point in having/being in one?
Then why did you say that?
You are mistaken. There actually severe differences. However, I will not continue this discussion as doing so will probably offend most of the local, so-called "mobsters".
Please continue, those who can't have a normal discussion without getting pissed off is not worth discussing with.
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Then why did you say that?
It was a question, I got my answer. Enough said.
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The argument is that the only exception made to the "No TDM" rule, excluding the (compromising at best) gangwar system, is the orange vs. blue team fight. Only the blues may attack anyway.
Orange vs blue is not supposed to be a TDM fight.
Perhaps I should think up a system where only two or three members of a mafia can get a wanted status. All others will then be tempbanned if killing an officer. :devroll:
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Orange vs blue is not supposed to be a TDM fight.
Perhaps I should think up a system where only two or three members of a mafia can get a wanted status. All others will then be tempbanned if killing an officer. :devroll:
And tempban anyone lower than FBI Director or SAPD Chief for killing a suspect? :lol:
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Orange vs blue is not supposed to be a TDM fight.
But the way the server is structured it is.
One mafia member will usually get the rest of the mafia involved and once suspected frankly escaping is just not worth the time.
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pandaidkwututalkinboutcopsdosomesrsrpwi tcriminals,likelolwut@tdm
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pandaidkwututalkinboutcopsdosomesrsrpwitcriminals,likelolwut@tdm
congrats u are now part of the kool kids klub ;)
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pandaidkwututalkinboutcopsdosomesrsrpwitcriminals,likelolwut@tdm
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congrats u are now part of the kool kids klub ;)
the kkk?
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Group Name: The Ancelotti Family
Group Leader(s): Romeo, Andros.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding.
Validations Listed: Stracci.
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But the way the server is structured it is.
One mafia member will usually get the rest of the mafia involved and once suspected frankly escaping is just not worth the time.
That is lack of RP from the mafia side, do not blame the ARPD.
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Why is everything removed from the 1st page ? :trust:
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lol dude! I have another version, silence is golden, but shouting is fun
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So if a Mafia all gets wanted with loads of guns, it is the fault of ARPD.
Good thinking.
Here's an example:
Criminals gather up, buy weapons and kidnap a civilian or a cop. They get him to a hideout then call the cops and ask for a randsome.
The ARPD reads the message, use /area and then they assamble a team infront of the building.
- What the ARPD is supposed to do: Call the kidnappers again, they negociate for a understandable randsome, and they discuss about the hostage safety. They ensure the hostages will be safe whatever it takes.
- What the ARPD actually do: Wait infront of the building for like 10-15 minutes waiting for more ARPD cops, freecops, FBI that will come by hearing the radio transmission. Sometimes, the FBI calls the kidnappers to stall a little, and ask to go in there and ensure the hosatges are safe bla bla bla... And then everyone /enter and storm in, they shoot their way in without caring that the hostages will be killed or not. The criminals shoot back normally, most of the cops gets killed. But lucky for them they /spawnreset'd infront of the building and there they will find the guy who /weaponequips inside a SWAT van. They go back in, "boom, boom", all the orangemans are down, mission accomplished, returning home and waiting for another 207.
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Here's an example:
Criminals gather up, buy weapons and kidnap a civilian or a cop. They get him to a hideout then call the cops and ask for a randsome.
The ARPD reads the message, use /area and then they assamble a team infront of the building.
- What the ARPD is supposed to do: Call the kidnappers again, they negociate for a understandable randsome, and they discuss about the hostage safety. They ensure the hostages will be safe whatever it takes.
- What the ARPD actually do: Wait infront of the building for like 10-15 minutes waiting for more ARPD cops, freecops, FBI that will come by hearing the radio transmission. Sometimes, the FBI calls the kidnappers to stall a little, and ask to go in there and ensure the hosatges are safe bla bla bla... And then everyone /enter and storm in, they shoot their way in without caring that the hostages will be killed or not. The criminals shoot back normally, most of the cops gets killed. But lucky for them they /spawnreset'd infront of the building and there they will find the guy who /weaponequips inside a SWAT van. They go back in, "boom, boom", all the orangemans are down, mission accomplished, returning home and waiting for another 207.
That's what happens when you aren't using /call 100 with a building with a disguised name.
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Here's an example:
Criminals gather up, buy weapons and kidnap a civilian or a cop. They get him to a hideout then call the cops and ask for a randsome.
The ARPD reads the message, use /area and then they assamble a team infront of the building.
- What the ARPD is supposed to do: Call the kidnappers again, they negociate for a understandable randsome, and they discuss about the hostage safety. They ensure the hostages will be safe whatever it takes.
- What the ARPD actually do: Wait infront of the building for like 10-15 minutes waiting for more ARPD cops, freecops, FBI that will come by hearing the radio transmission. Sometimes, the FBI calls the kidnappers to stall a little, and ask to go in there and ensure the hosatges are safe bla bla bla... And then everyone /enter and storm in, they shoot their way in without caring that the hostages will be killed or not. The criminals shoot back normally, most of the cops gets killed. But lucky for them they /spawnreset'd infront of the building and there they will find the guy who /weaponequips inside a SWAT van. They go back in, "boom, boom", all the orangemans are down, mission accomplished, returning home and waiting for another 207.
Could you please inform me why you would call the cops if you have a hostage ? That is like advertising you are breaking in to a house.
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Could you please inform me why you would call the cops if you have a hostage ? That is like advertising you are breaking in to a house.
To get cash ?
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If I had a hostage I would probably execute him in some way, shape or form. However if one were to do this one would probably get warned for DM'ing.
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FBI are dirty (Not flame, metaphor). I took part in kidnapping and they walk in and killed everything -.- . THEY even killed the hostage. It was extremely lame. SWAT is great to do that role play with honestly. Vince is real good about it. I was hostage and i nvr got harmed and they even disarmed the bomb.
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I was under the impression that the reason the FBI GO to the hostage situation is to get the hostage, not kill the hostage and everyone else inside.
That's DMing, if they don't want to rescue the hostage, why do they go?
like 7/10 of hostage situations result in the FBI suspecting&killing the hostage.
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I was under the impression that the reason the FBI GO to the hostage situation is to get the hostage, not kill the hostage and everyone else inside.
That's DMing, if they don't want to rescue the hostage, why do they go?
like 7/10 of hostage situations result in the FBI suspecting&killing the hostage.
9/10
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like 7/10 of hostage situations result in the FBI suspecting&killing the hostage.
True except for one thing..
.. sometimes the hostage doesn't get suspected.
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I doubt this topic is about how SAPD, FBI, SWAT or any other cop is dealing with Hostage situations..
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Group Name: Spetsnaz Mafia
Group Leader(s): Charlie_Spetsnaz
New Gang or Adding Validations?: new gang listed
Validations Listed: Ancelotti
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Group Name: Spetsnaz Mafia
Group Leader(s): Charlie_Spetsnaz
New Gang or Adding Validations?: new gang listed
Validations Listed: Ancelotti
Lol i'm not accepting that, I won't let you idiots Dm my group without a valid reason.
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I won't let you idiots Dm my group without a valid reason.
Stop with insulting..
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Group Name: Calton G's
Group Leader(s): Damjan_Barety,Vule_Despotovic
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang and adding validations
Validations Listed: LV Mafia
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Group Name: Calton G's
Group Leader(s): Damjan_Barety,Vule_Despotovic
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang and adding validations
Validations Listed: LV Mafia
ha ha ha ha u dont have any deal with LV mafia so get lost
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Keep in mind people, your two groups cannot engage in a war unless both of you have validations for each other.
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ha ha ha ha u dont have any deal with LV mafia so get lost
lollll :D :D
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Group Name: Los Diablos Gang
Group Leader(s): Nico Diablos, Pablo Diablos, Diego Diablos, Eduardo Diablos, Vito Diablos.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: Grove street.
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Group Name: Los Diablos Gang
Group Leader(s): Nico Diablos, Pablo Diablos, Diego Diablos, Eduardo Diablos, Vito Diablos.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed: Grove street.
Reason? I'll talk to guys if they wants it or not hold on.
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ha ha ha ha u dont have any deal with LV mafia so get lost
We dont?
Blindix_LV: GO HOME BITCHEEES HAHAAAA
*Blindix is dead
*blindix respawns
Blindix_LV: BITCHEES SUCK MY DIIIIIICK
*Blindix respawns
Blindix_LV: HAHAHAHAHAHAH BITCHES
*Vule and the gang leaves
Post Merge: January 17, 2010, 12:01:37 pm
Group Name: Calton G's
Group Leader(s): Vule_Despotovic,Damjan_Barety
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Kilo Tray balla'
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Reason? I'll talk to guys if they wants it or not hold on.
I thought the reason was obvious. :roll:
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Reason? I'll talk to guys if they wants it or not hold on.
Are you seriously asking for a reason!?
well here you got your reason.. constant attacking Los Diablos members.
Both gangs have been attacking eachother for a week or so. ;)
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We dont?
Blindix_LV: GO HOME bad guyEEES HAHAAAA
*Blindix is dead
*blindix respawns
Blindix_LV: bad guyEES SUCK MY DIIIIIICK
*Blindix respawns
Blindix_LV: HAHAHAHAHAHAH bad guyES
*Vule and the gang leaves
Post Merge: January 17, 2010, 12:01:37 pm
Group Name: Calton G's
Group Leader(s): Vule_Despotovic,Damjan_Barety
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Kilo Tray balla'
i dont remember i say it i say just biches
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Stop with insulting..
You know what's insulting? When they call our group inexperienced and then DM us without proper validation.
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Group Name: Calton G's
Group Leader(s): Vule_Despotovic, Damjan_Barety
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Lombardi
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b]Group Name:[/b]Lombardi
Group Leader(s):Hamid,Ari
New Gang or Adding Validations?:New Gang
Validations Listed:Calton G's
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As you came back twice after death yesterday Payne, and your friend got killed multiple times and still came back and tried to carkill. So be aware of the rules if you want to put a validation against us. But we're happy to accept it, trust me on that.
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Group Name: Calton G's
Group Leader(s): Damjan_Barety,Vule_Despotovic
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang and adding validations
Validations Listed: LV Mafia
Deamn right, lets crank up some bullets :skull:
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Deamn right, lets crank up some bullets :skull:
Rofl
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Group Name: The Vercetti Family
Group Leader(s):Leader: Marcus_Vercetti |Co-Leaders: Diplo_Vercetti, Jack_Vercetti
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang.
Validations Listed:The LV Mafia
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Group Name: The Vercetti Family
Group Leader(s):Leader: Marcus_Vercetti |Co-Leaders: Diplo_Vercetti, Jack_Vercetti
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang.
Validations Listed:The LV Mafia
u lose to day u killed u one by one with combat shot gun i was just one man vs 3
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u lose to day u killed u one by one with combat shot gun i was just one man vs 3
without validation, you mean i killed you? :trust:
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without validation, you mean i killed you? :trust:
to day u just die and diplo ,zack not me
again u lieing
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to day u just die and diplo ,zack not me
again u lieing
Please Stick To Topic.
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Group Name: The Cabron Mob
Group Leader(s):Leader: [NP]Duel_Cabron
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang.
Validations Listed:The Costello
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Group Name: The Cabron Mob
Group Leader(s):Leader: [NP]Duel_Cabron
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang.
Validations Listed:The Costello
Ignore that....
Group Name: The Cabron Mob
Group Leader(s): [NP]Duel_Cabron,[NP]Joosty_Cabron , Right Heand Boss:Animalux_Cabron,Yuzuki_Cabron,Xiress_Cabron
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed: The Costello , Gvardia , LV mafia , Stracci
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Ignore that....
Group Name: The Cabron Mob
Group Leader(s): [NP]Duel_Cabron,[NP]Joosty_Cabron , Right Heand Boss:Animalux_Cabron,Yuzuki_Cabron,Xiress_Cabron
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed: The Costello , Gvardia , LV mafia , Stracci
lol ok.
Group Name: Gvardia Family
Group Leader(s): Cofiliano Gvardia, Eugene Gvardia, Hell Gvardia, Killar Gvardia, MadBoi Gvardia
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Cabrons
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Group Name: The Cabron Mob
Group Leader(s): [NP]Duel_Cabron,[NP]Joosty_Cabron , Right Heand Boss:Animalux_Cabron,Yuzuki_Cabron,Xiress_Cabron
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New Gang
Validations Listed: The Costello , Gvardia , LV mafia , Stracci
No wai, jog on.
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No wai, jog on.
are ya scary? :devroll: :war: :m4:
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Yes I am scary but I guess you meant scared? Anyway I'm not letting a DM group ruin my mens fun, simple. You show me you can RP and I'll reconsider.
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Yes I am scary but I guess you meant scared? Anyway I'm not letting a DM group ruin my mens fun, simple. You show me you can RP and I'll reconsider.
are ya sure i can do RP ?? :rofl: ask any one :P i do just RP
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RP with us IC and we'll see that.
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Group Name:gvardia
Group Leader(s):cofi, eug, hell, killar
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed:marquese
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The Cabron Is Off... Carson is Off to...
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Group Name:gvardia
Group Leader(s):cofi, eug, hell, killar
New Gang or Adding Validations?: adding
Validations Listed:marquese
its not marquese
Group Name:Marques
Group Leader(s):Payne,Vinny
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed:Gvardo
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its not marquese
Group Name:Marques
Group Leader(s):Payne,Vinny
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed:Gvardia
he probablly doesnt care if it's spelled marguz
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Group Name: Los Diablos Gang.
Group Leader(s): Pablo Santos, Diego Prada, Aurelio Valdez, Eduardo Ramos, Nico Casas.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Marqus and Ancelotti.
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Group Name: Los Diablos Gang.
Group Leader(s): Pablo Santos, Diego Prada, Aurelio Valdez, Eduardo Ramos, Nico Casas.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Marqus and Ancelotti.
Why us?
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Why us?
You help our enemies, marques. : ))
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Group Name: Los Diablos Gang.
Group Leader(s): Pablo Santos, Diego Prada, Aurelio Valdez, Eduardo Ramos, Nico Casas.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding
Validations Listed: Marqus and Ancelotti.
and what we did to diablos ?hum ?
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and what we did to diablos ?hum ?
everything, and i want to test out your RP skills, and i hope they improved unlike last time.
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everything, and i want to test out your RP skills, and i hope they improved unlike last time.
everything ? thats not an answer of a leader : D
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Why us?
They don't believe in 'Neutrality' i learned that one from Gvardia :) . Also Nesquick good luck..not being a jerk i mean it. Keep up the Roleplay and don't let cocky groups make you look bad. Because i can gurantee that one will use the "We have Validation.." bs, where they do not need to role play to dm one of your members. Have Fun everyone.
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They don't believe in 'Neutrality' i learned that one from Gvardia :) . Also Nesquick good luck..not being a jerk i mean it. Keep up the Roleplay and don't let cocky groups make you look bad. Because i can gurantee that one will use the "We have Validation.." bs, where they do not need to role play to dm one of your members. Have Fun everyone.
Look up on diablos topic or 174 or 173 what i said about this, then speak. Allright? Tuff' guy.
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Look up on diablos topic or 174 or 173 what i said about this, then speak. Allright? Tuff' guy.
How about pm a direct link. Im too lazy to look for it. Your a funny kid i cant wait to gun you down :) . I honestly recommend you wear armour and have 4+ guys with you and have m4/combat(rp it , dont pull it outta ur ass). If not your dead.
Happy RP...
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How about pm a direct link. Im too lazy to look for it. Your a funny kid i cant wait to gun you down :) . I honestly recommend you wear armour and have 4+ guys with you and have m4/combat(rp it , dont pull it outta ur ass). If not your dead.
Happy RP...
You are seriously pissing me off, Bring it on.
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You are seriously pissing me off, Bring it on.
Im pissing you off and you flame me ig LOL. Shows your maturity level, itll be interesting to see how immature you act when you die. Im pissing you off, Your making me laugh.
Also since you act like that in game, i cant imagine how you get on the forums. So lets just let the forum stuff go and do it in game.
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Im pissing you off and you flame me ig LOL. Shows your maturity level, itll be interesting to see how immature you act when you die. Im pissing you off, Your making me laugh.
Also since you act like that in game, i cant imagine how you get on the forums. So lets just let the forum stuff go and do it in game.
lol, let him xander, he is a kiddo , i dont give him importance, and you should do the the same :D
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Yea thats why im done with the crap like that on the forums with him. I just wanna have some good roleplay and non-dm shootouts.
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Reporting Stracci for DMing (attacking without validation)
after we had fight with marquese, here comes stracci helping and atacking gvardia without validation.
i always send in reports to [email protected] but i never get answers so im guessing that no one cares about those reports anymore, thats why i am posting here.
also reporting marquese group for returning after death, we killed all marquese, there was only Payne and Iower left, then the whole crew comes again and starts the shooting.
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List of all the people who DMed (returned after death/attacked without validation):
Frank_Marques
Tito_Stracci
Animalux_Marques
Giorgio_Stracci
<probably more>
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k, send that shit to me next time, i'll deal with it. This validation stuff is shit anyway, just let us kill who we want and if someone moans then they shouldn't be in a mafia.
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k, send that shit to me next time, i'll deal with it. This validation stuff is shit anyway, just let us kill who we want and if someone moans then they shouldn't be in a mafia.
and get banned for breaking the server rules.
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Eugene you really FAIL here.We didn't fire any bullet on you, we just come to see you dead. Coz You scamed Mario_Stracci in his casino for 50k+Gvardias kill him more then one.
Soo..we didn't shoot=no DM. ;)
I knew that you make this because that I told to not shoot at you.
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k, send that shit to me next time, i'll deal with it. This validation stuff is shit anyway, just let us kill who we want and if someone moans then they shouldn't be in a mafia.
Actually i go by that rule aswell. If you cannot deal with gang life, then you don't deserve to be in one. There is always a mature way to resolve conflicts like moaning.
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Eugene you really FAIL here.We didn't fire any bullet on you, we just come to see you dead. Coz You scamed Mario_Stracci in his casino for 50k+Gvardias kill him more then one.
Soo..we didn't shoot=no DM. ;)
I knew that you make this because that I told to not shoot at you.
lie.
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Reporting Stracci for DMing (attacking without validation)
after we had fight with marquese, here comes stracci helping and atacking gvardia without validation.
i always send in reports to [email protected] but i never get answers so im guessing that no one cares about those reports anymore, thats why i am posting here.
also reporting marquese group for returning after death, we killed all marquese, there was only Payne and Iower left, then the whole crew comes again and starts the shooting.
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List of all the people who DMed (returned after death/attacked without validation):
Frank_Marques
Tito_Stracci
Animalux_Marques
Giorgio_Stracci
<probably more>
1st - We were chsing never shooted, when you stoped at highway and saw Vinny in our car you shoot our car so you started.
2nd - yesterday you Shooted Mario_Stracci just for went in your casino can you explain why ?
3rd - long time ago one Gvardia told me that " if you're with an allie and they got attacked you can defend. One of us was with Marques when you guys attacked.
4th - did you posted this after /q abuse when marques were shooting you in those pics ?
If i remember more ill update this post.
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1st - We were chsing never shooted, ........................
Bullshit, you can even see on the pic that Tito was running after me, and i do remember he was shooting at me, and even did do damage.
2nd - yesterday you Shooted Mario_Stracci just for went in your casino can you explain why ?
I dont have to explain, but i will since im a nice guy; right as i opened casino i told him that he is not allowed inside casino, so we warned him, he didnt leave, i shot a warning shot, so he left. then 10 mins later he comes with bunch of marqueses and enters casino and starts shooting at my guards, so we kill them all. then 15mins later comes more marqueses and few straccis (again attacking without validation), and start shooting at us again, we kill them all too.
3rd - long time ago one Gvardia told me that " if you're with an allie and they got attacked you can defend. One of us was with Marques when you guys attacked.
look at those pics, and tell me if it is attacking or defending.
4th - did you posted this after /q abuse when marques were shooting you in those pics ?
yes, im not getting killed by some DMers, btw u guys own me 2k for armour.
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lie.
Not lie.That was all truth..
But you can continue with moan and lies..
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Not lie.That was all truth..
But you can continue with moan and lies..
if you dont know the differents between moan and a report, then you got some issues.
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if you dont know the differents between moan and a report, then you got some issues.
You moan with lies..
Eugene you really FAIL here.We didn't fire any bullet on you, we just come to see you dead. Coz You scamed Mario_Stracci in his casino for 50k+Gvardias kill him more then one.
Soo..we didn't shoot=no DM. ;)
I knew that you make this because that I told to not shoot at you.
every word is true..
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If you don't want to get killed every now and again then I suggest you stop RP'ing a criminal/underworld member. You don't hear me bullshiting every time a Gvardia or any other mafia comes and kills me. After all, since when do mafias do all this lovey dovey shit with no fucking killing?
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yes, im not getting killed by some DMers, btw u guys own me 2k for armour.
btw you own 50k to mario due a scamm, nice casino you have shoot costumers and scamm them.
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Mr. Iujica , did you remember of you abuse ? Frankie putted you Sus, Frankie jailed you, and next you tried to kill me inside the jail ?? And you /q abuse ? its cool too, Get some balls, grow up and dont moan
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If you don't want to get killed every now and again then I suggest you stop RP'ing a criminal/underworld member. You don't hear me bullshiting every time a Gvardia or any other mafia comes and kills me. After all, since when do mafias do all this lovey dovey shit with no f**king killing?
lets get one things straight.
so between stracci and gvardia, no validation needed to have fights, is that correct?
btw you own 50k to mario due a scamm, nice casino you have shoot costumers and scamm them.
for the 6th time, sue me!
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Lol Eug. How many people are needed to kill you :trust: . Call me up ingame if sht like this is going down.
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lets get one things straight.
We didnt shoot at you.
If we did that was coz you scamed Mario and that is RP reason to kill you.That is not DM..
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We didnt shoot at you.
If we did that was coz you scamed Mario and that is RP reason to kill you.That is not DM..
if you guys came there to kill me becuase of that mario at his casino incident 1 week ago, then that wouldnt realy work for RP reason because stracci crew already tryed taking me out for that like twice after it already, and i killed all you. so i dont see how that would realy fit into a RP reason anymore.
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if you guys came there to kill me becuase of that mario at his casino incident 1 week ago, then that wouldnt realy work for RP reason because stracci crew already tryed taking me out for that like twice after it already, and i killed all you. so i dont see how that would realy fit into a RP reason anymore.
Ok.Rambo. You never killed me..
one more time only for you..we didn't shoot at you.
Now drop that bullshit.
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If you don't want to get killed every now and again then I suggest you stop RP'ing a criminal/underworld member. You don't hear me bullshiting every time a Gvardia or any other mafia comes and kills me. After all, since when do mafias do all this lovey dovey shit with no f**king killing?
Don't you even start talking about that ,after canceling validation cause you couldn't "handle " the wars.
You're being totally hypocrite and controversial. Decide already what you want, and not changing your f**king opinion ( as a group) every 2 weeks.
We didnt shoot at you.
If we did that was coz you scamed Mario and that is RP reason to kill you.That is not DM..
You just said you didn't shot him and that you did shot him in the same sentence. Go and lie to someone else. For the "RP reasons to kill" you got court, go and make a f**king court case, cause you can't do shit without validaitons as quoted from Gandalf, Jasno ? cao.
1st - We were chsing never shooted, when you stoped at highway and saw Vinny in our car you shoot our car so you started.
So you chased him to say Hi ? Together with Marques who were shoting at him ? Stop bullshiting Raf.
2nd - yesterday you Shooted Mario_Stracci just for went in your casino can you explain why ?
So now you asked why ? You should ask before you start a war, not after.
3rd - long time ago one Gvardia told me that " if you're with an allie and they got attacked you can defend. One of us was with Marques when you guys attacked.
You can ONLY help your alieds if they are under attack, as the pictures prove, you were helping them in an attack, which is Deathmatching and rule breaking.
4th - did you posted this after /q abuse when marques were shooting you in those pics ?
If i remember more ill update this post.
And today i went to Whetstone to see whats up and when i parked my car, your boys were close by with Marques on a meeting or some. I went out of the car and was just chilling with an animation on ( /smoke) , all of a suden your members Mario and Tino starts shoting out of no where, without saying a word or anything ( altough i was more then far from them) , and Marques who joined into .
While i was eating and watching that, it just went trough my head : " So thats Stracci srs roleplaying skills that they try to force so much. "
You gentlmans get your facts straight, either put validations back, or back and f**k off from us.
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Stracci, do you really want war time with Gvardia now or just being babies like always? Like my Don said, make a choice, either accept a vaildation or STOP attacking us, this looking to be a war, better get it right here on forums before in game.
:ps: Good luck trying to defeat The Gvardia Empire, we too good.
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You just said you didn't shot him and that you did shot him in the same sentence. Go and lie to someone else. For the "RP reasons to kill" you got court, go and make a f**king court case, cause you can't do shit without validaitons as quoted from Gandalf, Jasno ? cao.
Look. i said "IF". You don't know what hapand..
We didn't attack him. We don't see at pictures that we are shooting.. We ware only in car and looking at him JASNO? Bok
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A gangwar is ALWAYS the same...it's the group with the most allies and members online.
For example group A is in war with B.
There are 8 people from group A and 3 from group B.
If they fight group 8 will win but some hours later group B has more members online...
And so on and on..
Till someone drops the validation then the other group says they lost but they are not DESTROYED.
To destroy a gang that's not what someone else then the leaders can do..
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So you chased him to say Hi ? Together with Marques who were shoting at him ? Stop bullshiting Raf.
You can ONLY help your alieds if they are under attack, as the pictures prove, you were helping them in an attack, which is Deathmatching and rule breaking.
And today i went to Whetstone to see whats up and when i parked my car, your boys were close by with Marques on a meeting or some. I went out of the car and was just chilling with an animation on ( /smoke) , all of a suden your members Mario and Tino starts shoting out of no where, without saying a word or anything ( altough i was more then far from them) , and Marques who joined into .
While i was eating and watching that, it just went trough my head : " So thats Stracci srs roleplaying skills that they try to force so much. "
1st - Like i said before to Eugene, we gave a Ride to Marques guy he was on LS-LV highway, Eugene saw and shoot our car, that is the first pic which you saw us we get suspect by Mirko for "shooting" we didn't have killed no one. As Eugene was 1 and Marques 3 we never shooted to him. If you see Tino running behind Eugene, yes thats true he didn't follow Gio and My orders and he got punished for that.
2nd - When your guys attacked Marques we had 1 or 2 members with them our members got fired so we went there was when we found Vinny running in highway.
3rd - Send me a Forum PM about that situation at Whetstone which involve Tino and Mario.
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Look. i said "IF". You don't know what hapand..
We didn't attack him. We don't see at pictures that we are shooting.. We ware only in car and looking at him JASNO? Bok
Happen^.
Like i saidSo you chased him to say Hi ? Together with Marques who were shooting at him ? And with your member who is shooting on him, by the admitting of Rafael itself? Stop bullshit.
To cut the argument and constant debate its easy:Make a choice, either accept a vaildation or STOP attacking us, this looking to be a war, better get it right here on forums before in game.
You gentlmans get your facts straight, either put validations back, or back and f**k off from us.
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Cofiliano.see my earlier posts and you will find the answer..
Drop that bullshit.
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Cofiliano.see my earlier posts and you will find the answer..
Drop that bullshit.
You're the one who needs to continue it, typically of course.
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I don't see why you carry on an argument even though it was finished about 3 days ago. We can't put Validations back up because like before, what will happen is whenever one group has more people online, they will attack. This is not how it should work and is not fun for my members.
If you want to set up something where we have a Mafia War once in a while then go for it, I'm all in. It's a game and all of you who are getting so wound up about it need to calm down. We will never know the truth about what happened with the incident with Euegene as neither group will tell the truth, we are all humans here and obviuosly no one wants to take the blame. Eugene dude, you should've known better than to post these screenshots as all the stir up is a stupid argument that no one will win. You yourself have said many times, don't post a report, send it to one of the leaders. So why not do this insetad of posting a reporting and starting a stupid little argument.
As to my views on the validations, I think that it is a stupid idea that will never work as one group will always have more people online at a certain point. This will end up in the larger of the groups attacking the other and ultimately winning. A stupid idea if you ask me. If groups could settle something where they have one war a month, or something simliar, I would happily put all our validations back up. However at the moment I see no chances of this happening just by looking at those screenshots.
Before you start posting bullshit after this, read my post again and see that I am not attacking any group personally and am just stating my opnion. If you want to carry on arguing, take it to Forum PM and stop clogging up this topic.
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Seriously, this validation system is a total bullshit, we've seen nothing but trouble, and useless arguments... Just cool down, let it be like it was a year ago... no one moaned about anything then.
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let it be like it was a year ago... no one moaned about anything then.
/facepalm :rofl:
Post Merge: February 23, 2010, 03:21:01 pm
Eugene dude, you should've known better than to post these screenshots as all the stir up is a stupid argument that no one will win. You yourself have said many times, don't post a report, send it to one of the leaders. So why not do this insetad of posting a reporting and starting a stupid little argument.
idk who is leader of stracci... you, tito, kyle, bob, corey, nitrox?
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Seriously, this validation system is a total bullshit,
Probably.
we've seen nothing but trouble, and useless arguments...
Somewhat.
let it be like it was a year ago... no one moaned about anything then.
lolololol where do you get this stuff?? you should do standup.
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All you have to do it look into the Stracci topic and see who is the leader.
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All you have to do it look into the Stracci topic and see who is the leader.
noany ranks there
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I say that we don't attack anyone without arranging some kind of war first of all. If not it just leads to pointless arguments with both groups shouting DM. This way no one can moan because we have set it up before hand. Times have passed since we could just have a normal RP fight without setting shit up.
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as long as this topic is not locked, and as long as main argo leaders said otherwise, we need to follow the rules.
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3rd - Send me a Forum PM about that situation at Whetstone which involve Tino and Mario.
Funny that, Mario and Tino are provoking Ancelotti too.
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eh this a problem... diablos and ancelotti going at it :P
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eh this a problem... diablos and ancelotti going at it :P
Not really, Diablos needs to learn to respect individuals in a more professional manner. He thinks he is some role play superior, in reality he is far from that as in on the lower end of the Role play spectrum. As far as professionalism, he leads Diablos he shouldn't be a total jackass 99% of the time. He needs to re-think about what he is posting before he does because all he is doing is ruining His and Diablos reputation(Which actually was really good). Also when he doesn't get something his way he tends to turn into more of a child, go check Marques topic or better yet talk to people he has asked to join Diablos. When he gets turned down he hits them with the whole "Your a crappy role player anyway, we don't want people like you in Diablos". Which is completely hypocritical. Im not posting this as some sort of flame or trying to provoke Urs, but man you need to raise your maturity a little bit. I honestly thought Urs was 12 until Aywar told me he is 15. I'm quite sure other people in our community will agree with me as far as that goes. As i said this isn't meant to be provoke or flame. It is just the truth in a more of a community Point of view. Yes i have been a bit immature myself but i pretty much ended it on the forums. So yet again, Urs rethink about some of your actions and bring up that maturity level a bit and i hope to actually have good roleplaying experiences with you when you quit thinking your a Roleplay superior.
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Group Name: The Ancelotti Family
Group Leader(s): Romeo Ancelotti, Andros Ancelotti.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding.
Validations Listed: The Mafia Family.
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Group Name: The Ancelotti Family
Group Leader(s): Romeo Ancelotti, Andros Ancelotti.
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Adding.
Validations Listed: The Mafia Family.
Sorry but I don't agree to this so it will be taken as DM
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Sorry but I don't agree to this so it will be taken as DM
It's not DM if you're provoking me, then it's just. :)
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It's not DM if you're provoking me, then it's just. :)
Dude your funny
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Dude your funny
The Mafia Family isn't even a real group....So no point in adding a validation. Also if it will make you happier Aldo. Ill remove my tag..Kill you...then re-add it? Will that make you feel a little more special. Also if there is a decent role play reason we can Rob/Kidnap/Kill you. Its called role playing ;) .
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Group Name:Diablos
Group Leader(s):Eduardo, Nico, Pablo, Diego_Prada, Aurelio
Validations Severed (immediately):Marques
Reason for ending validation(s): I won't tolerate dming and non rping.
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Group Name:Gvardia Fami8ly
Group Leader(s):Cofiliano, EUgene, Hell, MadBoi, Killar
Validations Severed (immediately): Power Rangers
Reason for ending validation(s): They use meta power against us, not fair ! D:
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I dont have to rp stupid
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Shouldnt the validations be refreshed as 4 of the groups dont exist on there...
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I think validations have been ceased, I was told this by a high ranked official not long ago.
not sure where it stands now though, I'd like if someone would clarify it though.
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I think validations have been ceased, I was told this by a high ranked official not long ago.
I have heard nothing of the kind, although since I no longer update the front post, the system is extroadinarily hard to read now.
It was a compromising workaround at the start. I'm not going to update this thing every single day forever, I'm afraid. I also made this when the criminal side has good prospects, which I feel they no longer do.
I'm not sure where it stands at the moment on an official level, but you might as well consider the system inactive for the time being. Hopefully a more free system will eventually be allowed.
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We come dudes!!! we will rule all of Ganton, (this is not official yet) but, DarkKings is returned into Gang, and will not be a
Clan anymore!!!
I REPEAT, IS NOT OFFICIAL YET !
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We come dudes!!! we will rule all of Ganton, (this is not official yet) but, DarkKings is returned into Gang, and will not be a Clan anymore!!!
I REPEAT, IS NOT OFFICIAL YET !
What is this?
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we will rule all of Ganton
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: made my day :lol:
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Only Lance runs ganton :D
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Group Name:Stracci
Group Leader(s):Joe Stracci
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding!
Validations Listed: Ancelotti, Gvardia, Marques, Diablos.
Post Merge: March 15, 2010, 04:07:12 pm
Group Name:Stracci
Group Leader(s):Joe Stracci
Validations Severed (immediately): Argonath Army (To make them clear they may not shoot us)
Reason for ending validation(s):Not enforcing the rules, revenge killing.
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I knew that was coming. ;)
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Group Name:Stracci
Group Leader(s):Joe Stracci
Validations Severed (immediately):All (But re-valid when lag is fixed)
Reason for ending validation(s):All the lag, auto-revalidate at fix.
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Also if there is a decent role play reason we can Rob/Kidnap/Kill you. Its called role playing ;) .
Forcing him to RP Something he doesn't want to do is called Power Gaming
He doesn't have to RP if he doesn't want to
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Forcing him to RP Something he doesn't want to do is called Power Gaming
He doesn't have to RP if he doesn't want to
Yea and its called watch ur back, if you dont want to roleplay (not hardcore rp) then why are you on argo? Also nobody is forcing him to roleplay, if he wishes to run he can. called use your mind, we were giving these ways to think if our life would be in danger irl. Apply it.
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btw you own 50k to mario due a scamm, nice casino you have shoot costumers and scamm them.
A dead man can't tell a living man that someone scammed him fifty grand, so sue him. A dead man also can't say "start war with them, they killed me!" Quit hunting for a scapegoat.
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It doesn't matter what happens in real life, on this server, it is against the server rules
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Group Name: Grape St. Purps
Group Leader(s): Daddy and Diddy Purp
New Gang or Adding Validations?: new gang, and adding
Validations Listed:
Young Mexican Gangsters
SkinHead
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Panda, update it :<
Lombardi, Spetznas, Calton g's do not exist anymore :S
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Until I've finished my coursework I'm not going to work this system out.
But don't worry, thats only 3 weeks away.
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Group Name:Stracci
Group Leader(s):Joe Stracci
Validations Severed (immediately):Ancelotti, Gvardia & Marques
Reason for ending validation(s):Basically it's about revenge killing, not reacting to roleplay (Example Martin Stracci - /me trips, just continueing firing with no RP.) and attacking without a proper reason. Dropped untill Sunday the 18th, then we will give them a extra try.
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Group Name:Stracci
Group Leader(s):Joe Stracci
Validations Severed (immediately):Ancelotti, Gvardia & Marques
Reason for ending validation(s):Basically it's about revenge killing, not reacting to roleplay (Example Martin Stracci - /me trips, just continueing firing with no RP.) and attacking without a proper reason. Dropped untill Sunday the 18th, then we will give them a extra try.
Earth to NitrOx, Earth to NitrOx... Validations are suspended by Gandalf, Frank Hawk, and Gimli, untill further notice.
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Panda, update it :<
Lombardi, Spetznas, Calton g's do not exist anymore :S
Ah, Spetznas was a great group.
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Group Name:Young Mexican Gangsters
Group Leader(s): [YMG]Animalux,[YMG]BJ Sykes
Validations Severed (immediately):Grape St. Purps
Reason for ending validation(s): a lot of rulebreaks and lag.
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Group Name:Young Mexican Gangsters
Group Leader(s): [YMG]Animalux,[YMG]BJ Sykes
Validations Severed (immediately):Grape St. Purps
Reason for ending validation(s): a lot of rulebreaks and lag.
... Validations are suspended by Gandalf, Frank Hawk, and Gimli, untill further notice.
Nuff said.
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Group Name:STracci
Group Leader(s):NitrOx
New Gang or Adding Validations?:Adding
Validations Listed:Marques
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Group Name: Wilson Gang
Group Leader(s): Lance Wilson
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Both
Validations Listed: Ganton Ballas
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Group Name: The Ganton Ballas
Group Leader(s): Travis_Clip , Cuba_Tahoe
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Both
Validations Listed: Wilson Gang
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At some point in the following week or the week after I will be writing a program to make this a lot easier for me to operate. Until then it is to be self policed, you may use the topic if you wish but the main post will remain as is until I'm finished.
I would do it sooner (i.e. now) but I have actual schoolwork to do, and this is going to need a couple days since I'll have to use a database.
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How?