Let's get to the point of all these,what is the first reason that making israel attacking palestine several times ?If you mean the most recent attacks, it was a reaction to constant firing from Gaza of rockets in to the Israeli terrotory.
If you mean the most recent attacks, it was a reaction to constant firing from Gaza of rockets in to the Israeli terrotory.I'v noticed that this war was began on 2009/2010 or smth like that,what was the beginning of all these wars ? Although palestine was just attacked israel once and it's on 2012 not 2009-2011,and also what is the goal of attacking palestine right now ?
I'v noticed that this war was began on 2009/2010 or smth like that,what was the beginning of all these wars ? Although palestine was just attacked israel once and it's on 2012 not 2009-2011,and also what is the goal of attacking palestine right now ?
2009/2010? It's 1920 actually..I'm related this war to the ERA 2000, :).
I'v noticed that this war was began on 2009/2010 or smth like that,what was the beginning of all these wars ? Although palestine was just attacked israel once and it's on 2012 not 2009-2011,and also what is the goal of attacking palestine right now ?The history is much longer. I will try to put it, though be sure that probably both Israel and Palestines will disagree.
The history is much longer. I will try to put it, though be sure that probably both Israel and Palestines will disagree.Ah,i understand now,but i would like to ask,this war that you are talking about was at -1950 right ? i'm just wanted to know why israel started the war again on 2009
The area where Israel is has been inhabited for thousands of years, in fact it is near the cradle of our civilization. For a very long time (let say until around 1948) it were mostly nomadic tribes who dwelled there.
Some were of Jewish religion, others were pagan and after Islam entered many tribes were converted to that religion.
The Jewish have always been a relatively small and closed group. While they excel in trade and science, they are in some ways closed to outsiders which makes them often a target for jealousy. In Jewish tradition the area of Israel (Judea) was their birth ground, which they were promised to inhabit by their religion.
The problem with that is that the Islam holds a verse that if the Jewish are given their land, it will only be near the end of times. As such you can imagine that different doctrines cause a conflict of interest.
When the Ottoman Empire that held the area a long time collapsed, the area of Trans-Jordania came under English rule. After WW2 a plan was formed to split up the area between the different national groups living there.
Syria was formed, the borders of Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt were set.
The Trans-Jordanian are was split in three parts. One was to inhabit the Jewish population (around 10% of the total area divided) a part was given to Jordan and a part was given to Egypt, both parts with autonomy for the desert tribes who lived there.
The country of Israel is inhabited by Jewish, Muslim and Christians who have equal rights. There are Muslim and Christian representatieves in the Knesset (parliament), and in general they manage to live in peace.
Due to religious fanatism, not all of the Arab nations agreed yet the plan was accepted. The state of Israel was formed, and the Jewish started to build and irrigate the desert land. To the surprise of their neighbours they managed to make the desert ground fertile, exporting fruits and building modern cities like Tel Aviv. As it happens, people got jealous.
In 1967 there were a number of wars, where Israel took the Gaza and Sinai areas from Egypt and the West Bank from Jordan. The people living there were unhappy to live under Israeli rule, as the idea of the was was remove Israel.
A number of organizations were formed to remove Israel from the territories they gained. In order to unite the citizens against Israel, Yasser Arafat used the old Roman name of Palestine and started calling the tribes 'Palestinians'.
After many terrorist actions and negotiations, Israel agreed to withdraw from Gaza and the West Bank and give them autonomy. This means that the people there have the right to form their own government and police, and live their own life. However for some religious fanatics this is not enough. They will not be happy until Israel is destroyed, which is for them reason to continue the terrorist actions.
A country which is attacked by their own areas needs to defend. As a result, Israel closed off the area by a wall, and controls what is sent to there. While this is obviously not 100% successful (else no rockets could be shot) it certainly helps.
The people living in Gaza and the West Bank woud like to obtain full independence instead of autonomy. This they would do under the name of Palestina. The problem is that they wish to obtain this by force, and if possible by removing Israel completely from the map.
In general this are fanatics and bad power-hungry governments.
As thousands of years have proven, the people can live peacefully together as long as they overcome the bullshit.
The ongoing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is both simple to understand, yet deeply complex. At the heart of this conflict is a basic idea that both sides believe: The Israelis believe that they are entitled to the land now known as Israel, while the Palestinians believe that they are entitled to the land they call Palestine. Unfortunately, both sides claim the same land; they simply call the land by different names. For religious Jewish Israelis and religious Muslim Palestinians, the belief is deeper still, for both sides believe that God (called Jehovah by the Jews and Allah by the Muslims), gave them the land, and that to give it away or to give it up to another people is an insult to God and a sin.Exactly,i wonder if they having a meeting i'd be sure they both countries will be on peace and no more wars though,there is muslims also in israel right yeah,and yet why would this war never ended,i think israel already had his revenge on palestines of palestines attacks on israel,there is no point for keep going to war at this time.
The history of the conflict is much more complex than that simple explanation, but the religious and historical differences are very important to this story. On another level, the reasons for the continual fighting is easy to understand. They have been fighting for over 60 years, and each war, each death, each act of terrorism, only deepens the hatred and the reluctance to give in to the other side
2009/2010? It's 1920 actually..Actually, Everything started in 1798-1801 where Napoleon Bonaparte decided to engage at Egypt in order to increase the French Colonies around the old world(Europe, Asia, Africa).After the Abukir War with Britain, Napoleon lost their connections to France, and their supplies, which also led to England taking control of Mediterranean Sea, In early 1799, Bonaparte decided to start a new adventure towards Aka(a town in Palestine.), In his way, he took control of Gaza' and Yafa', After arriving at Aka', Bonaparte surrounded the place for 2 months, but he failed due to England aiding Aka' and many other reasons, Bonaparte secretly went back to France, this fight made the Europe Countries think of How Important is the location of Egypt, Palestine and the whole Arabian Culture which resulted in The Europe Attacks on the Arab Countries.
Ah,i understand now,but i would like to ask,this war that you are talking about was at -1950 right ? i'm just wanted to know why israel started the war againThere has been a long series. Israel will when near elections (every 4 years) show some muscle as the government wants to look strong.
on 2009
Just to be precise: there are no two countries. Israel is the single country in the area, but it has given autonomy to Gaza and to West Bank.
Exactly,i wonder if they having a meeting i'd be sure they both countries will be on peace and no more wars though,there is muslims also in israel right yeah,and yet why would this war never ended,i think israel already had his revenge on palestines of palestines attacks on israel,there is no point for keep going to war at this time.
It is useless for israel making another war,it'll just making palestines innocent having pain,in order to get this war ended,i'm willing israel and palestine having a peace meeting,thank you for your help.
There has been a long series. Israel will when near elections (every 4 years) show some muscle as the government wants to look strong.
Apart from that, there are daily problems between the areas.Does it means palestine country is now gone and there is no country called palestine anymore ? and also Hamas are terrorist ? never heard that before..
Just to be precise: there are no two countries. Israel is the single country in the area, but it has given autonomy to Gaza and to West Bank.
The West Bank is governed by the President Abbas, where as Gaza is governed by the terrorist Hamas.
Lol, I never knew Gandalf was inadvertently siding with Israel... good to know.Doesn't mean he hates palestines, maybe Hamas is just a terrorist..
Doesn't mean he hates palestines, maybe Hamas is just a terrorist..I never said he does. But he's mentioning all the negatives of one side, and leaving out the other's.
I never said he does. But he's mentioning all the negatives of one side, and leaving out the other's.What is Israel doing thats negative then? :poke:
Lol, I never knew Gandalf was inadvertently siding with Israel... good to know.
I just wish the war to end :( It dont matter which country or region it is in..These words are some to live by. You, indeed, have a great view of humanity's capabilities, and it's nice to see that someone wants peace not because of a want to win the war, but instead for the sake of human life and the race as a whole. For that post, you have my respect. Thank you for standing up and posting how you feel despite it being different than so many others' opinions. We need more people like that in this world.
Violence will cause / create more violence and plant its seed of hate and other negative things within us which will either die in the heart by the power of love or will grow by hate and anger and other negative emotions..
What is Israel doing thats negative then? :poke:Not doing... did.
These words are some to live by. You, indeed, have a great view of humanity's capabilities, and it's nice to see that someone wants peace not because of a want to win the war, but instead for the sake of human life and the race as a whole. For that post, you have my respect. Thank you for standing up and posting how you feel despite it being different than so many others' opinions. We need more people like that in this world.Everyone wishes for world/regional peace... but it'll never happen until one side of a war (not necessarily this one) is destroyed. Two sides who have been fighting for a long time can't just start loving each other... if one says they love the other, they're lying. His words are ones to live by, but never live under.
Lol, I never knew Gandalf was inadvertently siding with Israel... good to know.I am not siding with anyone.
Not doing... did.They could if they chose too. The only reason it's not realistic to do so is because of human nature...and with humans afraid of change, it is indeed an issue. This can be changed if people try, though.
Everyone wishes for world/regional peace... but it'll never happen until one side of a war (not necessarily this one) is destroyed. Two sides who have been fighting for a long time can't just start loving each other... if one says they love the other, they're lying. His words are ones to live by, but never live under.
A country that never existed can not be gone. There nave has been a country called Palestine, it was a designation for an area. Similar like the Alps are an area, but were never a country.
Does it means palestine country is now gone and there is no country called palestine anymore ? and also Hamas are terrorist ? never heard that before..
I am not siding with anyone.May I ask for you to remind me who was so greedy as to start a war on other people's lands?
If the Palestinians wish to be peaceful they have every right to obtain their freedom and create a country. As long as they feel they must destroy and hate Israel, they deserve nothing.
Not doing... did.Peace can happen without destruction. In WW1 and WW2 Europe fought the Germans, and especially in WW2 there was a lot of hate against them.
Everyone wishes for world/regional peace... but it'll never happen until one side of a war (not necessarily this one) is destroyed. Two sides who have been fighting for a long time can't just start loving each other... if one says they love the other, they're lying. His words are ones to live by, but never live under.
You know, my biggest point that pisses me off about this situation is that fact that once Palestinians get hit, they start whining like little girls and always cry about how "innocent" civilians got hurt.Both sides do that actually... you just don't see it a lot from Israel because less Israeli civils die than palestinians.
Well, I've never understood the situation actually...Then maybe you shouldn't get into this topic. (no offense intended whatsoever)
Peace can happen without destruction. In WW1 and WW2 Europe fought the Germans, and especially in WW2 there was a lot of hate against them.The people who have forgiven are most probably the generation that came after such wars... If one forgives someone for killing his family, they would've lost their honor/self-respect.
Of course those who lost family to them would never forget, but still they learned to accept that not every person born in Germany was evil.
Similar things happened in the Pacific with Japan.
People forgave once hostilities stopped. Problem is that some people seem to have lost the capacity to forgive.
the problem is at both of the sides.This, is what should summarize the countless topics that were created about this subject. Both sides are wrong, not one alone, not the other alone. Both sides have innocent civilians being killed, not just one.
You know, my biggest point that pisses me off about this situation is that fact that once Palestinians get hit, they start whining like little girls and always cry about how "innocent" civilians got hurt.Seems it is that way.
Both sides do that actually... you just don't see it a lot from Israel because less Israeli civils die than palestinians.Mainly because the Hama's army or whatever is launching missiles and such from civilian areas/buildings in order to make the rest of the world feel sorry for them.
I am not siding with anyone.:bow:
If the Palestinians wish to be peaceful they have every right to obtain their freedom and create a country. As long as they feel they must destroy and hate Israel, they deserve nothing.
Seems it is that way.
Mainly because the Hama's army or whatever is launching missiles and such from civilian areas/buildings in order to make the rest of the world feel sorry for them.
This, is what should summarize the countless topics that were created about this subject. Both sides are wrong, not one alone, not the other alone. Both sides have innocent civilians being killed, not just one.
May I ask for you to remind me who was so greedy as to start a war on other people's lands?
You surely do look like your hate for Israel is gone lol.. when I said exactly what you said, you said something about thats what I think or something like that..I said I don't pick sides in a war that is not mine. :razz:
''Peace can only be achieved by understanding''
- Albert Einstein.
We always say this: If there is a war, the problem is at both of the sides.
Exactly,if israel does understand that palestine wants to ended the war,the war might be ended already about a week ago,but unfortunately israel never understand and they keep attacking palestines and killing innocent,they supposed to kill the terrorists only right ? the goal of israel attacking palestine is to kill the terrorist as revenge but they still keep killing innocent.
Say you live in a house, and you're neighbour every day walks up to his fence, and throws a rock at your house, most of the times it just bounces of the wall, making a irritant sound, but sometimes it hits a window or yourself, after a month of doing this, you walk up to him and punch him in the face, he runs back and cries to his father and everyone in the neigbourhood about how you're evil and how you hit him, who is infact wrong ?
in reality, both sides are f**ked up for having this nonsense debate for so long, but in this separate part of the war, Israel is completely right to fight back, and in the end, Hamas currently governs the country, maybe if they stopped spending all their money on acquiring rockets that they cannot operate properly, they should of invested in education and healthcare for their people, and tried to give them some sort of stable peacefull lives.
Exactly,if israel does understand that palestine wants to ended the war,the war might be ended already about a week ago,but unfortunately israel never understand and they keep attacking palestines and killing innocent,they supposed to kill the terrorists only right ? the goal of israel attacking palestine is to kill the terrorist as revenge but they still keep killing innocent.
Hamas are only attacked israel ONCE,and about your neighbour story,the neighbour attacking me several times,that means the neighbour should have a lesson about not to attacking randomly,but palestine does not attacking israel just randomly,they had a several reasons.
1st.They hate israel because of the war on 2009/2010
2nd.They attacks israel because israel almost incharge on palestine's area
3rd.To test israel's feeling when they had pain.
No,they buying rockets with money not to waste it,and they used it properly,attacking the israel because of those reasons above.
Hamas are only attacked israel ONCE,and about your neighbour story,the neighbour attacking me several times,that means the neighbour should have a lesson about not to attacking randomly,but palestine does not attacking israel just randomly,they had a several reasons.Just to remind you, Trey_Johnson lives in an area that daily gets air alarm from rockets shot by Hamas, almost every day the past year.
1st.They hate israel because of the war on 2009/2010
2nd.They attacks israel because israel almost incharge on palestine's area
3rd.To test israel's feeling when they had pain.
No,they buying rockets with money not to waste it,and they used it properly,attacking the israel because of those reasons above.
What? You have no idea at ALL what you're talking about, so dont post random crap you know nothing about.
"if israel does understand that palestine wants to ended the war,the war might be ended already about a week ago"
Sierously you dont have a single clue what you're talking about, so you might just quit posting until you get your facts right about this topic.
Just to remind you, Trey_Johnson lives in an area that daily gets air alarm from rockets shot by Hamas, almost every day the past year.
1st: The war is much longer as 2009.
2nd: Israel has given them freedom on that area, yet they are not satisfied ?
3rd: Why should they want to cause random pain ?
What? You have no idea at ALL what you're talking about, so dont post random crap you know nothing about.
"if israel does understand that palestine wants to ended the war,the war might be ended already about a week ago"
Sierously you dont have a single clue what you're talking about, so you might just quit posting until you get your facts right about this topic.
Just to remind you, Trey_Johnson lives in an area that daily gets air alarm from rockets shot by Hamas, almost every day the past year.And I live 450m from the BORDER with GAZA, pointed to the center (Han Yones). I live in Eshkol settlements (Kibuttz Nahal Oz). Eshkol is the main target of the Palestinian, because it is the closest regional council to launch missles to. Everyday since 2000 or so.. we had to suffer from the fucking red alerts and the mortars and qassams. Especially after the escalations and the exterminations of IDF in Gaza, it is impossible to exit the house. Thanks god we have basements and got where to run, but the time is limited, only 12 seconds or less.
1st: The war is much longer as 2009.
2nd: Israel has given them freedom on that area, yet they are not satisfied ?
3rd: Why should they want to cause random pain ?
And I live 450m from the BORDER with GAZA, pointed to the center (Han Yones). I live in Eshkol settlements (Kibuttz Nahal Oz). Eshkol is the main target of the Palestinian, because it is the closest regional council to launch missles to. Everyday since 2000 or so.. we had to suffer from the f**king red alerts and the mortars and qassams. Especially after the escalations and the exterminations of IDF in Gaza, it is impossible to exit the house. Thanks god we have basements and got where to run, but the time is limited, only 12 seconds or less.
Now do you get the f**king point? Or you are still into "IDF killing innocent civilians"? "Innocent" civilians of Gaza are taking the responsibility for choosing the great HAMAS.
I might take soon pics of the border..
due to avoid provoke? you're the one provoking here as you have no idea whats going on here and you keep saying hamas attacked israel only once and idf keep killing innocent citizens so let me tell you something
No,not everyday missles released to attack the israel,and i guess no picture allowed in this topic due to avoid of provoke.
due to avoid provoke? you're the one provoking here as you have no idea whats going on here and you keep saying hamas attacked israel only once and idf keep killing innocent citizens so let me tell you somethingOfcourse they aren't gonna leave,it's their house,none of israel business,you couldnt just telling the innocent citizens to leave,they had the rights to remain live there because it's their houses located there,and you have no rights to attack them,attack hamas=/=attack innocent,simple.Also,i'm not starting the provocation,i'm just replying all the posts with the right facts,no offense,i'm not provoking of all these.
1. in a week, hamas shot 1250 rockets to Israel[the operation time]
2. hamas shot rockets to Israel before - that made us start the operation
3. you keep moaning about innocent palestines getting killed? maybe thats beacuse hamas made them die? israel citizens didnt die beacuse we got a machine that blows the rocket in the air before it reaches the ground which Gaza dont
4. before israel started the operation we went with our air force inside gaza and threw notes in arab saying "get away from hamas, we're starting an operation" - they decided to stay? not our fault
2nd: Israel has given them freedom on that area, yet they are not satisfied ?After taking it from them. If I go into your house, and take all of it except for the bathroom, in which I throw you and tell you not to get out of. You're not going to be very happy now are ya?
After taking it from them. If I go into your house, and take all of it except for the bathroom, in which I throw you and tell you not to get out of. You're not going to be very happy now are ya?The thing is that Israel took nothing from them as they had no country to begin with. So you sit in a house and when it is sold the new owner allows you to stay in one room. But you want the new owner to be thrown out even if he bought the place and renovated all the house.
3rd: It is not random,it's like an examination.let's just say a teacher and a student,a teacher wants a student to have a test with several difficult questions,automatically a student feel they have pain on answering the questions,that same goes like this war.
Rockey if your facts are right then im a cow.
That has got to be the worst example I have ever seen in my entire life.
If Israel has all this military might they usually boast themselves of... why haven't they walked into Gaza and installed a friendly government or something yet?
What is boast? And it wont work out anyways, there will be constant attacks on the Israeli goverment over there.Trey ++++++++++++ 1.
Bullshit. I find it funny that a said ''military power of Middle East'' is unable to walk into a minuscle neighbor and remove the hostile government.First of all, it is technically not a neighbour.
Second, unlike the USA they would not find themselves right to remove a democratic chosen government. Such actions are limited only to large allied groups.
Then I conclude that Israel wants blood as much as Hamas does. Removing the government responsible for the ''terrorism'' and installing one (made up of Palestines themselves, by the way) which is friendly and wishes to stabilise the region by realist means seems the only solution to me. If the mighty military of Israel hesitates to do such a thing, then the country will have to get over it that they will forever live with rockets landing on their shelters.+1000,
+1000,According to your writing, I am sure you are not above 12..
You're absolutely right,israel only wants blood,blood,blood,Agreed with you anyway.
In order to stop the rockets israel should stop the war before it'll be more difficult way to make it peaceful.Israel got their revenge,now they should stop the war.Imagine you're the innocent citizen at gaza killed by israel randomly,what will you feel ? pain right ? PAIN,palestine already had enough PAIN,israel,STOP attacking please..
Ofcourse they aren't gonna leave,it's their house,none of israel business,you couldnt just telling the innocent citizens to leave,they had the rights to remain live there because it's their houses located there,and you have no rights to attack them,attack hamas=/=attack innocent,simple.Also,i'm not starting the provocation,i'm just replying all the posts with the right facts,no offense,i'm not provoking of all these.What you on about bro? of course its thier houses and shit but Hamas keep hiding behind the citizens and shooting rockets from thier house so what do you except us to do? You live far away from Israel and Gaza so stop talking random shit you have no idea about and go find the right facts.
According to your writing, I am sure you are not above 12..
Bullshit. I find it funny that a said ''military power of Middle East'' is unable to walk into a minuscle neighbor and remove the hostile government.We were about to do that but USA and UK asked us to not go inside Gaza and try to end it only with air attacks on Hamas places.
According to your writing, I am sure you are not above 12..No,i'm above 12,i cant surely tell you the exact of my age,it's my secret,ages doesn't matter in this world game right ? Also,dont bring offtopic in here.
What you on about bro? of course its thier houses and shit but Hamas keep hiding behind the citizens and shooting rockets from thier house so what do you except us to do? You live far away from Israel and Gaza so stop talking random shit you have no idea about and go find the right facts.I expect that israel should stop the war,yes i'm far from israel and gaza,but my country do donations to the palestines by sending moneys,as you can see many indonesians on internet talking about Israel please stop the war,Free palestine!,etc.
According to your writing, I am sure you are not above 12..Ironic how YOU turned out to be a grammar "nazi". :lol: Not everyone knows how to speak/write/type correctly in English...
The thing is that Israel took nothing from them as they had no country to begin with. So you sit in a house and when it is sold the new owner allows you to stay in one room. But you want the new owner to be thrown out even if he bought the place and renovated all the house.They had a land... good enough for me.
We were about to do that but USA and UK asked us to not go inside Gaza and try to end it only with air attacks on Hamas places.Israel has always been the USA's puppets.
Then I conclude that Israel wants blood as much as Hamas does. Removing the government responsible for the ''terrorism'' and installing one (made up of Palestines themselves, by the way) which is friendly and wishes to stabilise the region by realist means seems the only solution to me. If the mighty military of Israel hesitates to do such a thing, then the country will have to get over it that they will forever live with rockets landing on their shelters.So you believe it will help if you remove a government? I think that works great with the rebel groups in Brazil. Next time any guys burns the land of a tribe, lets go in and remove the Brazilian goverment.
I'm not really familiar with this whole Isreal and Palestine conflict. I heard of it , but never really knew the actual political cause of the war.He is allowed to express his opinion, quoting others while hanging on their opinions is not the right behavior.
@Impurity w/e he's tw
He can be 9 if he wants to, thats none of your bussiness. Besides ,every human has their opinion, and i cant see what a twelve year old cant express it.
No,i'm above 12,i cant surely tell you the exact of my age,it's my secret,ages doesn't matter in this world game right ? Also,dont bring offtopic in here.It is not offtopic, use the report function next to the message if you find it offensive.
+1000,lol man... you're making my day.
You're absolutely right,israel only wants blood,blood,blood,Agreed with you anyway.
In order to stop the rockets israel should stop the war before it'll be more difficult way to make it peaceful.Israel got their revenge,now they should stop the war.Imagine you're the innocent citizen at gaza killed by israel randomly,what will you feel ? pain right ? PAIN,palestine already had enough PAIN,israel,STOP attacking please..
lol man... you're making my day.There was an arab woman who took out a knife and attacked an border soldier near Jerusalem / Hebron some days ago, too, she said he was related somehow to jihad / hamas.
Israel wants only blood? thats what Hamas want.
2 days ago a palestine went into Tel Aviv(israel city) and blew up a bus with innocent people - so we're the one that want blood? think before you talk.
Palestine had enough pain? Hamas kept shooting to Israel rockets every day from 2009 so they had pain right and we had party right?
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There should be a multy quote option lol..
Ragdoll - Israel could go inside Gaza and remove everything inside there if we wanted only blood.
There should be a multy quote option lol..You could press "Insert Quote" (which you can see on the post history below) while on the "Post Reply" page.
We were about to do that but USA and UK asked us to not go inside Gaza and try to end it only with air attacks on Hamas places.
Ragdoll - Israel could go inside Gaza and remove everything inside there if we wanted only blood.Very very contradicting...
Indeed, there should be.Her kids were probably killed by IDF.
There was an arab woman who took out a knife and attacked an border soldier near Jerusalem / Hebron some days ago, too, she said he was related somehow to jihad / hamas.
Her kids were probably killed by IDF.No one knows.
lol man... you're making my day.
Israel wants only blood? thats what Hamas want.
2 days ago a palestine went into Tel Aviv(israel city) and blew up a bus with innocent people - so we're the one that want blood? think before you talk.
Palestine had enough pain? Hamas kept shooting to Israel rockets every day from 2009 so they had pain right and we had party right?
You feel good sitting there in Indonesia blaming everyone and acting smart***, are you satisfied by that?
No,israel does not deserve party,they only attacking,israel was the first one attacked palestine,so instantly palestine getting mad and released several rockets in the air to the israel land,israel made this all.
You feel good sitting there in Indonesia blaming everyone and acting smart***, are you satisfied by that?Are you crazy ? i'm not blaming everyone,and neither sitting here satisfied,i'd be satisfied if israel stopped the war already,but it didnt happend yet.Also,i'm banned from the server,how could i go in-game on argonath rpg ? :lol: go sometimes check unban request,see who else is banned.
Go IG and RP, have fun.
So you believe it will help if you remove a government? I think that works great with the rebel groups in Brazil. Next time any guys burns the land of a tribe, lets go in and remove the Brazilian goverment.
Israel is giving the people a choice to organize themselves and live in peace. If they do not wish to do this, their situation will never change.
Does Israel want blood ? If they did they could roll in and remove anyone shooting at them. Unfortunately that would get them in trouble with the UN.
If you noticed the attack you will see that Israel targeted military targets like rocket storage and terrorist leaders. In return Hamas shoots random rockets and blows up buses.
lol man.... did you even read what I said?Yes i understand,and there is no power rangers in my global tv anymore,so i couldnt watch them.So,you,go turn on your tv and switch into news channel and find the right facts.
go watch power rangers
Don't be smartass, if you don't know anything about the problems with Israel and Palestine, just don't comment on it.
No,israel does not deserve party,they only attacking,israel was the first one attacked palestine,so instantly palestine getting mad and released several rockets in the air to the israel land,israel made this all.
Provocation removed.Operation over ? i'm still seeing innocent citizens in gaza injured ..
Don't be smartass, if you don't know anything about the problems with Israel and Palestine, just don't comment on it.I do know the facts,i watched the news,and got some informations from my parents.
I'm pretty sure that being under USA's wings, Israel would not suffer. Besides, if the UN was used as a tool for imperialism on Libya, why can they not be used to permit an intervention in Gaza which is actually a real cause?No oil there. :roll:
Provocation removed.It's still being called an operation? Wow.
Provocation removed.Yes i would be satisfied if israel stop the war,and yeah i do mind my own business,my business is to help other muslims,since palestines are muslims i should help them.
Yes i would be satisfied if israel stop the war,and yeah i do mind my own business,my business is to help other muslims,since palestines are muslims i should help them.Go go superman! :alert"
Are you crazy ? i'm not blaming everyone,and neither sitting here satisfied,i'd be satisfied if israel stopped the war already,but it didnt happend yet.Also,i'm banned from the server,how could i go in-game on argonath rpg ? :lol: go sometimes check unban request,see who else is banned.I know you are banned since you've said that 1000000 times, I see you don't know Argonath is spread over other games too.
News? I see it in my own eyes - you should go and watch news as you live nowhere around here and you still talk like a smartass without knowing any shit.No,i'm helping my muslims brother on palestines,they had enough pain,i want them to be freedom and satisfied of the freedom,my religion's muslim,i had the rights to help each other muslims.
Go go superman! :alert"It's not funny.please be more serious,you're older than me,act mature,man!
News? I see it in my own eyes - you should go and watch news as you live nowhere around here and you still talk like a smartass without knowing any shit.When you guys stormed into Lebanon in 2006, all you killed were civilians...
Same goes for you Ragdoll, you live in Lebanon and you're arab yourself so of course you will protect your mates and yes its called an operation, if we'd call it war IDF would go inside Gaza with tanks and soldiers but no we didn't beacuse we dont want to hurt your "innocent" people.
Ok, just go to Palestine and be a soldier, superman or something then, smartass.Do you think that is easy ? huh ? it's not funny,think!,superman ? what are you talking about man ?
I know you are banned since you've said that 1000000 times, I see you don't know Argonath is spread over other games too.I know,i do play other games,but i still care this problem,i want my muslims brother on palestine are saved,and feel comfortable.
When you guys stormed into Lebanon in 2006, all you killed were civilians...Past is past, present is present.
"1191 civilians killed, 49 soldiers killed."- Wikipedia. Get better aiming, unless you were aiming AT the civils... And don't you dare say the army was hiding behind civilians.
No,i'm helping my muslims brother on palestines,they had enough pain,i want them to be freedom and satisfied of the freedom,my religion's muslim,i had the rights to help each other muslims.You want them to have freedom? then tell them to stop firing rockets or stop Hamas.
Do you think that is easy ? huh ? it's not funny,think!,superman ? what are you talking about man ?:trust: :trust: :trust:
I'm still a child || donating moneys for them.
Past is past, present is present.So at that time you guys wanted civilian blood.. and now you don't? What's changed? Grown a conscience? Past does affect the present... in many many many ways.
Do not say past affects the present because it is false.
You want them to have freedom? then tell them to stop firing rockets or stop Hamas.It is stopped,and i'm not saying bullshit,it's the facts,it'll help,you're just gave up already.
Of course I'm older then you but how do you except me to act mature when you talk about shit you dont know about and I explained to you nicely atleast 5 times and you keep saying bullshit so yeah acting mature to you wont help.
Do you think that is easy ? huh ? it's not funny,think!,superman ? what are you talking about man ?Cool man, pray for them then and donate more money as u can.
I'm still a child,how can i be a soldier,i'm here helping palestine by pray for them,and donating moneys for them.
I know,i do play other games,but i still care this problem,i want my muslims brother on palestine are saved,and feel comfortable.
:trust: :trust: :trust:I do donate by collecting moneys then give it to my school,and my school sent the money via planes,ofcourse i'm not sending the money by myself. I meant the money given to the principal and principal sent the money via planes transferr
YRagdoll - Lebanon is a country with army and with president - your president couldn't stop hizballah(another terrorist organization) and hizballah shot rockets to notrh Israel and killed civilians and hizballah is the same shit as Hamas, hiding behind people so tell me you what would you do in this case if you'd be the president of Israel.HA... you do know Hezbollah = Iran right? Hezbollah has always been backed up by Iran and Syria... Whoever says it's Lebanon's fault is -excuse me- an idiot.
Israelis kicking Palestinians out of their homes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLunN-nag_o#ws)That fat bastard wouldn't even answer her question... talk about guilt eating him up. (not that it could ;))
Provocation removed.Nicely said.
Provocation removed.
Provocation removed.Refrain from that.
Ragdoll - you still didnt answer my question, dear.You really should quote me.
And who's fault is it? Hizballah shot rockets from Lebanon and Lebanon is official country with army and should have stopped Hizballah if they didnt want a war.Lebanon isn't as powerful as a paramilitary group with support from Iran and Syria... think a little.
You are saying bullshit, if you think those are the right fact then have fun with those lies.Refrain from calling him a "dumbass kid", just to comply with gandalf's clear rules in his first post... and yes I did answer, you just didn't see it:
Post Merge: November 24, 2012, 05:15:42 pm
Refrain from what? thats the truth.
And is it Israel problem that Lebanon isn't powerful enough to stop Hizballah? we had to protect our citizens and answer my question, stop changing subject.
Lebanon isn't as powerful as a paramilitary group with support from Iran and Syria... think a little.You think the lebanese government wanted you guys to invade us? HIL-AR-I-OUS.
I'm done argueing with dumb kids - Israel is bad country and we kill alllllllllllllllll ppl beacuse we want only bl00d and we l!ke to p3w p3wIn other words you're not intelligent enough to come up with good arguments, so you just say something sarcastic and leave the topic...
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Refrain from calling him a "dumbass kid", just to comply with gandalf's clear rules in his first post... and yes I did answer, you just didn't see it:Not really.
Lebanon couldn't stop Hezbollah because...You think the lebanese government wanted you guys to invade us? HIL-AR-I-OUS.
In other words you're not intelligent enough to come up with good arguments, so you just say something sarcastic and leave the topic...
Tip of the hat to you, but also a wag of the finger.
Woah lol.. you're calling ME a kid? And it's funny how you summarized the whole war as "haters gonna hate"... freakin' comedic!Yup, you're a kid too if you talk like that, you dont live in israel niether in gaza so you dont know anything except the "news" in your country and the haters there showing you lies with photoshop.
Yup, you're a kid too if you talk like that, you dont live in israel niether in gaza so you dont know anything except the "news" in your country and the haters there showing you lies with photoshop.Talking like what?
+1000,
You're absolutely right,israel only wants blood,blood,blood,Agreed with you anyway.
In order to stop the rockets israel should stop the war before it'll be more difficult way to make it peaceful.Israel got their revenge,now they should stop the war.Imagine you're the innocent citizen at gaza killed by israel randomly,what will you feel ? pain right ? PAIN,palestine already had enough PAIN,israel,STOP attacking please..
To sum this up.Opinion- saying what you think, like: I think my dad should work as a doctor
Yes, Israeli government/people are strict against Palestine people in many ways.
Yes, Hamas are killing innocents.
Now, why did you people move towards a different topic about Hezbollah and so on. I'm seeing many provocation from "Side A" and "Side B". One side however, is increasing in numbers. Stop forcing your "truth" on somebody else who has a different opinion. It like telling "My daddy can beat your daddy!". You can't state something to be true because of some observation of someone else, such as your television or "rockets flying around in the sky?, the evil Palestinis are coming!" It like the holocaust never happened and was a propaganda for the Jews. Get my point?
Stay on topic, and remember this, you are representing a certain country/state. Everything you say can reflect about what your country has to offer to this world.
Talking like what?That is why the Palestine terrorists are hated... they invade Israel.
And honestly, if you invade a country, you're gonna get haters.
A kid in an argument is a person who resolves to insults and flaming to try and prove a losing point... get over it.
That is why the Palestine terrorists are hated... they invade Israel.Both sides hate each other... just like jews hated germans and germans hated jews, even till now... forgiveness is bullshit, you can't deny it.
Both sides hate each other... just like jews hated germans and germans hated jews, even till now... forgiveness is bullshit, you can't deny it.The topic is not about that sides hate each other. The idea is to try and see how it can be changed.
Rambo style FTW
BTW im for the Palestine dudes they b badasses
In 2012 people are still fighting for religious reasons.. this is ridiculous. Fighting for something that doesn't exist.. I respect people who believe in such things, but fighting for it is just meaningless and very disgraceful.
If you both fight for land you're the same thing, what's the problem with staying together?
In 2012 people are still fighting for religious reasons.. this is ridiculous. Fighting for something that doesn't exist.. I respect people who believe in such things, but fighting for it is just meaningless and very disgraceful.:hurray: Religion... Nothing but problems.
If you both fight for land you're the same thing, what's the problem with staying together?
Religion... Nothing but problems.
:(Well as you all said palestine and israel hate each other for more than 60 years they should solve the problem because people there day every dayBut how can you solve the problem?
Humanity... Nothing but problems.No.. Theres things that cause problems for humanity, without those things there wouldn't be the problem.
No.. Theres things that cause problems for humanity, without those things there wouldn't be the problem.Greed.
Quite interesting now how this plays out and how alot of you seem to deviate from the path, Personally the notion that "No 1 should leave we figure out peace" is very ironc and dont say its a good idea, if that were ture why so much BS in the Balkans? not the same issues but as humanity has shown sometimes there inst a rhyme or reason, in fact gandalf up untill 90's You would have been mortal enemies and likewise just because our counties didnt see eye to eye and both sides could have trigger a war to end all wars.Now there is a very big difference in culture and probably opinion, one you may find as well in this conflict.
Then I conclude that Israel wants blood as much as Hamas does. Removing the government responsible for the ''terrorism'' and installing one (made up of Palestines themselves, by the way) which is friendly and wishes to stabilise the region by realist means seems the only solution to me. If the mighty military of Israel hesitates to do such a thing, then the country will have to get over it that they will forever live with rockets landing on their shelters.
If you look at WW2, you will see that Russia lost a lot of people, more than any outher country. Yet there was never the hate for Germans that developed in the West. Did the Russians act against the Nazis? Sure and Russians them selves were no angels. But it would never turn in to a 'all Germans are evil'.Heh, Russians, I like Russians. I like the Russian government, they don't brag about how powerful they are. :D
That is why the Palestine terrorists are hated... they invade Israel.I dont see anybody yet saying i hates palestine :redface:
But how can you solve the problem?If they could,they can make a meeting,but without any war,no guns allowed,done.
hi sir , u think u are come on to serius topic and trolled like dis with u are bad grammers?I guess it's not your problem if he speaking like that,it's his grammar,not yours,and that's still grammar,i still can read it,as long it can be readed it's a grammar..,and he's clearly said that he isn't joking.
No really learn to talk..
I guess it's not your problem if he speaking like that,it's his grammar,not yours,and that's still grammar,i still can read it,as long it can be readed it's a grammar..,and he's clearly said that he isn't joking.Maybe you just need to learn that he talks like that for fun and to annoy people, sorry have you played SA:MP Argonath since 2008? :poke:
Maybe you just need to learn that he talks like that for fun and to annoy people, sorry have you played SA:MP Argonath since 2008? :poke:Yes,maybe,but he shown to be serious,he's not joking or making funny,no i'm not,it's not nessecery to tell you since when i join the community right ?
hmm I've been reading post in this topic... Here's my point actually, i actually know something about the Israel and Palestine warA child died. OMG it is a war.
All i think is why are they doing it... i Really Respect all religion and in every holy book of there religion (Qur'an, Bible etc.) there is nothing about killing innocent People, by the word people i put the force word on children's who are dying in bomb blast, street kills... on Facebook i saw a man standing on a 3 year old baby with his foot on her chest and i felt sorry for that guys i really wished that God would have killed him right away.Feel free to question on any of my point, i am ready to answer.
Here's a child called Omar died in Gaza
A child died. OMG it is a war.What ? you doesn't even sad if you see such as that picture ? really ? i would be sad if i see that picture.That's the right facts too,but atleast maybe the child doesn't want to hear his/her parents.
Sorry but as much as I love my children and would be heartbroken if they died, putting a picture of a dead child in a war zone does nothing for me.
It only shows the parents were too damn stupid to protect it.
um didn't knew that pictures could be a lie, so does that mean that palestine's are showing fake pictures to prove there innocence,I removed a post showing multiple fake pictures. Yes Palestines post fake pictures too.
well said Gandalf its a war after all, but there is one thing i don't get the reason of why Israel attacking Palestine ( i never took interest in this)
um didn't knew that pictures could be a lie, so does that mean that palestine's are showing fake pictures to prove there innocence,
well said Gandalf its a war after all, but there is one thing i don't get the reason of why Israel attacking Palestine ( i never took interest in this)
I removed a post showing multiple fake pictures. Yes Palestines post fake pictures too.You Cleared Everything up for me, Love ya <3
But even if the picture is not fake, it still stands that the parents of the child seem to have been nowhere near it when it was killed.
So ask your parents if in case there was a war in your city if they would ever leave you alone and unprotected. Then you will understand why I call is plain stupidity.
People still don't get it?
In a war, BOTH sides use fake images to build hatred towards the others... Jesus Christ if Palestinians/Israelis are complaining about fake propaganda, they should know it's not going away anytime soon... so get over it.
I'd like to see an example of Israeli fake pictures related to this topic.Probably %90 of Israeli news is biased... same goes for Palestine news.
Probably %90 of Israeli news is biased... same goes for Palestine news.
Care to show an example of the Israeli side?
Mom protecting her child in Israel from a rocket:Yes, because a rocket would bounce off her back and back to Palestine... amirite?
(http://up357.siz.co.il/up3/tbmj5mnakygd.jpg) (http://www.siz.co.il/)
Yes, because a rocket would bounce off her back and back to Palestine... amirite?:lol:
Yes, because a rocket would bounce off her back and back to Palestine... amirite?You just proved how smart are you, again ;)
:lol:
Honestly though all these people are retarded..
If the UK went to war I'de just move to nothern scotland, where theres just cliffs and the odd house... Can't get bombed there.
The people in the area's being bombed should just move.
Probably %90 of Israeli news is biased... same goes for Palestine news.I fully agree with you. However biased is something else as fake.
Provocation removed.Thanks.
It's not that simple.Yes it is, feel in danger where you live? Move.
You just proved how smart are you, again ;)Nah, I just proved how smart the mother is.. to think a rocket won't blow her kid to bits if she was on top of her... jeeze (btw it's "you are" not "are you")
I fully agree with you. However biased is something else as fake.A fake picture isn't necessarily a Photoshopped one. It could be one that includes lies, out-of-context words/actions, and sometimes.. stupidity... (like the picture with the mom)
Biased means that you show what is in your favour, and try to remove what makes you look bad.
Fake news however is plain lying. There are plenty of examples where Palestine have produced clear fakes and lies. Your task was to show that Israel also produces a fake picture. So your answer is invalid.
Nah, I just proved how smart the mother is.. to think a rocket won't blow her kid to bits if she was on top of her... jeeze (btw it's "you are" not "are you")Wont be the best but its better than nothing - the rocket will mostly hit the mom instead of the girl.
A fake picture isn't necessarily a Photoshopped one. It could be one that includes lies, out-of-context words/actions, and sometimes.. stupidity... (like the picture with the mom)
As for biased news... they often do include lies, just to make the other side look bad. You should come to Lebanon and watch our news channels. :lol:
Nah, I just proved how smart the mother is.. to think a rocket won't blow her kid to bits if she was on top of her... jeeze (btw it's "you are" not "are you")
A fake picture isn't necessarily a Photoshopped one. It could be one that includes lies, out-of-context words/actions, and sometimes.. stupidity... (like the picture with the mom)
As for biased news... they often do include lies, just to make the other side look bad. You should come to Lebanon and watch our news channels. :lol:
Yup^, post them if you have them.I'd condemn the acts that Hezbollah did and say LB had nothing to do with it... your country isn't stupid enough to not realise that hezbollah's goals is to take over Lebanon, which isn't good for either of us.
Also you still didn't answer my question Rag which was:
You said Israel was bad when we defended our country in 2006 against Lebanon, hizballah shot us rockets instantly and Labanon isn't powerfull enough to stop them, what would you do as a president? :)
I'd condemn the acts that Hezbollah did and say LB had nothing to do with it... your country isn't stupid enough to not realise that hezbollah's goals is to take over Lebanon, which isn't good for either of us.Of course Lebanon has nothing to do with it but Hizballah shot alot of rockets from Lebanon area to Israel and hurted alot of citizens so of course we'll do something, wouldn't you do the same?
As for the fake picture... I already showed you the picture of the woman.. it's proof enough. Also, the camera man, he seems to be standing. Didn't he care about HIS life with a so-called rocket allegedly coming down on them?
I'd condemn the acts that Hezbollah did and say LB had nothing to do with it... your country isn't stupid enough to not realise that hezbollah's goals is to take over Lebanon, which isn't good for either of us.
As for the fake picture... I already showed you the picture of the woman.. it's proof enough. Also, the camera man, he seems to be standing. Didn't he care about HIS life with a so-called rocket allegedly coming down on them?
Fake picture? that women gave her life to save his girl and you're saying its fake? we got a machine that blows up the rocket in the air and sometimes it works and sometimes it don't so thats why he took that picture.I'm sorry but that was the WORST explanation I've ever heard. "Gave her life"? Find me a picture of the woman dead and I just might believe you. Machine that blows up rockets, they do exist, but they don't explain why the woman isn't running into a building to hide, or why the cameraman seems to have big balls during this whole situation.
So mind finding another "fake" picture or you can't beacuse it doesn't excist?
Yeah he might be standing.. it's stupid tho.. it's what caused few of the Israeli deaths in the last operation.. they went to their balcony to see the rockets.. and that was the last thing they saw.Sitting on a balcony is one thing, sitting on the street in plain sight is completely different.
Israel sucks for attacking on Palestine (muslims themselves that is). This 50+ year old war is totally unneeded and unnecessary. I hope mujahideen's cut their heads off for good. I see pictures of dead children and teenagers everyday on facebook and other websites. They're just kids, so why kill them? Fight against armed men (military and so), not the civilians who can't even fight back or who didn't do anything at all to deserve this. Israel is turning to Nazi Germany? Or worse..I guess you have been reading Palestine press only.
Israel does not target civilians, and usually tries to avoid hitting them.Mornin' boss.
Mornin' boss.We are not talking about Lebanon here... that was another war, another type of conflict.
And no it doesn't, but not at all times. ;)
Refer to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2006_Lebanon_War#Casualties_of_involved_parties) when you have the time.
Zlatan, remove the pics and provide links to them instead. Some people might not want to see these.Post of Zlatan removed due to violation of posting rules.
Also, I'd like to see you Israelis calling the video and pics fake... go on.. I dare ya.
We are not talking about Lebanon here... that was another war, another type of conflict.How's it different? Same reasons for the war, same results from both sides.
Post of Zlatan removed due to violation of posting rules."So what?" You wouldn't be saying that if one of your family members had died. So stop saying Israel does nothing to children/women, it makes you look clueless.
People die, we know. So what?
How's it different? Same reasons for the war, same results from both sides.I do not say no children or women died. I am saying that the reason they die is the fault of the people that are using them as shield fo their terrorist activities.
"So what?" You wouldn't be saying that if one of your family members had died. So stop saying Israel does nothing to children/women, it makes you look clueless.
I do not say no children or women died. I am saying that the reason they die is the fault of the people that are using them as shield fo their terrorist activities.So smashing a kid's head on the pavement is because of Hamas? Cutting kids open is because of Hamas? GASING MOTHERS IS BECAUSE OF HAMAS?
So blame Hamas for every woman and child that dies, not Israel.
So smashing a kid's head on the pavement is because of Hamas? Cutting kids open is because of Hamas? GASING MOTHERS IS BECAUSE OF HAMAS?Why was the kid in the path of the soldiers? HAMAS
Lots of that bullshit can be avoided... Israel just doesn't bother.
Why was the kid in the path of the soldiers? HAMASIn the path of the soldiers? Military Installation? IDF were f**king raiding homes! And when they did raid civilian homes they had 0 resistance... yet they bashed, and killed, and maimed, and decapitated.
Why were the mothers near a military installation? HAMAS.
Yes it is because of hamas.
In the path of the soldiers? Military Installation? IDF were f**king raiding homes! And when they did raid civilian homes they had 0 resistance... yet they bashed, and killed, and maimed, and decapitated.And you believe that the IDF can raid a random house without consequences? Perhaps your army is so that they will never prosecute war criminals, but the IDF and any proper army will kill those soldiers who do such things without provocation.
Flaken posted a couple of videos on this topic, watch them.
And get a better argument.
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All I can say, bull-shit. How can you say people faked dead children missing body parts, covered in blood. They are clearly killing all... Taking kids (teens) and cutting them open, then messing around with their organs and then killing them.. You might wanna check this (https://www.google.com/search?q=dead+palestine+kids&sugexp=chrome,mod%3D14&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=_WSzUMuBNojvswa884GADg&biw=1024&bih=655&sei=_2SzUJb6FcGUtAb-mYHACw).
Israeli soldiers smash child's head on pavement and gas his mom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzx-NPKMIuc#ws)
Why are you protecting ISRAEL
Israel is a very bad country, in many ways... not just war.
Please don't make stuff up...
You seem to be reading the ISRAEL press only.
Have a nice day, sirs. Hope you'll still protect your beloved Israel.
NOTE: Some photographs may disturb you, proceed with caution. (deleted bunch of photos attached on this post due to the topic rules)
Watch this video.
Imagine if this little boy was you.
And still you Israel f**ks go posting around saying Israel didn't do nothing and shit.
5 year old boy begging Israeli soldiers for mercy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX6fu2_WfRI#ws)
And yeah before you go posting around watch some videos first about your beloved Israel.. yeah?.
Breaking - Israeli settlers shoot unarmed Palestinians; Israeli army watches (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7W7jkuTBpc#ws)
They want pity? Are you serious though guy? What would you do, get your machine gun out and shoot? Yeah if you had one.
They want pity? Are you serious though guy? What would you do, get your machine gun out and shoot? Yeah if you had one. This kid atleast has some balls going out there throwing this so called "shit". Hes protecting his damn country that was taken over by Israeli's. Or atleast he's trying to.That kid is living in Israel, so he is fighting his own country.
Instead of sitting on their lazy asses and rioting, they could actually try to rebuild everything.
That kid is living in Israel, so he is fighting his own country.I dont get it,nathan clearly said that was a palestine's kid,and probably the kid was protecting his country by throwing rocks or smth.
Get that one in your head.
I dont get it,nathan clearly said that was a palestine's kid,and probably the kid was protecting his country by throwing rocks or smth.I guess you already forgot my explanation ?
The forum is having database errors, Gandalf, you planning to solve it anytime soon by any chance? Because I wrote a message and its nowhere to be found here...Apart from a minor issue that was solved the forum is working perfectly fine. However if you read the first post you will notice that any post that I feel crosses the line is instantly nuked.
Apart from a minor issue that was solved the forum is working perfectly fine. However if you read the first post you will notice that any post that I feel crosses the line is instantly nuked.Yees nice. Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to www.argonathrpg.eu (http://www.argonathrpg.eu)
Behave and you have no problem with vanishing posts.
Provocation removed.
Provocation removed.
Oh please tell me how the people there can obtain materials and knowledge of building construction. `.`
Uhhmm... no. It's more like fear of outcome: why build? It'll get destroyed in 2 hours, if not by rockets, then by poor construction plans. :lol:
Incentive. Some seek to create, others seek to destroy. It all depends what you put your mind to.
Uhhmm... no. It's more like fear of outcome: why build? It'll get destroyed in 2 hours, if not by rockets, then by poor construction plans. :lol:I guess that you were never in Gaza, just like Alan Wake.
I guess that you were never in Gaza, just like Alan Wake.I thought he was talking about the outskirts... where the rockets are actually landing...
They have modern hospitals, a university and several shopping malls.
The image of a desert with half-ruined buildings is one of the propaganda methods used. Reality is very different.
Yees nice. Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to www.argonathrpg.eu (http://www.argonathrpg.eu)Lets state some facts my dear friend:
I thought he was talking about the outskirts... where the rockets are actually landing...Israel will target where rockets are stored. But the world sometimes has the idea the whole of Gaza looks like those outskirts...
I guess that you were never in Gaza, just like Alan Wake.True, isnt the Gaza strip very modernised?
They have modern hospitals, a university and several shopping malls.
The image of a desert with half-ruined buildings is one of the propaganda methods used. Reality is very different.
Incentive. Some seek to create, others seek to destroy. It all depends what you put your mind to.
Sorry if I insulted anyone by saying Israeli's are nazi's... Just kidding.It is always very easy if you are a fascist living far away from a country to insult the peoople living there for no other reason that they do not match your religion. But I guess the only thing you learnt from the war in your own country is to hate others and feel superior.
Why should I tell them they're nazi in the face? They know it already.
I'm laughing at these 12 year olds protecting Israel killing the innocent. I won't be posting here anymore as this is just unnecessary for all and time wasting. You can't deal with nazi's.
Anyhow, I don't know how to spell so k bye
Provocation removed.:wow: Inb4Gandalf.
Sorry if I insulted anyone by saying Israeli's are nazi's... Just kidding.
Why should I tell them they're nazi in the face? They know it already.
I'm laughing at these 12 year olds protecting Israel killing the innocent. I won't be posting here anymore as this is just unnecessary for all and time wasting. You can't deal with nazi's.
Anyhow, I don't know how to spell so k bye
Sorry sir, but ummm, f**k you. Your living in Russia or whatever country and you don't have a f**king idea how its like loosing your parents, family, having nothing to eat, nowhere to live.
Far or not, I'd still do the same.
And hating, ofcourse.... I'll hate every country that is nazi-like, killing the innocent, for noany reason.
Sorry sir, but ummm, f**k you. Your living in Russia or whatever country and you don't have a f**king idea how its like loosing your parents, family, having nothing to eat, nowhere to live.Then you should hate the Hamas, as they attack civilkians for noany reason ,which is Nazi bheaviour. So do you accept that actually you hate Hamas and those who call themselves Palestinians but are nothing but people who wish to create hate and destruction ?
Far or not, I'd still do the same.
And hating, ofcourse.... I'll hate every country that is nazi-like, killing the innocent, for noany reason.
Then you should hate the Hamas, as they attack civilkians for noany reason ,which is Nazi bheaviour. So do you accept that actually you hate Hamas and those who call themselves Palestinians but are nothing but people who wish to create hate and destruction ?
Or are YOU the nazi because you just hate Jews ?
Provocation removed.Lol, yes, in Russia, everyone is immortal; there are no poor or homeless people...
Provocation removed.And look at what you're doing now.
And look at what you're doing now.Yes, Jews were very famous before WW2 as they attacked the Germans and everyone else in Europe daily.
Also, good to know you guys can keep your rage under control, bravo.
And look at what you're doing now.Defending our country from terrorists? thats what we're doing.
Also, good to know you guys can keep your rage under control, bravo.
Yes, Jews were very famous before WW2 as they attacked the Germans and everyone else in Europe daily.:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Also when they were placed in Ghettos from there they daily shot rockets at the German populations.
Get your f**king head on straight.
Defending our country from terrorists? thats what we're doing."Your" country? If it weren't for the Brits you wouldn't even be here...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:So you're saying hitler had a reason for killing 6m jews and more homos? find me a reason then.
No.
No one mentioned the pre-WW2 phase... and it wouldn't have been something Hitler did without a reason. If he had he wouldn't have been followed by a great deal of people.
"Your" country? If it weren't for the Brits you wouldn't even be here...
The reason Hitler has is the same that UKIP and similar parties around Europe are currently using to create hate against immigrants.
No.
No one mentioned the pre-WW2 phase... and it wouldn't have been something Hitler did without a reason. If he had he wouldn't have been followed by a great deal of people.
"Your" country? If it weren't for the Brits you wouldn't even be here...
And who gives a f**k what happened in the past?
thats what happened in WW2 when hitler decided it'd be cool to kill all jews and homos beacuse they're not cool enough.Apparently... you.
The reason Hitler has is the same that UKIP and similar parties around Europe are currently using to create hate against immigrants.Well... in a time with less money, Hitler made sure the Germans never went hungry, even during the hardest days of the war... he gave his soldiers double the salary that other generals gave theirs. So I doubt that that was what caused the hatred towards Jews.
In a time where there is less money, find someone to point at and let them take the hate so your government looks good.
However if you wish to compare the Israeli with Nazi, then you should look at the full reasons and philosophy as of why they do what they do.
In reality, Hamas (and you yourself) are more close to the Nazi thoughts than Israel, as your hate is founded on philosophy instead of reality.
However if you really study the thoughts of the Nazi, they would have no trouble in these times to replace the Jews with Muslim immigrants.
Which makes the support of some Muslims for Hitler extremely funny.
The JEws never invaded the Palestinian area. That is where you are making a mistake fed to you by propaganda.
What I'd like to ask you: what was the reason for Jews to invade the Palestinian area?[/font]
Well... in a time with less money, Hitler made sure the Germans never went hungry, even during the hardest days of the war... he gave his soldiers double the salary that other generals gave theirs. So I doubt that that was what caused the hatred towards Jews.Hitler came to power because of his promises. However in order to keep them he had to spend huge amounts of money. So where to take this money from?
As for Muslims (true ones) supporting what Hitler did... that's where you're wrong. What we try to explain to you people countless times... we don't support nor encourage the killing of any innocent person, whether Muslim, Christian or Jew. During Prophet Mohammed's (PBUH) time, there were Jewish citizens in Mekkah and Al Madina Al Mounawwarah (dunno the correct English translation), and they were taken care of just as much as Muslims were.Nobody harmed you in 1948. The country was British, and you had every opportunity to be part of the plan. However you preferred to sit in your tent with your camels thinking that piece of desert would never be anything else.
We only hate those who do us harm, which is what happened in 1948...[/font]
The JEws never invaded the Palestinian area. That is where you are making a mistake fed to you by propaganda.No, they teleported there and were warmly welcomed by the people living there.
Hitler came to power because of his promises. However in order to keep them he had to spend huge amounts of money. So where to take this money from?The thing that Hitler probably did steal from Jews were the plans for a beetle. Story could be true or not... but it's not facts (neither is what you said) so there's no confirmation for it.
There was a rich group of citizens that could easily be targeted: Jews.
Nobody harmed you in 1948. The country was British, and you had every opportunity to be part of the plan. However you preferred to sit in your tent with your camels thinking that piece of desert would never be anything else.It was more of a colony considering the fact that Britain could've let it go and found another one in a heartbeat.
Only when you noticed that Israel could manage more than you there came the claims about harm or invasion.
As for not encouraging killing, read your own Quoran.I do read it. A few misinterpreted translations of verses can really f**k up someone's understanding.
No, they teleported there and were warmly welcomed by the people living there.They were living there. You should read up on the post in the beginning explaining that the whole of the area was divided between the people that lived there. In the area were 10% Jews, they got 10% of the land.
The thing that Hitler probably did steal from Jews were the plans for a beetle. Story could be true or not... but it's not facts (neither is what you said) so there's no confirmation for it.Fact is that the possessions of Jews were stolen.
I do read it. A few misinterpreted translations of verses can really f**k up someone's understanding.Not at all. However it is nothing different from the Bible or the Torah, as the mythology used is exactly the same. And as the tribes were already agressive and full of conflicts 3000 years ago, Islam changed nothing in their nature just created more things to fight over.
1. You can state your opinions, but flaming is strictly forbidden. Any flame will be removed with the full post, so even a small flame will remove your point entirely
2. While the conflict has a base in religion, any promotion of religion or reverting to religious texts other than to explain the background is strictly forbidden.
3. Who was where first is not important. Who will be where in the future is.
4. Do not spread any false propaganda. Speak the truth and only your own experience. We can all find real and fake videos on the internet.
5. Try to understand the others. If you have no wish to make peace and understand why others have their opinion, stay out of the topic.
So yeah.. can I be told why I was warned? I don't see any of my posts changed to "Provocation Removed" or some other fancy red message.... I refrained from provoking/flaming... if others failed at that, it's not my fault.
The majority of provocative posts have been moved to another place.Almost impossible in a topic involving a 70 year conflict.
While I credit your effort in exercising some degree of restraint, I would advise you not to be antagonistic in your delivery.
Almost impossible in a topic involving a 70 year conflict.
Sir, if you can't follow the topic rules - why should anyone else?Well Zlatan how about answering my questions to you.
1. You can state your opinions, but flaming is strictly forbidden. Any flame will be removed with the full post, so even a small flame will remove your point entirely.
And guess what, you wrote that yourself :roll:
Provocation removed.Ok sorry plz forgiv plzzzz
Got forum warned for calling someone annoying...
Now either the forum mod got a person problem with me, or he's just being plain over the top. :poke:
1. You can state your opinions, but flaming is strictly forbidden. Any flame will be removed with the full post, so even a small flame will remove your point entirely
Trolling removed. Refer yourself to point 4 of the rules of this topic.
You're joking right? Is this guy serious?
well , I'm sorry then its my bad , everyone got his own information ...
Probably trolling,...
well , I'm sorry then its my bad , everyone got his own information ...
Well you got a false information.no disrespect but we are in different countries so every news or information not the same..
This is what happens when you listen to Hamas media.
Well you got a false information.
This is what happens when you listen to Hamas media.
And Israeli media is any different? Please elaborate on how the post mentioned information is "false".
There was only 1 history. He thought there was 2.everyone have his own history , maybe your right and maybe I'm right
Given that you are able to access the internet (and post here), there is no reason to limit yourself to believing news and "facts" from only one source.
I'm extremely grateful that I was not born into either of those two, so I don't have to deal with this bullshit, or manipulated into believing any religion for that matter.tel me, u think non-religious/godless person will be inspired to pay charity 2 the poor as much as muslim for example????
For the record, when I die. I do not want any sort of burial related to ANY religion, that would be a violation of my last will, just throw the ashes wherever you want or keep it in a box and bury it anywhere NOT related on any religious ground.
As for the war, It will never end for as long as people stick to religion and disregard logic and common sense.
I'm extremely grateful that I was not born into either of those two, so I don't have to deal with this bullshit, or manipulated into believing any religion for that matter.
For the record, when I die. I do not want any sort of burial related to ANY religion, that would be a violation of my last will, just throw the ashes wherever you want or keep it in a box and bury it anywhere NOT related on any religious ground.
As for the war, It will never end for as long as people stick to religion and disregard logic and common sense.
I'm extremely grateful that I was not born into either of those two, so I don't have to deal with this bullshit, or manipulated into believing any religion for that matter.
tel me, u think non-religious/godless person will be inspired to pay charity 2 the poor as much as muslim for example????
to be a muslim u must pay the CHARITY if you are financially able to do this (( if u are not u will receive charity moneys ))
do not be vry close minded like this, what u have done now is created ur own beliefs (( religion )) of being ignorant minded dog that is hater of ALL religion and u think ur religion is the best, what makes u different from the ones that u insult?????
if u were not on the internet ur religion would cause many porblems
there is difference of RELIGIOUS person and non religious, the majority of people are non religious, but religion does not tell them to be non religious, this is a problem with humans and not religion.
were u created by nothing? or were u urself are the creator? Or did u create the universe and all that exist?? no. u have no firm belief.
tel me, u think non-religious/godless person will be inspired to pay charity 2 the poor as much as muslim for example????
to be a muslim u must pay the CHARITY if you are financially able to do this (( if u are not u will receive charity moneys ))
do not be vry close minded like this, what u have done now is created ur own beliefs (( religion )) of being ignorant minded dog that is hater of ALL religion and u think ur religion is the best, what makes u different from the ones that u insult?????
if u were not on the internet ur religion would cause many porblems
there is difference of RELIGIOUS person and non religious, the majority of people are non religious, but religion does not tell them to be non religious, this is a problem with humans and not religion.
were u created by nothing? or were u urself are the creator? Or did u create the universe and all that exist?? no. u have no firm belief.
tel me, u think non-religious/godless person will be inspired to pay charity 2 the poor as much as muslim for example????
to be a muslim u must pay the CHARITY if you are financially able to do this (( if u are not u will receive charity moneys ))
do not be vry close minded like this
what u have done now is created ur own beliefs (( religion )) of being ignorant minded dog
that is hater of ALL religion and u think ur religion is the best, what makes u different from the ones that u insult?????
if u were not on the internet ur religion would cause many porblems
there is difference of RELIGIOUS person and non religious, the majority of people are non religious, but religion does not tell them to be non religious, this is a problem with humans and not religion.
were u created by nothing? or were u urself are the creator? Or did u create the universe and all that exist?? no. u have no firm belief.
You can run around calling people dogs and harass them, but take a jab at your religion and you cry foul.why u have 2 be vry big hater like this. there is no such thing as "" this is the only right religion ""
What is it in that hypocrisy you do not understand?
You seem to believe that you can do whatever the f**k you want to other people but NO ONE can utter a word against you or your "precious" god.
And how the hell could I have created a religion? I don't believe in any of the ones currently existing, and I sure as hell would not want to create one either.
So stop twisting my words.
It's such a shame that I was forced to be baptized into Christianity and have my name entered into the church when I was a baby, really I never asked for it...
And certainly do not want it either. I am my own person, I choose my own way of life. Not something other people want to force me into.
I do not know how and if, who created me. And I'm not interested in knowing that either.
It's entirely pointless to discuss this with someone like you, who twist other peoples words and flames them when they are critical of your belief.
I'm not interested in knowing if some sort of "god" created me.
I'm not interested if god truly exists or not.
I'm not interested in participating in any sort of church or believe in any sort of religion.
I'm not interested in you or anyone else for that matter.
And I'm certainly not interested in your flaming.
I am interested in what I want to do, not what you want me to do or anyone else for that matter.
Is that so hard to get? Of course it is, because you can't accept that people think different.
"Oh gosh lads, someone does not believe in our religion".
"Quick mate, throw a insult at him".
Typical extremist.
How did myths start? Their aim was explaining things man couldn't get, lightings for example. Religion is just a myth, with the aggravating that it is used to control people.The "myth" about God and what Islam says, is actually true.
I would like to mark the meaning of the word "myth". It derives from Greek "mythos" and it is a story told to a passive audience, that will just accept it.
2. While the conflict has a base in religion, any promotion of religion or reverting to religious texts other than to explain the background is strictly forbidden.
It seems you do not know a lot about Islam either, yet argue.
No Peace needed , just give hamas some Weapons and you will see more than what they did last month.
Viva la Vida Palestine , its just a matter of Time. If hammas are terrorists , Che Guevara is ben ladin.
No Peace needed , just give hamas some Weapons and you will see more than what they did last month.Pa;estinian terrorists are not muslims.
Viva la Vida Palestine , its just a matter of Time. If hammas are terrorists , Che Guevara is ben ladin.
Pa;estinian terrorists are not muslims.
No Peace needed , just give hamas some Weapons and you will see more than what they did last month.
Viva la Vida Palestine , its just a matter of Time. If hammas are terrorists , Che Guevara is ben ladin.
Was he hiding a rocket in his Birthday cake?!?!!
May Allah bless him.
Rest In Peace.
I dont believe that for a minute, that's what your media says. That guy doesn't even look like an arab..
There's a completly different story over here.. anyways that area is already known for attacks, I dont see why this situaiton is any different.
People from Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and so on contain white skinned Arabs. Those areas used to be the center civilization of the world in the past, hence many mixed people.
Fair enough, but a picture of someone near a birthday cake still doesn't prove anything.nor having cherries on his cake proves that he wants to fire at them.
Fair enough, but a picture of someone near a birthday cake still doesn't prove anything
Perhaps not, but people still die at the Palestinian state by Israeli military, will you deny this?
I do believe the causes for the killing is justified.
To understand wholly, are you saying that people who passed away including hundreds of innocents is justification?
To understand wholly, are you saying that people who passed away including hundreds of innocents is justification?"Yeah man, it's all cool to kill thousands of Palestinians, it's all justified! But hey! Don't you dare to wound an Israeli, you evil terrorist!"
Wait, so Hamas aren't Terrorists?
I dont believe that for a minute, that's what your media says. That guy doesn't even look like an arab..
There's a completly different story over here.. anyways that area is already known for attacks, I dont see why this situaiton is any different.
I find it appalling that this topic is being used to actively promote propaganda, regardless of side.
Please stick to the point of discussion before this topic loses its point.
I cannot find anything that is going outta the discussion, its all about this occupation.I can.
I can.
To the people posting pictures of dead 'murdered' bodys, your sicko's and should stop..
To the people posting pictures of dead 'murdered' bodys, your sicko's and should stop
Funny how the world is..As I said before, the only thing you see on a picture of a murdered kid is the stupidity of their parents.
If these pictures belonged to an Israeli kid, everyone would have just turn against Palestinians..
Are you high? Wouldn't you also call Israelis terrorists for their war crimes and masscares too?Muslims are peaceful all of them say. So those who kill innocents can not be Muslims.
To call every death a martyr is simply hollowing out the word and an insult to the real martyrs who die for their faith instead of a war without reason.
As I said before, the only thing you see on a picture of a murdered kid is the stupidity of their parents.Well said, if you have to post pictures of dead body's to get another country to feel sorry for your country, then your country is just a failure.
Muslims are peaceful all of them say. So those who kill innocents can not be Muslims.Muslims are peaceful? Judging by the 2 cases of murder I've seen in the UK this year I highly doubt that, 2 Muslim families murdered their kids because of religious reasons. Someone should post pictures of the dead bodies to get a reaction. -.-
To call every death a martyr is simply hollowing out the word and an insult to the real martyrs who die for their faith instead of a war without reason.
Muslims are peaceful all of them say. So those who kill innocents can not be Muslims.no u are wrong, muslim are peaceful .
To call every death a martyr is simply hollowing out the word and an insult to the real martyrs who die for their faith instead of a war without reason.
As I said before, the only thing you see on a picture of a murdered kid is the stupidity of their parents.
1. You can state your opinions, but flaming is strictly forbidden. Any flame will be removed with the full post, so even a small flame will remove your point entirely
2. While the conflict has a base in religion, any promotion of religion or reverting to religious texts other than to explain the background is strictly forbidden.
3. Who was where first is not important. Who will be where in the future is.
4. Do not spread any false propaganda. Speak the truth and only your own experience. We can all find real and fake videos on the internet.
5. Try to understand the others. If you have no wish to make peace and understand why others have their opinion, stay out of the topic.
Which parent would leave their children outide when there is a war going on?
Just interested... Why so?
Which parent would leave their children outide when there is a war going on?
Which parent would let their children fight against tanks?
Which parent would let their children live near a rocket storage?
Only STUPID parents.
Well said, if you have to post pictures of dead body's to get another country to feel sorry for your country, then your country is just a failure.
Did countries under attack by nazi's post pictures of innocent people being gassed and murdered in order to get another countries help? No..
Or they tried but had no success maintaining order of their children rebellious behavior. It's not uncommon for teenagers to rebel against their parents.
Or they tried but had no success maintaining order of their children rebellious behavior. It's not uncommon for teenagers to rebel against their parents.And most teenagers have no brains. See the unban section.
Can someone familiaraze me with the conflict a little bit more?
And by the way, the fact the 17 years old boy died when he had a birthday, doesn't mean he was innocent. You say he went down to "get a cake", which in reality he attacked a soldier after he asked for his I.D, and then drawed a fake gun at him.
Care to substantiate with your source?no need source, you know it happens everyday.
no need source, you know it happens everyday.
How? Do I have a crystal ball that can see into Israel and Palestine or special live video coverage that proves your claim?
Source please, or your post is as good as propaganda.
Muslims are peaceful all of them say. So those who kill innocents can not be Muslims.
What you're saying makes no sense. Yes, Islam is a peaceful religion and asks for nothing but peace between nations, but that does not mean that it tolerates whoever tries to wipe it over.There are Muslims all around Europe. No one is trying to wipe them out (at least not the government) and they do not wage wars in Europe but they still have an aggressive expanding politics. Riots in France, the UK, Germany, Sweden. It's a very simple rule: Two cannot maintain together without one overcoming. Wherever Muslims came, be it during Charlemagne's conquests or today, they always questioned the hand feeding them and despised those who have other beliefs. They feel that their duty is to convert the heretics or heathens, no matter the method. There was no reform in Islam similar to that in Christianity. That's why Christianity is a much more open religion susceptible to various denominations, branches and such.
Just because Islam and Muslims are peaceful, that does not mean they cannot fire back to the war-crimes of their enemy.
You're saying that the kid was killed because of parents' stupidity, how so? Why wouldn't you say the same to the 6 killed Israeli civilians by Hamas, too?
Who are shooting rockets at Israel are completely and would proudly like to say: Muslims; And doing just what their religion asked them to do, fighting back and not just lay down.
Which parent would leave their children outide when there is a war going on?
Which parent would let their children fight against tanks?
Which parent would let their children live near a rocket storage?
Only STUPID parents.
What you're saying makes no sense. Yes, Islam is a peaceful religion and asks for nothing but peace between nations, but that does not mean that it tolerates whoever tries to wipe it over.
Just because Islam and Muslims are peaceful, that does not mean they cannot fire back to the war-crimes of their enemy.
You're saying that the kid was killed because of parents' stupidity, how so? Why wouldn't you say the same to the 6 killed Israeli civilians by Hamas, too?
Who are shooting rockets at Israel are completely and would proudly like to say: Muslims; And doing just what their religion asked them to do, fighting back and not just lay down.
Of course. Parents who do not have the brains to keep their children safe when they know there is an armed conflict going on are at fault.
So technically it's the parents fault?
Of course. Parents who do not have the brains to keep their children safe when they know there is an armed conflict going on are at fault.No parents =/= kids.They aren't stupid,they all just at the moment scared of such rockets.You're totally wrong as my opinion.
No parents =/= kids.They aren't stupid,they all just at the moment scared of such rockets.You're totally wrong as my opinion.
If they really cared about their children's safety and did not want to expose them to rockets, then they could at least move to a safer place and leave the conflict to those who wish to remain involved. I doubt you would continue staying in your current house if armed gangs decided to turn your neighborhood into a recurring battlefield.How about if they doesnt have vehicle whilst there is a war beside them ? they will running to other city all day for avoiding war ? :lol:
It may be hard leaving their homes and some possessions behind, but keep in mind that your most important possession is your life. Without it, everything else you have is of no use to you.
Of course. Parents who do not have the brains to keep their children safe when they know there is an armed conflict going on are at fault.
How about if they doesnt have vehicle whilst there is a war beside them ? they will running to other city all day for avoiding war ? :lol:
israel is now attacking/bombing palestinian media organizations
...and personally I think parents allowing their kids out in rockets fighting against tanks are great parents.
israel is now attacking/bombing palestinian media organizations
Lol.
Really? How about some sources?