Two newbies joined yesterday, one of them today. They became a cop in 2 minutes and then started going all over the server suspecting people for "flaming and rash driving" and then shooting them to death. The Community must not allow them guns [atleast] if they become a cop. There must be a system to regulate it . I lost around 5k guns, but leaving that aside, NEWBIES must not be allowed to get free guns. This is going on from the past few days.We do not need more rules or restrictions. Instead of writing this topic, you could have stepped up and helped the new players.
Prevention of DM is better than cure.
After 2-3 reports went against them, an admin came and started to lecture him, but by seeing admin, they just /qed.
Wow! Welcome to Argonath RPG= Role Playing Game
We do not need more rules or restrictions. Instead of writing this topic, you could have stepped up and helped the new players.
Are you talking about these two boys here :
Why I never get deathmatched by the new players? It's pretty simple, if you don't know how to act with a "non-lifer" player or a new player of course you will see the worst things he can do to you but if you know how to treat him and act like him, he will do nothing to you, we don't need more rules..
Why I never get deathmatched by the new players? It's pretty simple, if you don't know how to act with a "non-lifer" player or a new player of course you will see the worst things he can do to you but if you know how to treat him and act like him, he will do nothing to you, we don't need more rules..
Are you talking about these two boys here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugCN1XvBE0I&feature=youtu.be
Sometimes I use to stand at LS International giving out free deagle to new players.¨
if you know how to treat him and act like him, he will do nothing to you, we don't need more rules..
See the videos i posted before jumping to conclusions? Your words are like "Why i never got attacked by cancer? Cancer can be treated if we be behave with it"The first video is nothing wrong with it, I would do the same if i get shot as these are the procedures.
Your words are like "Why i never got attacked by cancer? Cancer can be treated if we be behave with it"That's not how you read it, cancer can be avoided if you follow certain ways. How can you avoid cancer if you're a big smoker and blame cancer for taking lives of a lot of humans?
#ikhmkolta . This video will be break all your theories and claims that we must interact with them and teach them so that they dont DM.The way you're talking is like you're attacking me or having a street argument here, but you are not. It's clear that you weren't interacting with the player, the only thing you kept writing is "no dm" and "no".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-ZAc9B5C7Q
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :balance: :balance:
The statement of "stop moaning and help them" is pure bullshit. Can't you just agree on the fact that most new players are either ban evaders or people who came from a DM server? FFS you can't help them, you just can't. 1 out of 10 people will agree on being taught the rest will just waste your time and then get back on their DM shit. We need serious restriction on weapon possession for new players and that could be anything.Alright, why Link9rly and the others went well on the server by getting treated good and friendly by the Vendito family?
The first video is nothing wrong with it, I would do the same if i get shot as these are the procedures.DM is a word known by 99.9% of SAMP players, i said no dm continuously because he was hitting me, i didnt have time to write.
The second video is also your fault, what if the player doesn't speak english? You just kept writting "no dm no dm no dm"
DM is a word known by 99.9% of SAMP players, i said no dm continuously because he was hitting me, i didnt have time to write.Yet again, you're proving your attitude by thinking this is a street argument but that's not the case for me.
Thank you next time guys we all will,
/me opens his mouth
/me uses his tongue
/l Deathmatching isn't allowed
/me runs for a car to sit and tell
:app: :app: :app:
Are you talking about these two boys here :What do you expect them to do when you act like a retard, copbaiting, ramming and drive in circles. And then keep on going stabing them with a knife. /gu If you don't wanna die. And when you get in the car and die, you post a video about it? In this case, you are the one that should be punished :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugCN1XvBE0I&feature=youtu.be
The first video is nothing wrong with it, I would do the same if i get shot as these are the procedures.people without knowing English passing English tests? Maybe there is a russian format of test huh?
The second video is also your fault, what if the player doesn't speak english? :gand:
Personally, when i firstly joined the server, I've been warned and banished many times for "dming" without knowing what does it mean, till I attempted to kill CBFasi whom explained to me everything and told me what DM is.
people without knowing English passing English tests? Maybe there is a russian format of test huh?The SAPD exam is easier than writing your own name on the SA:MP box client
Sauron! :janek: Please confer upon me your freezing powers so that i can freeze the deathmatching COPS and teach them some rules of playing or please give me refunds so that there is no loss on my side. :dead:Again, you're proving that you're only here to "win" an argument. If you're acting like a retard to a cop don't expect to get treated like the nurse treat you in hospital. You're always worried about what you are going to loose if he kills you.. :lol:
The SAPD exam is easier than writing your own name on the SA:MP box
Lets teach hackers also then? What do you say? It will be a nice job. You teach IG Hackers and i will teach DDoSSers?I made a car-rain hacker /q the server without any help of any admin. :rofl: Still that's not the point.
Deal? We both will PM then, "Sir this is not a hacking server, please remove your hacks. Sir this is not a DDoSSing server you will get banned if you DDoSS . Please Please dont do this"
:hah:
I made a car-rain hacker /q the server without any help of any admin. :rofl: Still that's not the point.
Upgrade it then. Dont be a hindrance to the betterment of server.
I am with you in that, the SAPD exam should be much harder to prevent any abuse of cops either new players or no.
Passport exam is good enoughNot really, passport exams aren't that helpful to prevent people into deathmatching, I'd suggest instead of that passing the new players to ACA members or making a script that gives a guidance after registering.
No, you're not right!
Anytime when you get DM'ed by new player, you should PM him. If he don't respond, Drop a spam of messages in private, He must listen to it. Next time, He'll not dm you.
As far as I know, that's not possible for some players not to get equiped and other gets.
TEACH THEM WHEN YOU FIND NEW PLAYER, BREAKING RULES.
The statement of "stop moaning and help them" is pure bullshit. Can't you just agree on the fact that most new players are either ban evaders or people who came from a DM server? FFS you can't help them, you just can't. 1 out of 10 people will agree on being taught the rest will just waste your time and then get back on their DM shit. We need serious restriction on weapon possession for new players and that could be anything.Nice vision, punk. I would ban you right away if it was in my hands.
You people pretend to be Argonath lovers but yet you do not support its future(newcomers).
You are all in my hit list :pissed:
Argonath's future won't be ruined by removing the ability of newbies to DM.Would you like to have limitations as a newbie? I bet you wouldn't.
What are you even talking about, dude. There are people who are there to DM you, not anyone has good intentions, nor looking for help. Telling someone not to DM is easy, actually changing his is the difficult part.
Everytime newbie try to DM me, I never used to report them. I always teach them and they always listen to it.
If they keep breaking rules, use /report. But, not the first time they start DMing you.I won't even bother answering to this but just to let you know that answering few questions through public chat does not make you a helper dude. Attention seeker.
Everytime newbie try to DM me, I never used to report them. I always teach them and they always listen to it. If you'll show them attitude, they'll show you more than yours. So, Be friendly to them and then see the results.
I won't even bother answering to this but just to let you know that answering few questions through public chat does not make you a helper dude. Attention seeker.
Do you even believe your own words? :uhm:
I don't think I've ever a helped player through main chat. Have you seen me doing this? Dude, First of all. I always help them while staying with them. Teach them to join duties, teach them to buy whatever..like.
Good luck with your moderator application :lol:
Knew that. That's why I usually keep myself away from this kind of talks.
Indeed, i was thinking the situation with new player DMers was out of our hands. But today, i helped a new player, that had no idea of RPG and was hitting randomly everyone and ramming. In 30 mins, he was like a regular player.Respect ++
Don't blame the new players and say: it can't be helped they will always DM, blame your boredom that hasn't even once motivated you to help a new player, and then see how they will obey the rules. Like when you first joined Argonath, you were the most loyal to the rules player.
Indeed, i was thinking the situation with new player DMers was out of our hands. But today, i helped a new player, that had no idea of RPG and was hitting randomly everyone and ramming. In 30 mins, he was like a regular player.Graduated, my man. :app:
Don't blame the new players and say: it can't be helped they will always DM, blame your boredom that hasn't even once motivated you to help a new player, and then see how they will obey the rules. Like when you first joined Argonath, you were the most loyal to the rules player.
Indeed, i was thinking the situation with new player DMers was out of our hands. But today, i helped a new player, that had no idea of RPG and was hitting randomly everyone and ramming. In 30 mins, he was like a regular player.
Don't blame the new players and say: it can't be helped they will always DM, blame your boredom that hasn't even once motivated you to help a new player, and then see how they will obey the rules. Like when you first joined Argonath, you were the most loyal to the rules player.
We're going off-topic, but people who actually help do not try to tell tell everyone how they did and how much they helped.
We do not need more rules or restrictions. Instead of writing this topic, you could have stepped up and helped the new players.
Umm.. Aren't you not part of the community anymore, Marcel?He's on the forums so no, he's still part of it.
Anyhow, I agree to the OP. Stop hiding behind the outdated shitty vision. Stop throwing it in our faces when it's convenient for you and voiding it when it's not. Strict policy towards this needs to be enforced.
Umm.. Aren't you not part of the community anymore, Marcel?
Umm.. Aren't you not part of the community anymore, Marcel?
obvious trolls and dmers should not define what happens for all new players.It's not the issue of not enough admins, it's that it's hard to stop them before the act is done.
Need for more admins and that is all.
What do you expect them to do when you act like a retard, copbaiting, ramming and drive in circles. And then keep on going stabing them with a knife. /gu If you don't wanna die. And when you get in the car and die, you post a video about it? In this case, you are the one that should be punished :lol:
Read the damn PM's in the begining of the video smart boi.
and secondly , you clearly don't know the SAPD rules.
I simply took a knife and tried to record them "Suspecting" without a warn etc.
Read the damn PM's in the begining of the video smart boi.Tbh I dont give a shit about the PMs in the start. Its not your job to force someone to break a rule, when you are clearly doing it yourself. I clearly know the SAPD rules, most likely more than you will ever know them. And you kept on ramming them, I wouldn't give you a warning either when you act like a fucking retard
and secondly , you clearly don't know the SAPD rules.
I simply took a knife and tried to record them "Suspecting" without a warn etc.
Read the damn PM's in the begining of the video smart boi.
and secondly , you clearly don't know the SAPD rules.
I simply took a knife and tried to record them "Suspecting" without a warn etc.
I just answered the question.
You can only teach new players who are here to play and not to cause shit.
But most of the new players who join the server are directly heading to an ammunation to buy weapons (they know the commands aswell) and start deathmatching - most of them are ban evaders.
I agree that new players can get guns too easy, and them I'm talking about SAPD duty, receiving weapons from regular players or being able to buy weapons.
Therefor, I'd suggest to block their possibilities to go on SAPD duty, receiving weapons or being able to buy weapons for a certain of time or until they receive their passport.
Are you talking about these two boys here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugCN1XvBE0I&feature=youtu.be
No matter how hard you try there is always a way around this and there will be always new players that enter the server in a bid to DM or disrupt the ropleplay of others.
I am not a great one to take advise from considering my current state. But trust me, help others and you will be helped yourself in the near future.
Those who do this will always be the ones who are considered as dedicated candidates for the Moderator position.
I guarantee you 9/10 they will stay.
why a new player should need a gun? Let's not forget you don't need a weapon to roleplay or interact with others.
*Random new player joins*
If possible, remove the money you get after the registration. If they'll have no money, they'll not be able to buy weapons etc.
*Random new player joins*
gets 0 money
asks in /p money
ppl say no money
leaves the server
should be much better if you had to apply for a license to own a gun, and that you should have a very good reason to get oneNah-nah-nah... I guess Dylan is right tho. No gun possesion until you recieve passport.
Why do newbies Dm? Why do they DDoSS? Why do they hack? For FUN.Ddosing is no fun if you don't know who you're going to attack, same for hacking.. So those "ddosers" are just old players who are hating the community or have an issue with someone.
Funnily enough, this isn't a problem in VC:MP. We've never had "welcome" money and the server's running just fine ;)
Nah-nah-nah... I guess Dylan is right tho. No gun possesion until you recieve passport.The best way
Ddosing is no fun if you don't know who you're going to attack, same for hacking.. So those "ddosers" are just old players who are hating the community or have an issue with someone.
You would have got the same treatment from me.
You pull out a knife in public and expect cops to act like kindergarten teachers?
They don't have to warn you if they don't feel like. You already ARE breaking the law by brandishing a weapon. It's up to them whether to suspect or to warn you first.
If possible, remove the money you get after the registration. If they'll have no money, they'll not be able to buy weapons etc.they need money for skin, phone, cb etc
Funnily enough, this isn't a problem in VC:MP. We've never had "welcome" money and the server's running just fine ;)
should be much better if you had to apply for a license to own a gun, and that you should have a very good reason to get one
Seems our RPér turned in to people who can not handle a gun when there is no admin to babysit.
If any player is there to disrupt the game play by DMing you have full permission to serve him with a load of bullets until he quits in shame. Just once they are gone lose your wanted level before continuing.
DMers will always be a problem, and it does not change by limiting those who are there to have fun by RP.
Seems our RPér turned in to people who can not handle a gun when there is no admin to babysit.
If any player is there to disrupt the game play by DMing you have full permission to serve him with a load of bullets until he quits in shame. Just once they are gone lose your wanted level before continuing.
DMers will always be a problem, and it does not change by limiting those who are there to have fun by RP.
Seems our RPér turned in to people who can not handle a gun when there is no admin to babysit.
If any player is there to disrupt the game play by DMing you have full permission to serve him with a load of bullets until he quits in shame. Just once they are gone lose your wanted level before continuing.
DMers will always be a problem, and it does not change by limiting those who are there to have fun by RP.
Seems our RPér turned in to people who can not handle a gun when there is no admin to babysit.Sounds like you just gave permission to initiate Operation: Jericho!
If any player is there to disrupt the game play by DMing you have full permission to serve him with a load of bullets until he quits in shame. Just once they are gone lose your wanted level before continuing.
DMers will always be a problem, and it does not change by limiting those who are there to have fun by RP.
Sounds like you just gave permission to initiate Operation: Jericho!http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=14265.msg173121#msg173121
Dam that's an old operation ayehttp://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=14265.msg173121#msg173121Indeed. It has been used on a couple occasions in SA:MP during times where admins weren't available and hackers were going crazy, but it seems our President has just made that action official! :D
Indeed. It has been used on a couple occasions in SA:MP during times where admins weren't available and hackers were going crazy, but it seems our President has just made that action official! :D
You are right SugarD, I agree with Gandalf if they get really, really, really annoying, we should serve them with a load of bullets. I like helping new players, and I want to try to make people understand not to rulebreak. Gandalf's word is the final, he is The Great Leader of Argonath. Anyone who goes against him needs to be punished.Keep in mind, he means when all other methods have failed. That includes attempting to help them the best you can. Some players DM because they are used to playing GTA in single-player, and don't know what else to do. For those who don't speak English natively, this is even harder. Always give them a chance to learn before you go wild with killing. ;)
Seems our RPér turned in to people who can not handle a gun when there is no admin to babysit.
If any player is there to disrupt the game play by DMing you have full permission to serve him with a load of bullets until he quits in shame. Just once they are gone lose your wanted level before continuing.
DMers will always be a problem, and it does not change by limiting those who are there to have fun by RP.
Does that mean also? Ok ty
Seems our RPér turned in to people who can not handle a gun when there is no admin to babysit.
should be much better if you had to apply for a license to own a gun, and that you should have a very good reason to get oneThis ^
This ^
Or, the posibility that you cant buy any weapons before earned, lets say 30000, or less?
From my point of view.. restrict the weapons for newcomers to a Bat and a 9mm, that's it.
No fun when you are ingame and need to spec/babysit and ban Newcomers as the DM within 5 minutes all due to some AWESOME youtube advertisements.
Or just add a zero to the prices of the weapons :lol:
Should be much better if you had to apply for a license to own a gun, and that you should have a very good reason to get one.
Therefore, I'd suggest to block their possibilities to go on SAPD duty, receiving weapons or being able to buy weapons for a certain of time or until they receive their passport.
I suggest a weapon license.
We do not need more rules or restrictions. Instead of writing this topic, you could have stepped up and helped the new players.Implying they listen 3/4 of the time
That means if it's 3/4 of the new players that listen. 15 new players out of 20 new players are being helped. That's not a bad number at all.How did you come up with that assumption ?
Yes! - this SHOULD happen, I daily run into new players who robs and DM people!
Same as Regulars.
If we follow your logic, let's stop regulars from having weapons too...
Don't forget that new players reproduce what they see from regular members
Regular Players rulebreak on purpose. New players, might just don't understand the cause of their actions. That's why admins, are using tempban and warnings or kicks in cases that require ban.
Or you can help, you and everyone who wants, Making a project which can do both things. That's what i'm talking about.. People just expect things done.
That means if it's 3/4 of the new players that listen. 15 new players out of 20 new players are being helped. That's not a bad number at all.You misread. I was saying his post implies that 3/4 of new players listen, which is not the case.
Don't forget that new players reproduce what they see from regular membersSpeak for yourself.
Seems our RPér turned in to people who can not handle a gun when there is no admin to babysit.You would be very surprised how we've been handling hackers/dmers without admins these days ;)
Just curious and don't know if this has been addressed already but...
Couldn't it be as simple as requiring citizenship (or a license similar to having a vehicle license) to purchase guns from ammunation?
I don't know why people can't just help the new players and show them how to play like they used to do years ago. Maybe then the new people wouldn't misunderstand the gamemode and starting shooting everyone...
In that sense, what would stop the said player from having another player buy weapons for them or them simply going on cop duty?
You're hired, you may start now! :cowboy:I've always helped people that have come to me with questions. :P
Are you talking about these two boys here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugCN1XvBE0I&feature=youtu.be
I hope you realise that mods, vehicle mods, that change your vehicle handling are illegal. And I'm pretty sure no vehicle in SA with the stock handling is able to pull that type of turning, even with e-brake at 0:51
I don't know why people can't just help the new players and show them how to play like they used to do years ago. Maybe then the new people wouldn't misunderstand the gamemode and starting shooting everyone...You people are so f**cking hardheaded it's ridiculous. When was the last time you even logged in, Sugar? When was the last time you tried picking up a misguided new player and teaching him the rules? I don't know about you but I try to go the extra mile to teach a new player proper etiquette regardless if they ask for my advice or not when I see them slipping up.
You people are so f**cking hardheaded it's ridiculous. When was the last time you even logged in, Sugar? When was the last time you tried picking up a misguided new player and teaching him the rules? I don't know about you but I try to go the extra mile to teach a new player proper etiquette regardless if they ask for my advice or not when I see them slipping up.You only proved our point with that post.
A majority of new players don't give two fifths of a fuck about learning our rules and following them even if they are taught the rules directly. Many come on for the sole purpose of death, destruction, and causing chaos, not for roleplay and the community. Many come on and DM and learn that it's not a deathmatch server, then leave - cool! And there are many that come on & are told the rules, then go on to deathmatch and get themselves banned after getting warned/kicked/tempbanned. To disregard the existence of these kinds of players is willful ignorance on your part.
You are naive if you still think nobody is trying to teach new players, and should perhaps try spending more time teaching them yourself (and learning how futile it is in many cases - never stops me from trying before you call me a quitter) instead of pointing fingers. New players are not mentally deficient like you seem to be writing them off as.
Now go ahead and tell me all about how I'm teaching hard-headed trolls the simplest rules possible incorrectly. Hell, I don't even tell a new player how to buy guns until they tell me why they need them. There is no good reason to allow the players that come on to troll and DM for teh lulz to have such easy access to weapons. Guns are for roleplay, right? Then they should prove that they are here to roleplay. Watch how many of those hard-headed DMing trolls immediately leave when they learn they have to actually dedicate a little time to the server before being able to buy guns.
Tired of this community blaming the regulars for every new player's smelly shit. So ungrateful.
A majority of new players don't give two fifths of a fuck about learning our rules and following them even if they are taught the rules directly. Many come on for the sole purpose of death, destruction, and causing chaos, not for roleplay and the community.
You only proved our point with that post.Please elaborate.
A majority of new players don't give two fifths of a fuck about learning our rules and following them even if they are taught the rules directly. Many come on for the sole purpose of death, destruction, and causing chaos, not for roleplay and the community. Many come on and DM and learn that it's not a deathmatch server, then leave - cool! And there are many that come on & are told the rules, then go on to deathmatch and get themselves banned after getting warned/kicked/tempbanned. To disregard the existence of these kinds of players is willful ignorance on your part.
It's an infernus, you can easily do that.
Are you talking about these two boys here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugCN1XvBE0I&feature=youtu.be
you should play Sims.
How exactly is your reply connected with the topic of should newbies be allowed to get weapons?
We got our new moderators for a reason ;)
You only proved our point with that post.
No.
What he did prove is that you talk too much for someone who hardly logs in for once a week. Admit it at once - you hardly even realise what's going on. No wonder, with that activity, I wouldn't either.
Remove the guns and they will still punch and carkill and kamizake etc.
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I really don't know why people want to bring activity up in discussions.
P.S: By the way, I've looked into several of your replies and have come to a conclusion that people like you are a very weighy factor when it comes to why Argonath is expierencing a player-base loss.
P.S: By the way, I've looked into several of your replies and have come to a conclusion that people like you are a very weighy factor when it comes to why Argonath is expierencing a player-base loss.
probably didn't even notice your train is in-game.
Server's getting more and more players daily, with an usual base of about 30+. You are saying that he is one of the 'factors' of the player-base loss, yet all you do is moan about some stuff, probably didn't even notice your train is in-game.
Next time you try acting like a smart-ass. Think about the item you are you are going to post before you submit a post on a topic you probably know nothing about, because I think your posts are a waste of resources, as you would say it.
After 12 pages of useless crap, there is an easy solution.We already do that, does not seem to change their behavior.
/disarm - people with braincells know that it's a roleplay server and that does not mean to murder players.
As for the cops, copban. If the player is here to DM and abuse citizens for fun pointing out the rules will not help. If they are copbannend they can easily get a gun at the ammunation.
So yeah, there are a lot of new players joining everyday, maybe 1 out of 10 knows how to play on a rp server.
We already do that, does not seem to change their behavior.
Well, today i spoted 5 New Officer's, they abused their powers and destroyed any single RolePlay scene.
This must be stopped
Our grievances fall on deaf ears
http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?board=144.0
I don't see any report there from you people complaing. I don't understand how you can expect anything to be done?
People want to be able to play without having to hop out of game every ten minutes and spend another fifteen uploading screenshots and writing a detailed description. They're here to play and get away from the paperwork they have in school, not to do even more of it (Unless they are SAPD or FBI, ofcourse). Either the report system has to be simplified and much more convenient or this link has to stop being shoved down peoples throats as a comeback for a legitimate concern.
Either the report system has to be simplified and much more convenient or this link has to stop being shoved down peoples throats as a comeback for a legitimate concern.
Go make it simplified for them then if that's the case. Better yet ask CBF to simplify it as he's the one that set it up as it is.
People want to be able to play without having to hop out of game every ten minutes and spend another fifteen uploading screenshots and writing a detailed description. They're here to play and get away from the paperwork they have in school or work, not to do even more of it (Unless they are SAPD or FBI, ofcourse). Either the report system has to be simplified and much more convenient or this link has to stop being shoved down peoples throats as a comeback for a legitimate concern.You are on a role-play server, work is around rather often here, if you wanna go fuck around and 'escape' stuff, you could join servers with less restrictions, like Paruni or Stunt.
Well, today i spoted 5 New Officer's, they abused their powers and destroyed any single RolePlay scene.
This must be stopped
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