fireman duty is the most lucrative known means of making money on the server, as players have not discovered many of the other methods that have been added. Give it some time.
The economy is not up and running as it should be, yet and therefore give it time before jumping to any conclusions.
We have tried to get a change of both the hospital-spawn thing and firemen thing. But since you seem to believe so hard on your ideas for what's best, there is no point of trying to get things changed.
Hope there will be a change with the ARUN thing.
We have tried to get a change of both the hospital-spawn thing and firemen thing. But since you seem to believe so hard on your ideas for what's best, there is no point of trying to get things changed.As I mentioned there as well, our first concern is to ensure that all features we planned are working.
Hope there will be a change with the ARUN thing.
meaning we might as well close SAMP fully and move towards new projects.So.. GTA 5 is pretty cool on Xbox, let's hope it will be on PC too eh'?
People just cant deal with the RS5 account reset..
Don't start this all over again, not even 5 percent of the 'complaints' are about the loss of money or cars.
Hello all.
I'd just like to remind everyone to take a moment to thank your developers, scripters, and admins. All of their work is for zero pay (and no special privileges apart from the responsibilities of their office) and they also had real lives to attend to.
So give thanks. It may not seem like much, but it's a way of giving back to your community by showing appreciation for those who put in their time to give you a better gaming experience. - JDC
Guess which comment was from Edge.
Under Zaila's.For the love of god read the title of the topic. What part of "Let's get real" don't you understand? The "Get" or "Real"
100k for prize?
For the love of god read the title of the topic. What part of "Let's get real" don't you understand? The "Get" or "Real"
What the f**k are you on?Adderal and antibiotics, why?
Guess which comment was from Edge.
People just cant deal with the RS5 account reset..Well I'm gonna be honest, I can't deal with it. I miss having money to always roll around with heavy armor and heavy weaponry in fancy cars, lol.
Guess which comment was from Edge.I was about to say that, haha.
Guess which comment was from Edge.
Well I'm gonna be honest, I can't deal with it. I miss having money to always roll around with heavy armor and heavy weaponry in fancy cars, lolTough luck.. xD
Tough luck.. xDYeah man. I can't even afford a heavy armor as of now, haha.
Yeah man. I can't even afford a heavy armor as of now, haha.Well I tried RPing a hobo, somehow got robbed 2k, not sure how that works, but I feel you bruh.
Guess which comment was from Edge.:lol:
Well I tried RPing a hobo, somehow got robbed 2k, not sure how that works, but I feel you bruh.That's how it goes in the city of Argonath boy.
RS5 is a fresh new revolutionary system made from scratch, with alot of amazing features and functions. All of these was made with Gandalf's ideas and also with our own, because we had a suggestions topic for a long time. You can clearly see that it's a great improvement in the script system compared to the one we had before(RS4), this project exists thanks to the almost daily hardwork of the staff members, server scripters and mappers.Everything you said stands, but RS5 is simply not functional without many people and without them having a lot of cash. If it's not functional, there's no fun, if there's no fun, people leave.
This new script system gives us many opportunities to do almost all that we can imagine (with the certain regulations, of course) and it's really sad to see that alot of people is wasting the chance to try it only because they didn't wanted to change. Changes are necesary!, It's called progress and that's what the server is doing; Are you people refusing the change only for a few virtual bucks? Because there's no other reason to not be playing.
You can say that the script has some bugs and yes, it does have, RS4 had bugs too but hey, nothing is perfect and remember that a bunch of people are sitted over there, doing everything to fix those problems.
You can say that is very hard to understand and well, yes, it might be a bit complicated but it'll be only at the start!, Everything that is new is hard to understand in the first try, but with the time you'll get used to it. If it's not hard then is not good. Also, remember that the system is not fully done, so we don't know what surprises we can get! You people are going to miss all of that only for a data reset? Disappointing... Oh well.
In my personal opinion about RS5, apart from the minor bugs, it's simply awesome and i can't wait for this to be completed. I know that it'll be great and i would like to thank to all the team for putting alot of effort on this project that it was made for all of us to enjoy and have fun without expecting any reward. Thank you so much and keep up the good work.
Everything you said stands, but RS5 is simply not functional without many people and without them having a lot of cash. If it's not functional, there's no fun, if there's no fun, people leave.I don't see how there's a need of extremely rich people for the server to be functional. I'm not going to comment on the second statement since it's based on a pointless concept which somehow links functionality to money.
having money to always roll around with heavy armor and heavy weaponry in fancy carsThen we could say the reset was a success.
I don't see how there's a need of extremely rich people for the server to be functional. I'm not going to comment on the second statement since it's based on a pointless concept which somehow links functionality to money.When u have 200k on RS5 u are considered extremely rich.
Your assertion 'simply' doesn't make sense
When u have 200k on RS5 u are considered extremely rich.
Let's take an example of trucking system.
Why is noone a trucker ? Maybe because noone owns a bizz ?
Why noone owns a bizz ? Maybe because noone has the cash ?
If noone is a trucker people are not able to rob a truck on it's way to deliver the stock.
Then let's take mechanic system.
People would rather run from LS-LV than pay 400$ for a repair.
Then let's take drug system.
You can't sell drug to anybody, because noone has the cash to buy the drugs you want to sell.
Then let's take medic system.
There's still no food system so the only way to get healed is by medic, but people would rather jump off a cliff and suicide which will lead them to play a lottery of spawning in random hospital which will again lead to rage quitting if you spawn 3 light years from LS or celebration if you spawn in LS.
That's how many features unfunctional because of a low ammount of cash ? 5, 6 ?
On the other hand, here's my suggestion: Give people their National Heritages (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=86523.0[/URL) and give people some cash to buy a car. Then let the magic of RS5 begin.
Then we could say the reset was a success.Say whatever you want. Rich mobster is the only role I actually enjoy playing.
Well I tried RPing a hobo
somehow got robbed 2k
Say whatever you want. Rich mobster is the only role I actually enjoy playing.
What's stopping you from playing that role now?
Rich mobsterSelf explanatory...
You have absolutely no clue about the amounts of money that people already have. 100,000$ in the bank is already a frequent sight for the majority of the server.That is actually...bad :rolleyes:
:lol:People who have 100k are no-lifers (I apologize if you find yourself in this group, but you should really ask yourself some things). Sleeping on the server only for a firemission which often gets bugged to earn 1-2k, just lol.
Oh boy.. You have absolutely no clue about the amounts of money that people already have. 100,000$ in the bank is already a frequent sight for the majority of the server. Not to mention several players who will soon be able to boast of being millionaires. See not everybody abandons the ship when the time comes to actually do something.
Medic services are used frequently. Suiciding to regain hp is not allowed and I'm happy to say that people don't choose to risk it.
Mechanic services are also used frequently, but of course, they will be used much more in the near future as more and more people buy their own vehicles.
What you're asking for is free money. Not going to happen :lol:
get to work!
People who have 100k are no-lifersOr people who try hard to get what they had in RS4. If you are going to ignore the fact that you're too lazy to actually get the money you have no right to tell others that they are no lifers for doing something that you are too lazy to.
Once you understand that everything if flipping around money (almost whole script) and that without money there's no fun, come back to me.Like I said alredy, I tried RPing a hobo and got robbed 2k, I had fun roleplaying, I had fun losing money, *insert provocation towards the group the user is in that would get censored by admins anyway* so I understand why you wouldn't get it.
Or people who try hard to get what they had in RS4. If you are going to ignore the fact that you're too lazy to actually get the money you have no right to tell others that they are no lifers for doing something that you are too lazy to.True, i dont want to spend 10 hours to earn 5k, because that doesnt make any sense.
Like I said alredy, I tried RPing a hobo and got robbed 2k, I had fun roleplaying, I had fun losing money, *insert provocation towards the group the user is in that would get censored by admins anyway* so I understand why you wouldn't get it.
Don't compare me to someone who had 100k, cotage and blista compact in RS4 and who didn't get highly affected by the restart.I know exactly what you had. There are players who used to have much more than you and are still playing. They aren't even whining, unlike some of the other examples we have.
I'm asking for the cash i earned in past 3 years, for the cash i spent hardwork and shit ton of time, that's not a free cash.There's no way you will get your money back if you're too lazy to work for it.
RS5 without many players and money is not functional.:lol:
The ammount of different RPs they can do is limited by the cash:lol: RP is not limited by cash in Argonath. Perhaps you're mixing servers already?
people want to have visual objects and stuff.Of course they do. Plenty of people already have those 'visual objects'.
We all know that script will work in the future, but untill we reach 'that' future, people will already be gone.We're gaining new players daily, the activity only goes up. What we lost, we will regain.
Once you understand that everything if flipping around money (almost whole script) and that without money there's no fun, come back to me.:lol: Are you sure you're talking about Argonath?
Fair enough, I don't understand your frusturation as I'm easily entertained, I literally laughed for three minutes when Leon was AFK on a tree and I was going
Let me rephrase it then for you: The ammount of different RPs and fun you can have are limited by money, which will make you bored after 3rd time of doing same RP in a row.
I am okay with RS5, atleast with most aspects of it, however, there are few features that players simply don't agree with and want to be changed, however, either you, or developers, keep rejecting any change that players want.Link where anything is rejected, 'cause they already said that in 6 months time they will look through ARUN boards for suitable ideas.
Oh, and I still think Argonath would be better off focusing on MTA:SA instead of SA:MP :|
Link where anything is rejected, 'cause they already said that in 6 months time they will look through ARUN boards for suitable ideas.Players mentality: What isn't accepted immediatly is rejected automatically.
I know exactly what you had. There are players who used to have much more than you and are still playing. They aren't even whining, unlike some of the other examples we have.Just no :lol:
There's no way you will get your money back if you're too lazy to work for it.
:lol:
:lol: RP is not limited by cash in Argonath. Perhaps you're mixing servers already?
Of course they do. Plenty of people already have those 'visual objects'.
We're gaining new players daily, the activity only goes up. What we lost, we will regain.
:lol: Are you sure you're talking about Argonath?
Fair enough, I don't understand your frusturation as I'm easily entertained, I literally laughed for three minutes when Leon was AFK on a tree and I was goingDude, you have some serious problems.
/me pokes the monkey
.. and I laughed for like.. a while.. I don't need much to entertain myself, but doing the same RP three times in a row? As far as I recall the sad excuse for a mafia you're leading has been doing the same bank robbery, kidnapping, robbing, dm ... all the time, seems like you didn't get bored from it, and if you hate things that happen three times in a row; how come you constantly went to a gun shop , got guns and killed people, and died and did it again, I went weeks playing 5 hours a day just driving around in a white car doing absolutely f**king nothing and was just entertained by the chat.. I mean from a observers stand point your argument makes sense, but the amount of time I have seen you in a roleplay scenario disproves your point. You go call me Honigsenf and I'll ask him if he is tired of RPing a hotdog seller for the past 'three' years. RP is not limited by money, it's limited by your imagination, neither is fun limited, it's all how you want to react to things. You lost your money? Time to start a new RP characters that roleplays a hobo, Great new roleplay ideas YAY
I am okay with RS5, atleast with most aspects of it, however, there are few features that players simply don't agree with and want to be changed, however, either you, or developers, keep rejecting any change that players want.You're totally right.
Oh, and I still think Argonath would be better off focusing on MTA:SA instead of SA:MP :|
Oh, and I still think Argonath would be better off focusing on MTA:SA instead of SA:MP :|
Since i have spoke to few mafia leaders and since the mafia life is dead, it's just disappointing that mafia people are fighting over firetruck and that they cannot earn any cash illegaly (drugs).Because having an HQ and 10 cars is going to allow you to make money and have so much mafia roleplay. Makes sense.
Mafia life is deeply broken and i dont want it to go deeper, i suggest devs, scripters, that for the start they as soon as possible set mafia headquarters and to set at least 10 cars in mafia color around HQ which will be only accessible by "_<mafia name>". This is a suggestion because we can't even act as mafia, same as we cant earn cash as a mafia.
Because having an HQ and 10 cars is going to allow you to make money and have so much mafia roleplay. Makes sense.
However, I don't see how you don't have any way to earn cash illegally. Hold up and pickpocket firemen if you want. But you don't, what you do want is a way where an army of semi-afk players sit at drug spots, then bring you the drugs, which you will sell for profit (or won't, 'cause you can't earn profit..).
Maybe wait for the rest of the scripted features to be released before moaning there's nothing to do, it's been promised that features will come together to create a better experience, so yeah. And if not, that's when the suggestions will start to get scripted, so you have the opportunity to present viable options for money making, instead of just being a Negative Nancy.
PS: Mr.Wannabie admin and similar are pleased not to answer because there's no need to hear opinions from people who write and then think about the things they wrote.
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Well I can tell you he is right and I'm no wanna be. What's in RS5 largely supports growth and more forms of capital gain for mafias. If your to blind to see those supports than that is the failure of your own imagination, not anyone else. I know specifically I developed multiple features which had this in mind and Gandalf had mentioned specifically when I asked him "why this"; he explained simply as "to give mafias a chance".U cant pickpocket, everyone stores money in wallet.
U cant pickpocket, everyone stores money in wallet.
U cant hijack a truck, noone is trucker.
U cant do drugs to earn cash, u can do drugs to heal or die.
Also none of the above is mafia business, mafia has no chance, mafia is gone, mafia life is dead.
Either way, it's the journey not the destination.
they cannot earn any cash illegaly (drugs).
Mafia life is deeply broken and i dont want it to go deeper,
The only dead RP type is "Drug Cartel" as there is no way to earn money through drugs.As well as the creative "Shoot everything that disagrees with us" 'RP' type, 'cos you'll just run dry in about 10 minutes.
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Once you learn how features work, come back to me, or shall i explain to you ?
Mobsters are nothing but civilians that do crime on the side for extra money, you can RP as one by acting like a civilian, and extorting, racketeering, demanding protection, trafficking on the side, you don't have to be obsessed with drug dealing, and have 7812637125612 cars all painted in the same colour to be a mobster.If it's not dead, where are you on the server and Sforzas ? Where ?
"Mafia RP" isn't dead, it's the creativity and stupid stereotypes made by most groups that make it look like it's dead.
The only dead RP type is "Drug Cartel" as there is no way to earn money through drugs.
You know I was a developer for RS5? You wanna try and tell me how things work? LOL Your funny.Im pretty sure i redirected the post to someone else, the guy that answers on every single topic.
Im pretty sure i redirected the post to someone else, the guy that answers on every single topic.
If it's not dead, where are you on the server and Sforzas ? Where ?
We all know that everything will work in future, but mafia needs cash now, not in 1year.
Perhaps you should have been more clear, there is more than just Pingster in this topic. However also keep in mind Pingster was our number one open beta tester. I'm certain he knows more than most players do about RS5. How much did you contribute in open beta?That's the whole point of what pingster is doing and then you warn me because people call him
If the mafia need cash now, why don't they start working in unity to start bringing in the money instead of sitting on the forums saying they have no cash?Did you even read what i wrote ? There's NO WAY for mafia to EARN cash.
The only way money will come into the economy is if you work for it as no cash will just be handed to groups or individuals.
If the mafia need cash now, why don't they start working in unity to start bringing in the money instead of sitting on the forums saying they have no cash?
The only way money will come into the economy is if you work for it as no cash will just be handed to groups or individuals.
Did you even read what i wrote ? There's NO WAY for mafia to EARN cash.
We dont want to be firemans as mafia men.
but everything i say is denied and i get attacked, like now.
We're in a very RP filled place, away from people like yourself, the problem isn't RS5, it's you.Then you wanna explain to others how you earned any cash (which u didnt) trough RPing mafia man.
Tony Sforza telling people what they don't want to hear since f**king 2006.
And what are Mafia known to do? Extort others.For a difference of you, im not a man who will use others to gain advantage. Me, as a leader, will help others, not use them as slaves.
Figure that out and you can have some easy income.
How does it feel? Why do you think I'm not a scripter anymore? We got very little appreciation and constantly shit on and told our months, nearly years of work was a waste of time. I got sick of it; I decided I was done and needed to change focus on my life and that I didn't need it anymore. Think about where the dagger was pointing before it was at you.I appreciate your work and i'm always open for a suggestion because i want it be better. But every my suggestion is attacked.
For a difference of you, im not a man who will use others to gain advantage. Me, as a leader, will help othersSome mafia you are lol, I thought that was your job, use others to gain advantage.
Then you wanna explain to others how you earned any cash (which u didnt) trough RPing mafia man.
+some ignorant bullshit that is humiliating myself to the entire community
People appreciate work, but they dislike it. They want changes, you dont give them it, they dislike more.
IMO, the development team should focus a bit more on bug-fixing then updating the server with more features.
Some mafia you are lol, I thought that was your job, use others to gain advantage.That just shows what kind of person you are. They are all my friends and we run mafia life together. We ride together, we die together.
I already told you how mafias that properly RP make their money, scroll up, I don't get paid to teach, consider my post charityNoone ever earned more than 100k trough RPing, even if he did, mafia doesnt need 100k, it needs millions. So spare me and keep your awesomeness since fuking 2006.
IMO, the development team should focus a bit more on bug-fixing then updating the server with more features.
Some mafia you are lol, I thought that was your job, use others to gain advantage.first you think mafias pickpocket ppl and now this? watch some more mafia movies m8
No worries, he's awesome since f**king 2006, he can flame others.
Unfortunately bugs can only be fixed if the development team are informed about the bugs.
So what is needed is players willing to test the features and post bug reports.
first you think mafias pickpocket ppl and now this? watch some more mafia movies m8
That just shows what kind of person you are. They are all my friends and we run mafia life together. We ride together, we die together.What
And what are Mafia known to do? Extort others.
Figure that out and you can have some easy income.
Yeah these people are mostly complaining beacuse of money and property,other things are not complained that muchThis.
Yeah these people are mostly complaining beacuse of money and property,other things are not complained that muchYou're totally right. :uhm:
Scripters you all done a good job, don't give up! ALL the problems that RS5 have, you can fix them all, I know it! So I want to say thanks to all the developers who contributed to make RS5 what it's, also Gandalf. Please keep up your hard and excellent work :bananarock:!I agree here! :D (Sorry for late post with this, I just discovered this topic xD)
first you think mafias pickpocket ppl and now this? watch some more mafia movies m8
Yeah these people are mostly complaining beacuse of money and property,other things are not complained that much
So Aca and me got warned and Tony who called us retards isnt ? Why ? Aren't we all even here ?
Noone ever earned more than 100k trough RPing, even if he did, mafia doesnt need 100k, it needs millions. So spare me and keep your awesomeness since fuking 2006.
Thanks for the summary. I'm sure those who have trouble reading will be pleased.By the theory that we're all even here, if we got +15 warning, Tony should get one too.
As I told Aca; this topic is going quickly and we're moving as fast as we can to ensure everyone behaves properly.
I didnt extort others, i am the one who gave my men millions. That's me since f**king 2010.
Please do explain to me why you need millions to RP as a mafia? xD
Noone ever earned more than 100k trough RPing, even if he did, mafia doesnt need 100k, it needs millions. So spare me and keep your awesomeness since fuking 2006.
Please do explain to me why you need millions to RP as a mafia? xDTo have fancy car, to have weapons, to pay people, to have big ass mansion, to be able to have shit ton of drugs, to have hot chicks, to own a casino, because that's where the fun lays.
A real and a professional mafia/gang/family/clan, doesn't need money to ROLEPLAY it only needs some imagination and a full control of your ( plural ) actions.We're talking about MAKING MONEY as MAFIA, not ROLEPLAYING as MAFIA.
To have fancy car, to have weapons, to pay people, to have big ass mansion, to be able to have shit ton of drugs, to have hot chicks, to own a casino, because that's where the fun lays.
When you have your own mafia and when you lead it more than 1 year, you will understand me.
We're talking about MAKING MONEY as MAFIA, not ROLEPLAYING as MAFIA.You can do both, however, widen the horizon of your imagination.
PS: No need to change font to get some attention.
I guess there's another reason why Tony is a widely respected mobster and legend, and you are not...Legends are Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Acika. Tony ? Never.
Those who cannot get with the change? They get left behind. Now Acika, either you adjust like the rest of us, or get left in the dust.
You know why successful mafias have those? Because they worked for it, instead of sitting on their asses and moaning about a script change. The choice is yours.Is this some kind of a quiz ?
We're talking about MAKING MONEY as MAFIA, not ROLEPLAYING as MAFIA.Then there's nothing to speak about...
PS: No need to change font to get some attention.
Legends are Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Acika. Tony ? Never.Aren't you modest, by who's standards is this?
Legends are Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Acika. Tony ? Never.
Legends are Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Acika. Tony ? Never.
Is this some kind of a quiz?
We're talking about MAKING MONEY as MAFIA, not ROLEPLAYING as MAFIA.
To have fancy car, to have weapons, to pay people, to have big ass mansion, to be able to have shit ton of drugs, to have hot chicks, to own a casino, because that's where the fun lays.
When you have your own mafia and when you lead it more than 1 year, you will understand me.
Aren't you modest, by who's standards is this?Sorry, if someone else asks me i might consider answering him. You're just exaggerating with posthunting.
You're just exaggerating with posthunting.
I love how you put yourself in there. I think the list goes: Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Tony. You can't even tap into a bit of imagination to make money in RS5 something people have already done without being on fire duty.Tony ? He's such a funny guy who's uncapable of running a mafia on his own. When Miami left he broke, when girl from Blaze left, he broke. Now he's hiding behind Al.
We're talking about MAKING MONEY as MAFIA, not ROLEPLAYING as MAFIA.I am talking about this.
PS: No need to change font to get some attention.
mafia doesnt need 100k, it needs millions.P.s open your eyes I write like THIS since while ago. Oh yeah to get someone's intention act like a dog.
60% of the people viewing this topic:After all those years you still didnt catch. Where is Acika, there's a party.
Legends are Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Acika.(http://dl.dropbox.com/s/pyqm7ykmxizo851/02111213546.jpeg)
Sorry, if someone else asks me i might consider answering him. You're just exaggerating with posthunting.Is that your excuse for being unable to answer the tough questions Mr Wannabe Admin Posthunter Benefit Hunter Replying To Every Topic Guy asks you? How petty.
Money is not where the fun is. The fun is in the R O L E P L A Y! EVERYBODY GIVE ME AN AMEN!!Amen, good man, amen. Still remember the random encounters where we end up showing off engines of random vehicles, lol.
Im sorry i can't keep up answering to everyone. I hope you wont be angry if i dont answer to you.
Tony ? He's such a funny guy who's uncapable of running a mafia on his own. When Miami left he broke, when girl from Blaze left, he broke. Now he's hiding behind Al.
Legends are Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Acika. Tony ? Never.(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3131567/Boris/wellfk.jpeg)
Amen, good man, amen. Still remember the random encounters where we end up showing off engines of random vehicles, lol.
I don't get angry easily, don't worry. No hard feelings.I know you're good friends, but i met him in game few times and showed him who's the number one.
He is a funny guy who is very capable of doing extraordinary things including helping in leading a nearly perfectly pure RP group (Blaze) which has had more criminal-police RPs (without combat shitguns) than any other group to date. I think you under estimate him.
Tony ? He's such a funny guy who's uncapable of running a mafia on his own. When Miami left he broke, when girl from Blaze left, he broke. Now he's hiding behind Al.
Im sorry i can't keep up answering to everyone. I hope you wont be angry if i dont answer to you.
After all those years you still didnt catch. Where is Acika, there's a party.
I would not consider myself to be leading a group for a year if I was banned for more than half of that year.
I would not consider myself to be leading a group for a year if I was banned for more than half of that year.That's what you people don't understand. That's the real power, that's the spirit.
I know you're good friends, but i met him in game few times and showed him who's the number one.
Maybe that's the reason why he became WS ?
And what changes to you propose which doesn't involve giving items to groups and wealth that they have not worked for within RS5 yet.A good start would be fixing drug system. If you don't want to give mafia their HQ, cars and stuff, give them a way to earn cash like a mafia, not like firemen.
A good start would be fixing drug system. If you don't want to give mafia their HQ, cars and stuff, give them a way to earn cash like a mafia, not like firemen.
A good start would be fixing drug system. If you don't want to give mafia their HQ, cars and stuff, give them a way to earn cash like a mafia, not like firemen.
How exactly do it needs to be changed?He said "fixing" it. Not changing it. :)
He said "fixing" it. Not changing it. :)
He said "fixing" it. Not changing it. :)
Nothing about it is bugged. It works fine as is. He is actually talking about changing it. In his context fixing isn't bugs, but fixing the concept behind it.I am banned and I might be wrong. Last time I was on the server, inventory wasn't saved.
True, i dont want to spend 10 hours to earn 5k, because that doesnt make any sense.In 10 actual hours it's quite possible to earn upwards of 50k on the fire missions if you know what you're doing and you work as a team.
U cant pickpocket, everyone stores money in wallet.To be fair, there wasn't any way for mafias to make money in RS3, but we still existed.
U cant hijack a truck, noone is trucker.
U cant do drugs to earn cash, u can do drugs to heal or die.
Also none of the above is mafia business, mafia has no chance, mafia is gone, mafia life is dead.
Drugs are made only to be used for healing effect from which you can die too. By re-selling drugs you only lose cash if you sell on market. You still cant sell to player as they dont have cash, which will maybe work in 6month or not as the man who bought all drugs wont be able to sell to anyone except to market in which he will lose big ammount of money.There is a mechanism to sell drugs out of the server in RS5, like Cofi did in RS4 (?).
Did you even read what i wrote ? There's NO WAY for mafia to EARN cash.Well shit, that's Argonath man. Running a mafia costs money. That's been true for years. Just be happy that you get to farm fire missions instead of farming as a cop.
We dont want to be firemans as mafia men.
That just shows what kind of person you are. They are all my friends and we run mafia life together. We ride together, we die together.No shit, but not everyone in the mafia is the same rank. You need goons to do your dirty work - it sucks but that's how it is. The higher ranked members organise the more complex operations, while you get the lower ranks to farm money, however they can at the time.
Legends are Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Acika. Tony ? Never.yea thanks
I think the list goes: Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Tony.(http://i43.tinypic.com/3vp5z.png)
And for your information i didnt run mafia with 10k, i worked for 1 year to get few millions,So what's the problem?
I am banned and I might be wrong. Last time I was on the server, inventory wasn't saved.Now they added save changes.
Is food going to be returned to stores?I'd like to know this as well.
If so, what would be the motivation for players to gather drugs, or anyone else to buy them?I swear that I read somewhere that RS5 will have a system like RS4 where drugs can be bought at a high price "by the server" to simulate actual buyers.
I swear that I read somewhere that RS5 will have a system like RS4 where drugs can be bought at a high price "by the server" to simulate actual buyers.There is a drug market place where leaders can sell drugs.
Why is this still a topic of discussion? Guys... It ain't gonna change. The accounts were reset, the SAMP server is different, please, just live with it.well said Al
Now about the comments made here, I'm just gonna say: were we the first mafia RP group in Argonath? Yes. Is it crucial or do we feel bigger about it? No. It's just an historical fact. No, Tony doesn't hide behind me. Some closedowns were strategical, I can promise you that. But we created this group back in 06 so that we could all have fun, and provide fun times to the users of the community. Is that what's happening here? No. It only happens in-game unfortunately. I regret that some should feel these things in such a personal way. It's a game. We want to have fun with it, not to discuss it until the hell freezes...
About mafia roleplay: Yes you can roleplay mafias with low ammounts of money. The Sicilian Cosa Nostra for instants; they rely on other types of influence to "get the job done". Now the Italian-American mafia, they're different. They're the ones with fancy cars and mansions. It's legit people. Is there a better one? Of course not, they are just different. And that's what we all need to understand. For a long time I mean to say this in a topic reply: We are different when it comes to the RP, but that's only in-game! We don't need to take it in a personal level (yes I made my mistakes, but I learned with them). Let's just respect each other AIGHT HOMIES?
Peace oooooooooooooooooooooooooooout
Legends are Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Acika. Tony ? Never.The list is missing Klaus (sure he isn't playing in SAMP, but Argonath still). He's been running the best criminal group of VCMP since 2008 so I guess he deserves to be in the list.
The list is missing Klaus (sure he isn't playing in SAMP, but Argonath still). He's been running the best criminal group of VCMP since 2008 so I guess he deserves to be in the list.I totally agree.
Alright, enough of this discussion now.
If i see any more posts on this matter after my post, i will delete them. This topic was created for another purpose.
Legends are Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Acika. Tony ? Never.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxRfTLQ-6RE
I totally agree.Don't take it as if I want to agree with the rest of the list you put up, I more like Teddy's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxRfTLQ-6RE
Don't take it as if I want to agree with the rest of the list you put up, I more like Teddy's.:lol:
Mario, JayL, Patton and the rest of the MTA:SA team dedicate a great deal of time and effort into MTA:SA. I think you under estimate their efforts and accomplishments.
I just said that SA:MP would be better off gone and focusing on MTA:SA instead
Oh, and I still think Argonath would be better off focusing on MTA:SA instead of SA:MP :|
Why would we kill off a server anyways to change focus look @ MTA:VC.. it's still around yet we've shifted focus away from it.Mm... I don't understand this :/, why you're talking about MTA:VC? From what server you've shifted focus away? MTA:VC?
official mafias should no longer be officialWhy should new scripts change the status that has been achieved over years of efforts?
there are dozens of new players that will take your place and will form official groups.Oh really? How are you so sure?
Oh really? How are you so sure?Im sure and you are gonna see.
Im sure and you are gonna see.Actually, none of the current official families had been crying about losing millions.
Im sure and you are gonna see.Okay, let me remind you that the youngest official SAMP group exists since 2009. Hope it rings a bell.
Actually, none of the current official families had been crying about losing millions.
Look at Ancelotti and Gvardia, they had over the 100 millions, and no any complaints.
You need to think before you post or read.
i might be wrong because generalising on all the mafias is not a right thingNo comment man, but seriously, do you even read what i post?
Okay, let me remind you that the youngest official SAMP group exists since 2009. Hope it rings a bell.
Okay, let me remind you that the youngest official SAMP group exists since 2009. Hope it rings a bell.
Okay, let me remind you that the youngest official SAMP group exists since 2009. Hope it rings a bell.You told yourself, we are in 2014, its only about time.
What about the mass moaning of acika in the previous posts uh?Man, you gotta check official list then
And i dont see any mafia on the server uh?
And i dont see any mafia on the server uh?
How about you hold your horses and wait untill RS5 is fully complete to see mafias jumping around in joy again?yeah.
How about you hold your horses and wait untill RS5 is fully complete to see mafias jumping around in joy again?Helping finding bugs would be a great help too, wouldnt it?
Legends are Cofi, Miami, Nitrox, Romeo, Acika. Tony ? Never.You missed Eugene there...
You missed Eugene there...I missed a few maybe ;)
You missed Eugene there...
How about you hold your horses and wait untill RS5 is fully complete to see mafias jumping around in joy again?
Actually, none of the current official families had been crying about losing millions.Not true. I have seen some complaints on reset from official group(s).
Look at Ancelotti and Gvardia, they had over the 100 millions, and no any complaints.
You need to think before you post or read.
Not true. I have seen some complaints on reset from official group(s).Exactly.
<cool story>Such wise words. Thank you for opening our minds and showing us the path :janek:
For your information and for everyone elses who are shitting on everything i say ideas that Mafia HQs become National Heritages and to be assigned to groups is not mine, but Gandalfs. So before you come to me and act smartass again, atleast go get some information and think carefully about everything you say, because all these times you were shitting on Gandalfs idea.
Official families will get a state funded headquarter.
Exactly.Yeah so? They won't get their HQ if they don't work for it.
Helping finding bugs would be a great help too, wouldnt it?
Official groups are official for their example RP and rule abiding behavior, not beta testing, it's a matter of choice and time if one wishes to report bugs or not.Oh sure, im sorry but i dont see any difference between a normal player and an rp member, but if you dont want to help feel free to sit back and watch the boat sinking
Oh sure, im sorry but i dont see any difference between a normal player and an rp member, but if you dont want to help feel free to sit back and watch the boat sinking
Anyone care to explain what ARUN is? :)
Thanks.
I feel sad for you. You again came to act smartass without getting all the information you need.
Kojak himself named me the Pillar of this Community which automatically puts me on the Legend list. I wasn't named a Legend by random people, i was named by well-known Division Leader.
And as usual, you continue to dodge the arguments thrown at you by diverting it to criticism of the ones who made them. Nothing changes the fact that you have continued moaning against a script that Argonath's developers have put hundreds of hours of work into in exchange for nothing but little thanks and many complaints from players like you.For last time i please you to stop attacking me and talking non sense because nothing can change the fact that you were shitting on Gandalf's idea while you were thinking that you're shitting on my suggestion.
You cannot even get Kojak's rank right, neither do real legends go around the community gloating "I am a legend, which means I have this rank that makes me f**king better than all of you and gives me the right to demand this and that".
Semantics aside, would he still have done the same (assuming he actually did... not like you gave us proof of that to swim in) if he knew the person he was talking to would become a self-aggrandizing moaner who makes suggestions of the the developers? You forget that whatever they give to you here, they can revoke at any time.
So go ahead, continue acting with an over-inflated sense of entitlement and shaming our devs' hard work, so you will be put in your right place. When the time comes, you cannot fault anyone for not having warned you ahead.
a war fought with guns is purely down to shooting ability and not roleplay experience or ability.A gang(mafia? IDGAF) war can be roleplayed and the shootout can be a part of the roleplay so I strongly disagree with what you said in my quote.
A gang(mafia? IDGAF) war can be roleplayed and the shootout can be a part of the roleplay so I strongly disagree with what you said in my quote.The feel of winning a war with simple words make you more proud than implying weapons to the roleplay.
A gang(mafia? IDGAF) war can be roleplayed and the shootout can be a part of the roleplay so I strongly disagree with what you said in my quote.
i don give a f**k, i just had to answer the man who goes behind me acting smart and bullshitting on everything i say.
Well said Acika. :balance: :balance: :balance:I wont post here anymore as i see that they are removing my posts.
I wont post here anymore as i see that they are removing my posts.
However it is true that you have become a legend in your own right, just not in the same 'legendary-department' as those previously named.
You fall in with Watti, SF_SA,SugarDand so forth.
I feel sad for you. You again came to act smartass without getting all the information you need.
Kojak himself named me the Pillar of this Community which automatically puts me on the Legend list. I wasn't named a Legend by random people, i was named by well-known Division Leader.
Skype conversation with Gandalf:
[16.11.2013 14:28:32] Acika: What are the chances for the Luciano family to keep its properties ?
[16.11.2013 16:40:55] Ronnel Productions: depending on activity, all families will be reviewed
And to mention that day before RS5 was released i spoke to Zaila and he told me that Luciano HQ will be set.
I love the way how you think you know everything and im missing your quizes.
xox Acika
PS: For Borus: I know that sometimes the things i write are not popular, but i may not disappoint army of my fans (haters)
Arguements will be kept for months but nothing will change.On the contrary. We are making changes.
As long as Luciano supports the wrong projects, I do not see them becoming official at any time.Wrong project ? I heard that you're supporting that "wrong project" too.
Wrong project ? I heard that you're supporting that "wrong project" too.If you think Argonath RPG is the wrong project, then why are you still here? ;)
Wrong project ? I heard that you're supporting that "wrong project" too.People lie.
If you think Argonath RPG is the wrong project, then why are you still here? ;)Are you okay ?
People lie.Shall we continue this over PM or skype ?
Are you okay ?sure
Shall we continue this over PM or skype ?
Are you okay ?I'm doing great, how about yourself?
Typical internet... This topic is typical internetWaiting for Godwins Law?
I'm doing great, how about yourself?I'm cool. Do you have any idea what are we talking about ? :)
Now you really are a legend. I'm so glad you finally pointed it out. "Wiseguys" like him who think they are someone but actually they're just a subject of a good laugh had to be put in place, though nobody had the balls for it. I respect you even more now. Though I would rule SugarD out, he's just trying to help..The moment you admit you dont have the balls :lol:
Random Post is Random
Confession:
Sometimes I feel like DDOSing Argonath just to prove it to SugarD that Interpol or FBI or anybody ain't gonna do shit.
It is important to take the time to thank everyone who took their time creating RS5 (Rock Stars RPG 5.0). Us players want the scripting team and developers to know that we are very pleased with the quality of RS5. Regarding the issues of RS5, I feel the developers and scripting team should have to change nothing. The community needs to simply wait and let it adjust.
JDC and Jubin have addressed the issue perfectly. RS5 is newborn and has yet to enter its prime which is truly exciting as we wait to see what unfolds. It is important that we as a community keep patient. Once ARUN is set up, we will all have opportunities to voice our compliments, opinions and issues.
The moment you admit you dont have the balls :lol::lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Acika is the true legend of Argonath, you must get along with that, JDC. There is ARMY of people who are supporting Acika, we want you to start supporting this legend with us.
So, will you, please? I hope we can count on you!
Acika is the true legend of Argonath, you must get along with that, JDC. There is ARMY of people who are supporting Acika, we want you to start supporting this legend with us.
So, will you, please? I hope we can count on you!
(http://patterico.com/files/2011/04/Sheep_mouton.rebelle.jpg):rofl: :rofl:
:lol: :lol: :lol:Can I also be a legend? I have been a luciano before. :neutral:
Acika is the true legend of Argonath, you must get along with that, JDC. There is ARMY of people who are supporting Acika, we want you to start supporting this legend with us.
So, will you, please? I hope we can count on you!
:lol: :lol: :lol:'
Acika is the true legend of Argonath
Acika is the true legend of Argonath!
how do I become a legend like Acika?PLAY LEAGUE OF LEGENDS!!!!!
You sure kiss lots of ass, don't you?No, only asses of real legends, and there aren't much.
(http://patterico.com/files/2011/04/Sheep_mouton.rebelle.jpg)
ACIKA THE LEGEND(http://i.imgur.com/TaTdV.gif)
Enough with who is a legend or who isn't. Its a game, if that's something that honestly concerns you... I have bad news for you about your real life. Its not the point of this topic; if nothing further is to be added then this topic can be just be ignored. Any other posts on it will be removed.Why not lock the topic than?
Why not lock the topic than?
Most of the people you would define as "legends" don't even play here anymore, only a small handful still float around from time to time.
None in this topic anyway.
I'm cool. Do you have any idea what are we talking about ? :)I sure do!
Nonetheless the biggest legend in Argonath I know is TeaM Ethan.
You know why? He's happy. He makes everyone happy. He's the guy who taught me to (mind my language) be nobody's bad girl. There's no need to asslick. You gotta learn its a game and start to have fun! Do what you really want! Do what makes you laugh and enjoy!!! I was the dude after ranks and money, so attached to virtual stuff. And that's what he changed. I'm a happy person now :)
You sound like a reformed drug user.dem FBIs
I have a suggestion to temporarily increase players in the server. Which is purchasing a hosted tab for a month. The chepeast is about $19.00 dollars, but if we raise donations this is possible. It's a temporary way to keep this samp community alive until RS5 is complete.Hosted tab...?
Oh, as Gandalf wants it directed at him, here I go.
Well you suck big time old grey man! I didn't expect RS5 to be cool and now it is, resulting I am playing more than I wanted. I mean, I can control that but I started to like Argonath again, because of it's new scripts. You're so bad that you made these ideas, everyone hates..... oh wait, thanks for the cool scripts, hahaha!
I have a suggestion to temporarily increase players in the server. Which is purchasing a hosted tab for a month. The chepeast is about $19.00 dollars, but if we raise donations this is possible. It's a temporary way to keep this samp community alive until RS5 is complete.Who said that RS5 is incomplete?
I have a suggestion to temporarily increase players in the server. Which is purchasing a hosted tab for a month. The chepeast is about $19.00 dollars, but if we raise donations this is possible. It's a temporary way to keep this samp community alive until RS5 is complete.Hosted tab is for kids that want people to play their downloaded and slightly edited gamemode scripts. No offense, but that is not what Argonath needs.
Who said that RS5 is incomplete?Everyone?
Everyone?Not everyone. If i say it's complete, it won't be everyone. Isn't it?
Not everyone. If i say it's complete, it won't be everyone. Isn't it?It was released early because of the RS4 data incident.
It was released early because of the RS4 data incident.The things that players want to use are completed, why you care about the other scripts while you didn't care about them in RS4, then?
.. do you genuinely consider RS5 finished?
The things that players want to use are completed, why you care about the other scripts while you didn't care about them in RS4, then?Because when someone tells you it's finished it's supposed to be finished, you don't go into a bakery and eat bread dough.
Because when someone tells you it's finished it's supposed to be finished, you don't go into a bakery and eat bread dough.So you want RS4 back while there are bugs that players don't care about, while the same in RS5 and you say it's uncompleted. Great logic.
Why would you care if something isn't there when it wasn't there before? I don't know, inter galactic comunication doesn't exsist yet and I would be pissed off if it was a feature in the update 2.0.1.2 and isn't in the update 2.0.1.4, catching my drift?
If you say something is complete it should be complete, all of it.. why not call it a beta? It isn't even a bad word seeing as you need to pay for most of the betas on steam nowadays.
So you want RS4 back while there are bugs that players don't care about, while the same in RS5 and you say it's uncompleted. Great logic.Woah woah woah let's clam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irF5sBTVniI)down here a bit cow, I never said I want RS4 back. But RS5 is still incomplete.
Woah woah woah let's clam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irF5sBTVniI)down here a bit cow, I never said I want RS4 back. But RS5 is still incomplete.Means RS4.1 is also incomplete.
why you care about the other scripts while you didn't care about them in RS4, then?Are you actually serious?
Means RS4.1 is also incomplete.Some times I see the world wide education system failing and I wonder how we made it so far without terminating our speecies, because let's be clear, you would be the one going "what does this button do"
Some times I see the world wide education system failing and I wonder how we made it so far without terminating our speecies, because let's be clear, you would be the one going "what does this button do"What about pressing both buttons together? That can make it screwed like the life is, right?
Cow or sheep, pick a side.
What about pressing both buttons together? That can make it screwed like the life is, right?Yeeeah but one button woul probably just make farting sounds
Yeeeah but one button woul probably just make farting soundsThat's why i would choose both, make the farting sound and make what ever the other button does.
Woah woah woah let's clam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irF5sBTVniI)down here a bit cow, I never said I want RS4 back. But RS5 is still incomplete.RS54 is not imvomplete, it is in development. That means we are going to add features and change things according to what we feel is needed, as well as develop things based on ideas we receive.
That's why i would choose both, make the farting sound and make what ever the other button does.Probably set off a atom combuster setting off a black hole that would break the space time continuous which would make you pernamently listen to the fart sound untill every single atom would combust into thin matter and each one would explode stronger than ten nukes going on but the best part is that you wouldn't know any of this is happening because your brain would work slower than the time everything is happening so you would of fallen into a dream world in which you would continue to live your life but in the real(?) world you are combusting in a slow phase, every atom dissapearing, slowing down time untill it stops, but at that point everything is black as the sun rays are too slow to reach earth that is imploding on itself, all because you wanted to hear a fart sound, thanks cow.
Probably set off a atom combuster setting off a black hole that would break the space time continuous which would make you pernamently listen to the fart sound untill every single atom would combust into thin matter and each one would explode stronger than ten nukes going on but the best part is that you wouldn't know any of this is happening because your brain would work slower than the time everything is happening so you would of fallen into a dream world in which you would continue to live your life but in the real(?) world you are combusting in a slow phase, every atom dissapearing, slowing down time untill it stops, but at that point everything is black as the sun rays are too slow to reach earth that is imploding on itself, all because you wanted to hear a fart sound, thanks cow.We love making troubles. We love being in troubles.
RS54
RS54 is not imvomplete, it is in development. That means we are going to add features and change things according to what we feel is needed, as well as develop things based on ideas we receive.
Indeed this development was brought forward. However I am sure the scripting team has worked a lot harder due to their changes having live impact as when they were just working on doing it one thing at the time. Ther is something magic about being able to introduce new things on the run, it motivates.
Somehow no matter how long beta testers work, and how many issues they find, once a server goes live the player manage to find a whole new range. That is mainly because beta testers actually know how things work, where as regular players will just try anything as they might not understood how to give a command. This has happened with the introduction of every script, and is nothing strange.
Why else would companies like Microsoft, Google and Rockstar Games bring out quick updates on their major new releases. It happens there, it happens in smaller projects like our scripts as well.
RS54 is not imvomplete, it is in development. That means we are going to add features and change things according to what we feel is needed, as well as develop things based on ideas we receive.
Indeed this development was brought forward. However I am sure the scripting team has worked a lot harder due to their changes having live impact as when they were just working on doing it one thing at the time. Ther is something magic about being able to introduce new things on the run, it motivates.
RS54 is not imvomplete, it is in development. That means we are going to add features and change things according to what we feel is needed, as well as develop things based on ideas we receive.
RS54 is not imvomplete, it is in development.
RS54
Hey, remember when that guy llost his shit when Gandalf wrote something wrong..
SAY WHAAAAAT?
Things happenExatcly, from the RS4 server dying in such an unfortunate manner, forcing faster development on Rs5 and forcing being released in such a state, shit happens, but fuck it, I like the scripring approach of scripting what the comunity wants but the thing is seeing from the development state this whole rs4/5 misshap happened about 6 months too early, but if the comunity can deal with it like Khm is.. I ain't even mad.
That is mainly because beta testers actually know how things work, where as regular players will just try anything as they might not understood how to give a command.That was the reason for open beta, that is also part of the reason for live release.... so what to do when you feel the regular players know how things work? :neutral2:
Hey, remember when that guy llost his shit when Gandalf wrote something wrong..Nope :O What happened?
RS54
Nope :O What happened?Something simmilar to his:
Holy shit, i have been inactive much longer than I thought :lol:
As there is not going to be RS6...Says who?!?
Says who?!?Gandalf...
At this point in time there is 318 servers on the hosted tab, is there any necessity to spend money on it being under the hosted tab compared to the normal tab?
And by the looks of it, all the servers that are listed under the "Internet" tab are listed on the "Hosted" tab nowadays.
Holy shit, i have been inactive much longer than I thought :lol:
That's how they earn pennies from the young and dumb :) The official tab was far better however much a pain in the arse it was to get on it. I seem to remember the development team Kalcor or whatever his name is now had issues with communities supporting other mods?The original thing SA:MP had was an official tab, where the team chose the most innovative servers. Argonath was on it every time we applied.
The only good programmers in the sa-mp community are Kalcor, Y_less, Zeex and Westie, the rest are mostly using work made by others and indeed, very bad at business.. :rofl:
What I do know is that Kalcor is an excellent programmer, but terrible at business and organization.
Gandalf...Where exactly? I have yet to ever see this...
Where exactly? I have yet to ever see this...
4. RS5 is probably the last full game mode we will create for SA:MP, it is up to you to make it special. But remember our scripts have never been the main reason of playing.
That quote says "probably" the last "full" game mode for SA:MP. It does not say that there won't be updates, RS6, or anything definite. All it is saying is that RS5 will likely be the last major rewrite/script base.
That quote says "probably" the last "full" game mode for SA:MP. It does not say that there won't be updates, RS6, or anything definite. All it is saying is that RS5 will likely be the last major rewrite/script base.Yes.. RS6 would mean a new game mode.. aka a major script rewrite, there will be updates but not a new game mode. I want to quote a personal message from gandalf but it's personal for a reason.. The simple version is that SAMP is turning into VCMP and why should anyone make a new game mode for an alredy dying franchise.. it isn't 2010 anymore, I miss it but SAMP is slowly going away.. Why would Gandalf make his sheep script for a dying game mode rather than support something like V:MP that is comming out or M2:MP .. why look into the past when you can look into the future.
Yes.. RS6 would mean a new game mode.. aka a major script rewrite...Says who? Everything up to RS4.1 was using the same base system. RS5 was the rewrite. RS6 could easily be a large update to the RS5 base.
Says who? Everything up to RS4.1 was using the same base system. RS5 was the rewrite. RS6 could easily be a large update to the RS5 base.
Just to make clear, RS5 will certainly be updated and worked on for a long time to come. As you may know, RS4 was worked on and updated for 5 years, and R5 will probably be no different.
By the time 2018 is finishing, we hope that there is something much more exciting available as SA:MP will by that time be where VC is today.
3. We do not control player count. We provide something to play in, and if nobody wants to use it we will do somehting else. GTA:SA is 10 years old, SA:MP is 8 years. People grow and move on, new games ave arrived.Just because Gandalf doesn't spell it out (would be silly to go into such absolutes this early anyway) doesn't mean the underlying point isn't sent across.
If you wish to suggest new things to look at, they are always welcome.
4. RS5 is probably the last full game mode we will create for SA:MP, it is up to you to make it special. But remember our scripts have never been the main reason of playing.
The original thing SA:MP had was an official tab, where the team chose the most innovative servers. Argonath was on it every time we applied.
This was changed to a paid hosted tab, which was a suggestion from one of the largest hosting companies that offered Kalcor (Kyle) a part of the money. However they used this as a forceful way to promote their own hosting, making is hard for others to get on to it. Besides that, a hosted tab was nothing of value like an official listing was.
At the end of the year, after they 'took over'two other large SAMP hosters, they got in to a dispute with Kalcor about the money they promised him. The hosted tab disappeared. It returned later, but as I was no longer following closely I do not know how the status of it is today.
What I do know is that Kalcor is an excellent programmer, but terrible at business and organization.
Mannnnn samp isn't going away.
Go to the internet tab and check servers with player count. There are servers with like 500-1000 player slots and they are fkimg full at peak time.
Samp is still alive and running. Its our server which is dying.
Go to the internet tab and check servers with player count. There are servers with like 500-1000 player slots and they are fkimg full at peak time.Yeah but our servers aren't russian, so ..
Yeah but our servers aren't russian, so ..Although it doesn't matter, I'd just like to note that not all of our servers are Russian (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=94185), anyway. :D
Although it doesn't matter, I'd just like to note that not all of our servers are Russian (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=94185), anyway. :DBut that website isn't available.. D:
Hello From Albania <3This aint a "Hi" topic Mahn!
How is everyone?
RS5 FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:) :D :lol: ;) :balance: :mad: :hah: :neutral2: :uhm:
Hello From Albania <3lol go play league man
How is everyone?
RS5 FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:) :D :lol: ;) :balance: :mad: :hah: :neutral2: :uhm:
There were also servers like those several years ago, but the total number of SA:MP servers has decreased since then. Argonath isn't "dying", so get your facts straight instead of distorting things.
SA:MP is not dying. People are just too lazy to actually log in because they can't find anything better to do than moan about how they don't like certain scripts.
SA:MP is not dying. People are just too lazy to actually log in because they can't find anything better to do than moan about how they don't like certain scripts.Or it's because they are grateful for the scripters work but would rather RS4..
Or it's because they are grateful for the scripters work but would rather RS4..I'm fairly certain most of them are just moaning.
I'm fairly certain most of them are just moaning.How are they moaning by not playing? They are not playing because they do not want to play..
How are they moaning by not playing? They are not playing because they do not want to play..I mean that most of those choosing to not play are just sitting around moaning about things, rather than just disliking the new design and using that as a reason. I can't even count how many times I've seen people **** on the server because they didn't agree with the scripts.
I mean that most of those choosing to not play are just sitting around moaning about things, rather than just disliking the new design and using that as a reason. I can't even count how many times I've seen people **** on the server because they didn't agree with the scripts.Well I think that moan shit storm pretty much calmed down now and those who don't like RS5 have shut up and stopped playing altogether.. :rolleyes:
Times change, people find new places to do things and others move on.Or they are just banned for a few months.. :gand:
Well I think that moan shit storm pretty much calmed down now and those who don't like RS5 have shut up and stopped playing altogether.. :rolleyes:I'm worried. I actually partially agree with you. D:
Or they are just banned for a few months.. :gand:
People are just too lazy to actually log inThis literally makes no sense - use your head, man.
I'm fairly certain most of them are just moaning.Sorry, but this is just outright total ignorance, and I've seen it said time and time again on here. It hurts me every time I see it.
Times change, people find new places to do things and others move on.What does it tell you that people find new places to do things and others move on as a result of the change in Argo?
The filthy comment which was posted here has been removed - Steven_J (Phil)
We've had a drastic player count drop. From the server being full on Saturday nights with around 200 players to only around 30.
We used to have 30-60 players on mornings, and American times and now that dropped to 10 or less.
If that still isn't the server "dying" for you, then either you're joking, or you're definitely trying to look like the "good guy" praising the server to get some rank.
It also seems like everyone who isn't a patriot of Argonath is just a "shitter" on the server because they have completely different view points.
It's one thing to not be defensive of the community. It's an entirely different thing when someone comes in here just to moan and complain while not making any meaningful contributions, or not even being on the server at all. If those aren't examples of shitters, tell me what is.
If youre directing that to me, well I think going in game with a group to increase roleplay is a much larger contribution than simply talking about it on the forums like you do.
I suggest if you'd like to help argo, come in game and teach new players how to roleplay.
A group named after an enemy of the community that you and your friends just had to make not one, but two moan topics against Zaila's decision...
I am already here almost everyday, which is more than could be said for some of those who are complaining that the player count is low.
If youre directing that to me, well I think going in game with a group to increase roleplay is a much larger contribution than simply talking about it on the forums like you do.
I suggest if you'd like to help argo, come in game and teach new players how to roleplay.
SA:MP is not dying. People are just too lazy to actually log in because they can't find anything better to do than moan about how they don't like certain scripts.
Times change, people find new places to do things and others move on.
Also, the people who are moaning about RS5? Most of them have not even done enough research, and as such have no right to write off the server so easily. Now THAT is worse than "the intellect and common sense of a mentally handicapped person", as you put it.
Woka, meaning Friendship in Somalian is the reason why we chose the name.I think you may have confused the name with the word "saaxiibtinimo". Nice try, though.
I think you may have confused the name with the word "saaxiibtinimo". Nice try, though.He is kinda correct after a single google search;
I think you may have confused the name with the word "saaxiibtinimo". Nice try, though.
I think you may have confused the name with the word "saaxiibtinimo". Nice try, though.
I salute you, let the developers listen to the community.
"Having exam" doesent explain dropping from 150 to 20 players online.
Jack Rosso, you couldnt be more right.
I salute you, let the developers listen to the community.
"Having exam" doesent explain dropping from 150 to 20 players online.
Jack Rosso, you couldnt be more right.
I salute you, let the developers listen to the community.
"Having exam" doesent explain dropping from 150 to 20 players online.
No hate towards the developers (me myself think RS5 is ok), but why can't you just accept the fact that most people think RS5 is a big failure and therefor left the server instead of hiding behind "Oh you know, exams, they grew up", cause as said before, I have a hard time believing 100 people got exams and grew up.
I do wonder how much the player count will increase if RS4 would arrive, with a full reset. That reset is one of the few things that was brilliant with RS5. The number of players will for sure increase, but apparently that doesn't matter anymore since the stubbornness with the belief of RS5 being the future is too high. RS5 can easily be the future by its presence you know, but obviously that does not mean it will be any better than the past (RS4).
We know that the future of the server is in your hands but keep in mind; you determine the greatness of it as well. Quite frankly, it doesn't take a genius to realize that the path the server is on now isn't exactly moving it towards the upper scale of excellency
As already mentioned, the player count dropping is not what we worry about.
Lets just make it clear that many other Argonath servers are booming (an example of this would be the GTA IV server, which is the most popular server on IV:MP right now reaching the player limit everyday). Yes, SA:MP may have lost a considerable amount of players from RS5, but that does not mean the death of Argonath which many of you are talking like it is.That is good for IV:MP, great job there.
Lets just make it clear that many other Argonath servers are booming (an example of this would be the GTA IV server, which is the most popular server on IV:MP right now reaching the player limit everyday). Yes, SA:MP may have lost a considerable amount of players from RS5, but that does not mean the death of Argonath which many of you are talking like it is.
Nein
- GTA:SA is an old game, and not many people play it now as several years ago, despite being easy to run.
NeinThere was more than 100 servers and more than 70k players. :lol:
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- GTA:SA is an old game, and not many people play it now as several years ago, despite being easy to run.
There was more than 100 servers and more than 70k players. :lol:Yes.. 340 servers.. cow..
How come every known server I know of still have around +400 players and we lost all because the game "turned old" over a month (which included the loss of RS4 and launch of RS5)?Yay RS5 (http://i.imgur.com/NUtONFV.gif) and a lot of servers lost all their players, broaden up your prespective, because I've been active in six comunities that had over 300 players daily that round up today to about 30-50 and two of them kinda went away without ever saying goodbye.. shit is dying, the good thing is that Argonath RPG has multiple servers on multiple games.
Stop being so god damn stubborn.
Yes.. 340 servers.. cow..500 wops
Yay RS5 (http://i.imgur.com/NUtONFV.gif) and a lot of servers lost all their players, broaden up your prespective, because I've been active in six comunities that had over 300 players daily that round up today to about 30-50 and two of them kinda went away without ever saying goodbye.. shit is dying, the good thing is that Argonath RPG has multiple servers on multiple games.
There was more than 100 servers and more than 70k players. :lol:
Cause admins aren't real users and don't get an opinion on RS5, they are obviously paid to have a good opinion of it. Thanks for that enlightenment, Mopreme.
Paid?Nopeã„や
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Paid?
Cause admins aren't real users and don't get an opinion on RS5, they are obviously paid to have a good opinion of it. Thanks for that enlightenment, Mopreme.Look up the word: exaggeration.
How come every known server I know of still have around +400 players and we lost almost all players because the game "turned old" over a month (which included the loss of RS4 and launch of RS5)?
Stop being so god damn stubborn.
It's funny to see how people like you, JDC, and community staff thought and probably still thinks that the RS5 release was only gonna be a positive improvement and that the current player-base and community members were just gonna follow along. Even with scripts which would drasticly change the way of playing, making it much harder or even unable for some of the current players to continue with what they are doing right now on RS4 (think about all the disadvantages of criminals in RS5). It's also obvious that these scripts were implented with the intention to keep some type of players or groups away from the community, aka the DM groups. However, a script or gamemode isn't gonna change the mentality and way-of-playing for many community members. That means they'll dislike it, and leave.. and that's exactly the case right now. As predicted many people left because they are fed up with the new implentations and no longer can / may continue with the way they used to play on the server for years.
Yeah, indeed looks like great entertainment, however good luck trying to make a video like that in the current state of Argonath RPG SA:MP. (Atleast they got the ability to add bots to SA:MP servers these days ;))Just found one already! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CWmsbxULVs)
Just found one already! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CWmsbxULVs)
I appreciate you pointing out that you're really ignorant, I dont even need to prove it, you're doing it yourself. Cannot win an argument so just blows it off with a ''funny'' YouTube video. I think you've pretty much shown the whole community now you're not able to properly discuss a matter, again thanks for proving that.Actually I just prefer to have positive conversations instead of ****ting on the community, but that is just me.
As already mentioned, the player count dropping is not what we worry about.
Actually I just prefer to have positive conversations instead of ****ting on the community, but that is just me.
Actually I just prefer to have positive conversations instead of ****ting on the community, but that is just me.
Actually I just prefer to have positive conversations instead of ****ting on the community, but that is just me.If you prefer to have positive conversations then why are you so aggressive and negative to everybody on the forum?
Lets just make it clear that many other Argonath servers are booming (an example of this would be the GTA IV server, which is the most popular server on IV:MP right now reaching the player limit everyday).
Are those who aren't playing online anymore because;Answered your questions from my personal perspective.
A reset happened which resulted in loss of possessions plus you feel mis-treated for the way RS5 came about? (would have been inevitable anyway) Well it is a pain in the ass when you have to regain millions, I'd try earning my stuff back but everyone seems uninterested in playing Argonath, and with current player count and my boys gone I'm really demotivated.
The server currently is still in need of bug fixing and you are waiting till the game-breaking bugs are patched? It isn't that much of an issue, RS5 is a good script though removing PNS and food to reheal made more than few veterans I know facepalm.
You feel RS5 didn't live up to expectations in terms of taking Argonath to a whole new level but keeping simplicity? Well it seems so when we got over 50 regulars gone.
You just all around dislike RS5 without even bothering to give it a shot? I find the script okay, the other things concern me.
None of the above, if so state your reason. I'm personally inactive trying to reach remaining Stracci members to discuss our future, it also demotivates me to see that 90 percent of people I knew, players I rolled with, fought against or just knew by seeing their name on player list everyday is gone. The player count is killing me the most, I've been here when Stracci had two times more members online at once than Argonath has players IG right now. Beside that my RL friends quit, and criminal groups went dead inactive.
SA:MP server may have changed for better for worse, fact is some alot of us here have been playing for year's and all of a sudden a script change come's along and we're up in arms about how it's done more harm than good. Ranting on the forums about the current state isn't going to change anything, the community needs to bond together and do something to make change happen.
(...) but seeing as majority of the community wants RS4 back, why don't you make a public poll for every user to add in his choice?They already know what the result will turn out to be as it is as obvious as obviously obvious.
When people were in Rs4, they shout and spam in public chat that they want new version, rs5 and now as it is released people say we want rs4 back the pervious versionIndeed
The funny part is that pretty much everyone would play RS5 if everyone else did. Can't get out of the loop, though
Yes.Wish it was that easy =(
We need to add 100 bots so we can lure people to come ingame
Either way, this community will move on, with or without you.Very true, just bear in mind how many people "you" actually is ;)
This topic is supposed to be locked when it is created. (you still got time #YOLO) :rolleyes: :weed:
This topic is supposed to be locked when it is created. (you still got time #YOLO) :rolleyes: :weed:
it will end up with another similar topic being created at the end of the day.But this was created by Gandalf, he's one hell of a topic-hunter.
In my opinion official mafias should no longer be officialThank you.
Thank you.
Could you give me a good reason, why not?I mean there is a point which Zaila made in that official mafias should get re selected on a new game mode.. but what's the point of having an drug system that requires official mafias, they kinda shot themselves in the foot with that one but that just means that official groups will get selected sooner as the drug system needs to be functioning or there is no point in having one.. As the FBI is able to steal from official groups HQ..
I mean there is a point which Zaila made in that official mafias should get re selected on a new game mode.. but what's the point of having an drug system that requires official mafias, they kinda shot themselves in the foot with that one but that just means that official groups will get selected sooner as the drug system needs to be functioning or there is no point in having one.. As the FBI is able to steal from official groups HQ..
Recent changes to the drug systems means now any member of a criminal group is able to sell drugs to the drug market. :)Well it would be more fun if just the strongest biggest mafias ruled the market, but oh well some times compensation is necessary, and now gives smaller groups the chance to feel more importance than in RS4 where there were four main families..
Well it would be more fun if just the strongest biggest mafias ruled the market, but oh well some times compensation is necessary, and now gives smaller groups the chance to feel more importance than in RS4 where there were four main families..Are you trying to say only mafias are in the drug business? I think you'll find most of real mafia's money comes from other criminal activities.
Well it would be more fun if just the strongest biggest mafias ruled the market, but oh well some times compensation is necessary, and now gives smaller groups the chance to feel more importance than in RS4 where there were four main families..
Let’s step back for a second.
The developers have worked diligently in putting RS5 together. From what I’ve seen – the technical design is impressive, identifying and actively resolving commons flaws of RS4 including the lag we all came to resent. I would not doubt the heart of the developers since they have invested more selfless effort than many of us put together. In view of this, the owner did the right thing by taking full ownership of the functional design of RS5 including bearing responsibility behind the ideas that have been controversially unpopular among the community.
In my opinion, RS5 was not as successful as our past releases because fundamentally it lost the spirit and flare that its predecessors RS4, RS3 etc had boasted. The landscape was refreshed both spiritually and materialistically. The leadership/owner did not it seems anticipate that this sudden radicalisation of the community would result in the upheaval we witness today.
Added to the loss of spirit and flare of RS5 – there are external factors which have contributed to our spectacular downfall from grace many of which are outside of the leadership/owner control including the deterioration of SA:MP and arm’s length management of the server. All of which formed the perfect storm.
Fundamentally, we could analyse what went wrong for a long time and I would (with the benefit of time) be at the forefront of assisting the leadership/owner with a root cause analysis. However, with time against us and continuing deterioration of our community - corrective action is needed now.
We need to understand the problems first which I’d encourage the community to assist on:
- Economic stagnation
- Group and families stagnation
- Removal of existing/previous functionality from RS4
Proposed solutions to address the issues above:
- Frequent but proportionate economic stimulus
- Funding to official and key unofficial groups to spur recruitment activity
- Assessing the removal and reintroduction of functionality from RS4
Ultimately, we need to put our egos aside and fight together for the survival of this community.
Are you trying to say only mafias are in the drug business? I think you'll find most of real mafia's money comes from other criminal activities.
Such as illegal gambling and whatnot.Yeh man, weed and such is more of a gang thing, mafia's should stick to fraud, gambling and black mail. :janek:
That being said I've always preferred to play the role of "the friendly neighborhood pot dealer". I'd feel rather boxed in if I was forced to join a "Mafia" to feel as if anything I did mattered from an RP perspective.
Haven't really read a lot about RS5, never truly believed it will be released to be honest. Good on the script team for the result, but the result appears to be an empty server.What?
What?4/100, currently.
4/100, currently.Hour later there is -2 people ''progress''
If you keep complaining that the server is empty, why not be there yourself to attract other players to play?I have other things to do :janek:
If someone does nothing but stay out of the game and moan on the forums, then they have no right to complain about people not being ingame.I've seen you in-game so many times as well, man! :rage:
Yeh man, weed and such is more of a gang thing, mafia's should stick to fraud, gambling and black mail. :janek:Yes because black mailing firemen to give you money or you will tell sugard that the fireman has not extinguished 100% firemission and gambling with firemen that only care for money is very profitable and a very amazing thing to do. I'm so excited...
They should open an RS4 server with everyone's assets and see if all the players return, then you'll know for sure wether RS5 is the problem or not, it may well have just been the 'We dont care what you say, if you don't like it get out of the community' act but you never know. :rolleyes:
Yes because black mailing firemen to give you money or you will tell sugard that the fireman has not extinguished 100% firemission and gambling with firemen that only care for money is very profitable and a very amazing thing to do. I'm so excited...And you're in a mafia? :lol:
They should open an RS4 server with everyone's assets and see if all the players return, then you'll know for sure wether RS5 is the problem or not, it may well have just been the 'We dont care what you say, if you don't like it get out of the community' act but you never know. :rolleyes:
And if rs5 is the problem ? You're either way not getting rs4 back, permanently.Well if RS5 is the problem what is the point in keeping it?
Well if RS5 is the problem what is the point in keeping it?Because it's not the problem.
Because it's not the problem.Right so you're going to say the players are the problem or? RS4 = 100+ players. RS5 = 10+ players...
I hope I do not have to explain why as it's rather clear, and stated before.
Right so you're going to say the players are the problem or? RS4 = 100+ players. RS5 = 10+ players...
More so the constant negativity, refusal to provide worthwhile complaints that can be worked on and of course, the lack of willingness to work for items.*The players. :)
constant negativity, refusal to provide worthwhile complaints that can be worked on and of course, lack of willingness to work for items.All of which RS5 caused..
Right so you're going to say the players are the problem or? RS4 = 100+ players. RS5 = 10+ players...
Sure if you want to say that, we have provided solutions to problems that were brought up, we worked on and are still working on ways to change the systems when players had issues with it and still, negativity is around.I would happily play RS5 right now, but I'm banned, so I can't but it doesn't change the fact that most of the community are not happy with RS5 and that it has caused major loss of players, no matter how much anyone says "It's the players it's the players" nothing is changing and the community is still losing members, it's like it's back to RS1, whatever that was like, I assume it was simple/buggy scripts and lack of players, at the end of the day it's pretty clear that creating RS5 was the wrong choice no matter how much the players which have now left wanted it, RS4 should have been kept and changed by removing bugs, adding better scripts and ways to influence more roleplay.
They decided to leave with the new system. Don't expect that just because they don't want to start over again the staff is going to yield under their whimsI don't expect that and anyone who did leave because they lost their assets should just piss off anyway as they are the ones who caused the loss of RP, fact is RS5 isn't what everyone expected and it was released way to soon.
so I can't
RS5 isn't what everyone expected
You can't follow the rules.. that's why you're banned. We want quality members in our community. How you're still here is honestly beyond me. But you do bring up a somewhat decent point in saying:I can follow rules, I just can't be made to shut up by administration when I feel I'm making valid points.
this is true, RS5 isn't what everyone expected because everyone expected something different. We had the lid sealed quite well on RS5. While also speaking not everyone is going to enjoy every part; most of the people complaining hardly even played or took any effort to learn. I'll be honest I only worked on one part of RS5 and I didn't know/understand the rest of it at first. I don't like all of it myself; we were told to write something a certain way and there was no if, ands, or buts. Obviously some disagreements would take place.Well maybe thats the problem, sounds like RS5 had no community input.
Except for you Mikal, you can go off somewhere else.No no, fairly sure I'll be back in May, unless I decide to remove all traces of myself and start over, in which case I wouldn't be able to say hi to you in-game Teddy. :cry:
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I've seen you in-game so many times as well, man! :rage:
I can follow rules, I just can't be made to shut up by administration when I feel I'm making valid points.
I can follow rules,
I just can't be made to shut up by administration when I feel I'm making valid points.
Well maybe thats the problem, sounds like RS5 had no community input.
No no, fairly sure I'll be back in May, unless I decide to remove all traces of myself and start over, in which case I wouldn't be able to say hi to you in-game Teddy. :cry:
Well if RS5 is the problem what is the point in keeping it?It's not and by a bit* of help from the community, the devs can improve it.
And you're in a mafia? :lol:What I was trying to point out was: There's no money circulation for the mafias now, so drugs are a choice, other one is fireman. :)
If groups cannot buy things, they wont be active. If people cannot be in groups, people will not be active!
GROUPS = PLAYERS.
Not sure about that, but now I've earned enough to fulfill my dream of buying 30 mountain bikes. :gand:Must have one big ass if you need to sit on 30 mountain bikes when you ride. :sweat:
Most of these people who are moaning about the loss of RS4 are forgetting that the devs also chose to release RS5 as a measure to ensure that players lose assets only once, instead of losing twice. As the servers were wiped of 4 months' of information, players would be playing with 4 months' loss, only to be swamped again with another loss when RS5 was "fully" released.Not if there is never an RS5 but an RS4.1..
Sometimes, your judgment on "valid rules" is exactly the reason why you can't follow rules. You've put yourself in the same class as Monte.Thats just your opinion, and what 'class' am I in now?
Clearly you don't know the rules then. You don't argue with admins; if they tell you to do something you do it. If you feel its wrong; you do it anyways and report it to samp@argona.....Or maybe the admins I argue with should accept the fact that I'm right and be silenced so that the argument doesn't have to continue and everyone can play in peace? Besides, I love a good argument.
RS5 is based mostly on user input; doesn't mean we agree with ALL the input that was selected ;)Please name the things in RS5 that were player suggested, the only thing I can think of is the police training course, which RS4 should have had.
Hopefully you're learn.Hopefully no admins will start an argument with me..
5. They gained a job/educational course.
Please name the things in RS5 that were player suggested, the only thing I can think of is the police training course, which RS4 should have had.Here's what I know:
Here's what I know:
SAPD Test
Mechanics
Infinite cars
Infinite properties
Ability to store things in trunks - /container
To be updated.
SAPD have provided a possible solution to change the system so allows the player to choose rather than the script assigning you automatically.
Spawning is fine, got used to it mainly on duty anyway so I can spawn back at any Police Department. Be glad Argonath didn't adopt a waiting time to re-spawn, you'd have a reason to be upset about it then.
And no, I'm not going to start all over again and help the server build up again since the server itself does not help me to do so. Consider our insistence as a way to show that we care about the server.
People are NOT here because RS5 is not finished. It lack a lot of required gameplay. We cannot even buy buildings yet nor vehicles.. !
If groups cannot buy things, they wont be active. If people cannot be in groups, people will not be active!
GROUPS = PLAYERS.
Groups has always been important for new servers. To get mafioso running and local gangs that rule the city. When these abilities comes in game, you will see the server smocked with people!
Don't forget about us, the peacefull farmers! :gand:
Peaceful is not the word I would associate with Svensson farmers. :sweat:I would, with the "All but" prefix.
That quote shows you do not want to contribute at all unless it gets handed to you on a silver platter. It shows that you are lazy rather than caring.I would be having no fun starting with $5,000. I've been through the money making already. How clear can that get..
I would be having no fun starting with $5,000. I've been through the money making already. How clear can that get..Could you define "care" for me, as I fail to understand how you played/tested/explored RS5.
I would be having no fun starting with $5,000. I've been through the money making already. How clear can that get..
Groups has always been important for new servers. To get mafioso running and local gangs that rule the city. When these abilities comes in game, you will see the server smocked with people!
The irony is that when I am on cop duty, I can see the simple "DMer gangs" who just use a gangsta skin and copbait cops half of the day while pretending not to the other half, as being more "criminals" than these "veteran mobsters" who complain on the forum when they have not played in RS5.
We have these groups of self-proclaimed criminal veterans and such who are demanding for their HQ and assets to be set, when they themselves are not ingame. From all angles, it is more logical for the HQ to leave those unowned and let the new gangs take over, rather than to give assets to players who are not even here contributing to the server. Maybe perhaps these old groups would actually get what they wanted if they made a group effort to contribute, no?
Remember, opportunities and promises from the HQ are a two-way street. In exchange for a reward, there has to be some effort.
How about some solutions instead of problems?
Anybody wish to contribute?
Proposed solutions to address the issues above:- Use latest available backups of RS4 to bring back people's beloved stuff they seem to care about very much.
- Frequent but proportionate economic stimulus
- Funding to official and key unofficial groups to spur recruitment activity
- Assessing the removal and reintroduction of functionality from RS4
Peaceful is not the word I would associate with Svensson farmers. :sweat:pwnd
I keep seeing the same story. "Provide solutions.. Not willing to help.. Keep moaning". Is this the answer from you people to the players who feel free to say their own opinions?So far I've yet to see actual specific suggestions that say how to solve these issues everyone is moaning about. Instead, all I see is more moaning and people demanding change...but without saying how.
And no, I'm not going to start all over again and help the server build up again since the server itself does not help me to do so. Consider our insistence as a way to show that we care about the server.
- Use latest available backups of RS4 to bring back people's beloved stuff they seem to care about very much.That is four months or so behind the actual outage of SA:MP RS4 itself. You're talking about outdated information that will put newer players at a huge disadvantage, and will just lead to more regulars moaning about how they want their stuff they earned after that back. Then you'll also get those who will complain about losing their RS5 data. That doesn't seem very decent at all. That is why SA:MP RS5 was rushed to begin with...
Given the circumstances, this seems like a decent option.
RS5 sucks according to the 100 players that left - end of story.I left but not because of RS5, it's because of my studies. ;)
So far I've yet to see actual specific suggestions that say how to solve these issues everyone is moaning about. Instead, all I see is more moaning and people demanding change...but without saying how.
RS5 sucks according to the 100 players that left - end of story.Okay, let's see your statistics and their sources. Also, how about you tell everyone what sucks, and specifically how to fix it. So far I've seen you do nothing but complain, and not suggest a single way to solve these so-called problems you keep moaning about.
I've done my job saying my opinion, how is this going to change is something I cannot know, but the ones who should are those who have changed it at the very first place. It is very clear to my eyes - RS5 brought disaster.If you do not know what is wrong in order to fix it, then how do you know what to complain about?
- Use latest available backups of RS4 to bring back people's beloved stuff they seem to care about very much.
Given the circumstances, this seems like a decent option.
That is four months or so behind the actual outage of SA:MP RS4 itself.And that isn't a problem at all, you're just saying this as if SA-MP HQ has no tools to control the economy.
You're talking about outdated information that will put newer players at a huge disadvantage, and will just lead to more regulars moaning about how they want their stuff they earned after that back. Then you'll also get those who will complain about losing their RS5 data. That doesn't seem very decent at all. That is why SA:MP RS5 was rushed to begin with...Yeah, most of new players have less assets than people who played for years with the purpose to gather them, but it is normal and not unfair. There's no need to make a big deal out this by overestimating the value of virtual money. We at MTA, too, suffered because of this data loss, but we just restored everything we could and gave everyone a compensation of $100k, which is more than most had before the data loss.
Unfortunately, in an Argonath role-play server an asset reset usually leads to an illogical ending for a logical (for many) series of events. After a reset, the local community doesn't move forward – it starts anew. And it's quite rare when a new community suddenly gains 100 players. It takes time to rebuild.These are some very wise words.
I do not condemn the reset; neither do I support refunds – all I am saying is that it's an option which may help.
I left but not because of RS5, it's because of my studies. ;)Same here, i have not left, but rather became a bit inactive due to real life. Not saying i represent all the other players, there might be other causes to this loss in player count as well.
we care about the server.
I'm not going to start all over again and help the server build up again
since the server itself does not help me to do so.
Kinda hard to rebuild 2-3 years of work, and when you are around 20 years old you probably don't have time to play that much like you could 2 years ago.
Why not 'retire'? That's how I feel nowadays, just kick back & enjoy what Argonath has to offer for you.
Yes but it's kinda hard to sit back and relax when you lost everything, you can barely do anything and all you m8s left because of this.
Yes but it's kinda hard to sit back and relax when you lost everything, you can barely do anything and all you m8s left because of this.If you plan on sitting back and relaxing, what would you do? Surely that doesn't mean going into the server, AFK'ing, and leaning back in your chair while you watch the world go by...
...we need to farm firemission every 20 min to have a chance of getting money...There is your mistake. You wish to misuse an existing system to get money you think you need to have fun, instead of just roleplaying it all out and having a good time doing the same, exact thing you wanted to do.
There is your mistake. You wish to misuse an existing system to get money you think you need to have fun, instead of just roleplaying it all out and having a good time doing the same, exact thing you wanted to do.Oh I'm sorry hasn't management said the current fireman system is actually to inject money into the economy?
Money isn't required for everything. There are also plenty of other ways of getting it. People just don't want to use their imaginations because there aren't scripts that exist for these ideas...
Money isn't required for everything. There are also plenty of other ways of getting it. People just don't want to use their imaginations because there aren't scripts that exist for these ideas...
Oh I'm sorry hasn't management said the current fireman system is actually to inject money into the economy?Haven't they also said that it is not there simply to earn money, but to be a roleplaying mechanism? Oh wait, I forgot...everyone just plays here for greed. It isn't a roleplay server.
I agree with this point in particular. However, I also have to point out that in the current state of things, the injection of money into the economy is needed to finally get the system going. You can have a really good engine (gamemode) and parts (players), but you can't get it going without the right oil.Then they can do it properly. There is no need to abuse anything just to "jumpstart the server". They could easily roleplay out the scenarios like they are supposed to while earning the money.
Then they can do it properly. There is no need to abuse anything just to "jumpstart the server". They could easily roleplay out the scenarios like they are supposed to while earning the money.Noone will give you cash for RPing, because noone has the cash to give you.
They could easily roleplay out the scenarios like they are supposed to while earning the money.And people could close their eyes when dreaming.
Noone will give you cash for RPing, because noone has the cash to give you./me hands Acika $20.
And people could close their eyes when dreaming.Most people do. The sad part is that none of them wish to even try opening their eyes.
What do you want me to do? Sell weed to the other 3 AFK players?You could always ask your friends to get online so you can roleplay with them. Communication is a wonderful tool.
You could always ask your friends to get online so you can roleplay with them. Communication is a wonderful tool.
/me hands Acika $20.In a gamemode that took years to script, I expect being able to actually send money, not just pretend I did.
In a gamemode that took years to script, I expect being able to actually send money, not just pretend I did.
What do you want me to do? Sell weed to the other 3 AFK players?No, sell to me, a hardworking businessman. Find the right guy, not the "fireman".
But the thing is, nobody wants to go online because of - RS5Nobody? I've seen 12 people online for the last 4 hours straight. More at other hours. You sure it is nobody?
In a gamemode that took years to script, I expect being able to actually send money, not just pretend I did.If you expect to actually be sending money, you should try PayPal. The scripts are nothing more than something to make your roleplay have a visual effect.
Nobody? I've seen 12 people online for the last 4 hours straight. More at other hours. You sure it is nobody?
Nobody? I've seen 12 people online for the last 4 hours straight. More at other hours. You sure it is nobody?
If you expect to actually be sending money, you should try PayPal. The scripts are nothing more than something to make your roleplay have a visual effect.
8 firemen, 2 cops, 1 EMS and the other one is AFK. And it's no one I'd like to play with.Then you should invite your friends! ;)
Interesting how some are telling people to play on RS5 while they're only chatting on the forum most of the time.Skype. Skype as well. A lot.
Interesting how some are telling people to play on RS5 while they're only chatting on the forum most of the time.
Some of us (such as myself) would love to play RS5 all the time. Sadly some of us have other areas to focus on and prevents us from getting online. Trust me I go in RS5 when I get some free time. So... yeah go in RS5 and give it a go.So they have no time for RS5 but plenty of time to talk to us on the forum? Bullshit.
So they have no time for RS5 but plenty of time to talk to us on the forum? Bullshit.We "ran out" of time when RS5 arrived ;).
We "ran out" of time when RS5 arrived ;).Hm, weird :uhm:
So they have no time for RS5 but plenty of time to talk to us on the forum? Bullshit.
work from homeI jelly.
You don't see many players in game? Log in anyway and do your thing! If everyone keeps this mentality, you will soon find Argonath with its former glory.
You don't see many players in game? Log in anyway and do your thing!This. People did it today, and the server went from 12 people to 60+.
This. People did it today, and the server went from 12 people to 60+.and it crashed and went to 28..
and it crashed and went to 28..When it crashes, less people always return.
and it crashed and went to 28..
I don't recall seeing you in-game.Ever heard of a thing called SAMP client, it allows you to see the player count .. and woah you won't believe it.. you use it to launch GTA_SA.exe modified to launch into a multiplayer server. I mean does it matter if you've seen me? and now there are 3 people online.. so yeah.
After the crash, we only lost about 10 players, boo hoo.
When it crashes, less people always return.There is just a feeling of disappointment when a piece of technology crashes, I understand it, as I didn't return either. But I do want to know why it happened, as the moment when we reached some sort of success it just turned into dust again. I thought we were over DDoSing.. I'm so tired of children thinking they're fucking hacking geniuses when they DDoS a server, everyone can use google, it just.. I hope it was the server that fucked up, not another scumbag again.
There is your mistake. You wish to misuse an existing system to get money you think you need to have fun, instead of just roleplaying it all out and having a good time doing the same, exact thing you wanted to do.Money doesn't fall from the sky off the wings of angels, you need to actually go and get it.
They are there to give a monetary incentive for roleplays that are successful, yes, but not just so you can walk up, accept the challenge, and walk away rich. That is not the point as to why they exist.Given the way it's currently implemented - yes, actually it is.
Then they can do it properly. There is no need to abuse anything just to "jumpstart the server". They could easily roleplay out the scenarios like they are supposed to while earning the money.No they couldn't, that's just totally outright incorrect. As I said above, money doesn't just fall from the fucking sky, you have to go and actually earn it, and then you can spend it on roleplay.
Noone will give you cash for RPing, because noone has the cash to give you.
/me hands Acika $20.Oh damn, now he's ~0.006% on the way to buying a house! Only 15 thousand more $20 payments to earn!
Most people do. The sad part is that none of them wish to even try opening their eyes.I don't think you understood his point. Like, at all.
...now there are 3 people online.. so yeah.There are 6 now.
There is just a feeling of disappointment when a piece of technology crashes, I understand it, as I didn't return either. But I do want to know why it happened...
Money doesn't fall from the sky off the wings of angels, you need to actually go and get it.1. You can still easily roleplay it.
This has been true for every single gamemode.
Given the way it's currently implemented - yes, actually it is.
No they couldn't, that's just totally outright incorrect. As I said above, money doesn't just fall from the f**king sky, you have to go and actually earn it, and then you can spend it on roleplay.
This was my exact argument for not resetting RS2 back in summer 2007. I said that at the start of RS3 everyone would roleplay less and just scrounge for money until they had enough to be comfortable to waste it (so a house, business, cars and over a million basically).
And oh shit, hey - look what happened in 2008. Exactly what I f**king said.
The same is happening now. If you want to "roleplay to earn money" (enough money to actually buy anything) then come back in 2015 when people have cash to spend.
Oh damn, now he's ~0.006% on the way to buying a house! Only 15 thousand more $20 payments to earn!
I don't think you understood his point. Like, at all.
It's funny that all the big groups who are supposed to influence RP left when they lost their ammunations and such, just shows how they cared more about money than roleplay, the server is pretty stumped IMO, if you get the big groups back you get a bunch of money hungrys who don't RP, yes I'm talking about Gvardia, Ancelotti, Corleone, you know those big 'official' groups, the fact that they all bailed when they lost assets shows that they should never have had official status in the first place.
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You might want to remove Ancelotti from your list. We are role-playing every time we can.Ok well sorry if Ancelotti has been RPing in RS5, but for the benefit of other peoples opinions I won't remove it from the list, and if you haven't seen me in-game RPing thats because I'm banned until May for arguing with administration, if thats what you mean to imply.
None of us bailed when we lost our assets. Ancelotti actually gained members once RS5 came out. Yet I have seen you in-game, roleplaying.
Ok well sorry if Ancelotti has been RPing in RS5, but for the benefit of other peoples opinions I won't remove it from the list, and if you haven't seen me in-game RPing thats because I'm banned until May for arguing with administration, if thats what you mean to imply.
Aside from SAPD and the Clans, Ancelotti, Sforza, and Svensson are the three factions I've seen pitching in during RS5. They didn't bail.wut 'bout skoto man ?
wut 'bout skoto man ?
4. /me gives Acika $100,000.You have mixed In game cash with imaginary(RP) cash.
You have mixed In game cash with imaginary(RP) cash.So you're saying in-game cash is real money?!?
With your imaginary cash i can only imaginary clean my ass, so you should keep em :lol:
So you're saying in-game cash is real money?!?That's what most of people, sadly, think.
So you're saying in-game cash is real money?!?(http://michiganjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tumblr_lu419rDeQl1r0w390.jpg)
It is now a proven fact that it all comes down to the players to boost the player count of SA:MP Argonath. It is true that players attract players. And that is what happened today. A public meeting hosted by the SAPD boosted the player count upto a reputable amount and it stayed that way even though the meeting was over. During this period I saw nobody complaining about anything related to scripts as they were actually busy enjoying the game with their friends..Alright, let's try to rp...oh wait. Okay, let's try to make some money...oh wait. Let's try to improve the server by giving personal opinions..oh wait.
You don't see many players in game? Log in anyway and do your thing! If everyone keeps this mentality, you will soon find Argonath with its former glory.
do you guys ever stop arguing
So you're saying in-game cash is real money?!?No. I am now sure that you have mixed in game money, rp (imaginary) money and real life money.
So you're saying in-game cash is real money?!?It's not MTA:VC anymore, young padawan. People want to actually use the scripts that have been promised and offered, like, idk, trucking job, stock management, letting your house(s), group vehicles, customising your house(s) and so on. Features that are meant to distinguish RS5 from every other server, features that should be landmarks in SA:MP scripting, features that will bring more players in. Monopoly money isn't going to get it done. Result is that everyone is on fire duty. Result is that it's about as interesting as watching paint dry. You'll get roleplay here and there, fair play, but it's likely going to be related to fireduty in one way another, just 'cos everyone's a fireman anyway. So yeah. FD5.
It's not MTA:VC anymore, young padawan. People want to actually use the scripts that have been promised and offered, like, idk, trucking job, stock management, letting your house(s), group vehicles, customising your house(s) and so on. Features that are meant to distinguish RS5 from every other server, features that should be landmarks in SA:MP scripting, features that will bring more players in.So you're saying that SA:MP RS5 should be remembered for the limited amount of scripted abilities it can offer instead of the unlimited amount of opportunities it brings about with the scripts enhancing them? That makes no sense.
If you gave me "/me gives Teddy 5000 argonath dollars" after I sent you drugs I'd kill you. Just sayin.But then I'd say, "/me turns into a Teddy bear eating ghost", and nom you up!
If you gave me "/me gives Teddy 5000 argonath dollars" after I sent you drugs I'd kill you. Just sayin.umad ? /groupjoin gvardia cuz it's not locked and then /selltomarket! FTW!!
So you're saying that SA:MP RS5 should be remembered for the limited amount of scripted abilities it can offer instead of the unlimited amount of opportunities it brings about with the scripts enhancing them? That makes no sense.Yes, I am saying that, that's the whole damn point of a gamemode, the scripts. No one (should) judges gamemode by how it's used, that's how you judge the community, you judge a gamemode by what it offers in terms of scripts.
Oh, and I still think Argonath would be better off focusing on MTA:SA instead of SA:MP :|
If you gave me "/me gives Teddy 5000 argonath dollars" after I sent you drugs I'd kill you. Just sayin.But you can RP giving him the drugs,he can RP using them...the only difference is the screen effect. Expect if you get high IRL atm... :uhm:
But you can RP giving him the drugs,he can RP using them...the only difference is the screen effect. Expect if you get high IRL atm... :uhm:This says it all.